Comments by "Lorri Lewis" (@lorrilewis2178) on "PsycHacks"
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@johncrow5552 I've never thought in terms of "men spending money on me."
My general rule is that on a first date, the person who issues the invitation pays the bill. It's better if it's not an expensive date. A coffee shop date followed by a pleasant walk in a public area is no pressure on either.
After that, if you're both still interested, now you're in the "getting to know each other" stage, which should be a fairly long stage. At that stage, you should alternate who pays and each should be extending invitations to the other. There are always inexpensive or free things to do, like going to museums.
As this goes further along and if there is real interest and chemistry, THIS would be the time to pull out all the stops with an occasional nice dinner out, but again, alternate it. If one can't afford that, they can cook a dinner or pack a picnic which is just as romantic.
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Studies are one thing, but you don't even talk about statistics that aren't faked. You never talk about the "assortative mating" pattern of today (men and women of similar educational and career status marry each other), which totally contradicts your insistence that women are eaten up with hypergamy. You don't talk about how different the divorce rate is between socioeconomic groups. College educated couples have a divorce rate in the twenty-something percent range.
You don't talk about the effect of an age gap on divorce rates - the less of an age gap, the lower the divorce rate. There is also research on the valid reasons women give for deciding to divorce - no one will hear it here, though the info would help the men in your audience gain some perspective.
You don't talk about the fact that a lot of dating apps are 80% men and 20% women, which skews everything in the women's favor. Your male audience needs to go outside and touch grass and meet real women in the wild where the percentages are even.
Your explanations of how women think are merely Red Pill memes. There are forums on Reddit and elsewhere for men who've left the Red Pill behind and found their relationships with women greatly improved because they realized most women weren't actually like the memes. They were tired of being angry and that was the impetus they needed to free themselves from Red Pill angst.
I know this will fall on deaf ears. I've had absolutely HORRENDOUS stuff happen in my life at the hands of men. I walked away. Same story for many many many women. When we are traumatized by men, we tend to just quietly build a life without them.
Men who have trouble with women seem unable to do the same. They create endless channels and podcasts about "evil" women and even worse, some incels go on rampages and murder women they don't know. Or they worship Andrew Tate, the guy who admitted to getting dozens of women to fall in love with him and once he was certain they were hooked on him, persuading them to do porn . . . for him . . . then he'd pocket most of the money the women made. He's vile and he's a Red Pill icon and hero to so many men.
Women are shouldering life's challenges and getting more degrees than men are, yet Red Pill guys are still whining that women have it easy. Way too many men are a mess these days.
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@31minutesago Had a guy in a class who was obsessed with me, though I didn't know at the time. He told me later he managed to get his seat changed so he was sitting right in front of me. He was always turning around to talk, but otherwise he wasn't on my radar.
One day, he realized we had a female friend in common and started talking about that. The girl in question and I both had a secret crush on a guy in our music theory class, and that guy was standing in the courtyard right at that moment. I casually pointed him out and said my friend had a crush on the guy, but didn't say I did too.
He immediately said, "Oh, she can do better than him!" I didn't understand why he was dismissive of the guy, but I ignored it.
That casual exchange prompted him to hatch a plot. A couple of weeks later he said he knew a handsome guy he was sure my friend and me would like a lot more than the guy we had a crush on.
He went on and on about how great this mysterious handsome guy was. Handsome guy had a boat and with his agreement, he invited my friend and me out on the boat. His real motive was to spend time with me, but he didn't admit that until much later.
My girlfriend ended up canceling and he knew I wouldn't go on a boat alone with two men, so he had to find another girl. He told me later, he chose the most promiscuous show off he knew, because he wanted handsome guy to go after her over me because she represented easy sex.
His plan worked. She was as provocative as he hoped for. It became clear on the boat that handsome guy was going for easy sex.
On the drive home we were in the back seat. My hair was in a million knots from the ocean winds. I started combing it out and he said, "Oh, let me do it!" He spent an hour combing out the knots. He told me later he was in Heaven, but I had no idea.
After that day, he kept up a relentless rush of getting me to participate in more "non-date" outings. They had to be "non-dates" because I never expressed interest in him and he acted like his only goal was setting me up with someone else. His secret goal was to wear me down with his continual presence.
Then he began portraying himself as the final arbiter of every subject - to elevate himself and make me question my own judgement. He was trying to create a mental dependency on him.
Without ever discussing it, he managed to incrementally slide into a situation where we were dating as a couple - though I'd never consciously liked him that way. I eventually got free, but it was like freeing myself from a determined octopus with eight arms.
I was unaware of his plotting and planning, but he later confessed it all to me. It never occurred to him that if he had to plot and be so secretive about his real intentions, the relationship was imaginary on his side.
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