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Comments by "Lorri Lewis" (@lorrilewis2178) on "MEN and WOMEN: How did we END UP here?, or: the fate of the Green Destiny" video.
You don't speak for all women, thank goodness. Since when is it "rebellion" to make one's own decisions as a fully grown human being?
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You have to use a movie as an example because real life doesn't support your point. How you can believe the feminine symbolizes "chaos" when men are overwhelmingly behind ALL forms of unnecessary violence (wars of conquest, murder, rape, domestic violence) on this planet is rich. Millions of young women apparently have the discipline to study and graduate from college in greater numbers than men and hold down demanding careers, while more men are wasting away doing absolutely nothing. You have admitted this before. So to imply that women don't have the discipline to wield power is literally crazy. Most women work full-time AND have the risks of pregnancy and childbirth AND take on the lion's share of child raising, yet here you are, a single man pontificating about women not having discipline. We are just trying to live our lives and there's nothing easy about it.
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You are poorly informed about feminism. Feminism DID talk about relieving men of being sole providers. Still does. They envisioned a more fluid situation that would benefit both sexes more than rigid roles ever could.
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@whenpigsfly8178 How were families more stable? Do you mean there were fewer divorces? There were fewer divorces because most housewives had no money to leave. If they could arrange to leave, they had to prove in court that their husband was either abusive or having an affair. They had to drag the family through court with no guarantee a judge would side with them even in cases of abuse. When no-fault divorce became the norm, women's suicide rates went down and domestic violence numbers went down. Divorce numbers went up because of all the women who were freed from having to take their husband to court. And how did women trade off reproduction? They've been working and having children. The recent inflation and housing price rises have nothing to do with women and everything to do with government policies. Women went through the 1980s, 1990s, and 2000s while both working and having children with affordable houses.
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@kellygreenii Of course biology matters, but it's a big mistake to think it overrides everything. Being absolutist about gender roles is a recipe for misery. Just look at the original comment about men being "stuck" being a provider. Today, only 55% of married men are sole or main providers. 45% of married men are either in marriages where the wife earns a similar salary or is the sole or main provider.
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@kellygreenii Most women aren't acting like jerks. In a competition between men and women of who is most often acting like a jerk . . . men win.
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@kellygreenii The individual woman who tried to hit you is a jerk. But there are far more men hitting women than vice versa. And you know it.
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@Terrapin47-s8y My comment was originally aimed toward the guy who complained that women don't subject themselves to dangerous jobs. I said that we'll do that as soon as men subject themselves to the dangers of pregnancy and childbirth. BTW, the recent abortion bans in several states have made pregnancy even more dangerous. When a woman has a fetus die inside her or when her water breaks in the early stages, without a complete miscarriage she can develop sepsis and die. Five women (and their husbands) who had planned pregnancies, are suing the State of Texas because the new abortion bans prevented their doctors from performing a routine medical abortion that used to be standard care in cases of incomplete miscarriages. The doctors were so afraid of going to prison if the state decided they intervened too soon, that they allowed these women to develop sepsis and almost die. One of the women now has a totally damaged fallopian tube due to the infection that may prevent her from ever having children. There are lawsuits in other states for the same reason. Things can go wrong in a pregnancy really really fast.
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@VivatVeritas1 Women don't divorce for "rewards". No matter how much money there is, divorce means having LESS money. The fact that so many women want to leave their husbands is a testament to what too many men are like to live with. Men need to take responsibility for that. Women don't go into marriage thinking they will get divorced. Women don't leave wonderful husbands.
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@kellygreenii I'm making a point about group dynamics also. You are trying to make me believe that women are more likely than men to shift blame, and I'm telling you that's baloney.
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@AtheismF7W Women had no choice but to bear multiple children (if they didn't die in childbirth) throughout the majority of human history. That meant another baby about every two or three years unless there was a fertility issue. Then they had to breastfeed them every two to four hours, take care of the other children, and run a household. How much of a world could men build if women were not holding down the fort at home and bringing new souls into the world? I get so tired of answers like yours that imply women were doing NOTHING. Now women have some control over fertility, and you still want to side step that they are showing more discipline than men these days. As for the ability to wield power, you act like there have been no female rulers in history or leaders in our world today. Not to mention women running companies. These all exist.
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@psychacks As I said, it doesn't correspond to real life in this case. I am my own person and have no need for an "authority" over my head in the form of the masculine. You remind me of an old boyfriend I had who owned a business. I was never more glad I broke up with him than when he told me this gem ... QUOTE: "You used to give me great business advice and I would secretly take your advice. I never told you because you were just a girl." He actually thought that was a compliment. It wasn't.
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@watamutha Just as soon as men start bearing all the physical discomfort and risks of pregnancy and childbirth, which includes the risk of death, we can talk about women being ice fishermen. Lots more women are paying spousal and/or child support these days.
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@Terrapin47-s8y For most of history, women could not choose. It has been said by historians, that in the ancient world, the most dangerous time in a woman's life was giving birth - the death rate was high. In the Middle Ages, as soon as a woman realized she was pregnant, she would write her will. Within my own family, we know of ancestors dying in childbirth. Even now, the US has an unacceptable death rate for childbirth in the modern age, and that isn't even counting the ones who come close. My mother almost died having me. You are making the mistake of thinking that because births happen every day, that it's "not that bad" and not dangerous. The list of possible complications in pregnancy and childbirth fills medical books.
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@yossarian67 It's not a "disgust threshold". Women pick up on when a relationship isn't working. The TYPICAL pattern is that the woman tries to talk to the man for years about what is wrong. The man might promise to take action, but doesn't take it seriously. After a number of years, the woman see nothing will change and she leaves. The man claims he was blindsided. Just ask a couples therapist if this is true. That lesbian couples have a higher divorce rate is an indication that women figure out when things aren't working. That's a strength; not a weakness.
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@ninjanickysveganwellness "Rebellious" is a word we use for children.
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@HelloWorld-cq1sq Before attending to anything else you say, SHOW me stats that show women perpetuate more domestic violence than men. I realize this task will take you forever because it does not exist.
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@mikeoms What are you trying to say?
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@VivatVeritas1 Divorce is a huge decision. Women rarely leave a good husband. In conversations with divorced women, not once has a woman said her husband "failed to make her happy". I hear specific reasons for the divorce that are completely reasonable. The husband failed at being a partner in one or more ways - often by not pulling his weight. After years of trying to talk to the husband about it, the women see that nothing will change and they exit. The men don't take them seriously until it's too late. That's the pattern. Studies have shown that married women gain seven additional hours of housework per week just by having a man in the house. That is ridiculous since most women work.
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@garyfrancis6193 What didn't work?
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@moxygenpathogen7678 Nah.
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@moxygenpathogen7678 What are you even talking about?
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@jonbutton3259 There are 125 comments under the original comment. I have no idea what comment of mine you are replying to on this old video.
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