Comments by "Mark Armage" (@markarmage3776) on "Batman v Superman - Lex Luthor's speech" video.
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@thebat729 Do you actually watch the movie, pal.
The entire movie portrays Lex Luthor motive, which are very much a correct motive. everything inside this speech leads the final sentence.
Man can have knowledge with no power, and that's paradoxical.
He's frustrated with the people's false perception of what is true greatness, what is true power. How people worship Superman for having these god-like power, how people ignore Lex Luthor, who is the peak of human existence intellectually.
He believes Superman is a fraud.
The story of the ancient Greeks just leads to how he feels about the world, full of people blinded, just like the Greeks, who somehow believe in a version of good and bad that totally put them in hardships.
The idea of kings and queens, of Gods who are able to kill people at will.
Look pal, the Greeks believed something incredibly stupid, and there's no basis for their beliefs.
Not any known basis that man can recreate, are you really going to say that the man whom children got executed just because the "priest" said so were happy because the "priest" words were the words of the Gods?
You truly believe that the level of suffering among the people in ancient Greece were at the same percentage as it is now? That even if the situation is incredibly worse, the same percentage of them still felt content back then as the same percentage that felt content now?
Please.
To study history, you need to first study human psychology.
You suck at that for sure.
Pain and suffering existed as long as humans existed. And just because a few texts by a few people claim something that doesn't make it any different.
For your information, overwhelming majority of ancient Greece people don't know how to read or write, and their words were not recorded.
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@thebat729 Lex is right, pal. He's right about Superman.
The guy is too dangerous, and he doesn't act on the interest of humanity, the Dark Knight future vision proves it in a way.
Lex doesn't believe that Superman will rule the planet, Lex believes that Superman can do that, and that danger is just too much.
Watch the movie again, pal. None of what you said make any sense, really.
Gods in Greek Mythology did a lot more than gave men tools, they also sort of seduced teenage girls, treat people's life as garbage, require human sacrifice, etc.
Keep it real , homie.
No, human psychology isn't molded by society, some maybe , but some remains universal throughout all cultures, including the Greeks.
Pretty sure the feeling of unfairness existed back then because countless conquests, uprisings, revenge were enacted.
The Greeks didn't invent democracy and philosophy, pal. A few excellent individuals among the entire group of people invented those things, and it's not really an effective type of democracy at all. Greek is not the earliest civilization, they might have the earliest recording of philosophical principle, but other civilizations discovered the same thing.
But that's besides the point. Overwhelming majority of people in ancient Greeks didn't know how to write or read, they were either farmers or slaves.
So study history again, pal. Not understanding the population structures and the overwhelming illiteracy probably makes you not that good of a historian.
Zeus wanted to kept humanity in the dark, to kept them worshipping the Gods.
And that, by definition, is "unfair".
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@thebat729 Pal, you make the simplest mistake one can make.
You assume that just because a few guys in that ancient society invented some great things, it must mean that the rest of that society was also just as great. That's insane.
There's no such thing as "the Greek". The Greeks are composed of countless of individuals in different classes, and pretty sure a lot of them, overwhelming majority of them lived a extreme hardship, and they has a higher probability of feeling sadness and unhappiness than to feel content.
They live in fear of dying in the winters and their children can easily die at birth due to poor caring.
To assume that there was the same percentage of suffering back at ancient Greece and now in the modern world is insane, it violates certain principle of mathematics.
Are you really suggesting that somehow people in Greece are more welcome and accepting of premature death than people now?
Please.
You can't study history that way, pal. Simply because most of what you're saying are assumptions, to take the words of a few that lasted through texts, trying to use that and deduct the feelings of the entire population.
That's stupidity at it's finest. It's impossible to do that now, and it's impossible to do it then.
Keep it real, darling.
Go study real science, study real history.
If a slave in ancient Egypt can write "Save me, God" into the stones when he's in chain, certain feelings of man now and then are not so different, at least those core feelings of fairness and justice aren't that different.
So if they feel those ways, have those feelings, how can they be blind to the undeniable logic, if not intellectual inferiority.
Don't assume human intellect is the same back then, it's just not. They might believe different things, mostly because they're intellectual inferior.
Study real science.
Certain progress and achievement made doesn't excuse the idiocy of the whole.
Yeah, we're a lot smarter now, which by defaults means they were dumber then. There's nothing wrong with it but they were not as smart.
Just study some math, pal.
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@thebat729
1. No I do understand Superman as a character, realistically your take on Superman is insane.
If he doesn't have a dark side, he's not human, and if he's human, he has a dark side and is too dangerous.
So either way you lost, humans are deeply flawed creatures, doesn't matter what your pamphlet says, reality said otherwise.
2. Study your mythology again. Countless times the Gods asked people to kill other people, to pitch one against another, to favor one side against another. It's full of atrocious behavior.
3. Their sacred law make no sense logically and benefits nobody except the extreme minority. Like the slaveowners, like I said, intellectual inferiority.
4. Those words are in Greece because you talk about it in the English language, countless other version of the same thing was invented elsewhere in other geographical locations, with different languages.
The idea of fairness among men is not new at all, keep it real, darling.
5. No, their beliefs aren't written by farmers, farmers don't know how to read or write. Study real history, pal.
Certain stories are folktales, but those tales are tales spreaded and engulfed through intellectual inferiority.
Like I said, if the overwhelming majority of their society is insane unintellectual, their belief possesses the same quality.
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@thebat729 No, that's real.
The Greeks or any ancient society lacks the understanding of countless things. Mistaken mercury for magic, mistaken lightning for God's ability.
It's quite entertaining to see you value their beliefs so high despite knowing that they weren't that intellectually advanced.
Their understanding of the human world is deeply flawed. Some made massive contributions to academics. It's not really that significant because it's just very basic observation.
Like you can replicate Plato or Aristotle's work without having ever heard of them.
Common logical thinking existed through various cultures, not just the Greeks or the Romans. The Chinese had a pretty rich understanding of it as well.
So you know, your assumption of the validity of their beliefs is just false.
There's nothing more to it. There are proof they feel the same thing, that they feel the same about slavery, suffering, pain and death.
So what's the other reasonable explanation for their mistaken belief except stupidity.
Belief stems from reasoning, unless you're saying that the entire ancient Greek society took a look at those principles, take a deep analysis into it, taking in consideration variables of justice, fairness, all those things, and then come out with that belief, you might want to take another guess.
Most of them can't read, they can't write. Therefore their beliefs ain't that worthwhile, at least probability wise it isn't.
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@thebat729 And I think you misunderstood Luthor's point.
Fire is a very common thing, it enriches human life greatly, yet Prometheus is punished for giving it to mankind. Showing that the ones given the absolute power can behaved in an unfair way and harm everybody else.
That doesn't seem fair. It relates to the paradox of the current government system that is restraining Lex Luthor, where he is vilified by the ones in charge because the ones in charge may not understand his motivation.
You can spin it however you want, it all boils down to the same thing, it's false.
Law of nature is broken all the time, that's what technology does, changing atomic structure, turning lead into gold, splitting electrons, defying the definition of God.
So you know, those beliefs are false, they're totally illogical, there's no Zeus, there's no Jehovah, whatever story you tell yourself, they're lies and incoherent with reality.
That's what Lex Luthor is talking about.
You made up that interpretation of Gods representing nature's law by yourself.
People back then who believed in the story just think of them as Gods, which of course it's totally false.
You spin it that way but Luthor sees it for what it is. Their stories and how they believe those stories showcases their intellectual inferiority. Just like how Luthor sees the world, full of people not understanding him.
I'm very sorry that the movie scene hurt your feelings regarding Greek Mythology or whatever, but like every other mythology in the world, they're all , simply put, proven to be false, beyond any doubt.
So keep it real, homie.
You see the stories by making up interpretation, cool.
Luthor sees the story for what it is, a demonstration of illogical human behavior.
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@thebat729 Well, the meltdown in Chernobyl is the consequences of risky plant construction.
But if we don't have that, we wouldn't have handled such technologies with greater care, since the much, much more secured factories in Japan.
Accidents happen, darling.
And yes, the Bombing of Hiroshima demonstrated the risk of a known technology, which is nuclear fission, leading to the regulation of Nuclear weapons all over the world. Some countries have it but most countries do not.
Like I said, accidents happen.
There are many factors that contributed to such accidents, but they're all part of a discovering process that fuels human existence today.
Like I said, show some respect.
We've broken plenty of natural laws before those events and received nothing but progress, so it sort of make your nonsensical theory of "nature" punish us totally false.
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