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神州 Shenzhou
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Comments by "神州 Shenzhou" (@Shenzhou.) on "China’s sweeping plan to ban single-use plastics" video.
Western countries used to send their plastic trash to China for sorting and processing, but China did something about it and banned imports of Western trash. Video: Why China Doesn't Want Your Trash Anymore youtu.be/-gNZtI7hbvI
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@westerntaiwan6893 I thought NASA has revealed that the ozone layer hole is gradually closing up, and 2019 recorded the smallest ozone layer hole size. Source: NASA: 2019 Ozone Hole is the Smallest on Record Since Its Discovery nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2019/2019-ozone-hole-is-the-smallest-on-record-since-its-discovery
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@westerntaiwan6893 In 2012? Well, the ozone layer hole is already closing as recorded by NASA in 2019, so what seems to be the problem then?
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@westerntaiwan6893 According to your source: China said last year it had already eliminated as much as 280,000 tonnes of annual ODS production capacity and was speeding up efforts to phase out other ozone-damaging chemicals. It signed the Montreal Protocol in 1991. China launched a special inspection campaign into 3,000 foam manufacturers across the country last year and promised to punish any breaches of the ban on ozone-depleting chemicals. It said in March that it had shut down two manufacturing spots that produced CFC-11. The Ministry of Ecology and Environment said late on Thursday it had paid close attention to the unexpected rise in global CFC-11 levels reported last year. It said its investigation into polyurethane foam makers had so far revealed no large-scale illegal use, but said enterprises involved in illegal activities had got better at covering up their operations. So it appears that the Chinese government is doing all it can to tackle the problem. And since NASA has reported the smallest ozone layer hole size on record in 2019, then what seems to be the problem?
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Paper made from Bamboo trees might be a more environmental friendly alternative. Bamboo is a the largest of the grass family and grows very quickly (in fact, some species are considered invasive) so they make an ideal possible replacement to single-use plastics.
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@PyroMax The government is clearly clamping down on CFC production within the country, yet you're claiming that the CCP is telling lies? Those that produce CFC are illegal in China and at least the government is doing something about it. Besides, the ozone layer hole has shrunk overall, so why make mountain out of a molehill?
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@PyroMax How to pinpoint where exactly the CFC is emitting from in China, given the larger number of factories in China? And the ozone layer hole will eventually close up according to NASA, so what's your problem then?
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Those countries choose to purchase plastic bags from China, then why blame China for doing business with other countries? Other countries can always ban the purchase of plastic bags from China.
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Plastic bags are used for about a day, but they take over 1000 years to decompose, so those plastic bags will probably outlast even you and me.
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@PyroMax Measure CFC levels and find the source of it? Don't you know just how big the Earth's atmosphere is? That the atmospheric winds can always changing and you can't just pin point where a source of CFC is being emitted from? You make it sound so easy to monitor which company in China is illegally producing CFCs, when the reality is more difficult than that. And like I said, the ozone layer hole is gradually closing up, according to data from NASA, so what seems to be the problem then?
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@PyroMax Because Hawaii is a group of islands in the Pacific Ocean, which is not the same as whole of mainland China. There are way more factories in China as compared to factories in Hawaii, so what makes you think monitoring CFC levels in mainland China is as easy as monitoring CFC in Hawaii? And the ozone layer hole will eventually close up according to NASA data, so what seems to be the problem then?
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One restaurant in Beijing is making use of wheat straws obtained from the deep countryside in central China, to replace plastic straws. Video: Wheat straws: China's biodegradable alternative to plastic youtu.be/8tyK3FZviso They cost the same as plastic straws, are just as effective and completely biodegradable. And customers in the restaurant are supporting the move too.
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@zilun But for those who refuse to bring their own, then bamboo paper might prove to be a suitable alternative. Just like the use of wheat straws to replace plastic straws in that restaurant in Beijing.
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@Ocelot Those two cities? How many factories are there in those two cities alone? You really make it sound as though it's easy to pick out the illegal CFC emitters like it's a piece of cake. And NASA has revealed that the ozone layer hole is closing up, so what seems to be the problem then?
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One restaurant in Beijing is making use of wheat straws obtained from the countryside in central China, to replace plastic drinking straws. Video: Wheat straws: China's biodegradable alternative to plastic youtu.be/8tyK3FZviso They cost the same as plastic straws, are just as effective and completely biodegradable. And customers are supporting the move too.
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