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Comments by "神州 Shenzhou" (@Shenzhou.) on "Wet markets in Wuhan struggle to survive despite lifting of China’s lockdown to fight Covid-19" video.

It looks like a Seafood Market in Wuhan, selling the harvest of the ocean, like shrimp, crawfish, eels, shellfish. Even Japanese and Korean Markets sell live seafood.
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According Scientific American, no coronavirus has ever been found in aquatic animals, so why can't Wuhan seafood market continue to sell live seafood? Japan and South Korea also have seafood market.
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Why should the government "close all wet markets"? Wet markets provide fresh food and produce at affordable prices to people in China and many other countries in Asia, Africa and South America also have wet markets of their own. So why should China close our wet markets?
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The bat soup coronavirus origins myth have long been debunked by experts. Source: Is bat soup a delicacy in China? We debunk a rumour on the origin of the coronavirus observers.france24.com/en/20200203-china-coronavirus-bat-soup-debunk-videos-viral-palau-indonesia
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Wet Markets provide fresh food and produce at affordable prices to people in China. Even other countries in Asia, Africa and South America also have wet markets. So why should China close our wet markets?
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@kus4kus4 How to define "uncommon animal"? The French eat snails and horsemeat, British eat rabbit stew and Australians eat kangaroo meat, so do you mean by uncommon food?
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There are so many other virus like Bird Flu, Swine Flu, H1N1, MERS, and other virus outbreaks that still occur regardless of wet markets, so does China need to close our wet markets? Many other countries in Asia, Africa and South America also have wet markets of their own.
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@pingguerrero2007 There's a possibility that coronavirus may not have originated in China, only detected in China. An Italian Doctor suggested that Covid-19 was present in Italy since November 2019. "Strange pneumonia" cases were already reported in Nov 2019, back in Lombardy, the northern part of Italy. This was months before China had an outbreak with the virus starting on Dec. China might just be where the first case of Coronavirus was detected, but it is not the main place wherein the virus originated. This is what a leading doctor in Italy confessed in a report saying that there's a possibility that COVID-19 did not originate in Wuhan, China but somewhere else-- or maybe in Italy itself. Source: First 'Strange Pneumonia' Case Reported in November 2019 in Italy techtimes.com/articles/248263/20200323/coronavirus-possibly-come-china-italy-first-detected-strange-pneumonia-months-wuhan-outbreak.htm As mentioned by one of the country's leading doctors named Giuseppe Remuzzi, the director of the Mario Negri Institute for Pharmacological Research in Milan, he said that there were already few cases in Italy of this unknown virus that has been severe for older people in Nov. up to Dec.
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It's a Seafood Market in Wuhan, selling live seafood like shrimps, crawfish, eels, shellfish, etc. Even Japanese and Korean Markets sell live seafood too.
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@UltraGamer9999999999 "神州 Shenzhou Japanese wet markets are super clean, cannot compare to China lool." Video: Hakodate Seafood Market - Japan youtu.be/SskPtUAcUKQ How's it any different from China's? And I don't see any terrestrial animals being sold in that video.
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@kus4kus4 Coronavirus did not originate in Wuhan seafood market, Chinese scientists say analysis of genomic data from 93 samples of the novel coronavirus suggests it was imported from elsewhere. Source: Coronavirus did not originate in Wuhan seafood market scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3051981/coronavirus-did-not-originate-wuhan-seafood-market-chinese
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Every country have their own eating habits. The French eat snails and horsemeat, British eat rabbit stew, and Australian eat kangaroo meat and crocodile meat, so why should China change our eating habits?
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Wet Markets provide fresh food and produce at affordable prices to people in China and many other countries in Asia, Africa and South America also have wet markets too. So why should China close our wet markets?
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The bat soup coronavirus origins myth have long been debunked by experts. Source: Is bat soup a delicacy in China? We debunk a rumour on the origin of the coronavirus observers.france24.com/en/20200203-china-coronavirus-bat-soup-debunk-videos-viral-palau-indonesia
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According to Scientific American, no one has ever reported finding a coronavirus infecting aquatic animals so whats wrong with selling live seafood, crayfish, lobsters, etc?
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@kus4kus4 I can apply the same logic to you, has anyone died from eating Pangolin, Raccoon, Bats, Dogs and Cats? And the bat soup coronavirus origins myth have long been debunked by experts. Source: No, Coronavirus Was Not Caused by 'Bat Soup'–But Here's What Researchers Think May Be to Blame health.com/condition/infectious-diseases/coronavirus-bat-soup
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@StephenMortimer China has 5000 years of history and is among the world's oldest "continuous" civilization still alive today, whereas other ancient civilizations like Mesopotamia, Rome and Egypt have since succumbed to history. China has witnessed the birth and death of various other nations, the rise and fall of numerous other empires, yet China has survived the violent passage of time to modern times relatively intact, whereas even Rome eventually crumbled. Ancient Chinese nobility wore luxurious silk clothing since 4th millennium BCE, while the rest of the world wore mostly loincloths and "bedsheets" called togas. Silk was much prized by the rest of the world, so much that a lucrative trade route had been set up and named in honor of the precious material. Along the Silk Road, flowed Chinese luxury goods like silk, tea, paper, gunpowder, porcelain (precious china) which were in great demand throughout the ancient world. Take Han Chinese traditional clothing Hanfu (汉服) for example and it has 5,000 years of history and even the Japanese Kimono and Korean Hanbok clothing have their origins in Chinese Hanfu. Video: Beautiful Traditional Costume: Han Chinese Clothing (Hanfu) youtu.be/T6CucJxiWec?t=5
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@aeoliaschenberg5880 There's a possibility that coronavirus may not have originated in China, only detected in China. An Italian Doctor suggested that Covid-19 was present in Italy since November 2019. "Strange pneumonia" cases were already reported in Nov 2019, back in Lombardy, the northern part of Italy. This was months before China had an outbreak with the virus starting on Dec. China might just be where the first case of Coronavirus was detected, but it is not the main place wherein the virus originated. This is what a leading doctor in Italy confessed in a report saying that there's a possibility that COVID-19 did not originate in Wuhan, China but somewhere else-- or maybe in Italy itself. Source: First 'Strange Pneumonia' Case Reported in November 2019 in Italy techtimes.com/articles/248263/20200323/coronavirus-possibly-come-china-italy-first-detected-strange-pneumonia-months-wuhan-outbreak.htm As mentioned by one of the country's leading doctors named Giuseppe Remuzzi, the director of the Mario Negri Institute for Pharmacological Research in Milan, he said that there were already few cases in Italy of this unknown virus that has been severe for older people in Nov. up to Dec.
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@UltraGamer9999999999 I just shown you that Japanese seafood market deal with live Alaskan King Crab, live Octopus, live Squid, so what's the difference? Did you know that according to Scientific American, no coronavirus has ever been found in aquatic animals so whats wrong with descaling fish and gutting the fish? Would you rather you descale and gut the fish yourself? Video: According to Scientific American, no one has ever reported finding coronavirus in aquatic animals youtu.be/8a8avCFbON4?t=343
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@UltraGamer9999999999 What's wrong with citing Nathan Rich quoting Scientific American that no one has ever reported coronavirus infections in *aquatic animals*? The article you cite shows that fish have bacteria (duh!) so you don't want to eat fish then? Bacteria is found on land animals, uncooked meat, frozen meat, etc, so yo don't want to eat any meat at all? Look at Japanese eating raw fish (sashimi) and live octopus tentacles and its uncooked food that contains bacteria isn't it? The Japanese even eat poisonous puffer fish (fugu) yet you think Chinese seafood is bad?
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@UltraGamer9999999999 There's a possibility that coronavirus may not have originated in China, only detected in China. An Italian Doctor suggested that Covid-19 was present in Italy since November 2019. "Strange pneumonia" cases were already reported in Nov 2019, back in Lombardy, the northern part of Italy. This was months before China had an outbreak with the virus starting on Dec. China might just be where the first case of Coronavirus was detected, but it is not the main place wherein the virus originated. This is what a leading doctor in Italy confessed in a report saying that there's a possibility that COVID-19 did not originate in Wuhan, China but somewhere else-- or maybe in Italy itself. Source: First 'Strange Pneumonia' Case Reported in November 2019 in Italy techtimes.com/articles/248263/20200323/coronavirus-possibly-come-china-italy-first-detected-strange-pneumonia-months-wuhan-outbreak.htm As mentioned by one of the country's leading doctors named Giuseppe Remuzzi, the director of the Mario Negri Institute for Pharmacological Research in Milan, he said that there were already few cases in Italy of this unknown virus that has been severe for older people in Nov. up to Dec.
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@UltraGamer9999999999 Please explain how to degut a fish without spraying blood everywhere, you tell me? Bacteria are everywhere on Earth, even your raw uncooked meat has bacteria and so does frozen food. Even Japanese eat raw uncooked fish, live octopus tentacles and they even eat raw egg on beef rice (gyudon) yet you still think Chinese cooking fish is unhygienic? Nathan Rich merely quoted Scientific American, here's the actual quote. No one has ever reported finding a coronavirus infecting aquatic animals scientificamerican.com/article/snakes-could-be-the-original-source-of-the-new-coronavirus-outbreak-in-china/
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The bat soup coronavirus origins myth have long been debunked by experts. Source: Bat soup in China? This video of a bat in broth was filmed in the Pacific. observers.france24.com/en/20200204-china-debunked-coronavirus-wuhan-bat-broth-pacific-bat-soup Videos showing Asian people eating bat soup are circulating widely on social networks, with captions suggesting that eating bats is a possible source of the Chinese coronavirus outbreak. Most of the videos were filmed thousands of kilometers from China, and have no documented link to the outbreak of the virus.
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French eat snails and horsemeat, British eat rabbit stew and Australian eat kangaroo meat, so what's the big deal?
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@Anu아누 You Koreans also eat dog meat where its known as "Gaegogi" (개고기, "dog meat") so what's the problem? Source: Dog meat consumption in South Korea wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_meat_consumption_in_South_Korea
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@christopherkucinski2383 Japanese eat raw uncooked fish that contains bacteria and they eat live uncooked octopus tentacles in comparison to Chinese cooked food. You're just anti-China that's all.
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@christopherkucinski2383 Why do you want Chinese people to overthrow our government? That would plunge China into chaos and civil strife, making our country vulnerable to invasion like when Japan invaded China during Sino-Japanese War. You're just anti-China that's all and you care absolutely nothing for China's interests nor do you wish to see China succeed.
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@aeoliaschenberg5880 Coronavirus did not originate in Wuhan seafood market, Chinese scientists say analysis of genomic data from 93 samples of the novel coronavirus suggests it was imported from elsewhere. Source: Coronavirus did not originate in Wuhan seafood market scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3051981/coronavirus-did-not-originate-wuhan-seafood-market-chinese
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@ikapuchino "神州 Shenzhou what about SARS-CoV-Guangdong?" What is that?
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@aeoliaschenberg5880 A geneticist from Cambridge University, Dr Peter Forster and his team have identified 3 Covid-19 strains (A, B, C) Type-A is believed to be strain that leaped from bats to humans (animal-to-human) and Type-B is mutated from Type-A and found predominantly in China, while Type-C is mutated from Type-B and found outside China in places like Singapore. Video: No proof that Covid-19 originated in Wuhan: Peter Forster youtu.be/AQQf2yoymu0 The interesting thing is that the Type-A (animal-to-human) is found predominantly outside East Asia, in USA and Europe.
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@Cosmo1093 Dr Peter Forster from, a geneticist Cambridge University has identified 3 Covid-19 strains (A, B, C) Type-A is believed to have jumped from bats to humans (animal-to-human transmission) and Type-B is mutated from Type-A and found predominantly in China while Type-C is mutated from Type-B and found predominantly outside China, in places like Singapore. Video: No proof that Covid-19 originated in Wuhan: Peter Forster youtu.be/AQQf2yoymu0 The interesting thing is that the Europe and America suffer predominantly from Type-A virus (animal-to-human transmission) and Type-A is predominantly found outside East Asia, that is, in Europeans and Americans.
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@Cosmo1093 Did I ever said that Europe/Italy is the origin? Then how could I have contradicted myself? Whereas you clearly said the virus spread from China -> Italy -> New York, and now you quoted a source saying China spread to Americans? And according to your 2nd source, nothing is confirmed yet more questions are raised for example, The Cambridge study also raised some new questions. The first strain isolated and reported by Chinese scientists was actually younger than the original type that caused the outbreak. Why the US had more strains genetically closer to a bat virus than Wuhan has prompted heated debates in the research community.
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Joanne Lowrey The bat soup coronavirus origins myth have debunked and Wuhan Seafood Market has been debunked of selling snakes, rats, bats, dogs and cats. Source: Are there really dogs, snakes, rats and bats for sale at the Wuhan market where coronavirus originated? observers.france24.com/en/20200204-china-debunked-coronavirus-dogs-snakes-rats-bats-wuhan-market-indonesia In short, these videos weren’t filmed in Wuhan or, indeed, anywhere else in China. Instead, they were filmed 3,400 kilometres away in Indonesia.
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Wet Markets provide fresh food and produce at affordable prices to people in China, and many other countries in Asia, Africa, South America have wet markets too, so why should China close our wet markets?
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Dark of the knight Which part of our vast country of China did you visit? Which wet market you went to that sold sicked pork? Did you try to buy pork at discount prices?
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@UltraGamer9999999999 So when I quote expert, you just either blame my sources as biased or fake news? Dr Peter Forster, a geneticist Cambridge University has identified 3 Covid-19 strains (A, B, C) Type-A is believed to have leaped from bats to humans (animal-to-human transmission) and Type-B is mutated from Type-A and found predominantly in China while Type-C is mutated from Type-B and found predominantly outside China, in places like Singapore. Video: No proof that Covid-19 originated in Wuhan: Peter Forster youtu.be/AQQf2yoymu0 The interesting thing is that the Europe and America suffer predominantly from Type-A virus (animal-to-human transmission) and Type-A is predominantly found outside East Asia, in Europeans and Americans. So could it be possible that Americans brought the Type-A (animal-to-human) strain to Wuhan?
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@agent1.618 There are many viruses like Bird Flu, Swine Flu, H1N1, MERS, and other virus outbreaks that still occur regardless of wet markets. So why should China change our eating habits, when virus mutation is random in nature and can occur anywhere, anytime, regardless of Chinese eating habits?
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@wafiameher3501 I'm Chinese, so why can't I defend Chinese eating habits? I mean, Chinese cuisine is delicious and people all over the world have proclaimed their love of Chinese food. Want something flavorful? Try our Sweet & Sour Pork. If you want something meaty, we have Peking Duck. If you want something light, we have Dim Sum Dumplings. If you're in a hurry, just grab convenient Baozi (Pork Bun) and eat it on the go. If you like mild spicy, care to try our Kung Pao Chicken? If you like very spicy, dare to try our Mapo Tofu? If you are vegetarian, we have vegetarian Springrolls. And we are tofu heaven. If you like rice, we have Fried Rice. If you like noodles, we have Chow Mein. If you like porridge, we have Congee. If you like soups, we have Hotpot. If you like seafood, well you're in luck, because Chinese love seafood too. Food is life, and no culture celebrates food as much as Chinese culture, whether it is the preparation of food or its consumption.
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@kus4kus4 There's a possibility that coronavirus may not have originated in China, only detected in China. An Italian Doctor suggested that Covid-19 was present in Italy since November 2019. "Strange pneumonia" cases were already reported in Nov 2019, back in Lombardy, the northern part of Italy. This was months before China had an outbreak with the virus starting on Dec. China might just be where the first case of Coronavirus was detected, but it is not the main place wherein the virus originated. This is what a leading doctor in Italy confessed in a report saying that there's a possibility that COVID-19 did not originate in Wuhan, China but somewhere else-- or maybe in Italy itself. Source: First 'Strange Pneumonia' Case Reported in November 2019 in Italy techtimes.com/articles/248263/20200323/coronavirus-possibly-come-china-italy-first-detected-strange-pneumonia-months-wuhan-outbreak.htm As mentioned by one of the country's leading doctors named Giuseppe Remuzzi, the director of the Mario Negri Institute for Pharmacological Research in Milan, he said that there were already few cases in Italy of this unknown virus that has been severe for older people in Nov. up to Dec.
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@kus4kus4 A geneticist from Cambridge University, Dr Peter Forster and his team have identified 3 Covid-19 strains (A, B, C) Type-A is believed to be strain that leaped from bats to humans (animal-to-human) and Type-B is mutated from Type-A and found predominantly in China, while Type-C is mutated from Type-B and found outside China in places like Singapore. Video: No proof that Covid-19 originated in Wuhan: Peter Forster youtu.be/AQQf2yoymu0 The interesting thing is that the Type-A (animal-to-human) is found predominantly outside East Asia, in USA and Europe.
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@kus4kus4 But out of the 3 types (A, B, C) Type-A is believed to be the strain that leaped from bats to humans and its found predominantly outside East Asia, in USA and Europe. Source: Phylogenetic Network Analysis of SARS-CoV-2 Genomes pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32269081/ which we have named A, B, and C, with A being the ancestral type according to the bat outgroup coronavirus. The A and C types are found in significant proportions outside East Asia, that is, in Europeans and Americans. In contrast, the B type is the most common type in East Asia.
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@MisterHeroman China's is also properly prepared.
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@jcgrx2251 How to sanitise wet markets, you tell me? There are even wet markets in Japan and South Korea, here's Hakodate Wet Market in Japan. Video: Hakodate Seafood Market - Japan youtu.be/SskPtUAcUKQ
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@kus4kus4 "IMO it's a lot safer than what I see in Wuhan (but still risky)" What bats have you seen in Wuhan? Which Wuhan market did you visit?
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@brierobinson194 Why don't you preach you vegan message to the USA, the world's largest consumer of meat? Here's a list of countries by meat consumption per capita. List of countries by meat consumption in 2017 1. United States (98.60 kg/person) 2. Australia (94.61 kg/person) 3. Argentina (91.40 kg/person) 4. Uruguay (81.04 kg/person) 5. Israel (80.35 kg/person) 6. Brazil (78.60 kg/person) 7. The Netherlands (76.60 kg/person) 8. New Zealand (72.14 kg/person) 9. Chile (71.97 kg/person) 10. Canada (69.99 kg/person) ... 18. China (50.20 kg/person) ... Source: List of countries by meat consumption per capita wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_meat_consumption_per_capita#Accuracy
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@kus4kus4 Here's another source debunking dogs, snakes, bats and rats being sold in Wuhan seafood market. Source: Are there really dogs, snakes, rats and bats for sale at the Wuhan market where coronavirus originated? observers.france24.com/en/20200204-china-debunked-coronavirus-dogs-snakes-rats-bats-wuhan-market-indonesia In short, these videos weren’t filmed in Wuhan or, indeed, anywhere else in China. Instead, they were filmed 3,400 kilometres away in Indonesia.
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@MJ-oi6ul Tulane virologist Robert Garry, PhD, and a team of researchers analyzed the genome sequence of Covid-19 and found no evidence that the virus was made in a laboratory or otherwise engineered. Video: Virologist explains origins of Covid-19 youtu.be/YLykxJqTBpU
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@MJ-oi6ul "China is the only country that changed its 'death' numbers, they are the ones probably lying" France suddenly increased its number of reports, because up until then, it had not counted deaths that had occurred outside of hospitals and previously only counted hospital deaths. Once they started counting deaths in nursing homes, the numbers increased dramatically. You're just anti-China and blaming China that's all. Video: Should China be blamed for Covid-19 youtu.be/PeaPeIvM_9E?t=60 Even in America, there are many unreported cases, deaths in nursing homes, because American does not have enough testing kits for everyone (contrary to what Trump claims).
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@mdb2879 Which reporter was killed in Wuhan and made a last video?
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@rosh_ediriweera It has already been debunked that rats, snakes, dogs and cats are sold in Wuhan Seafood Market. Source: Are there really dogs, snakes, rats and bats for sale at the Wuhan market where coronavirus originated? observers.france24.com/en/20200204-china-debunked-coronavirus-dogs-snakes-rats-bats-wuhan-market-indonesia Also, right at the start of the video, the words ‘"Pasar EXTREAM Langowan" appear on the screen. The July 2019 posting says in the caption that it was filmed in Langowan, an area in Indonesia's North Sulawesi province. Journalists at news agency Agence France-Presse also pointed out that a sign at the start of the video reads "Kantar Pasor Langowan", which means “Office of the Langowan market”. In short, these videos weren’t filmed in Wuhan or, indeed, anywhere else in China. Instead, they were filmed 3,400 kilometres away in Indonesia.
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@emmabutler1953 "because you all eat random wild animals unhygienically." Western countries also hunt wild animals like rabbits (for rabbit stew) quail, pheasant and other game animals for human consumption. Even the Australian eat kangaroo meat (and kangaroos are all wild animals) so why blame China? Till today, nobody knows the true origin of the coronavirus and scientists are still investigating.
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@rosh_ediriweera Source: No, Coronavirus Was Not Caused by 'Bat Soup'–But Here's What Researchers Think May Be to Blame health.com/condition/infectious-diseases/coronavirus-bat-soup
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@rosh_ediriweera "神州 Shenzhou Has there at least been 3 outbreaks off diseases from those markets?" What are the 3 outbreaks off diseases from those markets? Look at Bird Flu, Swine Flu, H1N1, MERS (Middle Eastern Respiratory Syndrome) or other virus outbreak occur regardless of wet markets, so closing down wet markets does not mean that virus outbreaks will disappear.
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@rosh_ediriweera "神州 Shenzhou then how come we are dealing with this" China had informed the World Health Organization of mysterious new virus strain on 31st Dec 2019. By 5th Jan 2020 China had isolated the strain from multiple other flu viruses and by 7th Jan, China had sequenced Covid-19 genome in record time and shared the information with WHO by 11th Jan. China actually bought the West valuable time to prepare for the eventual arrival of Covid-19 onto their shores, but most Western countries just squandered the headstart that China bought them. Source: China Bought the West Time. The West Squandered It. nytimes.com/2020/03/13/opinion/china-response-china.html
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@omarzaim6844 Wet Markets exist all over East Asia (China, Japan, Korea) South East Asia (Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines, etc) and even in Africa and South America, so why should all wet markets be banned? Because you say so?
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@johnspinelli9396 Look at Bird Flu, Swine Flu, H1N1, MERS, and other virus outbreaks that occur regardless of wet markets. Banning wet markets doesn't stop virus outbreaks from happening, so why should China close our wet markets? Many other countries like Japan, Korea, South East Asia (Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines) and even Spain have wet markets too.
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@johnspinelli9396 The bat soup coronavirus origins myth have long been debunked by experts. Source: No, Coronavirus Was Not Caused by 'Bat Soup' health.com/condition/infectious-diseases/coronavirus-bat-soup Coronavirus did not originate in Wuhan seafood market, Chinese scientists say analysis of genomic data from 93 samples of the novel coronavirus suggests it was imported from elsewhere. Source: Coronavirus did not originate in Wuhan seafood market scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3051981/coronavirus-did-not-originate-wuhan-seafood-market-chinese About Chinese transparency, even President Trump has praised China's efforts and transparency regarding the coronavirus outbreak in January. Source: Trump: U.S. appreciates China's 'efforts and transparency' on coronavirus reuters.com/article/us-china-health-usa-trump/trump-u-s-appreciates-chinas-efforts-and-transparency-on-coronavirus-idUSKBN1ZN2IK
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@johnspinelli9396 Now you're just being anti-China that's all. The coronavirus being manufactured in a lab has been debunked by experts. Video: Virologist explains origins of COVID-19 youtu.be/YLykxJqTBpU Tulane virologist Robert Garry, PhD, and a team of researchers analyzed the genome sequence of the novel SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus and found no evidence that the virus was made in a laboratory or otherwise engineered.
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@johnspinelli9396 Here's another source debunking Wuhan virology lab conspiracy. Source: The Wuhan Virus Is Not a Lab-Made Bioweapon foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/29/coronavirus-china-lab-mortality-virology-wuhan-virus-not-bioweapon/ You mock Chinese eating habits, but the French eat snails and horsemeat, British eat rabbit stew and Australians eat kangaroo meat, so who are you to mock China's eating habits?
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@johnspinelli9396 "I am against China because they are Communist, which is the worst economic and political system ever thought of." Granted, the Communist Party of China is certainly not perfect (then again which government body truly is?) but despite its initial failures and setbacks, under its leadership, China's population doubled, our lifespans doubled, our literacy rates doubled, and our poverty rates plummeted. The graph below shows life-expectencies across China, USA and India. Source: Life expectancy at birth, total (years) - China, India, United States data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.LE00.IN?locations=CN-IN-US China was once a dirt-poor, war-torn, starving country similar to India (world's largest democracy) in the past, but today, China has since transformed into world's 2nd largest economy, the world's factory (Made in China) having world's 2nd highest R&D spending, protected by world's largest land army, the People's Liberation Army, funded by world's 2nd highest military expenditure. And it's all been achieved under communist party leadership, despite Western anti-Communist propaganda constantly denouncing China's success all along.
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@johnspinelli9396 "Pandemics like this could have been stopped quicker if your country was democratic." When China impose lockdown on Wuhan, your democratic countries accused China of "draconian" measures so how would China being a democratic country stop this pandemic quicker? In the end, your democratic countries also imposed various degrees of lockdown on your own countries so why the double standards? China has informed World Health Organization of mysterious new virus strain on 31st Dec 2019. By 5th Jan 2020 China had isolated the strain out of billions and identified it and by 7th Jan 2020, China had sequenced Covid-19 genome completely in record time and shared the information with WHO. China actually bought the West valuable time to prepare for the eventual arrival of Covid-19 onto their shores, but most Western countries just squandered the headstart that China bought them. Source: China Bought the West Time. The West Squandered It. nytimes.com/2020/03/13/opinion/china-response-china.html So how does China being democratic equal to the pandemic getting stopped faster?
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@johnspinelli9396 Have you actually been to China and see what life is like here for yourself? What makes you think Chinese people aren't free? Chinese are free to travel overseas for work, study or play. I mean, Everyone has heard of Chinese tourists visiting your countries and spending money on your economies. Western schools and universities are positively flooded with Chinese international students, studying the same topics as their peers and Chinese investors are buying up property in your lands. Source: China has world's most outbound tourists nationmultimedia.com/detail/travel/30355861 Source: China is now world's biggest source of international students scmp.com/news/china/society/article/1797429/china-now-worlds-biggest-source-international-students-more So what makes you think Chinese people aren't free? Chinese can be found virtually all over the globe today, since we make up 20% of the world's population after all.
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@johnspinelli9396 Have you been on Chinese social media website like Sina Weibo, WeChat and so on? Chinese netizens criticise the government on social media all the time, how else to show you? What happened in Tiananmen Square? Tiananmen Square is a parade ground in Beijing where Mao Zedong proclaimed the founding of the People's Republic of China in 1949 and where the portrait of Mao is hung. We recently held a massive military parade in Tiananmen Square celebrating 70 years of PRC's founding. Video: Highlights: China celebrates 70th anniversary with biggest ever military parade youtu.be/Lmp51YN-7wc
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@johnspinelli9396 "Your country could have been even better if it had remained as the Republic of China before the communists took over." Well, why did Republic of China 🇹🇼 even lose the mainland to People's Republic of China 🇨🇳 and had to flee to Formosa (Taiwan)? Back then, nobody expected the communists to succeed yet look at how history unfolded. During the Chinese Civil War, the communists were at a severe disadvantage; they were mostly poorly trained peasants, their weapons were lousy, and they had far fewer numbers (only 50 communist members in 1921) over the Kuomintang. The KMT on the other hand, had massive wealth (they taxed the peasants heavily) they had superior weapons, better training, and far superior numbers over the the communists. Securing victory against the communists should have been a piece of cake for the KMT. Yet the communists survived all KMT attempts to wipe them out, employing strategies like "Long March" (长征) and despite KMT's initial advantages, the KMT still lost the mainland to communists and had to flee to Formosa (Taiwan). This demonstrates KMT's gross incompetence in their right to rule the mainland. So why should China remain under the Republic of China when they lose the mainland to poorly trained, ill-equipped, heavily outnumbered, starving communists peasants?
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@johnspinelli9396 What happened? Nothing happened in Tiananmen Square 1989, so why are you bringing it up again and again?
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@emmabutler1953 Animals being torched alive? Even in Western countries, your chefs boil lobsters alive so what's the difference then? Video: Boiling Live Lobster youtu.be/IuqMYYjKX6Q (Warning: Footage may be disturbing for some viewers)
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@emmabutler1953 What's the difference? Both food animals are cooked alive, here's another video of boiling lobster and nobody complains about boiling lobsters alive. (Warning: Footage may be disturbing for some viewers) Video: Boiling Lobsters Alive youtu.be/nSMzMExEIMo Who are you to apply preferential treatment to different food animals?
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@Carrera6rennsport Japan and Korea copied Chinese culture like growing rice, cultivating silk clothing, using chopsticks, Chinese architecture, bonzai (pengzai), Chinese musical instruments, even reading and writing Chinese characters (Hanzi) poetry and calligraphy. Take Han Chinese traditional clothing Hanfu (汉服) for example and it has 5,000 years of history and even the Japanese Kimono and Korean Hanbok clothing have their origins in Chinese Hanfu. Video: Beautiful Traditional Costume: Han Chinese Clothing (Hanfu) youtu.be/T6CucJxiWec?t=5
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Dark of the knight Hygiene standards? Here's video of Hakodate Seafood Market in Japan and how's it any different from China's? Video: Hakodate Seafood Market - Japan youtu.be/SskPtUAcUKQ
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@christopherkucinski2383 You're clearly anti-China, you mock our wet markets hygiene when it's literally comparable to Japanese wet markets, because you're anti-China. Why pretend you aren't anti-China here?
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@christopherkucinski2383 "神州 Shenzhou , you are CCP troll deleting all sensible replies." How do I delete all replies? At the most I can only delete my own comments but why are you accusing me of deleting all sensible replies? Could the free and democratic YouTube somehow be deleting your comments? Absolutely impossible! There's simply no way that YouTube of all websites would censor comments! Simply ridiculous! Completely unfathomable! YouTube absolutely does not delete comments, it's a product of a free and democratic society after all!
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Louisana Crayfish. And Chinese love those, we consume 90% of the world's crayfish every year and its not even native to China. Video: How Louisana Crayfish Became China's National Dish youtu.be/Jyk-thHca90
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@Fauzanarief-n7i The French eat snails and horsemeat, British eat Rabbit stew, and Australian eat kangaroo meat, so why should China change our eating habits? Because you say so?
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@DarthVader00007 "People eat raw meat with soya sauce is the problem" What Chinese dish involves raw meat with soya sauce? The Japanese eat sushi and sashimi which fits your description.
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@StephenMortimer Today the Manchu have pretty much, renounced their Manchu culture and assimilated into Chinese culture.
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@StephenMortimer Today, the United States is consist of Caucasian American (white), African American (black), Latin American (brown), Asian Americans (yellow) and Native Americans (red) and they are all Americans. Just like China has over 50 ethnic groups including Han, Tibetan, Mongol, Manchu, and even some Koreans in Northeastern China. But they are all Chinese so why should China switch our capital?
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@aeoliaschenberg5880 "people who eat bat get the virus. That's a fact." That has been debunked by experts. Source: No, Coronavirus Was Not Caused by 'Bat Soup' health.com/condition/infectious-diseases/coronavirus-bat-soup
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@aeoliaschenberg5880 New York actually got most of their cases from Europe, not China. New research indicates that the coronavirus began to circulate in the New York area by mid-February, weeks before the first confirmed case, and that travelers brought in the virus mainly from Europe, not Asia. Source: Most New York Coronavirus Cases Came From Europe, Genomes Show nytimes.com/2020/04/08/science/new-york-coronavirus-cases-europe-genomes.html “The majority is clearly European,” said Harm van Bakel, a geneticist at Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai, who co-wrote a study awaiting peer review.
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@aeoliaschenberg5880 Because back in 2019, there's no actual confirmation of human-to-human transmission of the coronavirus. Even Hong Kong SARS expect Dr Guan Yi claims that there was no human-to-human transmission. The first human-to-human transmission case in China was confirmed only on 20th Jan 2020 and that's when the government began implementing quarantine measures shortly after. Source: China confirms human-to-human transmission theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/20/coronavirus-spreads-to-beijing-as-china-confirms-new-cases (Dated to 20th Jan 2020)
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@aeoliaschenberg5880 In 24 January, even President Trump has praised China's efforts and transparency in handling the coronavirus outbreak. US President Donald Trump thanked China on Friday (Jan 24) for its "efforts and transparency" in tackling a deadly virus that has triggered a vast quarantine in the country. Source: Trump praises China 'efforts and transparency' on Wuhan virus straitstimes.com/world/united-states/trump-praises-china-efforts-and-transparency-on-wuhan-virus "China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus," Trump tweeted, hours after the United States confirmed its second case of the Sars-like virus that has reached half a dozen countries. "The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency," he added. "It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!"
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@aeoliaschenberg5880 Just 6 days to investigate and you already blame China? The investigation takes time and since there was no indication of human-to-human transmission, then why should China shut down our economy without proof? Only on 20th Jan 2020 was there actual confirmation of human-to-human transmission of coronavirus and that's when the government began implementing quarantine measures shortly after. Source: China confirms human-to-human transmission of new coronavirus aljazeera.com/news/2020/01/china-confirms-human-human-transmission-coronavirus-200120162507948.html (Dated to 21st Jan 2020) The government is acting based on information gleamed from the ground, not rumours and hearsay. And it was only Jan 20th that evidence of human-to-human transmission emerged so why blame China? The USA has had 3 months to prepare for the eventual arrival of Covid-19 onto their shores, but what did USA do?
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@aeoliaschenberg5880 Here's an article dating to 8th January 2020 and there was no evidence of human-to-human transmission. There is no evidence that the new virus is readily spread by humans, which would make it particularly dangerous, and it has not been tied to any deaths. But health officials in China and elsewhere are watching it carefully to ensure that the outbreak does not develop into something more severe. Source: China Identifies New Virus Causing Pneumonialike Illness nytimes.com/2020/01/08/health/china-pneumonia-outbreak-virus.html “We can assume that this virus transmissibility is not that high,” said Guan Yi, a professor of infectious diseases at the University of Hong Kong, who was part of a team that successfully identified the coronavirus that caused SARS. So even Hong Kong professor of infectious diseases and SARS expert, Dr Guan Yi, said that this virus transmissiblity is low. And this was in 8th Jan 2020.
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@weimondo What's the name of the Chinese Traditional Medicine that uses bat? Here's a list of Chinese Traditional Medicine and when has bat ever been used in TCM? Source: List of traditional Chinese medicine wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_traditional_Chinese_medicines
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@weimondo So what's your point then? Bat soup has already been debunked by experts. Source: Don’t Blame Bat Soup for the Coronavirus foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/27/coronavirus-covid19-dont-blame-bat-soup-for-the-virus/ Racist memes target Chinese eating habits, but the real causes of the virus are more mundane.
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@Cosmo1093 New York actually got most of their Covid-19 cases from Europe, not China. New research indicates that the coronavirus began to circulate in the New York area by mid-February, weeks before the first confirmed case, and that travelers brought in the virus mainly from Europe, not Asia. Source: Most New York Coronavirus Cases Came From Europe, Genomes Show nytimes.com/2020/04/08/science/new-york-coronavirus-cases-europe-genomes.html “The majority is clearly European,” said Harm van Bakel, a geneticist at Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai, who co-wrote a study awaiting peer review.
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@Cosmo1093 When the outbreak occurred in Italy, none of its European neighbours bothered to help, its actually China that sent a planeload of medical supplies, including masks and respirators, to Italy to help it deal with its growing coronavirus crisis. A team of nine Chinese medical staff arrived in Italy with some 30 tonnes of equipment on a flight organized by the Chinese Red Cross. Source: China sends medical supplies, experts to help Italy battle coronavirus reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-respirators-idUSKBN2101IM In contrast to China, Italy’s partners in the European Union earlier this month refused Rome’s requests for help with medical supplies as they looked to stockpile face masks and other equipment to help their own citizens.
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@Red Disaster Hey, Singapore recently jumped by 900 new cases, what's your government doing?
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@Red Disaster Singapore is in lockdown? I thought world nations praised Singapore’s handling of Covid-19, so what's there to praise?
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@Cosmo1093 So it was actually an American man that brought the first coronavirus to USA? Then why did you accuse Chinese of bringing the virus to USA when it was their own Americans that brought the virus? You're just anti-China that's all. And Dr Peter Forster is only listing a possibility, because he has no actual proof at the moment.
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@Cosmo1093 It should be noted that Dr Peter Forster's latest study has not been peer-reviewedg yet. If Type-A really came from Southern China then why is it there weren't any earlier reports of this infection in South China? Because Wuhan appears to be predominantly Type-B so it's likely that it didn't begun in Wuhan.
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@Cosmo1093 China is donating medical supplies to other countries affected by Covid-19. Video: Jack Ma donates 500,000 coronavirus testing kits and 1,000,000 masks to the US youtu.be/t4it58bem6I Video: Chinese donate half a million masks to Italy to aid coronavirus fight youtu.be/tQQa7RUKXzs Video: Chinese donate 70,000 masks to Japan to aid coronavirus fight youtu.be/cYkYHauUmwo Video: 300,000 China-donated masks arrive in Belgium youtu.be/B0oxcoh9rDo
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@Red Disaster Singapore's political environment is stifling, why don't you criticise Singapore government then? According to Human Rights Watch: Singapore (Link: hrw.org/asia/singapore ) Singapore’s political environment is stifling. Citizens face severe restrictions on their basic rights to freedom of expression, association, and peaceful assembly through overly broad criminal laws and regulations. In 2017, the country tightened the already strict limits on public assemblies contained in the Public Order Act, which requires police permits for any “cause-related” assembly outside the closely monitored “Speakers’ Corner.”
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@Red Disaster PM Lee Hsien Loong's authoritarian regime is reimposing a climate of fear similar to his father's after a brief dalliance with more openness. Source: No dissident thoughts allowed in Singapore asiatimes.com/2017/12/no-dissident-thoughts-allowed-singapore/ After months of investigations, Singapore police finally dropped a bombshell at the end of November: social worker and activist Jolovan Wham would be charged for organizing public assemblies without a permit, vandalism and refusing to sign police statements.
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@Red Disaster Why don't you Singapore worry about your 942 new infections? Criticise your own government handling and see what happens. Source: Daily high of 942 new COVID-19 cases reported in Singapore channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-new-cases-singapore-942-apr-18-dormitories-12655240
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