Comments by "神州 Shenzhou" (@Shenzhou.) on "Channel 4 News"
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The Chinese Communist Party is not perfect (then again, which government body is?) but despite its initial failures and setbacks, under its leadership, China's population doubled, our lifespans doubled, our literacy rates doubled and our poverty rates plummeted. The graph below shows life-expectencies across China, India, Europe and USA.
Source: Life Expectancy at Birth in China, Europe, USA and India china-profile.com/data/fig_WPP2010_L0_Boths.htm
China was once dirt-poor, war-torn, starving country, similar to India (world's largest democracy) in the past, but today, China has since transformed into world's 2nd largest economy, the world's factory (Made in China), the world's 3rd largest arms exporter, having world's 2nd highest R&D spending, protected by world's largest land army, the People's Liberation Army and funded by world's 2nd highest military expenditure.
And it had been achieved under CCP leadership, despite Western anti-Communist propaganda constantly denouncing China's success.
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@klhilde Mao did not kill those people, they starved to death because of Great Chinese Famine, which was caused by bad weather conditions like flood and drought, causing destruction of crops and resulting in a poor harvest. Even Mao Zedong can't possibly control the weather now isn't it? And if not for Mao, China today would still be divided and fighting among ourselves, because the previous Republic of China (1912-1949) failed to unify China, even after 37 years.
Mao Zedong is the reason why China is unified today after he proclaimed People's Republic of China in 1949. Without a Chinese Communist Party, China today would be fragmented into Tibet, Xinjiang, Inner Mongolia, Manchuria, Northern China, Southern China, Hainan Islands, etc, instead of the strong unified country we are today. So that's the "imagination" of what China could have been today, if there had never been a CCP. A fragmented, divided country.
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@klhilde China has 5000 years of history and our culture is far too expansive to be destroyed completely. The previous Mongol and Manchu conquerors of China tried to wipe out Han culture, but ended up assimilating into Chinese culture instead. China still have many historical monuments like The Great Wall of China, The Forbidden City, Qin Emperor Tomb, Terracotta Army, The Grand Canal (world's oldest and longest artificial river) and many more. In fact, according UNESCO World Heritage sites, China has 55 world heritage sites, ranking top in the world, so China has more UNESCO World Heritage sites than any other country in the world.
Source: China has 55, ranking top in the world wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_Heritage_Sites_in_China
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@klhilde China has 5000 years of history and is among the world's oldest 'continuous' civilization still alive today, whereas other great ancient civilizations like Mesopotamia, Rome and Egypt have since succumbed to history. Ancient Chinese nobility wore luxurious silk clothing since 4th millennium BCE, while the rest of the world wore mostly loincloths and "bedsheets" called togas. Silk was much prized by rest of the world, so much that a lucrative trade route had been set up and named in honor of the precious material. Along the Silk Road, flowed Chinese luxury goods like silk, tea, paper, gunpowder, porcelain (precious china), etc, that were in high demand by the rest of the ancient world.
China has always been under authoritarian rule (and we still are today) of emperors and the Imperial Court, so how is CCP not the rightful heir of Chinese culture? In 1911, Dr. Sun overthrew the previous Qing Dynasty China and established Republic of China, but was eventually overthrown by Mao who proclaimed People's Republic of China in 1949, so how is CCP not the rightful heir of Chinese culture?
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Huawei and Alibaba are not the only global companies in mainland China, there's so many other Chinese companies like Xiaomi, ZTE, Oppo, LENOVO, DJI, Haier, Tencent, JD, Baidu, Meituan-Dianping, NetEase, Bank of China, AgBank, ICBC, China Construction Bank, Ping An Insurance Group, Shenhua Energy, Sinopec Group, China National Petroleum, and so on. Many of these companies even made it onto lists by business magazines such as Fortune Global 500 and Forbes Global 2000
Sources:
List of largest banks wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_banks
List of largest Internet companies wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_Internet_companies
Forbes Global 2000 wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbes_Global_2000
Fortune Global 500 wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortune_Global_500
But where are all those famous companies from Hong Kong? How can Hong Kong hope to compete with the sheer economic might of the mainland?
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suburben yobbo About the One Child Policy, in the past China was still dirt-poor country, suffering from high birth rate, high child malnutrition, high child mortality, high illiteracy and other population problems at that time. Why allow families in China to raise multiple kids, only for them to starve to death, succumb to childhood diseases, and having not enough food, not enough hospitals, and not enough schools to send them all to? Why focus all available resources into raising a single, healthy kid into adulthood, and get him into a good school? This is the reasoning behind One-Child Policy.
According to World Bank, China's poverty rate fell from 88% in 1981 to a mere 0.7% in 2015. According to UNESCO, adult literacy rate of China increased from 65.5% in 1982 to a whopping 96.4% in 2015 growing at an average annual rate of 10.39%. This is impressive feat considering that China is world's most populous country, yet attaining 0.7% poverty and 96.4% literacy.
Source: Wikipedia: Poverty in China
Look at India, world's 2nd largest population country, and India is suffering from high birth rate, high child malnutrition, high child mortality, high illiteracy and other population problems that China once suffered from in the past.
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@Ben Shen Agreed that the society as a whole has to prove itself and China has done that. Modern China was built by the blood, tears and sacrifice of the Chinese people to turn China from dirt-poor, war-torn, starving country similar to India (world's largest democracy) in the past, into an economic powerhouse, the world's factory (Made in China) a growing scientific and technological power today. While the Chinese Communist Party is not perfect (then again, which government body is?) but despite its initial failures and setbacks, under its leadership, China's population doubled, our lifespans doubled, our literacy rates doubled and our poverty rates plummeted.
The graph below shows life-expectancies across China, India, Europe and USA.
Source: Life Expectancy at Birth in China, Europe, USA and India china-profile.com/data/fig_WPP2010_L0_Boths.htm
And it had all been achieved under CCP leadership, despite Western anti-communist propaganda constantly denouncing China's success.
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@tingli3403 Hong Kong was once a thriving port city under British rule, while mainland China was still dirt poor at that time. Today however, times have changed and Hong Kong has since fallen behind other rising mainland port cities like Shanghai, Shenzhen, Guangzhou, Ningbo-Zhousan and is facing increasing competition from upcoming mainland cities like Qingdao, Tianjin, Xiamen, Dalian, etc.
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List of busiest container ports wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_busiest_container_ports
List of busiest ports by cargo tonnage wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_busiest_ports_by_cargo_tonnage
And this is inspite of mainland cities being under authoritarian CCP rule, and Hong Kong being under their own democratic government rule. No wonder why the Hong Kong people feel like they're being left behind, as mainland cities start surpassing Hong Kong.
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suburben yobbo The Chinese Communist Party is not perfect (then again, which government body is?) but despite its initial failures and setbacks, under its leadership, China's population doubled, our lifespans doubled, our literacy rates doubled and our poverty rates plummeted. The graph below shows life-expectencies across China, India, Europe and USA.
Source: Life Expectancy at Birth in China, Europe, USA and India china-profile.com/data/fig_WPP2010_L0_Boths.htm
And about India, India has the world's highest infant mortality rate. Source: economictimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/india-had-worlds-highest-child-mortality-rate-in-2015-lancet-study/articleshow/69338346.cms
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suburben yobbo As the country with world's largest population, China has the most brainpower to come up with plans and ideas, as well as the most manpower to implement said plans and turn ideas into reality. Larger populations have more geniuses, so there should be 4 Chinese geniuses to every 1 American genius. Source: China's Statistical Advantage: iiipublishing.com/blog/2018/06/blog_06_07_2018.html
Taken from the above:
Consider two standard bell curves, say one with 1.4 billion people and one with 326 million. The number of average people in China is very close to 4.3 times the number of average people in the U.S. That is also true for those in the top 2% say, which produces scientists, the best business and government people, and the most competent computer programmers. Even there, China would have a 4.3 to 1 advantage, which would be quite an advantage, everything else being equal.
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suburben yobbo China is pouring funds into research and development, and China already has world's 2nd highest R&D spending and catching up fast to the United States. Source: wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_research_and_development_spending
1. United States ($511.1 billion)
2. China ($451.9 billion) <--
3. European Union ($379.0 billion)
4. Japan ($165.7 billion)
5. Germany ($118.8 billion)
6. South Korea ($91.6 billion)
In the West, researchers offend have to worry about funding, so they write papers and cite other peoples work to improve their credibility, so that they can expand their academic circles, get approval of grants so that they can publish more papers. It has degenerated into an academic system and many researcher's ideas remain on paper, instead of being turned into actual products.
Whereas in China, research funds are available at all tiers of society, from corporate to government sector, and a struggling research can easily get a $40,000 funding approval, thus freeing the researcher to concentrate on his/her research instead of having to worry about funding. The idea-to-product transition time in China is short too, so many researchers can feel a sense of satisfaction, witnessing their ideas being turned to actual products.
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@klhilde China is pouring funds into research and development, and China already has world's 2nd highest R&D spending and catching up fast to the United States. Source: wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_research_and_development_spending
1. United States ($511.1 billion)
2. China ($451.9 billion) <--
3. European Union ($379.0 billion)
4. Japan ($165.7 billion)
5. Germany ($118.8 billion)
6. South Korea ($91.6 billion)
In the West, researchers offend have to worry about funding, so they write papers and cite other peoples work to improve their credibility, so that they can expand their academic circles, get approval of grants so that they can publish more papers. It has degenerated into an academic system and many researcher's ideas remain on paper, instead of being turned into actual products.
Whereas in China, research funds are available at all tiers of society, from corporate to government sector, and a struggling research can easily get a $40,000 funding approval, thus freeing the researcher to concentrate on his/her research instead of having to worry about funding. The idea-to-product transition time in China is short too, so many researchers can feel a sense of satisfaction, witnessing their ideas being turned to actual products.
How can Hong Kong even hope to compete with the sheer economic might of mainland China?
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@Ben Shen What makes you think Chinese learning potential is being held back? The Chinese government is pouring funds into research and development, and China already has world's 2nd highest R&D spending and catching up fast to the United States. Source: wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_research_and_development_spending
1. United States ($511.1 billion)
2. China ($451.9 billion) <--
3. European Union ($379.0 billion)
4. Japan ($165.7 billion)
5. Germany ($118.8 billion)
6. South Korea ($91.6 billion)
In the West, researchers offend have to worry about funding, so they write papers and cite other peoples work to improve their credibility, so that they can expand their academic circles, get approval of grants so that they can publish more papers. It has degenerated into an academic system and many researcher's ideas remain on paper, instead of being turned into actual products.
Whereas in China, research funds are available at all tiers of society, from corporate to government sector, and a struggling research can easily get a $40,000 funding approval, thus freeing the researcher to concentrate on his/her research instead of having to worry about funding. The idea-to-product transition time in China is short too, so many researchers can feel a sense of satisfaction, witnessing their ideas being turned to actual products.
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@suburbenyobbo CCP is evil? China today is currently at peace and not at war with any country, since our last major conflict in 1979. Instead of making war, China is investing in developing countries like Sri Lanka, Nepal, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and also African countries like Nigeria, Kenya, Ghana, Chad, Sudan, Mozambique, Tanzania, etc.
Whereas the United States is warmonger being involved in Gulf War, Iraq War, Afghan War, Libyan War, Syrian War, etc, even in the 21st century. The United States is bombing those Middle Eastern countries (Iraq Body Count Project reported some 200,000 Iraqi civilians deaths) and enacting regime change by cutting off those countries "heads" (Saddam Hussein, Muammar Gaddafi, etc) and then installing their own US puppet governments in place.
Source: Iraq Body Count iraqbodycount.org
Now it appears that Assad of Syria and Maduro of Venezuela are at risk of US regime change agenda.
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