Comments by "神州 Shenzhou" (@Shenzhou.) on "Bloomberg Originals" channel.

  1. If Taiwan declares independence, China will use it as an excuse to "quell" a rebellious state and under the One-China policy, this will constitute a civil war. If US joins in, they'll be breaking the policy and it will be seen as an invasion by China. If they don't interfere, they can always resume trade relations with the victor. Which choice will the US make?
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  2. That sounds like what the US did during Korean War.
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  3. +Mewmewmew:3 US supported S.Korea and prevented Korea from being unified.
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  4. hiroanz Lets hope it doesn't come to it. War costs a lot of money which could be spent instead on improving US economic situation.
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  5. Kory Toombs US press is controlled by rich corporations and can also be liberal biased or conservative biased. Not to mention the negative way they portray China most of the time.
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  6. Nathan Jones Democracy is not without its flaws. Democracy allows even someone who knows nothing of politics to come to power by playing on people's emotions, like Trump. At least in our system, the candidate has to go through intensive political training to rise into power as the President. We are at least confident that our leader knows our political situation. It's a preconceived notion that democracy is always superior. China chooses a system that suits our needs best.
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  7. China supports 21% of the world population, using only 7% of arable land. There is even enough food to export to other countries.
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  8. Function Motors China has a one-China policy that is recognized by most of the world. unfortunately Korea doesn't.
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  9. rr 22 1. China's economic development is slowing down but there are still room for development. As for becoming a fully developed nation, CPC may one day choose to change its fundamental governing style but so far there doesn't appear to have a need to. CPC will probably push the limits of how far it can govern under the current system. 2. Overhauling the political system doesn't necessarily mean that the corruption will disappear. There are many examples of democratic states still plagued by corruption, so each nation deals with its own corruption differently. 3. Some Chinese think democracy is not suitable for China because of its large 1.3 billion population. The recent US election has left the country deeply divided among rightist and leftist and if such a thing were to happen to China, the country might risk breaking up just like the Soviet Union. A few million votes is already capable of skewing the election so imagine the same thing multiplied by China's population. Those values are important but most Chinese do not feel a low level of personal freedom. Chinese people are free to criticize the government, but the arguments must be well-grounded and preferably directed against people instead of just blaming the whole government.
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  10. Mewmewmew:3 After WW2, Korea was divided into North (controlled by Soviets) and South (controlled by US). N. Korea tried to unify Korea but was prevented by the US intervention. China's only intervene because it was allies with N. Korea and US was approaching its doorstep. N. Korea collapsing would result in mass refugees for S. Korea and China. China seeks an alternative to the collapse of N. Korea. China sends mainly food to N. Korea. N. Korea was nuclearized by Soviets. China seeks to promote denuclearization of N. Korea.
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  11. Alright funnycnn. Mewmewmew, you have no proof of those accusations. China has repeatedly stated its stance with regards to N. Korea nuclearization. China has denied sending nukes to N. Korea. China's bilateral relations with N. Korea are dealt with separately from the UN relations.
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  12. +Willie Daniels Many sources agree that the Chinese civil war began even before WW2, when Jiang Jieshi (Chiang Kai Shek) ordered the purging of thousands of communists in Shanghai. USA did not directly support Jiang but send him military aid. However, Jiang and his party were corrupt, pocketing $750 million of USA aid, even president Truman remarked on it.
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  13. 说得好。以前中国被苏联和美国利用。现在我们长大了，就可以用自己的国力统一国家。不管是台湾还是香港人，只要相信我们全部是华人。同胞加油～😄！
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  14. hiroanz Taiwan is an important ally for the US but is it worth fighting another world war over it? Russia invaded Ukraine and annexed Crimea and the US did nothing but impose sanctions. Now Trump seems to want to lift those sanctions so does it mean the US approve of the invasion? According to one-China policy, China can legally invade Taiwan but not Japan, S.Korea because they are sovereign states. Guam is also US territory so why would China invade a US base and declare war with the US?
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  15. Cooperation is better between the nations than confrontation.
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  16. Tibetans, like other Chinese minority also not subjected to One-Child policy. Only Han Chinese in cities get that.
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  17. Nathan Jones CPC may have made mistakes in the past but they have learnt from it and now China is much better.
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  18. Nathan Jones If Chinese people want political reform, they must get first get elected into local congress, then they rise through the ranks of CPC until they eventually become president or obtain some other high ranking post. This way, people can be sure the candidate knows the political system inside out.
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  19. Nathan Jones Lot's of other countries have one party system. If you look at S. Korea, Taiwan and Singapore, one party had power most of the time and this allows them to implement policies that benefit the country long-term. Our system is quite similar to those system. 1.3 billion people voting may not be the best idea. Not all of them know what is politics and what is the best for the country. In the US election, 2 million can already skew the votes so imagine the effect with China's 1.3 billion population. The whole country could fracture like the Soviet union.
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  20. +Nathan Jones Owlman Chan is right. In China, you can't change the government, but the policies can change according to what the CPC feel is the best for China. The CPC is the exact same party that went through Mao's policies that resulted in disaster. As a result, the CPC changed its policy to include capitalism and China's economy has improved greatly as a result. It is better to be pragmatic and change if an ideology doesn't work, then to be stubborn and ignore the ideology's flaws. China is no longer communist, but neither is it democratic. It changes its system to suit China's needs.
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  21. Nathan Jones​ Maybe its because the comment that started this thread is very offensive to Chinese people, especially if you don't know Chinese political history.
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  22. Nathan Jones Not every country is governed the same way. Your country's political system is different from other countries' like the US. So China's governing system is different as well.
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  23. Nathan Jones China's political system is just not democracy then. Shouldn't people be open to alternative methods of governance? Governing methods change over the years. Colonialism was once acceptable in the 18th century but is now considered severely outdated.
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  24. Nathan Jones​ Not everyone votes but those that do vote have at least dedicated a good amount of time to studying China's political situation and have the competence to vote responsibly. It's just different system is all.
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  25. Nathan Jones No, what I'm saying is that politics is not children's game. You have to be responsible if you want to vote for the nation. Can't anyhow vote, or do protest votes (null votes) and end up screwing up the system. The CPC accepts people from all backgrounds. Farmers, herders, industry workers, educated people, people who been overseas and minority ethnic groups. To rise you have to gain support from majority of these people and these are people that are committed to improving China. Total CCP membership is over 85 million. It's a different system and I won't say that it is perfect but so far, it has worked for China. I agree that you can't represent all 1.3 billion people but the system instead focuses on willing groups who vote responsibly for the nation.
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  26. Kory Toombs As far as I know, PRC has nukes and ROC doesn't, so Owlman Chan assumed that you meant China was going to nuke Taiwan to retake it. What were you trying to say then?
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  27. Kory Toombs But does PRC want to be democratic? The ROC already has difficulty balancing DPP and KMT parties with its population and it will have to handle an additional 1.3 billion people in the mainland.
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  28. BrianYYH The PLA does not control the CPC. China's government now is more socialist and its economy is more capitalist. As for N Korea, China supports denuclearization of N Korea.
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  29. BrianYYH  DPRK's nuclear threats are usually directed towards US bases in S Korea, Japan, Okinawa etc. If US pulls out these bases from the region, US saves military troops lives and equipment and DPRK maybe more willing to talk about denuclearization.
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  30. BrianYYH What I’m saying is US will prevent a war with N. Korea by pulling those military bases out of S.Korea and Japan. US stands a better chance of successful negotiation with N. Korea if they show US forces leaving those places. US can just start first with base removal in S.Korea, then get N. Korea to agree to denuclearization. Then follow up with Japan airbase and then you can get N. Korea to completely disarm. This will save on a war that will cost troops lives and equipment.   As for China pollution, CPC already knows it and is issuing fines to the companies responsible. It is those companies that do not follow anti-pollution law and illegally contribute more to pollution. CPC has also invested in renewable energy and is currently the world’s top renewable energy producer.   China has historical claim to the South China Seas and its dispute is with ASEAN, not the US. China is also not obstructing traffic flow in the region. Transport ships sail through those waters daily and commercial airplanes can still fly unmolested over the region to reach Japan and S.Korea. China and ASEAN countries have agreed to temporarily shelf the SCS disputes to focus instead on economic trade. Only the US is the one sending its warships into the region.
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  31. Clement Yang Actually, Taiwan government KMT started killing Communists first and US prevented N Korea from unifying Korea. China only joined N Korea later because it was N Korea ally.
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  32. +rr 22 But it was civil war and should not have foreign interference. UN recognised does not automatically mean that the Korean approve. Remember that Korea was united under Joseon dynasty and was divided into North (Soviets) and South (USA). Why was there division in first place?
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  33. +rr 22 China and ASEAN countries have decided to shelf the problem aside temporarily and focus on other areas of interaction.
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  34. +Clement Yang So that means KMT is justified in killing 10 000 communist members first during the Shanghai Massacre? Remember that KMT was corrupt and looks down on peasants at that time. +rr 22 The CPC is the same party that raised China from a war-torn country into a modern economic power that is potential rival to the US. It may be corrupted, but President Xi Jinping is taking steps to curb corruption. But the CPC is most efficient as there are few barriers to getting projects done. Its just a different political system is all.
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  35. Nick Sanfilippo As teacher, you shouldn't be saying such disrespectful things to another Chinese. Chinese teachers are people to be respected and in turn, they show the respect to other people. You may have learnt Chinese language but you do not fully understand Chinese culture.
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  36. Nick Sanfilippo As Chinese, what I can say is that the longer this division occurs, the more harmful for people on both sides of the Taiwan Strait. If you look at other countries with historical divisions, like East and West Germany (after WW2), or North and South Vietnam, they were divided, but later reunified within 20-40 years. As such, new generation of people consider themselves fully German, or fully Vietnamese respectively, which is good for the people. If you look at countries that are still separated, like North and South Korea, the people are only going to drift further and further apart. Korea was once one whole country but after 70+ years of division, the new generations of people start seeing themselves as separate peoples, which is tragic. The same thing is happening in China and Taiwan. The separation will only harm future generations of Chinese.
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  37. Nick Sanfilippo I agree with most of your points regarding Taiwan's history, but I would also like to point out that the Dutch also only controlled a small portion of Taiwan like the Chinese and Qing dynasty China was perhaps, the first to formally incorporate Taiwan as a prefecture of China. Taiwan's first inhabitants were indeed the aboriginals, but I would say Chinese culture greatly influenced them throughout the course of history. Japanese, Dutch and other countries also influenced their lives undeniably, but perhaps to a lesser degree. Singapore and Malaysia were never a part of Qing dynasty China, so the Chinese government does not claim what rightfully does not belong to China. PRC may not have contributed to Taiwan's nation building at all, but I could also say North and South Koreas were built by different Korean government, but in the end, they were still two halves of once unified Korea. Its the same with PRC and ROC, they were built by different governments but were once part of Qing dynasty China. You are correct in that the communists and KMT had little foreign intervention during Chinese civil war, except at the last crucial part, when the government was poised to reclaim Taiwan but were prevented from doing so by the sudden presence of US aircraft carriers. President Truman had ordered the US Navy into the straits of Taiwan, effectively preventing the unification of China. You call communists the red scourge, but bear in mind that Chinese people merely wanted the unification of China. I could also say the same for the Viet Cong (North Vietnamese) and North Koreans as well. These people were only fighting to unify a country that shouldn't have been divided in the first place.
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  38. +Sung dae Han Indeed. Other than mainland China, there is Hong Kong and Taiwan. We may not get along but all of us consider ourselves to represent China and we do not allow politics to affect business. China's 5 biggest trading partners are USA ($512 billion) Hong Kong ($401 bil), Japan, S. Korea and Taiwan (198 bil).
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  39. +Sung dae Han China had been fighting the Japanese since 1937, during 2nd Sino-Japanese war, about 5 years prior to the Japanese bombing of Pearl harbor. That means the Western powers (League of Nations) ignored Japanese aggression for 5 years and allowed Japan to claim more and more territory of China, only joining the war in 1942. So the USA wasn't really joining the war to help China, they were doing it because of Pearl Harbor. USA may have fought Japanese for 3 years with Chinese help (1942-1945) but China has been fighting Japanese forces for about 8 years (1937-1945) with 5 years without Allied help and 3 years with Allied force. Western media is only proud to portray themselves as saviors when China has been slowly weakening Japanese forces for years before they joined the war.
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  40. Mewmewmew:3 China is part of UN but maintains bilateral relations with N. Korea separately. China needs fuel and N. Korea is a supplier. China has no control over N . Korea nuclear program. China is against the companies supplying N. Korea with nukes. China sends defectors back as a sign of goodwill to N. Korea. Like I stated, China is working with S. Korea to a peaceful reunification of Korea.
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  41. +Mewmewmew:3 China knows of this and is against the nuclearization of N.Korea. Chinese authorities are currently investigating into the matter. -Chinese embassy spokeswoman Fang Hong said Hongxiang Industrial Development Co was being investigated for "illegal behavior" and "economic crimes." -She said China had a "clear and consistent" position of opposing North Korea's development of nuclear weapons. -While China is North Korea's sole major ally, it disapproves of its nuclear and missile programs and was angered by its latest nuclear test. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-nuclear-usa-idUSKCN11W1SL I specifically mentioned in my second post that China is against the companies supplying N. Korea with nukes.
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  42. China has proud modern history of leaders with foresight, beginning with Dr Sun Yatsen, who overthrew the Manchu Rulers and established Republic of China, to Mao Zedong, who managed unify whole of China (which ROC failed to do) and establish People's Republic of China, to Deng Xiaoping who introduce economic reforms to China, after Mao's policies failed to take off. All of those leaders had some vision of China that they wished to create, and used whatever means necessary to achieve successes of their own. They were all true patriots of China without a doubt, and China would not be where it is today, if not for their efforts.
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  43. Nobody said the path to success is going to be easy. In the past, who could have predicted whether communism or capitalism was going to be successful? We know now in the future, but back then, who could have predict the future? Hindsight is fifty-fifty remember? Modern China was built by the sweat, blood, tears and sacrifice of Chinese people, through various wars, invasions, famines, rebellions and revolutions. There were many mistakes, failures and trial-and-errors, but China eventually emerged from a poor, starving, war-torn country, into an economic juggernaut, with strong military and potential rival to USA. Not many "other countries" could claim to have achieved what China did in only 30 years.
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