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神州 Shenzhou
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Comments by "神州 Shenzhou" (@Shenzhou.) on "WION Gravitas: India-China reunite ties after Modi-Xi summit; India sends sacred relics to Sri Lanka" video.
China is always keen on establishing good diplomatic relations with India. Back when, Chinese Premier Zhou Enlai visited New Delhi, he proposed the Five Principles of Peaceful Coexistence 和平共处五项原则 to help define China-India relationship, and we are still abiding by those principles even till today.
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As the two most populous countries in the world, statistically speaking, our countries should have the most brainpower, to make plans, generate ideas and research technology, as well as the most manpower, to implement said plans and turn ideas into reality. Why then should our countries be boggled down by petty territorial disputes, preventing our countries from cooperating with each other?
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You want India to fight a conventional war in Tibetan region? China can always deploy our very own domestically made combat UAVs like CaiHong-4 and Caihong-5 for both surveillance and combat operations and have often been compared with US Reaper drone. While Indian troops are struggling on difficult mountainous terrain, the PLA's combat drones are capable of firing air-to-ground missiles from altitude of 5,000 meters, therefore staying outside of effective range of most anti-aircraft guns.
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0x0cd0 India can continue to be a graveyard if it wants to have conventional war. It will be India's own troops dying in the mountainous Tibet region, while China's combat UAVs do not result in the pilots death even if destroyed. More combat drones can always be manufactured too, to replace losses. China also has intermediate range ballistic missiles like DF-26 with a range of 3,000 to 4,000 km, that can literally fly over the Himalayas, so why India wants to fight in conventional warfare? Those missiles can engage enemies at safer distance far away from the battlefront.
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0x0cd0 Wars are won because smart people can kill other people without themselves dying. It's India's choice if they want to sacrifice their troops to Chinese combat UAVs and DF missiles launched from thousands of kilometres away. Even if our drones and missiles are somehow shot down from the skies, they don't result in loss of our soldiers lives. But if they succeeded in killing Indian troops, then that's less people for the PLA ground forces to deal with eventually.
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+Nagalakshmi Saladi US President Donald Trump just unilaterally slap tariff on steel and aluminum imports, without even going through the proper WTO channels. USA has excluded some countries from the tariffs, but India is not one of those lucky countries. Even Japan was not excluded from the tariffs.
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My point was that India is also on the steel and aluminum tariff list set by US president Trump so why are you talking about China? Why suddenly talk about South China Sea claims? China first claimed the SCS islands back in 1947 (2 years after WW2) when Republic of China drew the 11 dash line, and that was long before China became powerful like we are today. As for Doklam, China did not raise any issue initially, it was Indian troops that choose to obstruct PLA road construction, even when India does not claim Doklam as part of its own territory. As for whether it failed, PLA troops are still patrolling the region, whereas Indian MEA already reported that India's withdrawal from Doklam is almost complete. As for CPEC, why you claim it has failed? CPEC is still ongoing so how can you just declare it a failure? Can Indian troops actually do anything to stop PLA road construction in Kashmir? And when USA raised tariffs, it also meant India is affected by the steel and aluminum tariffs so how is it a good thing for India? Trump's tariff could be one of the reason why Modi decide to promote better economic relations with China here.
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How did you even get a 80 : 20 ratio in the first place? If other countries are given such an unfair ratio, then why they continue doing business with China then? Can you tell how you get this figure? Otherwise aren't you just being biased against China here? Also, what has SCS and Doklam even got to do with China's economic trade with other countries? India does not claim SCS or Doklam as part of its territory, so what has it got to do with India then?
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0x0cd0 You make decisions based on what Indians consider right or wrong? What sort of supremacist logic is that? SCS dispute is between China and South East Asian countries to resolve ourselves, and Doklam is between China and Bhutan to resolve ourselves, so why do Indians butt into this disputes? Because of their own supremacist sense of what's right and wrong? Who are you to decide what's right and wrong according to India?
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According to the following source from The Diplomat, there are 66 countries that supported China's stance (marked in RED ) in South China Sea dispute, compared to only about 5-8 countries that supported Philippines stance (marked in BLUE ) So who is ignoring the world opinion here? Source:Map of who supports China in SCS and why thediplomat.com/2016/07/who-supports-china-in-the-south-china-sea-and-why/
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0x0cd0 What world tribunal? That was the Permanent Court of Arbitration, which not even an official UN agency, like International Court of Justice, so China reserves the right not to follow its jurisdiction.
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0x0cd0 What sort of "good" advice have you given at all? All you claim is that China is always wrong and that whatever India does is always right, and you don't even provide evidence of your own, just dismissing my claims that 66 countries supported China's stance over Philippines' in that map (including India) Even now, China welcomes India to come on board the Belt and Road Initiative to share the mutual progress and prosperity, but even if New Delhi declines this offer, in the end, Beijing will still respect its decision.
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