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@aribethdetylmarande8228 The Chinese Communist Party is not perfect (then again, which government body is?) but despite its initial setbacks, under its leadership, China's population doubled, our lifespans doubled, our literacy rates doubled and our poverty rates fell. China was once a dirt-poor, war-torn, starving country like India in the past, but today, China is world's 2nd largest economy, the manufacturing hub of the world, protected by world's largest land army, the People's Liberation Army, and funded by world's 2nd largest military budget. All while under the CCP leadership. Life Expectancy at Birth in China, Europe, USA and India china-profile.com/data/fig_WPP2010_L0_Boths.htm
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@aribethdetylmarande8228 said "Since China had never been ruled by other party, how do you know that China cannot gain similar economic achievement under leadership of a different government?" Prior to CCP coming to power, the mainland was known as Republic of China from 1912-1949 under Kuomintang administration. During this chaotic period, China lost control of Tibet, and was divided into various provinces, ruled by individual warlords all jostling for power, and even the Japanese invaded China during this turbulent period of China's history. In the end, the KMT failed to unify China and had to flee the mainland to Formosa (Taiwan). Whereas Mao Zedong succeed in unifying China under communism (where the previous KMT administration failed even after 37 years!) and he proclaimed the People's Republic of China in 1949, and Tibet was returned to Chinese control in 1951. So why can't I give credit to the CCP for what they done for China?
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That bombing of Cathedral in southern Philippines by Islamic radicals. I heard the Muslims are also voting in a referendum on the proposed creation of an autonomous region in Philippines. Why Philippines allow Muslims to divide their country and create new region? Because of Islamic terrorists?
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Being World Police is a tiring, taxing and thankless position to be in.
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@aribethdetylmarande8228 said "What I stated is that if the government (not necessary to be CCP, can be any party) made a decision to adjust China economic system into Capitalism, China will grow and develop." That's not what you said, you said "Since China had never been ruled by other party, how do you know that China cannot gain similar economic achievement under leadership of a different government?" as I quoted previously. Yet you are accusing me of twisting concepts? When did you ever mentioned capitalism at all? You had proclaimed that China had never been ruled by other party that's all. Also, during the KMT administration of China, Republic of China was capitalist too but after the fall of the Qing Dynasty in 1912, China underwent a period of instability and disrupted economic activity. The KMT seized control of private banks in 1936 and replaced the China's currency by stamping out the earlier silver and gold-backed notes that had made up China's currency previously. However, this led to hyperinflation, as the KMT began printing notes en masse. Initially, a total of 1.4 billion Chinese yuan was issued in 1936, but by the end of the 2nd Sino-Japanese war some 1.031 trillion in notes was issued) So how did China experience growth and development under KMT? And you know why the USA abandoned KMT during the Chinese Civil War? Because KMT was corrupt, and pocketed some 750 million dollars worth of US military aid, until even the US president Harry Truman wrote that "the Chiangs, the Kungs and the Soongs (were) all thieves."
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@शिव-ठ6प Why don't you Indians settle your border dispute with Nepal first instead of starting another with China?
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GFHK SDGM Tibet was part of China since 800 years ago when the Mongols conquered Kingdom of Thibet and Song Dynasty China and incorporated those territory into Yuan Dynasty China. Tibet broke free of China in 1913 but was eventually reunified with the mainland by 1951 and even Indian PM Nehru acknowledged Chinese sovereignty over Tibet so what makes you think the problem would not have existed?
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@complexnucleus1087 India invaded and annexed Sikkim, Jammu & Kashmir, Goa and even recently, India had border dispute with Nepal, resulting in Nepalese police open fired and killed 1 Indian near Bihar.
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@dhdy1213 Tibet was part of China since 800 years ago, when the Mongolians conquered Kingdom of Thibet and Song Dynasty China, and incorporated them into Yuan Dynasty China. The Manchurians did the same thing centuries later during Qing Dynasty.
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@Progressive Republican During 19th century, British wanted to continue drinking Chinese tea, but China did not want what the West had to offer, so Britain waged two bloody wars with China, and forced China to buy opium from them at gunpoint, which we didn't want because it made us sick and was poisoning our people. Port cities like Shanghai were forced open to act as drug distribution hubs to spread the addiction throughout rest of China, and Hong Kong was taken from China and made into British colony. Even when Britain renounced its ownership over its former colonies, Hong Kong was not fully returned to China
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Shivankar Pandey You Indians have so called "free" media but it only stirs up nationalism among Indians then how does that solve the problem? Narendra Modi is under more and more pressure to do something to appease Indians so how is that good for India, you tell me? You think free media is somehow better?
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@K1999-2 Why don't you Indians resolve your border dispute with Nepal instead of starting another with China? Video: India-Nepal Border Dispute| ‘Won’t Accept Artificial Enlargement of Territorial Claims': MEA youtu.be/9VmxZOn8Y7o
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Mao Zedong managed to unify China (which the previous Kuomintang administration of China from 1911-1949, failed to achieve even after 37 years) in 1949 and proclaimed the People's Republic of China. He turned the Chinese Communist Party with a mere strength of 50 members at the beginning of 1921, to one of the world's largest political party today, with more than 80 million members (about the population size of Germany)
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I do know that Hong Kong did NOT experience democracy under British colonial rule rule. No elections by Hong Kong were ever held, while it was British colony. Only after the Hong Kong handover to mainland China, were the first elections by Hong Kong ever held. So why people of Hong Kong still complain when they finally get to vote for their favorite leader in elections? Were any elections in Hong Kong ever held, prior to the handover to China?
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China once tried 'democracy' when Dr Sun Yatsen overthrew Qing dynasty and established Republic of China in 1911. But China was divided into many provinces ruled by individual warlords, we lost control of Tibet, and the Japanese even invaded. In the end, Dr. Sun died without ever realizing a unified China under democracy. Next China tried 'communism' and Mao Zedong managed to unify China and proclaim People's Republic of China in 1949 (which the previous Kuomintang failed to achieve for 37 years!) and Tibet became part of China again. But while Mao Zedong was excellent tactician, he was poor governor and his policies for China were disastrous. This led to Mao making self-criticism and stepping down as state chairman. So China tried 'capitalism' when Deng Xiaoping opened China up and reformed economic policies in 1970s, and China progressed rapidly. But university students began protesting for more democratic reforms and Deng didn't want that so he sent the People's Liberation Army to stop the protests in 1989. Deng Xiaoping refused to admit his mistake even till his death. Now, China is following 'socialism with Chinese characteristics' under President Xi Jinping and its still too early to tell whether we will be successful. But it shows that China has tried various political systems to various degrees of success, and each Chinese leader had some vision of China that he wished to achieve. They all contributed to China in some way or another, so China is not suffering from 'political stagnation' that the West seems to be suffering from.
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Malaysia does more business with China than India.
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@yodesuyo China and India are fighting desertification, even NASA satellite images have shown that the Earth is greener today thanks to the efforts of Chinese and Indians.
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@Srikar-on9ib ‪Look at what India did‬ ‪1947 annex Kashmir ‬ ‪1949 annex Manipur ‬ ‪1949 annex Tripura ‬ ‪1951 hitting south Tibet ‬ ‪1954 annex Nagaland ‬ ‪1961 annex Goa‬ ‪1962 annex karapani of Nepal‬ ‪1962 attack China‬ ‪1971 annex Turtuk of Pakistan ‬ ‪1972 annex Tin Bigha of Bangladesh‬ 1975 attack and annex Sikkim 1983 attack Mauritius ‬ ‪1987 invade Sri Lanka ‬ ‪1990 attack Bhutan ‬ ‪2006 annex Dooars of Bhutan ‬ ‪2013 annex Moreh of Burma ‬ ‪2017 attack China ‬ ‪2017 attack Bhutan ‬ ‪2018 invade Maldives‬ ‪2020 attacking one Chinese soilder with plenty of soilders first‬ ‪2020 break the border deal that made by China and India and said they killed 5 Chinese soilder
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In the past, Hong Kong was a unique Chinese port city, a world finance center closest to mainland China, but today, Hong Kong has since fallen behind and been overtaken by rising mainland cities in the area like Shanghai, Shenzhen, Guangzhou, Ningbo-Zhoushan, and is facing similar levels of competition from mainland cities like Qingdao, Tianjin, Xiamen, Dalian, and so on. Sources: List of busiest container ports wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_busiest_container_ports List of busiest ports by cargo tonnage wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_busiest_ports_by_cargo_tonnage Shanghai in particular, has become global financial centre and transport hub, so its no wonder why some Hong Kong people feel that Hong Kong is losing its "uniqueness" as it has fallen behind other rising mainland cities.
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@basshunterdota625 China today is currently at peace and not at war with any country, since our last major conflict in 1979. Instead of making war, China is building infrastructure like roads, railways, highways, bridges, tunnels, powerstations, dams, ports, airports, etc and investing in developing countries like Sri Lanka, Nepal, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, and also African countries like Nigeria, Kenya, Chad, Sudan, Ghana, Mozambique, Tanzania, etc. Whereas the United States is warmonger being involved in Gulf War, Iraq War, Afghan War, Libyan War, Syrian War, Yemen War, etc, even in the 21st century. USA is bombing in those Middle Eastern countries and enacting regime change by cutting off their "heads" (Saddam Hussein, Muammar Gaddafi, etc) and then installing their own US puppet governments in place.
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@nobody-wd9ge Why don't you Indians resolve your border dispute with Nepal instead of starting another with China? Video: India-Nepal Border Dispute| ‘Won’t Accept Artificial Enlargement of Territorial Claims': MEA youtu.be/9VmxZOn8Y7o
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@peabase Can I ask which personal freedoms has Beijing imposed upon Hong Kong people then? Hong Kong has laws that would be considered illegal in the mainland (such as supporting Falun Dafa) so how exactly are their freedoms being affected then? So when mainland cities like Shanghai overtakes Hong Kong as global financial center, then what's Hong Kong going to do? Source: List of largest banks wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_banks
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@mfmf100 Many Hong Kong graduates also seek job opportunities in the mainland, and some pick up Mandarin in order to do business with the mainland. Mandarin Chinese is also the most spoken language in the world (by number of speakers) and is also the official language of Singapore and Taiwan too, so generally there is greater incentive to learn Mandarin over Cantonese. And you specifically said "traditions" so why can't I mention that Hong Kong people practice Chinese traditions too? And if Hong Kong have all those institutions, then why are they so resentful of mainland China? China is the only country in the world willing to tolerate multiple political systems within our nation, under the One Country, Two Systems Policy. No other country in the world is willing to have two different political systems existing within its borders.
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Those Umbrella protestors were mostly idealistic university undergrads, who've been raised in cloistered world of education, of textbook ideals and perfect political theories. They haven't even stepped out into the real working world, get a job, apply for housing, get married and settle down, yet these naive students somehow think they already know how to govern Hong Kong already? Look at the rest of the working adults of Hong Kong, sending the kids to school and going to work as per normal. They weren't protesting because they know Hong Kong's situation better than these idealistic undergrads.
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@fadzilhashim.0910 You Malaysians love Chinese products 🇨🇳 like smartphones such as Huawei, Xiaomi, Oppo, Vivo, Lenovo, ZTE, OnePlus, Tecno yet what has India 🇮🇳 done for Malaysia 🇲🇾?
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The Umbrella Protests were by naive Hong Kong university undergrads, who've been cloistered inside a world of education, of textbook ideals and perfect theories regarding democracy. These protestors haven't even step out into the real working world of adults, get a job, get an apartment, settle down and raise kids, yet these idealistic students already think they know how to govern Hong Kong?
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@Bruno Pereira About Democracy, why do you believe that allowing ordinary people to participate in political decision making is a wise idea? Ordinary people are fickle and they make poor voters for several reasons: -Ordinary people may not vote responsibly (i.e. They may not turn up to vote, or they submit blank votes) -Ordinary people may base their vote on emotions, not logic (i.e. Many British don't like immigrants, so majority voted for Brexit) -Ordinary people are susceptible to foreign influences (i.e. Russian interference in US elections) -Ordinary people may simply lack awareness of the country's real political situation, to make informed decisions regarding the country's future. There's a host of other problems associated with democracy, so why not let those who know how to govern, govern? That's what China is doing and look at how successful China is.
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Ajay Singh Even Indian PM Nehru had acknowledged that Tibet is part of China, why should China give up Tibet when even India recognised Tibet as part of China? You Indians complain about Pakistan Occupied Kashmir all the time, why not wrest control of Kashmir from Pakistan then?
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@mfmf100 Cantonese is also spoken in mainland like in Guangdong province too. And how exactly are Hong Kong culture and traditions different from the mainland? They celebrate Spring Festival (Chinese New Year) Dragonboat Festival, Lantern Festival and other Chinese festivals too isn't it?
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Peng Shuai is trying to keep a low profile after her previous affair with a much older man has been exposed, and she's expressed a desire for personal privacy in a videocall with IOC. But the WTA would have none of that, and they are demanding that she appear in public to bare her private life for all the world to see, instead of respecting her wish for privacy
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@Karan dhabalia Is there something wrong with me being Chinese?
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@basshunterdota625 The new Malaysian PM Myhyiddin haven't have any opportunities to speak publicly about China-Malaysia relations, because of the pandemic. But I'm sure he will reiterate China-Malaysia relations in a similar fashion as Dr Mahathir.
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@卡尔弗里德希里楼主是马来西亚人，支持印度而不是中国。
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@dajaca2586 said: "democracy is declining around the world." So why is democracy declining around the world then? Why allow ordinary people to participate in voting? Ordinary people may not vote responsibly (they don't turn up to vote, or they submit blank votes) they may make decisions based on emotions ("I don't like immigrants so I vote for Britain to leave EU") instead of logic. Or they may simply lack enough political awareness to make informed decisions regarding the country's future. That's how Donald Trump (with zero political experience himself) was able to seduce votes from gullible Americans with false promises of making America great again. At least in mainland China's example, if people want to vote, they join the communist party (not easy feat, you'll need to be top 5% of your field or industry) and work their way up to President, while garnering votes from other politically savvy communist members. Its not perfect system and not easy, but it has produced great leaders like President Xi, who has 30-40 years of political experience.
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@aerojetrocketdyners-2538 China has air pollution problems yes, because of our over-reliance on coal power, which burns dirtily and produce smog, so the government built world's largest hydroelectric powerstation, the Three Gorges Dam to supply China with clean renewable energy to help reduce our CO2 emissions. Video: The Largest Dam in The World youtu.be/b8cCsUBYSkw This makes China the world's largest producer of hydroelectricity, some 856.4 billion kilowatt hours a year – more than double the amount produced by Brazil, in second place. The top three is completed by Canada, which produces 376.7 billion kilowatt hours a year. Source: China produces the most electricity from hydroelectric power weforum.org/agenda/2015/10/which-countries-produce-the-most-hydroelectric-power/
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Why don't the Indians settle their border dispute with Nepal instead of starting another with China? Video: 1 Indian killed, 4 injured after Nepal police fired near border area with Bihar youtu.be/SFW4-ViJ0_o
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Peng Shuai is trying to keep a low profile after her previous affair with a much older man has been exposed, and she's expressed a desire for personal privacy in a videocall with IOC. But the WTA would have none of that, and they are demanding that she appear in public to bare her private life for all the world to see, instead of respecting her wish for privacy.
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@williamplayfair364 I read Peng Shuai's post (full translation available on Reddit) and while Peng Shuai was emotional and had a tumultuous, on-and-off relationship with a much older man, spanning several years in fact, there are no allegations of sexual assault in her post. She even wrote in her post that the sex was consensual. Peng Shuai wrote: Taking into consideration the affection I had for you seven years ago, I agreed... yes, we had sex. Romantic attraction is such a complicated thing that explain it clearly. From that day on, I renewed my love for you. Throughout my time with you after that, purely based on our interactions, you were a very good person, and you treated me well. So according to Peng Shuai's post, she consented to sex so it turns out that the allegations of sexual assault made by WTA are not true after all.
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Jancy Varghese So why India can claim Goa, Sikkim, Jammu & Kashmir, etc then why can't China reclaim Tibet, Xinjiang, Hong Kong, etc? Those were part of China's territory so why you apply double standards here?
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@rajeshnayak9199 Look at India claim Sikkim, Jammu & Kashmir, Tripura, Manipur, Goa, etc then why can't China reclaim Tibet, Xinjiang, Hong Kong? Why the biased double standards against China? Look at Indians complaining about their so-called "Pakistan Occupied Kashmir" there was even a recent border dispute between India and Nepal in which Nepalese police open fired and killed 1 Indian near Bihar.
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@bhattaneel Tibet was part of China since 800 years ago when the Mongols conquered Kingdom of Thibet and Song Dynasty China and incorporated those territory into Yuan Dynasty China. And who says that Tibet demography has changed until Tibetans are outnumbered? Ethnic population of Tibet -90% Tibetan -8% Han -0.3% Monpa -0.3% Hui -0.2% others So how are Tibetans outnumbered in Tibet?
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Jancy Varghese India claimed Sikkim, Jammu & Kashmir, Goa, Tripura, Manipur, etc then why can't China claim Tibet, Xinjiang, Hong Kong etc? Why the biased double standards against China? The Tibetans themselves signed the Seventeen Point Agreement for the Peaceful Liberation of Tibet (中央人民政府和西藏地方政府关于和平解放西藏办法的协议) for short on 1952, so it was the Tibetans who affirmed Chinese sovereignty over Tibet.
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@satishramteke7955 Why should Chinese government have to go? The Communist Party of China has done an excellent job governing China so why should Chinese people overthrow our government and establish democracy? Because you say so?
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Atma 01 How is China provoking Nepal against India? India is the one with border problems against Nepal, against Pakistan (their so-called "Pakistan Occupied Kashmir") and even border dispute with China, so who's the provocateur here? And what "Tibetan President" are you talking about? Which Tibetans voted for this "President" you tell me? And which country recognise this so-called "Tibetan President"? You're claiming that I'm bias when you clearly said "little Nepal" instead of "little dispute" so why didn't you specify which you were referring to?
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@PasscodeAdvance The Republic of China (Taiwan) claims more territory than People's Republic of China. Not only do they claim all of mainland China (including Tibet, Xinjiang, Inner Mongolia, Manchuria, etc) but also territory currently under the control of Mongolia, Burma, Bhutan, India, Japan, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Russia and Tajikistan. Source: Map of ROC Administration and Claims wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ROC_Administrative_and_Claims.svg
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@Srikar-on9ib Firstly, China does not claim all of Arunachal Pradesh, only a small part of the region known as Tawang, which is historically part of Tibet that's all. Chinese diplomat even offered a deal to India and make concessions in Aksai Chin if India cedes part of Tawang in Arunachal Pradesh. Source: China ready to make concessions in Aksai Chin if India cedes part of Tawang in Arunachal Pradesh? zeenews.india.com/india/china-ready-to-make-concessions-in-aksai-chin-if-india-cedes-part-of-tawang-in-arunachal-pradesh_1982943.html But India just rejected China's offer and gave no counter proposal of their own to solve the territorial dispute. Since you clearly said (and I quote): "神州 Shenzhou I for one recognise China's claim over Tibet, does that mean that you recognise China's claim over Tawang of Arunachal Pradesh, since it's historically part of Tibet?
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@whtkngofc "神州 Shenzhou reunified? You mean stolen right"? Tibet was part of China since 800 years ago when the Mongols conquered Kingdom of Thibet and Song Dynasty China and incorporated those territory into Yuan Dynasty China. Read the history. So why should China give up our ancestral lands of Tibet when it's an inalienable part of Chinese history? Look, even the Tibetans themselves signed the Seventeen Point Agreement for the Peaceful Liberation of Tibet (中央人民政府和西藏地方政府关于和平解放西藏办法的协议) for short on 1952, affirming Chinese sovereignty over Tibet. So there's a document signed by Tibetans that Tibet is part of China after all.
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@Srikar-on9ib Even Indian PM Narendra Nehru had said that "China did not enter Indian territory" so how did China cross the LAC into Indian territory? You're just anti-China that's all and biased against China.
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Atma 01 Look at what India did to its borders: ‪1947 annex Kashmir ‬ ‪1949 annex Manipur ‬ ‪1949 annex Tripura ‬ ‪1951 hitting south Tibet ‬ ‪1954 annex Nagaland ‬ ‪1961 annex Goa‬ ‪1962 annex karapani of Nepal‬ ‪1962 attack China‬ ‪1971 annex Turtuk of Pakistan ‬ ‪1972 annex Tin Bigha of Bangladesh‬ 1975 attack and annex Sikkim 1983 attack Mauritius ‬ ‪1987 invade Sri Lanka ‬ ‪1990 attack Bhutan ‬ ‪2006 annex Dooars of Bhutan ‬ ‪2013 annex Moreh of Burma ‬ ‪2017 attack China ‬ ‪2017 attack Bhutan ‬ ‪2018 invade Maldives‬ ‪2020 attacking one Chinese soilder with plenty of soilders first‬ ‪2020 break the border deal that made by China and India and said they killed 5 Chinese soilder Yet you claim China push Nepal into dispute with India? Where's your proof? You just trying to blame China for the border dispute between India and Nepal when its up to your countries to solve your border dispute? And the 14th Dalai Lama is certainly not elected by anyone, so what "Tibetan President" are you talking about? When was 14th Dalai Lama's election (if any?) What was the poll results? Then how is the 14th Dalai Lama a "Tibetan President" when he wasn't even elected? And the Tibetan Government in Exile isn't even formally recognised by any other country, what are you even talking about? The Central Tibetan Administration is not recognised as a sovereign government by any country and they receive their funding from the CIA so isn't this an attempt by USA to interfere in China's sovereignty over Tibet? The CTA is not recognised as a sovereign government by any country, but it receives financial aid from governments and international organisations for its welfare work among the Tibetan exile community in India. In October 1998 the Dalai Lama's administration acknowledged that it received US$1.7 million a year in the 1960s from the US Government through the Central Intelligence Agency, which had also trained a guerrilla force at Camp Hale in Colorado. Source: Wikipedia: Central Tibetan Administration
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@digital945 Why you Indians allow the British to partition British India into two countries on 1947, forming a separate sovereign country, Pakistan? Next you Indians supported Bangladesh independence from East Pakistan, forming another sovereign country and incurring Pakistan suspicion towards India. Each separation only weakens the once strong country and once separated, you can't control those territory and they may grow to become thorn in your side. That's why China fight so hard to hold on to our territory of Tibet, Xinjiang, Hong Kong, etc. Because we don't want to end up like India and Pakistan; Brother states that constantly fight among yourselves, while Britain secretly laughs at the situation in South Asia.
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@Srikar-on9ib "Your country crossed the LAC and set up camps in Indian territory" That's not true, according to Indian PM Narendra Modi, who said: "China did not enter our territory, no posts taken." Why are you deliberately anti-China and spreading falsehoods?
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@asphyxia4135 India's Global Hunger Index is lower than Pakistan and even below North Korea. Source: India falls to 102 in hunger index, 8 ranks below Pakistan timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/india-falls-to-102-in-hunger-index-8-ranks-below-pakistan/articleshow/71606116.cms
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China's strategy has produced many successful Chinese companies like Huawei, Lenovo, Xiaomi, ZTE, Oppo, Haier, DJI, Alibaba, Tencent, Baidu, JD, China Mobile, China Railway Construction, Sinochem, China Construction Bank, Agricultural Bank of China, ICBC, State Grid Corporation, Sinopec Group, China National Petroleum, PetroChina, State Construction Engineering, China Minmetals, Ping An Insurance, Shenhua Energy, Meituan-Dianping, NetEase, and this list is not exhaustive. List of largest Internet companies wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_Internet_companies List of largest banks wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_banks Fortune Global 500 wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortune_Global_500 Forbes Global 2000 wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbes_Global_2000 So if China can continue to churn out successful companies for China, then why is there a need to open up our economy more? Why give advantages to foreign companies wanting a bigger slice of China's market? We should develop our own companies locally to be capable of rivaling that of US companies, so that the profits remain in China instead of going to foreign companies.
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@himanshusingh5214 China is no stranger to innovation. Ancient Chinese invented the Four Great Inventions 四大发明 which have greatly influenced the rest of the world. Paper and Printing made recording and transmission of knowledge much easier. The Compass made navigation much easier and journeys more safer and more reliable. And Gunpowder has changed the way modern wars are fought.
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@himanshusingh5214 The Westerners believe in "free market" system, which is likened to a wild, untamed river, flowing to and fro according to market forces. Would you let the river flow unchecked and cause widespread destruction to your markets? Because that is what happens in a free market, and that's why USA let its market get flooded with cheap Chinese goods, and US companies are allowed to escape to low labour countries like China and Vietnam and set up here. The Chinese government's approach is to "tame the river" by building a "dam" and controlling the river in order to maximise the benefits to China. China has a large market which is why many foreign companies want a slice and our own fledgling Chinese companies would surely perish if exposed directly to global competition from Western companies, so the government "shields" them and provide a home advantage to local companies to allow them to compete with foreign companies. For example, China block Western websites like Facebook, Google, YouTube, etc, and develop our own equivalents, like Weibo, Baidu, YouKu, etc, so as to deny profits to the foreign companies. Once our local companies become strong enough, they can slowly start expanding to foreign markets outside of China. Huawei and Lenovo are two examples of Chinese companies that have expanded to overseas markets. China's approach is apparently very successful, because the above listed Chinese companies are products of China's strategy. Those companies I mentioned would probably not exist today, if not for the government strictly limiting foreign companies in China.
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@himanshusingh5214 Why should China have a free market? Look at what free market system did to USA, flooding their markets with Chinese goods. If China open the floodgates completely, foreign companies will flood and dominate our markets, strangling our local Chinese companies. So why can't we regulate the number of foreign companies entering China?
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@himanshusingh5214 Also this is different from Qing dynasty, where China was completely cut off from the rest of the world. Today, we are not "walling ourselves off completely from the river" instead, we are "building a dam, and only letting a trickle of the river" enter China, in controlled doses that's all.
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@himanshusingh5214 How is what I am saying equivalent to what Qing did? I am not claiming China should close off ourselves completely, I am saying China should regulate our market ourselves in a planned economy in order to maximise the benefits to China. I am clearly describing that China should not adopt a "free market" system, and I clearly stated my reasons for not doing so, such as letting foreign companies flood our markets, and strangling our local companies. I mean, Chinese companies like Huawei, Lenovo, Xiaomi, Alibaba, Tencent, etc, wouldn't exist today, if not for Chinese goverment offering home advantages to local companies to enable them to compete with foreign companies. Why can't we continue on this path then? We should be developing our own local companies to be capable of rivaling that of US companies, so that the profits remain in China instead of going to foreign companies.
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Himanshu Singh You have been repeating the same point again consistently since your first post here. Don't you have any thing to contribute to the discussion at all? How is what I am saying equivalent to what Qing did? I have already made my previous points as clear as possible. The Qing Dynasty lost to British because they lagged behind in military technology. But modern China is not Qing Dynasty and we are working hard to improve our military technology. The People's Liberation Army is the world's largest land army and it to act as a deterrent so that other countries like Britain and Japan think twice before invading China again like they did in the past.
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Himanshu Singh Again, you keep making the same point again, without going into actual detail. How is CCP being similar in thinking to Qing dynasty? Qing dynasty was complacent and neglected military development, that's why China was invaded by technologically superior British and Japan. The CCP learns from the Qing dynasty's mistakes, that's why they channel funds into developing our military and in fact, the PLA is funded by the world's 2nd largest military budget. For example, the PLA Navy has completed 2 aircraft carriers of our own, the Type 001 Liaoning 辽宁 in 2012, and recently in 2017, the Type 001A aircraft carrier, and still have 2 more carriers in production. China also commissioned a new guided missile destroyer, the Type 055 with displacement of 12,000 tons, equipped with 130 mm deck gun, 2x 64-cell Vertical Launch System quad packs, anti-ship cruise missiles, land attack cruise missiles, anti-aircraft missiles, anti-ship missiles, anti-submarine rockets and torpedos, and many more. China's Type 055 Guided Missile Destroyer youtube.com/watch?v=oaVp04Sn3ag&t=143 So how exactly is China not learning from the world?
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@himanshusingh5214 How exactly are you saying your point in different wordings? You never elaborated how CCP is similar to Qing dynasty at all. The Qing dynasty neglected their military that's why Britain and Japan invaded, but how is modern China neglecting our military? For example, China is investing heavily into military drone technology and we unveiled our very own combat UAV, the Caihong 彩虹 (Rainbow) series. The CH-4 has been compared to the US Reaper combat drone and is capable of firing air-to-ground missile from altitude of 5,000 meters allowing it to be able to fire from a position that provides wider viewing area, while staying outside of effective range of most anti-aircraft guns. The newer CH-5 series is even capable of linking and cooperating with CH-3 and CH-4 drones. China unveils its answer to US Reaper drone how does it compare youtube.com/watch?v=Oe7o9grEf-Q So how exactly is what modern China doing like Qing dynasty?
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SS Video: Mahathir talks about China and Malaysian politics youtu.be/yjl7d0Ongn4
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@J Doe What makes you think Chinese people are cloistered? Chinese people are free to travel overseas for work, study or play. I mean, every country in the world has heard of Chinese tourists, visiting their lands and stimulating their economies. Your Western schools and universities are positively flooded with international exchange students from China, studying the same topics as their peers. Chinese business and firms are growing more powerful (Huawei, Lenovo, Xiaomi, Oppo, ZTE, etc) and Chinese investors are buying up property and real estate in other countries. So why you think Chinese people are cloistered then? We make up 20% of the world's population after all.
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@J Doe More than any country, China has the world's most outbound tourists, which is why more and more countries are catering to Chinese tourists, offering tours in Mandarin, etc, to cash in on Chinese tourists. Even in education, your Western schools and universities are flooded with Chinese students, and many Chinese students compete with your local students for university spots, in examinations and also for jobs when they graduate. Source: China has world's most outbound tourists nationmultimedia.com/detail/travel/30355861 So what makes you think Chinese people are oppressed like you claim? Even in the Internet, Chinese language is the 2nd most common language in the Internet, only behind English at number one, so why you claim that Chinese people can't discuss things on the Internet? There are so many Chinese websites and forums where Chinese discuss issues so why you claim Chinese can't discuss issues on the Internet? Source: Top Ten Internet Languages (Chinese is 2nd) internetworldstats.com/stats7.htm Seriously, have you even stepped out onto the street (wherever you live) and grab a Chinese person in your area and talked to them? Why you think Chinese people are oppressed then?
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@J Doe So your business partner friend cried when President Xi became as powerful as Mao. But he is just one person and that was his/her view that's all. And how would you know many in China feel the same? Have you been to China yourself and ask many Chinese yourself? Then how would you know?
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@ForOdinAndAsgard "@神州 Shenzhou Historically only the Dutch were allowed to trade opium with China, get your facts together." Where did you obtain your facts? Wasn't Franklin D. Roosevelt's grandfather was an opium seller too?
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@aribethdetylmarande8228 So to sum it up, since China has experienced massive development, alleviation of poverty, transforming a once dirt-poor, war-torn, starving country in past, into world's 2nd largest economy, the world's factory (Made in China) having world's 2nd highest R&D spending, protected by world's largest land army, the People's Liberation Army, funded by world's 2nd highest military expenditure, then why not allow the Communist Party of China to continue governing our country? China's political system has shown to be viable for our country and extremely successful to boot, so why abandon our political system and adopt democracy? Not all countries have to adopt Western democracy to be successful and China is living proof of this.
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WINNIE THE FLU China has beaten the US in the battle for world opinion over the handling of coronavirus, according to new polling, with only three countries out of 53 believing the US has dealt with the pandemic better than its superpower rival. Source: Only three out of 53 countries say US has handled coronavirus better than China theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/15/only-three-out-of-53-countries-say-us-has-handled-coronavirus-better-than-china The 53-country survey of 120,000 people by the German polling firm Dalia Research and the Alliance of Democracies Foundation, an organisation headed by the former Nato secretary general Anders Fogh Rasmussen, reveals deep dissatisfaction with US leadership.
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@C B What makes you think nobody in the world is interested in China anymore? According to World Tourism Rankings, China is the 4th most visited country in the world, after France, Spain and the United States, seeing some 62.9 million international tourists in 2018. Source: World Tourism Rankings wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Tourism_rankings#Most_visited_destinations_by_international_tourist_arrivals China is also the most popular tourist destination in Asia, surpassing even other Asian destinations like Japan, Korea, India, Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, etc.
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@powerfulstrong5673 The Kuomintang received plenty of U.S military aid, but corruption was rampant within the KMT and they pocketed some $750,000,000 worth of U.S military aid, until even the then US President Harry Truman made a remark about KMT corruption and wrote that "the Chiangs, the Kungs and the Soongs (were) all thieves." Source: "President Truman wrote that "the Chiangs, the Kungs and the Soongs (were) all thieves" having stolen some $750 million dollars of US funds" voltairenet.org/article177063.html
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Atma 01 "神州 Shenzhou the entirety of the little Nepal dispute is aided by China," Can't China aid our neighbouring country Nepal? And why do you belittle Nepal as "little Nepal" just because your country is larger?
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@Srikar-on9ib "神州 Shenzhou Those are traditionally Indian territories, and look who's talking, China annexed Tibet and Aksai Chin," So why India can claim those traditional Indian territories, then why can't China claim our traditional territory of Tibet and Aksai Chin? Tibet is part of China since 800 years ago when the Mongols conquered Kingdom of Thibet and Song Dynasty China and incorporated those territory into Yuan Dynasty China, and Aksai Chin is a Turkish word where Aksai means "white brook" and Chin refers to China. Can't you see your biased double standards when you support India traditional claim but not China's?
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Section B Shuffled 2K-15 These Indians support India's claims over traditional territory like Goa, Tripura, Manipur, Sikkim, Jammu & Kashmir, but they don't recognise China's traditional claims over Tibet, Xinjiang, Hong Kong, etc, because they harbour biased against China and apply double standards between India historical claims and China's historical claim. And they themselves are oblivious to it.
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China has beaten the US in the battle for world opinion over the handling of coronavirus, according to new polling, with only three countries out of 53 believing the US has dealt with the pandemic better than its superpower rival. Source: Only three out of 53 countries say US has handled coronavirus better than China theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/15/only-three-out-of-53-countries-say-us-has-handled-coronavirus-better-than-china The 53-country survey of 120,000 people by the German polling firm Dalia Research and the Alliance of Democracies Foundation, an organisation headed by the former Nato secretary general Anders Fogh Rasmussen, reveals deep dissatisfaction with US leadership.
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@mfmf100 Which part of the "One country, Two systems” policy is the mainland not following? The Hong Kong people can enjoy democracy by electing their own leaders (Hong Kong's Chief Executive was voted in after receiving 777 votes from the 1,194-member Election Committee.) And all the mainland does is approve the candidate that's all. The mainland does not get to choose which candidate gets elected. So what's the problem here?
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@J Doe In the past, the port city of Hong Kong was once more advanced than the mainland cities. But today, Hong Kong has faltered behind mainland port cities like Shanghai, Shenzhen, Ningbo, Zhoushan, etc. Hong Kong is also facing increasing competition from rising mainland cities like Qingdao, Tianjin, Dalian, Xiamen, etc. So what makes you think CCP government is "brutal, abusive and oppressive" when mainland China is clearly prospering? Source: List of busiest container ports wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_busiest_container_ports List of busiest ports by cargo tonnage wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_busiest_ports_by_cargo_tonnage
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@J Doe "@神州 Shenzhou It's easy to tell how bad a leader is by their supporters." President Xi Jinping is among the most popular leaders in the world, both IN China and OUTSIDE China. According to the following source: Chinese President Xi Jinping had the highest approval rating, both at home and abroad. Xi earned a composite 8.7 rating (out of 10), beating Russian President Vladimir Putin (8.1) for the top spot. Both Putin and Xi had astonishingly high domestic approval ratings, with Xi at 9 out of 10 and Putin at 8.7 The World’s Most Popular Leader: China’s President Xi Source: thediplomat.com/2014/12/the-worlds-most-popular-leader-chinas-president-xi/ I mean, do the people of Hong Kong actually like their leaders at all? What has the Hong Kong Chief Executive even do for the people of Hong Kong? Why nobody knows who the Hong Kong Chief Executive is? But more and more people are knowing about Chinese President Xi Jinping?
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@J Doe What makes you think the mindset of Chinese of 5,000 years ago, would respect Hong Kong or Taiwan independence today? Did you read Chinese history before? The First Emperor of China, Qin Shihuangdi, unified China by conquering the other provinces (bloodily) and proclaiming himself emperor of Qin Dynasty China. And historically, Chinese emperors were always afraid of independent states breaking loose from China, so what makes you think a Chinese of 5000 years ago would simply let those states go? You don't even know Chinese history, yet presume to think Chinese people would let those territory go? You think "democracy" is somehow better? Then why historically, many countries and human societies choose to have political power concentrated in the hands of the few, instead of the many? For example, nobles (aristocracy) priests (theocracy) or kings and emperors (monarchies). Such political systems were commonplace historically, simply because they worked! The elite minority were oftentimes well-educated and politically savvy to make important decisions for the country, instead of the uneducated masses. I mean, why let the ordinary people decide what's best for the country? Why not let the people who know how to lead, lead?
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@J Doe "@神州 Shenzhou - Trump We'll be getting rid of him in 2020." That is exactly the major flaw of your American system. Your US presidents have to step down after their term is over (4-8 years) so they can only make short term plans for America's future at the most, instead of long term plans spanning, say 10 years or more. Whereas the Chinese government has put forth many 5-year plans, 10-year plans, 20-year plans, 30-year plans, etc to map out China's direction and future in 2020, 2030, 2040, 2050, etc, and to set specific goals for China to achieve. Some of these goals include (but are not limited to): -By 2020, China plans to eliminate poverty completely and establish moderately prosperous society. -By 2025, China plans to transform our manufacturing industry to incorporate high-end technology. -By 2030, China plans to be world leader in Artificial Intelligence -By 2035, China plans to be key innovative, scientific power and establish moderately socialist society. -By 2040, China plans to ban all fossil fuel powerplants and all non-electric vehicles for greener future. -By 2045, China plans to be world leading space nation, having established a space elevator. -By 2050, China plans to have surpassed the USA as global superpower, economically and militarily. Source: Xi Plans to Turn China Into a Leading Global Power by 2050 bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-17/xi-to-put-his-stamp-on-chinese-history-at-congress-party-opening By abolishing the presidential term limit, our leaders can remain in power long enough to see their plans for China bloom and come into fruition in the future. But US leaders can't make long term plans for America, because they have to step down when their term is over. Can't you see the big flaw in your system here? Why is China surging on ahead, while America is in decline? How are numerous 4-8 term US presidents going to compete with Chinese leaders of limitless terms?
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@J Doe China has 5000 years of history and is among the world's oldest 'continuous' civilization still alive today, whereas other great ancient civilizations like Mesopotamia, Rome and Egypt have since succumbed to history. And the CCP today is gearing towards ancient Chinese political system (like abolishing term limits for example) President Xi Jinping is like a Chinese emperor, surrounded by his court of ministers and officials, in the form of the Communist Politburo. I mean, China has a wealth of experience, in the form of political literature, governing manuals, military textbooks and whatnot, to help guide our leaders in governing the world's most populous country. And look at Hong Kong and Taiwan, they were traditionally part of Qing Dynasty China, so why can't People's Republic of China claim those territories then? I mean, the United Nations has recognized PRC as "the only legitimate representative of China".
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@mfmf100 About the CCP approving the HK candidate, that is clearly part of the Basic Hong Kong Law and the mainland reserves the right to appoint the HK candidate as per terms of the agreement. According to Hong Kong Basic Law Article 45 (香港基本法第四十五條) : "The Chief Executive of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region shall be selected by election or through consultations held locally and be appointed by the Central People's Government." Source: Hong Kong Basic Law Article 45 wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_Basic_Law_Article_45 So the HK Chief Executive will be appointed by the Central People's Government (CCP) isn't it? Therefore, CCP is not violating the "two systems" policy. Otherwise, which part of Hong Kong law is CCP violating then, you tell me?
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@mfmf100 About lifetime leadership, look at Germany for example and Angela Merkel has been in office since 2005, serving as German Chancellor for over 10 years. Long-term leadership can result in long planning for countries (especially if leaders have the foresight to plan ahead) I mean, since China is doing so well under CCP dictatorship, then why is there a need to change then? Because Westerners say so?
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@mfmf100 Agreed that it is written that "the ultimate aim is the selection of the Chief Executive by universal suffrage upon nomination by a broadly representative nominating committee in accordance with democratic procedures.” But it is also written that the Hong Kong Chief Executive has to be appointed by the Central People's Government, and therefore, CCP reserves the right to appoint HK's Chief Executive. So which part of the "two-systems" policy is CCP violating then, you tell me? How does PRC have "direct, complete" control when no one from mainland China can vote in Hong Kong elections?
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@mfmf100 About lifetime leadership, then what about a country like Singapore? Singapore has been ruled by authoritative single-party government (PAP) for its entire life as a nation! For over 50 years, the PAP governed Singapore with an iron fist, and Lee Kuan Yew was a tyrant who tolerated no political opposition to his rule. But under this benevolent leadership, Singapore grew from a small sleepy fishing village nation, into a prosperous economic country, with living standards surpassing many of its neighboring countries. All this, because the PAP had the foresight to plan long-term and implement long-term changes to Singapore. So why can't China follow our own path to success then? Must China adopt Western democracy, simply because Westerners say so?
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@mfmf100 That's your own problem with "democracy" then. Why have such a system where it is susceptible to outside influence? Wasn't US president Trump elected allegedly by Russian hacking? Why expose your country's own political decisions to foreign influence in the first place? That's all the more reason why China should stick to our own political system (internal election within the CCP) instead of exposing our political system to outside influence. And again, which Hong Kong Law did the CCP supposedly violate you tell me? The CCP is granted the right to appoint each Hong Kong Chief Executive (as pursuant to Hong Kong Basic Law Article 45) so the CCP is not violating any laws of the "two-system" policy isn't it?
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@ScottTangents China has Pakistan and North Korea that we can always depend upon
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Peng Shuai is trying to keep a low profile after her previous affair with a much older man has been exposed, and she's expressed a desire for personal privacy in a videocall with IOC. But the WTA would have none of that, and they are demanding that she appear in public to bare her private life for all the world to see, instead of respecting her wish for privacy.
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@peabase Mainland China will retain control over Hong Kong, so how exactly is China the biggest loser then?
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@desanipt In the past, Hong Kong was a world finance centre and thriving port city closest to mainland China, but today, it has since fallen behind and been overtaken by rising mainland cities like Shanghai, Shenzhen, Guangzhou, Ningbo-Zhoushan, and is facing increasing competition from upcoming mainland port cities like Qingdao, Tianjin, Xiamen, Dalian, and so on. No wonder why the people of Hong Kong fear being left behind. Sources: List of busiest container ports wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_busiest_container_ports List of busiest ports by cargo tonnage wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_busiest_ports_by_cargo_tonnage As you can see, mainland China would be hardly affected economically. If only Hong Kong was fully returned back to China, then Chinese government can help develop Hong Kong to catch up with other rising mainland port cities.
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@williamplayfair364 I read Peng Shuai's post (full translation available on Reddit) and while Peng Shuai was emotional and had a tumultuous, on-and-off relationship with a much older man, spanning several years in fact, there are no allegations of sexual assault in her post. She even wrote in her post that the sex was consensual. Peng Shuai wrote: Taking into consideration the affection I had for you seven years ago, I agreed... yes, we had sex. Romantic attraction is such a complicated thing that explain it clearly. From that day on, I renewed my love for you. Throughout my time with you after that, purely based on our interactions, you were a very good person, and you treated me well. So according to Peng Shuai's post, she consented to sex so it turns out that the allegations of sexual assault made by WTA are not true after all.
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@bobleponge1853 Australia is arguably the hub of anti-China sentiment in the West. Have you actually read Peng Shuai's post (full translation available on Reddit)? There are no allegations of sexual assault in her post, and she even consented to sex. Peng wrote: Taking into consideration the affection I had for you seven years ago, I agreed... yes, we had sex. Romantic attraction is such a complicated thing that explain it clearly. From that day on, I renewed my love for you. Throughout my time with you after that, purely based on our interactions, you were a very good person, and you treated me well. On February 7, 2022, Peng participated in an interview with French sports newspaper LEquipe. Where she said there had been a huge misunderstanding surrounding her accusation of Zhang, her disappearance from the Chinese internet, and her well-being, reiterating "I never said anyone sexually assaulted me". Peng also said the Weibo post resulted in an enormous misunderstanding from the outside world. Her wish is that the meaning of this post no longer be skewed and that she erased it. It's her private life and she has expressed her desire for privacy, but Western media would have none of that and they are demanding that she appear in public to bare her private life for all the world to see.
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@sids2766 The Chinese Communist Party is not perfect (then again, which government body is?) but despite its initial failures and setbacks, under its leadership, China's population doubled, our lifespans doubled, our literacy rates doubled and our poverty rates plummeted. China was once a dirt-poor, war-torn, starving country in the past, but today, China is world's 2nd largest economy, the manufacturing hub of the world, protected by world's largest land army, the People's Liberation Army, funded by world's 2nd largest military budget. Source: Life Expectancy at Birth in China, Europe, USA and India china-profile.com/data/fig_WPP2010_L0_Boths.htm And its all been achieved under single-party authoritarian CCP leadership! So what's wrong with letting the CCP guide our country into the future? China is no longer the weak, easily bullied nation we were once in the past, thanks to the CCP. Otherwise, can you prove me wrong? Why is the mainland surpassing even Hong Kong?
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@1943rfagan Communism did not kill those people, they starved to death because of Great Chinese Famine which was caused by bad weather conditions like flood and drought, causing destruction of crops and resulted in poor harvest and mass starvation. Even Mao Zedong can't possibly control the weather isn't it?
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@Karan dhabalia Who said that YouTube is banned in China? Nobody will come arrest you for logging on to YouTube while in China, which person has been arrested for doing so?
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@Karan dhabalia Why can't you name me which person has been arrested for accessing YouTube while in China? There are so many foreign companies that come to China and set up shop here and many of them require access to Western websites like YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, etc to operate, so the government issue VPN licence to these companies. So which person has been arrested just for logging on to YouTube while in China?
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@fadzilhashim.0910 Indian soldiers were sent by the British government to fight the Japanese in Malaysia, because Malaysia was British colony. And Malaysian love Chinese products like Huawei, Xiaomi, Oppo, Vivo, Lenovo, etc, but where are the famous companies from India?
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