Comments by "神州 Shenzhou" (@Shenzhou.) on "China changes stance on North Korea" video.

Actually, China already planned ahead to punish North Korean missile testing, but held off until the meeting with President Trump. Then during the meeting, President Xi Jinping appeared "convinced" by President Trump and agree to put pressure N.K in return for better trade deals with USA. So now, N. K thinks China is punishing them because of USA, and Trump thinks he managed to convince China of N. K threat and China gets better trade deals with USA. Pretty sweet deal!~😁😁
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+James Monteath When China first joined WTO, intellectual property law was poorly understood, which led to Chinese copying western ideas as the government was focused on catch up to the West. But now, Chinese I.P laws have greatly improved from few years ago, but probably isn't as good as Western I.P laws. I also agree that poor I.P laws also harm Chinese companies as it discourage creativity. Chinese companies recognised this too and are pushing the government to approve stricter I.P laws in China. But, in my opinion China is always going to be biased against any Western technology, until we no longer see Western technology as superior. Pollution in China is well known and I won't deny China's eco problems. But the government has made green initiatives like eco-friendly buses in Beijing and by investing in solar, wind and water energy. China is currently world's largest producer of green energy but we are still heavily reliant on coal for power, which burns dirtily. It will probably take years for China to reduce our fossil fuel consumption and switch to renewable energy.
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+DarkZerol The latest N.K missile test could have "failed" because maybe Kim really doesn't want war with USA, but he doesn't want to back down and lose face too. So he make the missile misfire on purpose... ....or maybe he's really not that cunning and the test really failed because of US intervention?
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+Justin Chaquo There is no official proof, only speculation by Chinese netizens. The government has always issued statement saying China oppose N. K missile test, but is always slow to respond. So why did President Xi Jinping suddenly implement policies like "cancel all flights to Pyongyang" and "reject N. K coal shipment", so quickly after the meeting with Trump? These policies need time to plan and implement, but they were done almost instantaneous after the US-China meeting. One reason could be that the government planned this ahead, since Trump has been constantly announcing on Western media that he plans to talk to China about North Korea. So President Xi had time ahead to plan on his response to Trump before meeting him, to coincide with our goals. Or maybe President Trump, with zero political experience, somehow managed to convince President Xi, with 20+ years of political experience, to do something about N.K that Obama and previous POTUS failed to do. Anyway, this is just my speculation as Chinese.
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+PEDRO North and South Korea were created by Western powers not China. Korea was originally unified under Joseon dynasty, but after Japanese surrender, it was split into North Korea (Soviet Union) and South Korea (USA). N. Korea tried to unify Korea, and almost succeeded (90%), but was prevented by USA intervention. China only joined in the war when USA and S. Korea went beyond 38 parallel and began threatening Chinese border provinces (Liao Ning). So why are you blaming China for something that the Western powers created? Why did Korea had to be divided in first place? If there was no division, then there is no North and South Korea and therefore, no invasion by the North.
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+whatfreedom7 As a Chinese, I would also personally advise Americans not to trust China fully. Every country is promoting the interests of their own country, just like Trump's "America first" slogan. I got nothing against Americans wanting to improve their country, but it would be better to focus on improving domestic issues like repealing/replacing Obamacare instead of policing the world. Just my opinion is all~ +Ste U.K So if China is Trump's puppet, then why did Trump emerged praising China and not labeling us currency manipulators? Or Trump even not commenting on Taiwan or the South China Sea issues? These were the issues that threatened US-China relationships, but now they seem to off the radar, which is to China's benefit.
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+Pedro But why USA and Allied powers choose to get involved in Korean Civil War in first place? It was internal war and should be decided by Koreans themselves, not USA or China. At the time of Korea's division, North Korea was actually faring better off economically than South Korea, who had political instability and economic crises. That was why N. K almost conquered S. K, but was stopped because of USA intervention in Korean civil war. N. Korea's problem today stems from the fact that it is still at war with USA, and because of that, it is unable to do business with other countries because of US. In 2016, it was revealed that N. Korea approached the US about conducting formal peace talks to formally end the war. Simply put, Korea would probably be much different if USA did not join the war against N. Korea. Reunified Korea by the North would not be in the situation today, because it would be free to trade as it was not at war with USA. Also, why are you so rude and keep calling Chinese by racist slurs? I do not insult you and use derogatory terms against you.
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+XIAXIA XU I agree that the problem in N.K was initially started by the West. Korea was unified during Joseon dynasty, but after Japanese surrender, it was divided North Korea (Soviets) and South Korea (USA). In my opinion, Korea should have been kept as one country, then there will be no N. Korea and no S. Korea and therefore, no invasion by the North. China knows N. K's point of view, but we cannot afford to keep supporting N.K forever. China always support denuclearisation of N.K, but we are also loosing our influence of N. K as time goes by. Kim Jung Il (ex-leader of N.K) visited China before, but Kim Jung Un did not. We need to start with small punishment first, but make sure it doesn't look like we are doing it purposely. That's why President Xi Jinping only implement this policy against N. K only after meeting with Trump, so it looks like China is working with USA.
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+Pedro Like I said, US was getting involved in civil war, which was none of their own business in first place. To answer your question, China did not even invade South Korea. China only joined the war after USA, and Chinese forced did not push past the 38 parallel into South Korea. So when did China invade South Korea? You are clearly being anti-Chinese and abusing racist slurs against Chinese people. Why other country's soldiers are not considered murderers as well? In fact, whichever country you are from, your people would need to kill other people at one point, so who in the world isn't descendant of murderers? Chinese people also feel sad at tragic state of N. Korea, but a collapse and refugee crisis is very serious problem. N. Korea has population of 24 million people, so which country would accept 24 million refugees? Already in Europe, the locals are complaining about Syrian refugees, so we do not want the same thing to happen to China. Regime collapse will also trigger more starvation and deaths than the current situation too. Why is China being blamed for this mess that USA and Soviet Russia created? The N. Koreans are only interested in talking to USA and S. Koreans, not Chinese. N. Koreans always target US bases in East Asia, so what can China do? Chase away US forces from the region?
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+Pedro Yalu river is border between North Korea and China so why you keep insist China invaded South Korea? China only crossed Yalu river when USA was already pushing past 38 parallel into North Korean territory. Like I said, China entered the war because USA entered it first. When Korea was divided into North and South, then S. Korea territory was defined by 38 parallel line of division. So can tell you tell me if China cross this 38 parallel line into S Korea? No, because China did not. It was North Korean army that cross this line and began Korean Civil War.
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***** You asked if China invade South Korea and I replied many times that China did not cross 38 parallel so why you don't understand? Yalu river is China and North Korean border, not S. Korea and is not the 38 parallel. You should read up on Korean geography like Mark said. I never denied China involvement, I only said China joined after USA joined the Korean war. North Korea almost succeeded in unifying Korea but USA intervened in their civil war first. Why you don't complain about their interference? At least China is region neighbor of Korea but USA is on opposite side of Pacific. I also explained that North Korea was created by Soviet Union so why are you blaming China again? Why Korea divided in first place? If there's no division then there's no invasion and so on.
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+Pedro If South Korea had practically won the war with US help, then why not say North Korea had practically won the war earlier, before USA intervened? North Korea had conquered 95% of whole Korea, but was prevented from unifying Korea, because of USA intervention. USA even pushed past 38 parallel into North Korean territory. Like I mentioned many times, did China cross 38 Parallel into South Korea? No, so how did China invade South Korea?
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***** Are you going repeat same point? Why not blame USA instead when North Korea conquered 95% of Korea before US intervened? At least Korea will be united by Koreans themselves instead of by foreign power intervention. NK today developed nuclear weapons because it is still at war with USA. If US did not intervene in against NK, then NK today has no reason to acquire nukes and build more weapons. Korea would be unified, and not at war with any country.
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***** Like I said, NK invest heavily in nuclear weapons because USA declare war against NK. Otherwise if USA did not intervene, Korea today will be unified by Koreans themselves and not at war with any country. The money spent on missile tests would instead go to other areas like economic growth. Today, nobody wants business with NK because it still at war with USA. How to normalise relations with rest of world? One moment you said not live in past, but you keep insulting my grandfather. Our soldiers died on our regional turf, Korean soldiers died protecting their land, but USA troops died on foreign soil in other country's internal civil war.
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***** I answered with "Today, nobody wants business with NK because it still at war with USA. How to normalise relations with rest of world?" If you have nothing more to contribute then no point continuing this discussion. You only seem interested in insulting people and their grandparents. I do not insult you or your grandparents, wherever you came from.
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***** Once again, you are only interested in insulting people's grandfathers. What about when N. Korea conquered 95% of Korea before US intervened in civil war? What about USSR creating NK and USA creating SK? Ultimately, N. Koreans are still Koreans whether like it or not. Half of Korea is prosperous but the other half isn't, so what is whole Korea's real situation? S. Koreans still have families in NK and same for N Koreans having relatives in the south. Why don't you blame the countries that divided Korea in first place and prevented its unification by Koreans themselves?
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***** Is insult Chinese people all you know, until you ignore all other factors? Tell me which East Asian country in world is still war with USA? Would your company want do business with country still at war with USA? Of course not. In 2016, North Korea approached Washington to talk about signing peace treaty, but it failed. USA declared war with NK after NK conquered 95% of Korea. So if there's no USA intervention, then Korea will reunited. There be no need for huge military or nuclear weapons and companies will still set up business there since there is no looming US threat. Korea would be much different than it is today. And you still want blame China as sole reason for current state of Korea?
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+Pauly Love All day I am glad you found my post useful. Yes it is true that China usually drag our foot regarding imposing sanctions on NK, but the most recent plans were executed rather quickly, especially after the Trump-Xi meeting. It is possible that these initiatives were planned ahead, and executed at the precise moment when it would benefit China. The Chinese government knows we are slowly losing influence over NK, as previous NK leader, Kim Jung Il (current leader's father) was frequent visitor to China, but Kim Jung Un (current leader) has not visited China at all since coming into power. We need to do something to re-exert our influence, but we also mustn't appear too aggressive in our initiatives. So we disguise our approach, by making the plans coincide with after the US meeting, to deflect blame from China. From what Trump has said, it appears that China may have also benefited by the promise of better trade deals with USA. Timing is extremely important when implementing new policies. For example, Trump implementing the Muslim ban from Middle East countries met with fierce negative response from many people. However, if let's say Trump implement this policy only after a terrorist attack (whether in US or somewhere else) then maybe (just maybe) he could have gotten a better response, and possibly better support for his policy. It may be cold-hearted, but its the dirty part of politics. Trump implementing his policy at the wrong time could result in lesser support for it.
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