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Comments by "oolong2" (@oolong2) on "Is Ana Kasparian Anti-Trans?" video.
I've been a TYT member for probably a decade now. The problem with Ana, and TYT for the past few years, is constantly adopting right wing nomenclature and framing when fighting against right wing nomenclature and framing. They've also gotten into this habit recently of getting into these twitter fights with people to the left of them and it's starting to become reminiscent of the Democratic party establishment punching down to progressives when getting criticized from the left. I don't know the details of these fights, but these weird beefs come through in their reporting where they claim that people on far left are okay with crime, etc. and I have no idea who they're even talking about. There are much more productive ways of having these discussions and twitter robs people of that, but to pretend that inclusive phrasing somehow minimizes you as a woman is pretty absurd. It's like when the right wing says that gay marriage somehow minimizes their marriage.
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@Free2_express08 No one identifies themselves as "a person with a uterus", especially not trans people. That's the problem with Ana's entire twitter post. She's completely misrepresenting the situation. She's acting as if a description of someone's biology is the same as an identity. Just like a person with breasts might have to deal with breast cancer, or a person with blue eyes has to worry about their eyes getting too much UV exposure. That does not make those things an "identity".
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@missright9159 Yup....
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@Marbles471 I wish I could tell you who I'm referring to because they don't name anyone specific, which is the problem.... They just randomly throw out sentences like "Some on the left think that persecuting crime is a bad thing" and you never know who they're talking about. I'm assuming they're throwing shade at people like Olayemi Olurin and the prison abolition movement. Maybe it's some Twitter fight they got into, who knows. But I commented on those videos asking who they were talking about, because they (Cenk & Ana, but especially Ana) suddenly just started ranting about crime and people on the left not caring about crime. It was strange and without any context.
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@Marbles471 The reason why we have a different penal system for minors/juveniles compared to adults is because we understand that people's brains aren't fully developed and rational until they reach a certain age. Yet somehow people throw that idea out the window when a child does something horrendous. Suddenly they want to try a child as an adult or in your case, think the child is forever unsalvageable. A horrible act doesn't magically change biology.... So you have understand that thinking that way isn't exactly rational, especially when you start making assumptions about a child's "soul". There is a reason why terrorists and gang members get indoctrinated at a young age. At the same time there are plenty of gang members that did horrible things in their youth who came out of prison older, wiser, and completely rehabilitated. I don't know what the situation was, but the goal should be to fix what led to that point so that we don't create more victims in the future. However blind vengeance doesn't actually help society or victims. It only makes people feel better to harm people that have harmed others.
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@biocapsule7311 Those right wing think tanks wouldn't be so effective if they didn't get help from the media spreading those narratives. Progressive media shouldn't take the bait.
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@Marbles471 Without citing actual examples of the left not caring about victims of crime or a specific policy debate then it sort of becomes a pointless discussion. It comes across as vaguely blaming the left for something with absolutely no avenue to address it or correct it. Similar to how Ana talked about the left somehow "doing something" for disenfranchised young men in the US. It's nothing more than an empty talking point without actual policies. If it is a specific person saying something in favor of crime or callous to a victim, then we can talk about that statement. If it is a specific policy someone is proposing that doesn't make sense then we can discuss that policy. However when TYT suggests that "people on the far left" prefer that murderers and rapist roam around free then all they're doing is creating straw men that serve no purpose other than to smear without giving a chance for anyone to respond to it. I don't see how using your platform to shadowbox against fictional left characters, who may or may not be on Twitter, helps the progressive movement.
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@mauriciosalazar2289 Sorry, but I have no idea what you're trying to say.
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