Comments by "Steven Price" (@stevenprice6957) on "COURT TV" channel.

  1. That opening from Vinnie was as passionate as it gets and man was he on the money or what. Warped is a perfect word for this family. The way he described everything was straight from the heart. It was a beautiful thing to listen to. If that doesn’t touch you, nothing will. This evil family. Charlie and the murder factory. What kind of mother is Donna 🙄 just the thought of her is one ugly picture. Wendy the sly spoilt manipulating daughter. There’s a reason she told her soon to be ex boyfriend of the hit plan a year ago. There’s a reason she mentioned him her brother early on to the cops. It’s because she’s a selfish evil wicked woman. She doesn’t care about anything but herself. She’s covering her own arse by stating those things. It cleans her hands from it. I hope they can get her for something. The sick and Twisted is the family motto.
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  2. How is the muppet not in jail. He and Karen should marry and get a joint cell.
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  3. Guilty. She shot him in the Back of the leg. So he ain’t facing her is he. Seems more like he’s trying to escape or possibly she just did the sneaky shoot him when he’s just innocently walking away. From behind. Duh. Back of the calf. Her cute and innocent look doesn’t fool me.
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  4. Ok so let’s use common sense here. Karen asked Jen to google how long to die in the cold. Think about it peoples. Why would Karen ask that if she didn’t know what time John was left on the cold? The simple and logical answer is she knew roughly what time she hit John and left him in the cold. She had over 5 hours to save that poor man who was freezing to death but she chose not to for whatever reason. Guilty.
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  5. I knew Karen was a snake 🐍 but also now know she’s a cheetah 🐆
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  6. Guilty
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  7. Evil Karen will go down one way or another.
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  8. Good on you Matt. I watched this a whole case from start to finish. The prosecution was the only guilty party here. Seriously. No DNA no traces of tree matter on him or his home. The whole thing was a joke. How they even charged him was just baffling. I’m glad he has that defence lawyer doing her work with a passion. You can easily see how innocent people get convicted. There’s almost a crooked side to prosecutors at times and a lot of the times. They way they can just put things under the carpet if it doesn’t suit their case. It’s a very flawed system world wide. It was a no brainer she killed herself. Like she said, he ain’t a mastermind and he isn’t Houdini. I’d ask a for strong man to carry a body through scrub and stage this in the manner explained and ask how they could have done it. He looked totally unfit and for him to have no tree matter or scrub matter on his clothes or at the house or car is impossible. Anyways. It’s good to see an innocent man be set free. It’s sad what happened but people kill themselves. She unfortunately killed her self. Family and friends want someone to blame. There’s no one to blame. It just happens.
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  9.  @leanndoolin4284 you obviously don’t understand. Watch again and this time take the conspiracy glasses off
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  10. We don’t know the circumstances of their marriage. Whether he was a monster or she was just as bad. All we know is one was cheating and it wasn’t him. No one deserves to die and of course not this woman. What we don’t like for certain is, did he do it. We can guess and have a hunch but none of us really know the answer to this. Abused partners should always walk but it’s not that easy for some. Then again if you are a cheating partner, then you should be walking before you make that move to do so.
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  11. Guilty. Cold and dangerously psychotic
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  12. So Karen went back to the crime scene to view her dirty work. She could have got help then because she didn’t get help at 12:35. 53 calls and added calls to mummy and daddy. Rings Roberts and states John is dead and hangs up. Umm who does that. Then rings again and says Johns probably dead and could have been hit by a plough ? Nice story Karen as we saw you drive past a plough just after 5. Then gains her witnesses and puts on a Betty Davis acting clinic back at the scene. Why didn’t she knock on the door and demand what happened? Any person would do that. Instead she rants I hit him. Her lawyer on her behalf stated that she didn’t hit him that hard ? It was an accident and she’s been over charged. That’s when the conspiracy started and 2 years after the crime she changed her story to say she saw John walk in. First she could not remember because she was too drunk. Then it was I only had 4 drinks, another lie. Also didn’t she say she slept for 4 hours ? How’s she making calls and texts and voicemails in her sleep ? Another lie on top of countless others. Arrogant narcissistic killer Karen. What a piece of work. As for the Google search we will see it was made after 6am as it’s impossible to Google 2 things at once in a millisecond. Answer is the app was still open when Karen demanded to know how long it takes to die in the cold. Why is she asking that unless she knows what time John was left in the cold? Guilty. Monster.
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  13. No doubt she did it. Don’t look the other way when evidence is presented.
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  14. Guilty. Lock that whack job up. Justice for John.
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  15. She definitely did it.
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  16. Karen’s Fan boy Matt.
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  17. Killer Karen is going under.
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  18. John’s DNA inside the tailight ? It was a brand new car. Common sense. He didn’t work at Lexus building tailights did he ! ?
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  19. Karen looks in her 60s. Must be all that lying. No good for the complexion 😵
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  20. Vinnie is a legend.
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  21. Karen had 6 butt dials that night. She factory reset her 2 phones before handing them over. It took then 7 months to gain Access to Karen’s data on her main phone as she would not give any pass words. So by your theory she’s guilty right. Or sus😊
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  22. Wow, just wow. You just shake your head to hearing what humans are capable of. It’s like it’s not real when you listen to the testimony. I do wonder if that sort of thing should be shown in a live tv situation. My view is it shouldn’t be televised. So sick.
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  23. Blame Karen. Costing tax payers millions. Says it was an accident then oops i mean someone else did it. Frosty the snowman ☃️
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  24. No brainer. Was always going to happen. Karen will have court for the rest of days. I wonder how Karen is going to explain her lies when on the stand 😂 should be fun to watch her story telling.
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  25. Well they looked through it and found no conspiracy. That is why this is a trial.
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  26.  @teresathayn5170 Not sure what you are actually saying. That scratch was as minimal as gets. Wasn’t she packing boxes all day and taking stuff Inside the truck ? I’ve seen worse marks when someone scratches themselves. Lol. Guilty.
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  27. Nick has one view and Kevin had another. What’s the difference? Nick sits with the family on court. So do you actually think he is unbiased. I actually find Kevin to be straight down the line.
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  28. Duhh. So because nobody saw something means it was not there or didn’t happen 🙄. What if no one looked in this darks area on the other side of the property? I mean blind plow man with his big spot lights didn’t see him at 5;30am. So does that mean he still wasn’t there? Lol. Did they dig the snow to ground and grass level at 5;45am and then cover John up did they? Wow and how amazing Karen saw him and identified him minutes later 🥴 He had frost bite and hyperthermia was a major cause of his death. 12:32am when Karen goes crash boom bang, John doesn’t move again. It’s not hard is it.
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  29. Really? He wouldn’t get away with this in most communities.
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  30.  @jewels07 intimidation to witnesses. Harassment to women. Scaring kids. His time will come.
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  31. Karen is still drunk.
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  32. Jackson lies again. Hank showed how ridiculous this is.
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  33. Lol. GPS disagrees with you. He didn’t go in the house. Karen smoked him. Then blamed a plow
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  34. His DNA is on the tail light.
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  35. She won’t walk. They will try her again.
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  36.  @Gizmo_the_Pug No. 2 shots. One in the side like 45degree angle that went through his lung. The other was the back of the leg. Calf area. What I’m saying is that the shot to the calf was from behind. He wasn’t facing her. So was he a threat then? Was he a threat at all. Yep he had some priors but he had never struck her at all. She lied all along. False allegations.
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  37. She is. He’s trying for her fans though.
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  38. Wow Sickening comment.
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  39. Her nightmare is growing. She thought he was just going to get up after she swiped him and keep drinking. She’s in denial. At 5am when she rang Carrie Roberts she said johns dead. Then hangs up. That’s as plain as day she believed he was dead. Guilty.
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  40. She’s doing more than lying. She is causing a hurricane to the family and all those around. Shameful and evil.
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  41. Guilty. It wasn’t frosty the snow man. It was psycho Karen
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  42. Karen read is Norman Bates mother in Disguise 😂😂😂
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  43. What about leaving him there to die ? That’s the most horrific part. She could have saved him. Probably headed home smiling instead.
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  44. I love women. I hate Karen. She’s a killer. There is a difference 🥹
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  45. No killing makes you guilty. Karen’s guilty
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  46. You shouldn’t have fans on these shows. It should be unbiased.
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  47. Karen’s a killer
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  48. It does with GPS. The conspiracy is ridiculous and Karen is guilty.
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  49. Yeah ok. That’s why at 5am she told Carrie Roberts John is dead before hanging up. Answer that with a conspiracy theory please.
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  50.  @melaniereisner8375  none of the truck data was missing. You’ve heard or read it wrong. His truck didn’t move from the driveway that night. He car didn’t either. No other vehicle on the premises. So it’s very much a mystery.
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  51. If who searched that ? Are you watching the trial. Are you talking about Karen Read or Jenn Mcabe ? We know Jenn mcabe searched it at 6:23am on behalf of Karen read who was going ape droppings and putting on her best Betty Davis acting exhibition. I hope that answers it for you.
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  52.  @michellesayers5346 I hate killers. So yes I hate Karen read. I have people who blame others for their actions. That’s Karen read. I ain’t a cop and in fact have been on the other side of the fence. I’m grown up now as I’m an older man. I dislike killers. Female or male. Karen is a monster. I have no bone in this. If a cop did this I’d be the same against he or her.
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  53. She was totally biased. Too soft on Jackson from go to woh.
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  54. It’s not rocket science. This is a simple hit and run that turned into the lock ness monster flying in an alien spaceship around a flat earth. One person started that and her name is Karen.
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  55. With what ? Conspiracies lol. All evidence points to his client.
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  56. Are they ? She’s guilty. That’s fact. You go which way you like. The evidence is damning
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  57. As a breeder of pig hunting dogs for around 20 years. They are not dogs bites. Not even close. Dogs breath DNA out as their mouths are so wet. Put your hand near a dogs mouth and see for yourself. Dog bites. Hilarious stuff.
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  58. Why don’t you follow the evidence properly? That’s at 12:21am. He didn’t arrive till 12:24:33. So before you break into a sweat over nothing , check the data off John’s GPS and his waze app. It’s all there. Look at it. Use your common sense. They are 3/4 of a mile away from the address. John is yet to put the address into his phone. He puts it in after these so called stair climbs. lol. Karen didn’t drive a triple decker bus did she ? It’s an exercise app lol. Not GPS. It guesses what you are doing. So if you are waving your phone in your hand and driving up hills it’s not going to say he is waving the phone he’s in a car going up and down hills. Use your common sense. Stop with the rubbish.
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  59. Yet the one who admitted it and said he was dead an hour earlier, and then amazingly with her X-ray vision knew exactly where John was. What w coincidence that is. Amazing Karen 😂. Lock her up.
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  60. Yeah 15 people in a house with a load of cops are going to bash a bloke to nearly death and then plonk him on their front lawn 🙄 If that isn’t the most ridiculous theory there is then I’d like to know what is. No footprints from the house to the body ? So did they pat them down did they 😂. She killed him whether on purpose who knows. She definitely smacked him with her automobile. She then left him as drunk as a skunk so she’s liable for his death in anyway you put it. She admits it at first then changes her story. What was she doing with her father upstairs alone ? Then leaving straight away? She’s guilt ridden. She’s one cold dangerous woman and has a fan club for some stupid reason. Where are you when innocent people get put away? You are there for the guilty but not for the innocent. Shame on the sheep dressed as humans around the court house. She’s most likely going to get off because one of sheep will be on the jury. It’s almost like a game show the American justice system.
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  61. Guilty. The interviews will be much more important than daddy’s phone. They must come in.
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  62. Have these shows even lost their marbles. Seriously I enjoy Vinnie and his passion on many things but wow what was he on about here ? Same with that reporter ? Is it Matt ? He’s almost like a fan boy out front when around the Karen clan. The search was done at 6:23 and that’s a fact. Nick saying Jen’s husband now lol. Haha. This is a billion to 1 that any person could possibly do what he’s explaining yet Matt McCabe who does IT can do it. My goodness the fairy stories are floating further into an alien spaceship here. The reason Karen asked that at 6:23 is because she knew exactly how long John was left out in the cold because she left him there after swiping him. How would she know how long he’s been out there? It could be 10 mins so what’s the point of the question. Did Nick say Karen didn’t know he was dead or was that the little man Jackson ? Umm 5am she said johns dead. Who does that. He didn’t answer your calls during the day so did you think he was dead then Karen ? Oh but 53 calls between 1am and 5am and he’s dead because he hasn’t answered your phone ? You are as cold as ice Karen. Killer and guilty. Left him to die nice and slowly didn’t she.
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  63. Huh. No. A psycho killing bunny boiling ,deranged ,unhinged and a twisted sociopath is evil. That would be Karen.
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  64. Guilty. Unhinged. She’s still unhinged.
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  65. Karen is guilty. A child could see that.
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  66.  @earlsmypearl5949 yea stupid had to be fixed. Karen’s muppets are blinded bluffed and gullible.
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  67. Fantastic opening. They would want Karen to keep talking as it’s just getting worse for her. She will talk herself into prison. Jackson had to be barred. He broke the law more then once and lied to a jury. They all did.
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  68. Head spinning around like Linda Blair. Karen stars in the exorcist 😂
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  69. So she didn’t know he was lying dead in the snow ? Haha. Then why did she say johns dead and a plow killed him ? Your comment is ridiculously bad. Wakey wakey.
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  70. That’s the last image poor John saw before she ran him down then said she f—ing hates him. Wow, What a way to go.
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  71. So 4 people are mistaken. Amazing how she found the body buried in snow. She Said there’s John from the car. That’s when she quickly rang him then left her phone laying there and did a Betty Davis acting exhibition on front of her witnesses.
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  72. Lol. They said they paid fir the testimony. It’s in writing lol
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  73.  @anitafowler622 you bombed out on all points.
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  74.  @notozknows She is guilty. Only a moron would think otherwise if they’ve gone through all evidence and data GPS coordinates etc. only a moron. This bloke is correct. Narcissist extreme
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  75. It shows he was hit by Karen’s vehicle.
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  76.  @SteveG-f1e quiet Steve. Great name dumb comment. You should know better with a great name like that. Don’t embarrass it.
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  77. Guilty AF.
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  78. She went back to view her dirty work just after 5. Thought she was sleeping ? How’s she on her phone then ? Thought she had 4 drinks ? Thought she couldn’t remember as she was too drunk? Thought she stated that she didn’t hit him that hard ? Lies lies Killer Karen.
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  79. Karen is lying. We know that. I mean 10 different things can’t be the truth can they ? Only one can. That’s the I hit him part.
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  80. How can you believe 24 different stories lol.
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  81. God? Where ? You seen him ?
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  82. This monster needs life in prison. Behind the intimidating witnesses. Innocent people don’t do that. Psycho killer
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  83. Karen is guilty. That’s what I believe. Not a made up conspiracy. Jackson might as well of blamed bugs bunny.
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  84. What’s that ? Made up conspiracies? He should write fairy tales for kids.
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  85. The world knows the man was guilty.. how a country like America can let a double Murderer walk free is Mind boggling. I suppose bias for famous people is alive and well in the USA.
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  86. Turtle neck is avoiding the evidence. It all points to Karen. No one else.
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  87. Hopefully brother and sister can rot away in jail. The wife Wendy 😬 wow what a piece of work she is. The manipulation runs through her veins on constant. These spoilt little brats. What a pathetic mother Wendy is. Having their father gunned down like that. The brother, what a little clown he is. Cannot wait to see what Wendy’s boyfriend at the time of the murder speaks again. He’s a classic. Nail these siblings and mummy dearest.
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  88. Maybe because all roads pointed to Karen.
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  89. These 2 are in the same bucket as Karen Read. Throw the 3 of them in prison.
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  90.  @Jennifermcintyre  Where are you getting this from ? Is this a social media rumour ?
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  91. A nut job. She rings ms Roberts and states John us dead and then hangs up ? She’s an actress and a bad one.
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  92. Would you. Classy stuff. If I were Karen I’d take responsibility like I did at the beginning instead of blaming everyone but herself.
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  93. Accidentally lol. She rammed him.
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  94. She got dragged out of a retirement home. She wants her 5 mins of fame. Read about the case and wanted in. Has no idea about the evidence. Huge fail from the defence and hopefully it costs them.
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  95. The ones who failed to look at evidence lol. The ones who said it’s inconsistent? The vehicle data is consistent with a vehicle hitting a pedestrian. She got something. Was o a wheelie bin or John. Hmm. I wonder
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  96.  @Mamashuge yeah well just because someone dumped rubbish, I’m afraid they need more than that. Were those bins searched ? I’m sure they were. Did they find zero ? My guess is yes as nothing has come of it.
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  97.  @CourtTV  ? Is that you Vinnie 😂. Weird comment.
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  98. Prison wants him.
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  99. Did you know Ted Bundy ? Did you like or hate? Or think he’s just ok? lol 😊
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  100. Guilty.
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  101. Truth hurts some.
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  102.  @Journey007a why is someone a troll because they disagree with you ? Isn’t it an opinion?
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  103. I Still believe there could be footage of Karen swiping John and the free Karen’s would say she’s innocent 😅 Imagine if this was a male who was obsessed , unhinged and a cheater, who killed a woman and letting her die slowly. Imagine the uproar. There would be no one wanting him to get away with it. Yet here we are. Nothing Karen does is wrong. Her lies are just avoided. Her actions avoided. Her admissions avoided. Strange stuff.
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  104. Wally Morgan yeah I hope he takes them to court and gets compensation for the hell they have put him through.. he’s lost a son hanging from a tree and these detectives think, he’s going to carry her to the woods through scrub and brush with a bottle under his arm pit and then has no tree matter in the car? In the house? Etc. he was out drinking all day on her birthday and has the skills to do this Houdini crime? Her sister rang her and texted her the morning of her birthday, guess what, Emily who we know was alive during the whole day, didn’t text her back or ring her! That says to me she just didn’t want to talk to anyone and had this in her mind probably days before. We know the old man saw her the next morning. So how’s he get her there and clean up the crime 🙄.
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  105. Guilty.
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  106. He’s probably the only one with guts to state the truth
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  107. Dog bits? Where? With no DNA. No bottom jaw. Is it a toy dog ?
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  108. It’s very basic common sense. You would see pieces falling and laying on top of snow. Escape red pieces. Different at 34 when she swiped him as snow was just starting to gather. It was buried. Karen is a hell raiser.
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  109. For what ? There’s zero evidence against them. All roads point to psycho Karen. She will have to explain 12 lies on the stand. Haha. She’s gone.
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  110.  @Mrgazzo she’s a killer. No one wants to be in those shoes. Normal people don’t anyway
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  111.  @Humalienora  She only looks off to me because she’s a narcissist killer.
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  112. Ohh they do. Believers lol. Lock Karen up and please throw away the key.
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  113. She’s a deadly dangerous lady and has her fans totally bluffed.
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  114. Justice for Karen ? I’ve heard it all now. She makes Norman Bates seem normal. Lock the wicked thing up
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  115. Yes they do. They know she killed John.
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  116. He actually knows the case better than most. Guilty
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  117. You have to tell the court first lol.
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  118. Because she’s a monster that left a police officer for dead
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  119.  @ciecie16 Yea Karen Read. She’s up there with the worst of them. First admits it then does the blaming game. Best to be not naive to the facts. She 100% killed him and could have saved him. She left him for dead.
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  120.  @partyuv5 You have zero idea. You wouldn’t trust your plumber with an opinion after looking at 30% of evidence lol. Guilty. A child could see that
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  121. It’s jury lotto. Fact is he shouldn’t have been armed with a gun watching a movie. There were signs everywhere stipulating this. The old man got macho and thought he was above the law. Shooting him over popcorn and texting. Very Baffling that he got away with that.
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  122.  @hankenson I think his point is she’s deadly dangerous. A sociopath. Narcissist. Evil. And a killer. What do you think hank ?
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  123. @ one was asleep. When fighting for your life in split seconds who says you’d scream ? You’d fight for your life and your focus would be getting the knife away from your heart your head so that’s where your energy would go. Not screaming. There’s a camera recording. No screams at all. A dog barks. There’s one loud thud. You do not hear a girl or a guy scream. So stick with the facts of whet happened not what you think could or should. No screaming was recorded. That simply means not screaming happened.
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  124. It’s as weak as water. She will likely go down for something and that’s how spun out the system is. This shouldn’t have been a trial in my mind. Imagine everyone going up on charges with this evidence. Pure guess work.
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  125. Karen shouldn’t have killed John.
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  126. Double jeopardy is you cannot be tried for the same crime twice when found not guilty. Fact is she wasn’t found not guilty. Move on.
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  127.  @Minnie-i8n Minnie. Guilty. Karen’s a monster
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  128. Because she left him there even if at first it was an accident. If she chooses to get help he could have possibly lived. She didn’t. That’s murder in the 2nd. That’s the law.
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  129. Seeks truth. Man oh man. He’s making up one conspiracy at time without any substance. That’s seeking truth is it 🙄
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  130. Narcissistic women won’t stop smiling.
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  131. Karen is the worst accused
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  132. True. The defence with the turtle and co have put fear into people. I wouldn’t be scared of the tadpoles but some might be.
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  133. Karen framed herself. Monster
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  134. Justice is Karen locked up
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  135. People seem to ignore this. Who does that when a boyfriend fails to come home at a suitable time for Karen. She even drive to the crime scene to view her dirty work before grabbing witnesses and putting on a Betty Davis show.
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  136. Melanie knows about as much as turtle neck. Maybe she should get her facts right and don’t believe everything she is told.
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  137. Says you ? Haha. Ok must be true then
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  138. Karen will tell them.
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  139.  @mauiswift6391 Take another look at it. She said a plow killed him before anyone knew he was dead. Then she found him with her frat vision. She admitted it in the first court hearing. Said she had no criminal intent lol. Also said she had a brain tumour. 😅
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  140.  @daniellethomas2915 totally agree. He went off the rails. Just lie his client did that fateful night.
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  141.  @sherry8894 the stuff right in front of you. I am not going to explain it all as there’s so much. Maybe I’ll start with she admitted it several times to several people and stated he was dead an hour before she found him. Just for good measure, what about seeing him in that weather under snow ? She got X-ray vision has she. You could not see anything even from the police car with a spot light on. Guilty.
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  142. Definitely wrong verdict. Above the law. Had he firstly stuck to the law, he would have been unarmed and this wouldn’t have happened.
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  143.  @jenniferruth812 it’s in court reports. She changed her story so many times I’ve lost count.
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  144. Any logical and honest person would say she’s guilty. Others wouldn’t
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  145.  @phatt8970 She’s a killer. She looked anyway she could. Lock her up
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  146. It’s a very simple case if there’s basic common sense. The strongest part was his phone doesn’t move after her psycho reverse at speed. Duh. His DNA inside the housing of the tailight. I mean what’s wrong with people. A brand new car with a sealed tailight before this event. Umm there’s only one possible way his DNA gets inside a sealed tailight. Not too hard to work that out is it. Duh. Her saying 14 minutes after her crazy reversal. John where are you ? Umm wtf Karen. Didn’t you drop him off 14 mins ago? Nobody knows where you are ? In other words she knows what happened and she is extremely scared and shaken that he ain’t getting up to answer that phone. Then her anger surfaced again. First time within 5 mins I effing hate you. 14 mins after she hits him where are you. You pervert. You effin pervert. Umm ok Karen. Give it up. 5am he’s dead. Click!! 5:01 He is dead and a plough did it. Finds a man under a blob of snow and with her X-ray vision identified that man under the pile of snow to be John. This is in a blizzard in a car and in the dark. Ok Karen. Yep. Then admits it to all. It isn’t a hard one. Stop blaming everyone as there’s only one. There can only be 1. Karen. Duh.
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  147.  @notaliplayzzz Are you saying you know more than the Englishman and the woman the other day about phones ?
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  148. She did do it though. That’s how
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  149.  @thomasengel1459 ? Killers deserve what? Parades? Applause? Red carpet treatment? Karen deserves prison.
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  150. No they didn’t.
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  151.  @bobthetitanic he filmed it 😁
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  152. That was rubbish from the defence.
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  153. She swallowed it. Those smug looking detectives.. where was Grubbs ? Didn’t see it here from him. What an absolute bone head.
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  154. Have you ever been in the mind of a killer. Karen read the unhinged one. She wants him to answer. She hopes he answers. Her nightmare is growing. That’s why at 5am she rings Roberts and states John is dead. 5am.
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  155. Karen Adelson Boone.
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  156. Feds didn’t think so. I’ll take their skills over yours lol
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  157. Karen’s lies. Lol. Wake up
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  158.  @NYC2023-du8mg couldn’t believe he got away with it. I watched that. Shocking Verdict. Hopefully they put Karen the killer away.
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  159. Karen killed him. End of story. Whether on purpose or not, we’ll she can only answer that. She left him for dead so they part is definitely on purpose.
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  160. You have to realise the tailight is on John’s clothes. So unless you find a cover up she’s guilty. Its Simple. No time machines means she’s guilty
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  161. Killer. Twisted Karen lost the plot that night and caused a man’s death. It’s as simple as that. Should have plead guilty to save everyone.
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  162. She is as cold as Ice. These narcissists are so dangerous.
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  163. Not until Karen is behind bars
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  164. She called him praying he would answer as her nightmare was growing by the minute. She knew she got him and where she hit him. As anyone would, she was freaking out because he wasn’t picking up and she knew what possibilities that meant. That’s why she rang Carrie Roberts and said johns dead. Then hung up. It’s fairly simple.
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  165. You have to be moronic not to convict Charlie. It’s as plain as day, he is so guilty. Mother dear is too, but whether they can nail her is another thing. Gut feeling is she will get something, even if it’s not murder in the 1st. Plenty of other crimes they could easily pin her on. Pappa bear? Hmm think he escapes, even though of course he’s involved in someway. Dragon lady Wendy. ? Wow what a piece of work she is. It will be almost impossible to get her on conspiracy to commit murder but there’s a chance they put her up on lesser charges. What a family this is. The dental family 🙄 there’s been a few dentists that have murdered in America. Amazing. What a crazy country it is. Why on earth would you want to live there.
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  166. She’s gotten angry in the car and who knows, maybe he’s angry too. They’ve argued over something stupid which happens and she’s lost her cool in a moment of madness. Whether she tried to scare him or hit him while reversing ? Only she can answer that. The cover up theory is about as factual as the tooth fairy. She’s driven home in a panic and probably knocked over a few more drinks though anxiety and trauma of what she just did. Then she wants people to be with her when she finds the body. She found it alright. No one could see anything but she knew where to look and who it was that was laying there. Then she acts it up and even admits to hitting him. Did she ask who did this or demand that someone come out of the house and tell her what happened ? No she didn’t. She knew what happened. She should have plead guilty and copped the punishment. Instead she kills a man and wrecks a family and wrecks 2 kids lives who was their uncle but the custodian of them. She has wrecked all friends and family and she sits there with arrogance as though they are at fault. She belongs in one place. Evil and twisted Karen.
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  167. Guilty
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  168.  @CaraMills0106  Thanks. She is as crazy as they come. Won’t be a hard decision for the jury.
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  169. So anyone who hates her is an idiot ? Says you ? I hate her. Do you like killers ?
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  170.  @wmdkitty she said a plow did it. She admitted hitting him in court. What does no criminal intent mean 🤓
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  171. Because she’s a cop killer.
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  172.  @kimclarke5018  that was the prosecutions theory but no evidence was shown if he having an affair with anyone. Also speculation he was talking or searching a 15 year old girl. That’s not confirmed either. The wife Suzanne thought he was cheating or I believe was hoping he was cheating so it would make divorce proceedings easier. So yeah, no evidence he was cheating at all. Only evidence she was cheating with a married father of 6
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  173. You crack me up. Both of you. Do you realise how much canine DNA would be on the sweater ? It would be dripping . Lol.
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  174.  @susanq7870 it’s a normal look at it. Not conspiracy driven. He just follows evidence. He knows she’s guilty and turtle is speaks bull crap.
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  175. Why do Americans eat conspiracies for breakfast ? It’s like sugar on their cornflakes 😂 If it is against the government then that’s fantastic. Law enforcement well that’s good enough. I’m sure there’s smart people all over the US but it’s like a cult or something where people seem to latch onto. It grows legs quickly. Karen read is not important and a couple of retired cops are not important enough for a massive conspiracy cover up. Time machines don’t exist. Unless there’s an Einstein to the power of 10 then there’s no cover up. I can assure you there’s no Einsteins in canton.
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  176. lol. Give it up. Greene is a fraud. Lying through his pocket. Guilty. 2:27am was basketball’s search. You can’t search 2 things at once. You should know that lol.
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  177. Kevin is one of few to be gutsy enough against the mob to say it factually. The saw doesn’t lie. You can’t change GPS or the vehicle data. Karen you are a killer and a cold one.
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  178. No doubt. Guilty
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  179. Crap.
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  180.  @BoiseGreatDane Vinnie? Haha. Those are not from a dog. No DNA proves that
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  181.  @notsorryyouretriggered this isn’t a movie 😂😂😂. Guilty.
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  182. Karen is still drunk
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  183.  @jayouterbridge8 at the same time her tail light pieces were found at 34 Fairview. Unless you believe in time travel why even bother. So 45 people are in on it but Karen is the innocent one. Haha. Yeah right
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  184. For what ? Swearing. Is that against the law ? Serious question ?
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  185. Umm yeah of course. They had a few months left to do it. No brainer. She’s guilty and will pay in the end
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  186.  @SavvyMuhon . Only a half with would believe she’s innocent. She admitted it numerous times. In court also 😂 Duhh
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  187. What on earth does this have to do with Karen Read going ballistic in reverse while in a jealous rage? She was also the one cheating. Leaves him wiped out in a blizzard and goes takes a nap. She is the devils daughter and that’s being kind.
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  188.  @alicencosgrove5533 Yes I do. Karen is a killer. Fact.
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  189.  @wephotogal  True. If you can’t be objective in a case and you don’t even look at the video surveillance of the rubbish dump, then what are you doing on Court TV. That was very bad all round. Hopefully they will ask their guests if they are following the case in future.
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  190. With an army of turtles and lies. That’s what they are hoping for. It’s a Simone hit and run and we knew that from day one.
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  191. She knew she hit him. You know if you hit something. Whether she meant it? Only she knows that. She left him to freeze while dying. Guilty
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  192. Another Karen read.
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  193. ??? With 1/3 of the evidence. Which guy? The one with his wife on free Karen read pages ? Umm ok.
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  194.  @helenhines7639 only difference with black swan was, she was actually attractive. This one looks scary 😅
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  195. Guilty. She’s a killer.
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  196. He’s actually on the money. The data is bang on. 12:32 she goes boom on reverse. Amazing that he didn’t move after this moment. It wasn’t frosty the snowman was it ? Lol. He never got to the house. That’s fact.
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  197. Like never numb nuts. Kitty cat has 9 lies.
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  198. It’s an act. Like finding him on a ball of snow. Putting on a Betty Davis masterpiece or attempting to.
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  199.  @PJTYLER DNA says no dog no animal. Why do people still go with that ridiculous theory ? The defence dropped that before trial and only put it out before trial to suck people in and gain more fans. Or do you think the dog wore gloves ? This nonsense continues with people having no idea. She ran over him. She admitted it. She changed her story 4 times.
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  200. Guilty AF.
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  201. She shouldn’t have been allowed in the first or 2nd time. This judge is too soft.
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  202. Because the defence lies and deflects. Hank the beast is all over them
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  203. Yep for sure.
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  204.  @asha8000 hos hey. You still going with that when it’s actually factual that Karen asked for the search at 6:23 or demanded it and then 10 mins later when put in the looney bus she asked the ambulance officer virtually the same thing. Only difference was hos long to die without a coat. Of course Karen knew he didn’t have the coat when going feral at him in the car. Then he got out and we know what happened there by the Nutter going reverse. Add to that johns doesn’t move 8 seconds later. Get with the actual data here. Stop watching fake YouTube shows Look at the evidence. That’s what people usually do isn’t it ? As far as the not seeing him. Well for one, he’s on the outside of the property meaning the opposite side to the driveway where people came out to their car and it’s a dark area. Though I suppose you can ask yourself how didn’t the plough guy see him and he said he went down at all times and even at 5:30 ? Reckon it was more like 5;20 and he saw Karen while she was viewing her dirty work. Back to John Next door didn’t see him either and their front door is just as close. Across that small road? Those houses? Anyone ? What about all the cars that drove by for those 5 plus hours? None of them saw a body. Oh yeah that’s right, one person had X-ray vision that night. She had a bionic eye. She’s one of those incredibles. Karen read saw John. That’s when he’s covered with the most snow in a blizzard in the darkness while looking at her phone. You are incredible Karen. How on earth did you identify John ? Amazing. No she isn’t incredible or a bionic woman. She’s a psychopath who left him there and knew he was there all night. That’s why at 1:10 am she’s searching for DUI lawyers. Oh hold on, that wasn’t aloud on evidence was it. Think. Why os Karen searching DUI lawyers at 1:10 am. So 38 minutes after her crazy reverse and where John lay with tail light pieces in his clothes with vomit and blood. You know Karen yeah? The one that said he’s dead at 5am? Minute later she said it’s the ploughs fault lol. The one with a gaping hole in her tail light at 5;07 am. Pause zoom. It’s real easy with a remote. The one who admitted it at the scene. The one who said this is all my fault. The one who said sorry in court days later and said it was an accident. The one that then changed her story like 10 times lol. You know the one. What gets me is how dopey are humans. Fact avoiding the evidence. Fancy in believing in frosty the snowman. Fancy ignoring that the FBI found no cover up because guess what? There wasn’t one. Fancy actually supporter a killer. That’s sick.
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  205.  @calliew311 No it’s not. He should have faced consequences for that. Like she should have faced consequences for falsely accusing him of poisoning them. She set him up. Blind Freddy can see that. Who is saying he was a perfect man? No one. He could be a real ass. That doesn’t mean you can shoot and kill him. He had never hit her at all. So how scared was she when invited him over and sends her mum and daughter to the local park? Wasn’t too frightened was she. Guilty. These women seem to have a different set of rules. Like Karen read like them all. They get supporters like they are a football team. My goodness. What’s a matter with the humans these days. If he shot her would he have support? Would John Okeefe hsve support if he killed Karen read. It makes me sick. Now this pretty Ashley looks as innocent as a puppy dog but she isn’t. She’s evil on the inside. She took him out and shot him from behind. That’s a fact.
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  206. Dog is a fraud. Refused to look at any evidence. Yep that’s what an expert does 😅
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  207. Sick comment. Love a killer ? Wow warped
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  208. One juror has said that they didn’t say not guilty on any of the charges.
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  209. Guilty
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  210. No he said he didn’t see a man. That’s totally different to saying there was no man. Lol. Did John just get out? Well Seems like they have the GPS from her vehicle and times of when doors open. So we will find out exactly what happened and when.
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  211. Those are 100% not dog bites or scratches. The amount S canine DNA from a dog with be huge. They have saturated mouths. They don’t even look like dog bites. Where the heck is the bottom jaw ? No hair on his clothes from a dog and this dog is supposed to gave attacked him. Get a grip. It’s nothing more than a defence that is trying to defend. There is more chance that big foot did those marks.
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  212. Dog ? Scooby Doo or snoopy. No DNA so it had to be a cartoon doggie. Which one ?
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  213. He should take hold if the read case too. Tell them to cut the crap
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  214.  @Delta-w8 no. He’s definitely hitting the prison. Has more time free fro now.
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  215. Karen Read is like something Stephen King made up while having a nightmare 😂
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  216. So he ignores your calls all day as he don’t want to you. So he doesn’t answer 53 calls after midnight and you assume he’s dead or maybe still alive but hit by a plough. Haha ok Karen. Ok defence. Ok turtles. 😂
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  217. It’s all about lying and money. The read team. It’s all a fraud. She’s guilty and so is he.
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  218. She was never acquitted. She never will be. Either guilty or hung again. 9-3 last time. Not far off. She is guilty
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  219. Science lol. Fraud daddies.
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  220. Only turtle fans believe they are from a dog. DNA cleared any dog of being involved.
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  221. Guilty. Proven.
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  222. Who is Sarah Boone and what is she charged with? Sorry I’m from Australia and watch these trials as they come. Is she the nut job that locked her boyfriend in the suitcase over night ?
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  223. She’s telling the truth. Others skip around it. Eat some concrete and harden up.
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  224. She wants him to miraculously get up from her car swipe but unfortunately he couldn’t and didn’t. Thats why she rang Carrie Roberts at 5am and stated John is dead then hangs up. That’s all she said lol. Killer Karen
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  225. Karen saw everything
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  226.  @richiemaverick6883 exactly. Her story changed weekly. Those interviews have to come in. I have Never seen a woman so guilty. Had this been a man this case would be well and truly over. She’s a psychopath and a killer.
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  227. He actually speaks facts. Not conspiracy talk. Which would you rather ? Made up fairy stories or hard data ?
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  228.  @patsymc6717 Well said. Definitely a narcissist crossed with psychopath, obsessiveness , selfishness, evilness and all the rest. Straight out monster.
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  229. She did do it. It’s absurd that people believe she didn’t.
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  230. Lol.
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  231. The worst defence I’ve ever seen. Been going around with a circle of nothing. What a bunch of grubs. Lying Karen started it all. Killed a man then admitted it then thought oops o better blame others haha. What a dragon
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  232.  @Deondra72 Karen ? You drinking already ? Too early Karen
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  233. I know fairdinkum. How they let that on his baffling. She seems like a narcissist to me, so i would believe zero that come out of her mouth.
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  234. They would get along. Wendy Adelson should join for a wicket trio.
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  235. Ashley Read Adelson 😂
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  236. Give me a spell. Look at it all. She knew he was dead at 5 or thought he was. Instead of getting help she makes up stories that she left him at the waterfall? She goes to Fairview by herself at 5:20. She amazing finds his body with her X-ray vision in that weather ? Are you serious lol.
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  237. She railed John Okeefe. Nailed him too.
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  238.  @DoseReality-TWM look for yourself. 5;07am. Zoom. Gaping hole. Couldn’t have been planted. The damage Was done. Time Machines are not real.
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  239. Felt so sorry for the daughter just now. She loses her mother then her father gets killed by Ashley. Then she had to face the world on tv. She looked so scared…. Poor Angel.
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  240. Lol. It doesn’t matter if it came from Bugs bunny. It’s what’s in them lol.
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  241. I think it’s great that this lawyer was honest and not afraid to say exactly how he feels. Compared to the so called men who are too frightened to be honest about this case. As for fan boy Matt. Well. No comment.
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  242. Lol. Guilty.
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  243. He’s unlucky having a daughter like that
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  244.  @Cjc2390 if they were dog scratches, that would be found in a jiffy. They aren’t. It’s the bottom of her car. She hit him then ploughed him. She is guilty.
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  245. Guilty. John never got in the house GPS doesn’t lie. Karen does.
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  246. She’s guilty. It’s amazing that this case is still going. She did it. Frosty the snowy didn’t. The data GPS proved he never went in the house so it’s more lies from Karen. She’s blaming plows 🥴
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  247. I’m not sure you know law. She’s been letting things slide with Jackson’s actions and snide remarks and was even calm when he lost his Marbles. If you are speaking about this so called dog lady. She’s a Johnny come lately and had no idea on many things including the evidence. You just can’t have new witnesses stroll in off the streets to join a trial. Think about it. How she came across this trial ? Through the globe ? First time she saw this case was the 16th of may ? Umm yeah. Then she reached out and wanted to be a part of it.
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  248. There’s proof she’s a killer
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  249. Yep. She laughs about it now. Evil
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  250. That isn’t totally correct. Immunity from 1st degree but that wasn’t full immunity meaning she was never going to be charged. Though she was still trying to save the father of her kids as best she could even at her own expense.
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  251. @ the Feds found nothing. Lol. Karen’s a killer duh
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  252. Yeah me too. They’ve cleared everyone but Karen Read they couldn’t find w cover up. Karen’s guilty. You are correct
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  253. See the comments below from the Karen fans. I’m glad you have common sense. The people below or either not strong enough or smart enough.
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  254. This case is a joke. Lock the whack job up.
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  255. For what ? Being incompetent at trial lol. She is the only one who can be sued and will be sued.
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  256.  @tekarock Yes you can. She’s a killer whether the court of law says so or not. Her own attorneys and family know she did it.
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  257.  @Estate25 that’s what she said. Though there’s 14 different stories. She lied. She also went back to look at her dirty work just after 5am. Cold killer
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  258.  @RonTDB on clothes ? Mate you can bump into someone and have dna on you. A barman a friend whatever.
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  259.  @kathybenes3137 stop the nonsense. He’s lying. Nothing he says is true. It’s making money. Think a little
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  260. She is guilty. You don’t need to be corrupt to know that
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  261. You believe on the Easter bunny. Lol.
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  262. The evidence points to her more then anything else. The FBI have gone through this conspiracy theory. As the charges are still there means they found nothing against the people in the house. The tail lights does it for me. Whether she did this on purpose or not ? Though she’s drunk as a skunk so it’s at least manslaughter. Tail light and even going with the dog scratches theory is laughable. Those are not dog scratches. That’s a car running over him. The only questionable matter on this is the google check of how long it takes for someone to die in freezing weather. When was that search done. Did she see him outside and thought he was drunk and out of it and therefor she searched that? That search isn’t proof of murder at all. What is proof is forensics of his injury’s and her car. If they match up then forget anything else. As for the people out there protesting, seriously let the justice system take its course. I don’t know for sure but it seems as though she is an angry drunken woman who flipped after the drop off and reversed into him then went home. Why on earth does she drive a few hours later without contacting him.
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  263. What i thought was did I hit him hit him or just clip him. Did I tag his knee 😂. Did he drop his phone and I ran over his foot 😅, He didn’t look mortally wounded. Then I left ,. Question- Dennis — so that would have had to been when you dropped him off? Answer- Karen - it would have had to have been yes 😅. What on earth is she saying haha. Was Jackson having a nap 💤 I cannot believe she said that. The accidental confession. Haha. No wonder Hank didn’t gag her. Keep talking Karen.
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  264. Sure they did. You believe in goldilocks ? Lol
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  265. The defence will come up with that one soon. I mean I’m surprised they haven’t gone down the kangaroo theory yet. Karen did it and no one else.
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  266. Yea and in that video there’s nothing falling as you’d see it on top of snow wouldn’t you. That’s bumper to bumper. The pieces are where she smashed johns head in then left him for dead. She also went back to the crime scene to view her dirty work. Wonder if she smiled then ?
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  267.  @lilg2300 FBI? They cleared all occupants of the house. Where you getting you info from? Turtle tv 🥴
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  268.  @estrella5935 what’s dumb ? That’s she’s a cheat? Fact. She went reverse ? Fact. John’s never moving again after 12:32 am 8 seconds after her reverse ? Fact That she’s still unhinged? Fact. She’s the devils daughter. Total psychopath. Her head is going to spin right around Linda Blair style in the next trial. This prosecutor won’t take any yanatti garbage. He will show in a more simple way for the free Karen’s exactly what happened. You do know she admits it in court don’t you? If those interviews are aloud in this time then she’s gone. So many lies. You like she changed her stories don’t you? Or do you just ignore that ? Too much conspiracy tv fools the fools.
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  269.  @maggiebarrettbarrett5684 Pink turtle 😂😂😂 You should get into comedy 🥴
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  270. So when Karen hits the gas and John was next to her 8 seconds earlier in her car, and then his phone does not move. His DNA inside the housing. It’s a brand new car. Her tail light is busted with a gaping hole in it. 5;07am. It shouldn’t be that hard should it. She admits it. That’s after blaming a killer plow.
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  271. Guilty. It’s a simple hit and run. Prosecutor did nothing wrong. The defence did though.
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  272. They are free. Lock them up.
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  273. You knew him and we closer to him than anyone. Also John’s parents.
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  274. That cannot be justice fir John Okeefe and free Karen read. She killed. Justice forJohn. Lock her up
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  275. Yeah as was Jack the Ripper 😅😅😅
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  276. Yeah Karen read
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  277. What if you make up fairy stories. What is Karen fools stupid people ?
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  278. 😂😂😆
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  279. This whole defence and media storm a year ago was that the fact that the defence can prove Jen McCabe googled how long to die in the cold. Well Well Well, we have the person who is the maker of the source of information and he said no way it was done at 2:27. It was done when killer Karen asked for it at 6:23. So the maker would know more than any body. Also the female who was a total phone nerd expert stated exactly the same thing. So that conspiracy was fake just like yanetti Jackson and their client the psychopath Karen read. What a piece of work Karen really is.
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  280. Why change your story then? Why admit it at first and then say oops sorry it wasn’t me. Next she will say it was the one armed man.
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  281. Could have it been the glass in his hand that shattered on impact ?
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  282. @OLEKBamboKaren’s unhinged anger. Karen reversing like a crazy woman. John’s phone never moving 6 seconds after her reversal. Her taillight all over Johns clothes. Karen’s tailight at 5;07am on camera with a busted tailight with a gaping hole in it. Guilty. It’s Impossible that she didn’t do it.
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  283. Exactly. She intended to either scare him as she was unhinged and angry as we heard 5 mins later. She knew she got him. She may have thought he didn’t instantly die but she didn’t stop to check that out did she. She rings 53 times and is starting to panic more at 12:46 when her nightmare is turning into reality. John where are you ? Nobody knows where you are? Lol ok Karen. You know exactly where he is. He ain’t getting up and is not answering.
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  284. Imagine a killer getting away with it. It happens both ways for sure and it’s entirely possible. I’m predicting if it does then a wrongful death suite is coming. She would have to testify then. This could follow the OK trial all the way.
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  285. He said bad words. It’s not even a crime. So dirty ? No. Karen is filthy.
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  286. Cover up lol. Distraction Jackson is a name I heard. Fits perfectly. Looks like the jury weren’t bluffed. Could be guilty coming tomorrow.
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  287.  @lolabear3230 shouldn’t be tolerated anywhere.
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  288. They didn’t actually say that. They also had virtually no evidence at their disposal. Real scientists would say I don’t know and that’s with 99% of evidence. I think the fact his wife was on free Karen read pages gives it away. Karen killed John Okeefe. That’s a fact.
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  289. What if she’s guilty ?
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  290. Karen’s new book will be called. If I hit him if I hit him. He’s dead. If I did it. She is still drunk. True narcissist is Karen.
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  291.  @1e2b9- yeah sure. Feds found nothing but you did. Congrats. Let the FBI know haha. 😊
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  292.  @snowcattish Yeah underneath isn’t going to damage is it. Now the animal theory has left the defence bucket, what’s next. She killed him. She left him for dead. She’s as cold as ice.
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  293.  @mikejones9906 she isn’t normal
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  294.  @Krystal_Kleer the only thing disgusting is that narcissist Karen read who almost killed a man and then let him freeze to death. Nothing else disturbs me in this case. Only killing an innocent man and now she smiles about it. Monster.
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  295. Lol. Was Karen a cop. 😅
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  296.  @Gizmo_the_Pug Of he’s moving away it’s not standing your ground is it. She’s a killer. The laws are ridiculous but yes there’s different laws all over the country. He was unarmed He had never struck her before. She’s got him from behind. Guilty.
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  297.  @RoscoeBear34 haha. Yeah. That garbage is over. Conspiracy tv maybe not. Reality. Real world. Thats a myth.
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  298. Guilty. No doubt 😊
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  299. Well it wasn’t crossing her mind even at 12 but when she slammed him and he went down she would have thought omfg, what have I just done. People panic and leave a hit and run and that’s why it’s called hit and run. She ran. She freaked out. Called him 53 times and prayed he answered. When he didn’t she went back at 5:15 to view her dirty work. Then rings Roberts and states John is dead before hanging up. Then she put on a Betty Davis acting exhibition to try and bluff her way around it and had witnesses there to help. She admitted to hitting him.
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  300. Yes it has. Only conspiracy tv says it hasn’t.
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  301. They both are guilty. Lock them up
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  302. @nickychargreaves false. She knew it was him under the snow from the car. X-ray vision Karen. Lock her up.
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  303. Horse manure. You saw it. Haha. Go look at 5;07. Pause and zoom. A child can do it. Lol
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  304.  @nimue4325  spot on. Im actually watching the Dan Markel case that has had me intrigued since the day he was shot in his drive way. Im from Australia and these trials I watch from America, just amaze me. What I do know is common sense isn’t that common. At times you watch a case and feel it will fall one way or another but often I’m wrong. Juries ? I gather they are intelligent people and law abiding of course. I know that some very intelligent people do not have common sense and aren’t what I call street smart. So it’s a bit of a raffle or lotto on what or which way they think. What you really have to do is look past the quality of a lawyer and go back to the facts. Don’t be stooged. Don’t be swept up by a great defence lawyer or the state’s prosecutor. Go back to the facts. Use your smarts and common sense. This case the Charlie Alderson dentist guy is as guilty as sin but he’s smarter than those on the room and has street smarts. Hopefully the jury in this case go to common sense and realise what happened here. If he doesn’t get found guilty, it will be another case that I’ve watched and just thought, wow, how on earth did they come to that. My county isn’t perfect at all, but more often than not, the right result happens. It’s never fool proof as we know. Innocent people get put away and guilty people walk. America has so many different laws where Australia is federal, not different laws in different states. See what happens with this case. Amazing case of have to say.
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  305. No noise was recorded. Screams. 3 people were asleep.
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  306.  @DoseReality-TWM You can’t make things up. That’s not evidence. John never moved as soon as Karen went pedal down crazy backwards. Simple hit and run.
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  307.  @jbekkers11 who sister ? What are you talking about. They are in the car together when this Google search is done. Roberts has nothing to do with any cops or family’s. She is John’s friend and looks after his kids and helped him regularly. What you are saying isn’t fact. Fact is Karen asked that when doing her Betty Davis routine. That’s acting incase you don’t know what I’m talking about.
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  308.  @Kara55283 Yeah let’s use it. I’ll give 2 explanations. One it’s possible they are or were having affairs? So you want to scrap that and it’s not good enough for you. Me personally if it was me and I’m an officer and I know what this mob can do with your phone, like showing it to America. Let’s make it the world. They are not in charge of this offence so they are witnesses right. I’m smashing my phone as soon as possible too. You’d understand by watching this trial. Jen mcabe is an innocent mother teacher and sports coach who has not done a crime in her life and they the defence somehow start a media frenzy and paid PR campaign that has her goggle how long to die on the cold at 2:27 when all along they actually knew it was done on Karen’s behalf at 6:23. So spread the dirt build the tribe and haters and media frenzy with lies. Dog bites lies. They knew that. Missing shoe? Lies that knew that. Deleted goggle search lies. I’m telling you that knowing what you know now, you will never give your phone in as they change it to what they want it to look like. Jackson is a spinner. He’s an actor. He flips your word into another. Or attempts too. If you aren’t strong up there and stand your ground or are not a good public speaker, he will eat you alive. Just think what Jen Mcabe has gone through with being honest and handing her phone over ,?? She goes through more hell than you could imagine. She has her family threatened. Her house. She cannot watch her kids play sports anymore. She isn’t allowed as she gets called a killer in front of all those kids. Karen read is a hell raiser. It’s pure evil and her defence have gone beyond the ethics of proper law. Yes there are some bad moments on the other side including proctors mouth. Though what he didn’t isn’t actually a crime incase you didn’t know. He didn’t kill anyone. He has been cleared of a cover up by the Feds and that should be enough. Karen is a killer. It’s a very simple hit and run that has grown alien legs.
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  309. She did when she went back to view her dirty work. Still didn’t get help. Wanted witness first.
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  310. He’s a little puppy dog fit Karen. Lying on tap.
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  311. That was a disgrace how that man walked free from shooting a man because he was loud or had popcorn thrown on him. An innocent man was shot to death that night and got away with it. How? No idea. Disgusting jury.
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  312.  @StephanieFlower-d9j Karen was a disgrace and us a disgrace. That wasn’t done in front of a jury was it. Her behaviour in court is arrogant at best. No remorse. She’s so evil that the devil himself would be frightened.
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  313. I Think Stephen king thought up Karen Read in the early 80s while thinking up his horror content for his next movie.
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  314. Karen read had her iTunes connected to her car and this song clicked in at 12:32am when she went hell raiser reverse. Talking heads psycho killer 😂
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  315.  @LisaNH934 Or was it Cliff Richard - devil woman 😎. Eagles - witchy woman 🤔 Probably all 3. Jo jo Zepp and the falcons - hit and run. Foreigner - cold as ice 🧊 Karen Read is truly a monster.
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  316. Spot on
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  317. You’d have to be gullible AF to think she’s innocent.
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  318.  @JennyLouLou yeah Karen swiped him and then let him die.
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  319. So what he’s 10 mins out from coming home. It happened 2 years ago. So what’s the theory defence ? Young son did it. Did he run across the lawn too ? Clutching at straws. Oh you knew each other so you are all guilty of a Cover up? Not one person said she was angry or they argued. That tells me they are being honest. If there was a cover up then witnesses would have said she seemed angry or something was up with her that night. They all said she seemed ok. Problem is they weren’t in the car. It’s like lovers behind closed doors. No one knows what goes on. Probably flipped it on a jealous way. She is a nut job. She also left him to die after slamming him. The defence has thrown the dog theory out as it was never there in the first place. It’s a media show and they want support. So then the sheep follow and keep following. She’s a deadly snake.
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  320. I love Vinnie and his passion. Vinnies question is why would someone kill John. We don’t always get the why and we can only speculate unless the murderer tells us exactly the truth of their thought process in that moment or before hand. I believe 100% Karen killed John. Did she do it on purpose? In one aspect, Not the killing itself. I believe she slammed her car back hard as she snapped over a stupid argument, whether jealousy or whatever or he John may have been not very nice to her when he slammed the door shut and stepped out of that car. So yeah whether she reversed to go off at him verbally and accidentally hit him ? It’s possible. He could have given her the bird and she went nut Job ballistic and tried to hit him and a in her words in text, clipped him? We don’t know. We don’t even know if he crawled a metre before laying on his back with severe concussion and then froze. What we do knuw is, she knew he was there and common sense tells us that. John’s dead is her statement to Carrie Roberts. Then minute later he could be dead and probably got hit by a plough. Umm who says that when their boyfriend doesn’t come up on time lol. She went to the scene before driving to Jenn mcabes. Was it to view her dirty work or to prone to herself that ge hasn’t moved after she swiped him. She rings daddy numerous times early hours. She rings John 53 times and each time she is praying he picks up as her nightmare is getting worse. She didn’t sleep either. She was on her phone all night. The worst thing of all is she could have saved him. That’s why she is a killer.
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  321.  @Fawn218 No. I’m a dog expert. It isn’t close to a dog bite. I haven’t heard any dog expert say it was a dog except one woman. Last worked 1995. She read about the trial half way through she said. Yeah. Reckon she’s a free Karen. She was embarrassing
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  322.  @nikkimclay5474 because she’s a nut job and was hoping it was a bad dream. She hopes he was alive as she wouldn’t be locked up forever. Too little too late Karen. You could have saved him had you reported it straight away. She tried to save her own bacon. Let’s not worry about John. Pure evil
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  323. She’s factually guilty. How can 2 think so differently? You and I? Maybe look again at the evidence. The FBI found no cover up and what, you did ? Lol
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  324. Haha. Has the story changed nick ? No it hasn’t. Haha. Flog. Lying little flog. Who’s more credible ? McNasty Richard Greene I’d Whiffen and Hyde haha. It ain’t Greene. He’s another lying creep. Karen’s stories have changed numerous times. She has 11 different stories on the drop off alone. Nick Rocco is lying through his teeth. Why not be honest and just say it. An innocent person doesn’t change their stories countless times. Guilty. Rocco you goose.
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  325.  @Alextriumph1050 What evidence. The evidence that the defence put forward which was all unfounded. Haha. Yeah ok. I’m no one. I don’t like killers. I don’t like Karen because she is one.
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  326.  @denisemastrostefano277 She mentioned her broken tailight 30 mins before this. Kaylee testified to that. She a fortune teller is she lol. Guilty
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  327. 1/3 of evidence? What was it even worth really ? Lol. Maybe look at all evidence and then make a evaluation or judgment. Ridiculous.
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  328. Poor bloke. Didn’t see it coming. No doubt he knew she was crazy as he said it but there is no way he thought Karen would kill him or almost kill him and then not get help. Instead she let him freeze. Wow.
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  329. Hocus pocus. Karen is a killer. I’m not saying she wanted him dead but she sure did kill him. Cold monster
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  330.  @williamp6800 Billy boy. You know she killed John. Give it up. Stop faking it. Your misses even knows when you fake it. Haha.
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  331. Yeah for sure but I think Charlie had the go in him or the street side to mention it on their family Picnic. Then mum and dad said yep and the other prune Wendy, well she’s as evil as mum. What a twisted family. Charlie has zero chance of getting off. Zilch.
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  332.  @Junebug_InTheHizzy  If people could turn back time. I’m sure the aldersons have been thinking that over the years. This wasn’t like one second of madness, it had time attached to it and for not one of the parents or Wendy to stop, pause and say wtf are we actually doing here, just astounds me.
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  333. True. I mean they could say an alien did it and you’d have to debunk it. It’s a simple hit and run.
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  334. Haters, People hate killers. That is what Karen is. Only a fool would say differently
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  335. Canine DNA. Look it up. It came into science around 30 years ago.
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  336.  @LizInTheB exactly that’s my point.
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  337. Exactly. Total bias comment from this lady. Is there vision of her putting rubbish into bins or did she just go with that as fact ?
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  338. So Karen went back to her crime scene to view her dirty work. Then rings Roberts and says John’s dead. Then hangs up. Then rings back and says he could be dead and probably got hit by a plough 🙄 and people believe her 😂 She then of course knows where John is laying because she rolled him hours earlier and just went back for her viewing. That’s how she Knew it was John when nobody could see squidly nothing. I mean how many cars drove past that house in those 5 or so hours ? Not one car saw a body. So she grabs witnesses, Then she put on a Betty Davis acting exhibition for all to see. I mean how many lies. Now we know she wasn’t sleeping at all. She was on her phone all night. 53 calls. Ringing mummy and daddy in the midnight hours. Where’s her smiling face today ? Story telling narcissistic murderer.
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  339. Matt seems more like a fan boy than a reporter.
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  340. Lol
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  341. I wonder if they hang out with the Adelson family. Karen and Charlie are great story tellers.
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  342. So 45 people are in on it to take down Karen read are they ? And she’s little moss innocent ? Is that your theory
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  343. She wouldn’t. It’s ludicrous. It’s actually comedy that the defence puts this crap up. Next it will be a kangaroo that killed him. Karen is guilty
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  344. The show lost me at the body language expert. They’ve got zero idea. Pure guess work. Then she goes on about Karen read being framed 😂 with what evidence did she see Karen was framed 🥴 She believes Karen when she said she didn’t do it,,.. so does she believe Karen when she says she did do it? Weird people in this world.
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  345. The defence lied. So get to the root of the story. It’s a defence being crooked.
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  346. She’s guilty and anyone with a brain knows that.
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  347. Karen read is a cop killer. She allowed John Okeefe to die slowly. She even took a nap 💤 then woke up and blamed a plow 🥴. Lock the monster up.
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  348.  @edu456 lol. Stop dribbling. It’s comical these posts. Easy of the conspiracy paste
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  349.  @Mamashuge  Yes it’s suspicious for sure, but that just makes him a serious suspect in this case. It looks like he’s involved and smells like it, but that isn’t enough. Aeroplane mode, what’s that prove? Nothing really. It just shines the light on him a lot more. They have to tie him to the remains site with either a vehicle or accomplice, or have some sort of evidence in her bones with tranc that he supposedly used or just traces of something there. Cause of death means nothing in regards to connecting him unless it’s a gun or tranc or something that leads back to him. The fact there’s DNA of another on her bike and in her helmet, just leaves so much doubt.
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  350. For what ?
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  351.  @cyndifromVA yeah ok🤪🤪
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  352.  @QueenFrostie Well maybe he’s passionate and has feelings. After what she’s done from start to finish, I’m passionate about her too. I hate her. Kills a man slowly. Takes a nap in between. Blames a plow. Gathered witnesses and then turned on them. Pretended to have a brain tumour as we heard in the first hearing. Admitted guilty but said there was no criminal intent. Said she loved that man Then along came the conspiracy theory’s one by one. All ludicrous. Sold her stories and worked with YouTubers go along with misinformation even before a trial starts. Taint the public taint the jury. Threaten witnesses. Well this bloke said it straight out. If he hates her then tell us. He did. Honesty. Instead Karen opens her mouth and a lie is coming out of it. Would you rather lies or the truth.
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  353.  @francesca6301 Well said. Exactly what I think when I see McAblerts. It’s like you are talking to 8 year olds. Anyone say anything negative about Karen and they are onto me. Well I am not stopping defending the innocent people like Jen Mcabe. Imagine still going with the how long. It was Karen who forced Jen to search it. Asked an ambulance man 10 mins later. Karen read is a monster.
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  354. For all these people waffling on about what she said or didn’t say. Most of us are not killers. Most of is are not unhinged crazy people. The most damning thing in all this, Is the statement to Kerrie Roberts. 5am. John’s dead Click. Hangs up. Minute later, John could be dead and probably got hit by a plough. Put the shackles on her please.
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  355. Karen did it.
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  356.  @cmd76323 who does like a bloke who harasses women children and the family of the victim. He’s not close to a man.
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  357.  @keiththoma2559 people act as though this is evidence. Not Karen telling John she f—ing hates him. Not her tailight in his clothes at the scene. Not her reversal like a crazy drunk woman. Lol. There’s so much evidence against Karen that the free Karen’s have to imagine dog bites or scuffles at a bar.
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  358.  @ByronTexas  there’s fractures. What are you on about. She’s as guilty as sin. All evidence points to her. You get black eyes on many ways. It can be nose or skull. His hair is in on the bumper. Her tail light is all over him. The drinking glass on her bumper. She’s gone.
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  359.  @ByronTexas  most aren’t done by reverse. She is drunk. She probably taps him in reverse then goes again and smacks his head and arm. She’s a killer. Her car was her weapon. Get over it.
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  360. Well Karen Read is not normal. That’s why she killed a msn.
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  361.  @stephenschemm2584 As I’ve sayid all along. A child could tell you she’s guilty. Yet we have grown adults saying she’s framed lol. That’s with zero evidence. Conspiracy hunters. All roads lead to Karen. She’s was a cheat. She was jealous and she got angry and upset easily. She 100% killed John Okeefe. Poor guy was a great soul and was left for dead by unhinged Karen. Blames plows 🙄. How anyone could believe she is innocent is astounding and not a great look for modern humans.
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  362.  @crimeshaveconsequences4268  Half way through a trial and one that is as high profile as this? No. She said she put herself into this case and Jackson said otherwise. This is bogus. 1995. Canine DNA hadn’t evolved as yet so she’s way over her head. She isn’t a specialist on dog bites. This is fairy land stuff. To be honest she’s that bad the defence are better off without her. Jackson spins stories like he’s acting in Hollywood. Master manipulator. Similar to his client. I doubt he’s a psychopath though. Karen is a hell raiser.
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  363. Crazy Karen
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  364.  @rosecurran6687 I know. What’s with these people. Clutching at straws like the defence. She’s guilty. Karen is a cold blooded killer
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  365. Karen OJ Read is guilty.
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  366.  @Kwisatz_HaderachXIII simple common sense. She admitted it and knew where he was under a pile of snow. Said he was dead an hour beforehand.
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  367. Her phone doesn’t lie. Either does the video of them going to the house. Either does the conditions that morning. I think you are clutching. Karen is as evil as it gets.
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  368. Karen’s arrogance is astounding. The devil herself parades around like she’s some icon. She’s a demon is what she is. The fire is coming Karen.
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  369. Have you been asleep ? It’s in writing.
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  370. Lol. Wow. You saw this didn’t you. Karen stop drinking and typing
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  371. There’s one narcissist in that room. It’s the killer that smiles away on front of the victims family. It’s the one that spin doctors the media. She’s pathetic
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  372. Agree. You focus on the DNA johns DNA on the inside of the housing of the tail light. That’s huge. Add to that the crazy fast reverse and his phone not moving thereafter. That’s hodge. Especially focus on the tail light housing. It’s a Sealed tail light and a brand new car. His FNA can only get there if it comes into contact when it breaks. That’s the case. Right there.
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  373. How did your tail light get busted ? You saw it. I backed into johns car haha. 20 mins before that she said on the phone in front of Kaylee that her tail light is busted. 🤔🤔🤔 wow Karen. You are incredible lol. You can say something before it happens 😆😆😆. 14 mins after the incident, John where are you ? Nobody knows where you are ? What? Karen, didn’t you just drop him off 14 minute ago? There’s a blizzard? Where else would he be? Going for a midnight jog 😂. Hilarious stuff. John you are setting me up to fail 12 hours earlier. When obsessively calling John and all he wanted was for her to stop. Just like he wanted her to stop from swiping him. Karen you set yourself up then blamed the world. Victim blaming Karen. It was an accident your honour. She didn’t think she m hit him that hard. She loved that man your honour. 12:37. John I f—-g hate you. True love there folks.
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  374. So cops killing a persons and throwing them on their lawn makes sense does it ? Karen didn’t plan to kill John that night in that moment in that place. She lost her marbles for an instance for whatever reason and panicked. She could have gotten help and he could have been saved. She chose to flee instead. Hours later she rings Ms Roberts and says John is dead. Then later said a plough hot him ? She knew where John was and was trying to cover her tracks. She knew exactly where to go in the dark of night in a blizzard and amazingly knew it was John while still sitting in the car. Karen is Guilty
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  375.  @MariaM-up2he No. I’m just a man who dislikes killers. That ok with you?
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  376. She wouldn’t have phoned Roberts and said he was dead if she didn’t know she got him. She’s lied constantly through that day and there after. She’s a killer.
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  377. Accidentally on purpose
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  378. After the court said it wasn’t needed. He held onto it the 4 months lol. So Karen’s ok factory resetting 2 phones and not given out any pass words ? Normal behaviour for an innocent person is it?
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  379. Crap. Karen’s is a killer. The family need Justice
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  380. Totally. Karen is pure evil 👿
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  381. Watch the evidence. There photos of the car and John. Guilty.
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  382. So many half days and days off. Ridiculous
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  383. Karen OJ Read. They are both equally guilty.
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  384. He sat next to Karen’s sister and was shaking his head during the trial. He’s just a dumb kid that follows the defendant
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  385. Karen Read is full of it. She mentioned at one stage she was so drunk she didn’t remember anything. She mentions twice I got him a hit him. She says they pulverised him against her tail light 😂 what and then she went home and had a nap for a few hours and then come neck to pick him up from the snow🙄 What did Ben chew say, did he say she’s got sassy and she’s like the chick off my cousin Vinny. Umm no she isn’t. For one, lisa was hot and truthful. Karen Read is not that. How’s in the court room, you see this blonde woman shaking her head at every stage and looks to be a number 1 fan of this killer. Hopefully she isn’t aloud at trial to have body language like that. Karen Read is a manipulative woman and a narcissist. Her lawyer looks like he’s from the same breed. She’s a killer. Hopefully the jury look at the evidence and put this witch away.
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  386. Poor John didn’t even get to the house to get into trouble. His girlfriend made sure of that.
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  387.  @snowcattish Well you sound like an expert, so what was it then ? We can rule out animals now, so what’s the next theory ?
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  388. In a nut shell the prosecution was saying age hit him. 3 different charges stem from that. The defence said no she didn’t hit him and that he was killed by an evil house and an evil dog lol
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  389. Bugsy has just had his seal sealed 😂. You should be a detective with the clever brain storming thoughts you have 🤔
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  390. Totally guilty. Totally evil.
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  391. She didn’t sleep. Another lie. Around 70 phone calls and many texts so how’s she sleeping ?
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  392.  @WillyD1 She did kill him. admitted it too. The lied so many times I reckon she’s lost count herself.
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  393. Karen went back to look at her dirty work. Just as I suspected all along. Monster
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  394. What you think matters little. The proof showed his innocence. It was as plain as day. She killed herself. The evidence showed that.
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  395.  @Swt5ihrok haha. Probably
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  396. That’s the million dollar question. Definitely guilty but will she be found guilty?
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  397. No she swiped him and he became unconscious. Then she left him there for hours. Guilty. She’s a cheater too. Lovely woman 😆
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  398. because they know she killed the poor bloke. She’s a killer and deserves to be locked away.
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  399. Definitely
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  400.  @TomPaschal-j3l  how many cats drove by in 4 hours? They did t see anything. Plow driver. Saw nothing. It was in a dark area. Karen sure did a good job on pour John. Failed to get help. Said he’s dead. Blames plows but doesn’t call 911. Wow. Monster
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  401. Lol. How did you get likes for that comment. Sheep must have their fingers ready.
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  402.  @alicencosgrove5533 before the car gets to the scene. How’s that possible? Karen is a killer.
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  403.  @eammbutler1323 😅😅😂
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  404. This woman interviewed just made things up. She hadn’t watched the trial judging by her statement just now. Terrible reporting
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  405. Teeth marks? Without DNA. Stop dribbling.
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  406. Jackson has fled 😂. He isn’t a dummy. He doesn’t like losing. Coming out of it with a draw was a bonus to him. Keeps his good record going. Not sure he had many more made up conspiracies up his sleeve. He’s out of bullets there.
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  407. Hopefully you are never on a jury.
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  408.  @LeannaMurphy-mx7zy a kid would know Karen killed John. Adults are losing their bearings. GPS coordinates have John with Karen until he steps out that car and within 8 seconds John never moved again. It’s not rocket science. Her tailight is busted at 5;07am. It’s all over the crime scene. Guilty. No brainer. She’s blaming plows 😂
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  409.  @coopmilieu7188 👽👽👽 defence with no evidence. Says inconsistent. Did not say it didn’t happen. Move on. Stop twisting facts
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  410.  @silversmoke6 Who told you this ? Lol. Turtle 🐢
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  411. No. That’s the free Karen freaks.
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  412.  @Tamara-id1pe John Okeefe was hit by Karen’s car. The tech stream shows a pedestrian strike or consistency with one. She stopped reversing John stopped moving. 6 second difference
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  413. We see the tailight haha. Take your pic It’s busted. Clearly busted at 5 am.
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  414. He’s fighting a losing battle. Turtle is toast.
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  415.  @NelLopez-jc3jp Evie he makes Karen guilty. GPS vehicle data DNA is science. Guilty
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  416. Comedy. Guilty. Stay of conspiracy tv. There’s zero evidence of what you say.
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  417. Because she’s a scapegoat. End of story.
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  418. Definitely guilty. The Ice woman.
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  419. It doesn’t matter what eye witness thinks. There’s footage of her car. Busted light with a gaping hole in it. Who cares who cares what someone saw while it’s covered in snow hours later. He said a piece was missing.
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  420.  @Maureen-q6w who told you that? Ease off the conspiracy tv. It rots the brain.
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  421.  @KittenFireDepartment stop he nonsense. She knew he was dead because she caused it. Open up your common sense.
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  422. That’s your assumption and you ate entirely entitled to that. I’ll go the other way and have huge doubts she knew anything at all.
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  423. Guilty. No brainer
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  424.  @countrygirl5579 garbage.
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  425. She is guilty. Stevie wonder can see that.
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  426. Sue from England so what you are saying about a dentist appointment is like saying,, oh I’ve got tickets to AC/DC so it’s impossible to commit suicide before the concert? It’s ok if I did it after the concert but since it was days before, then someone must have killed me? 🙄 give me a spell please
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  427. She went in the morning. She was seen in the morning. He wasn’t with her. 🙄
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  428. She was going to jail anyway. Probably for 20 years instead of life though. Yep she’s a killer as they all are but if a man wants a woman to fight for him, then he at least picked that part of her ok. Just a shame she loaded him up to commit a murder as Money can be evil.
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  429. Karen’s a natural born liar. People who cheat in their own boyfriends front yard is not the greatest human of all time. Karen the plow killed my boyfriend. That was after the waterfall lie didn’t work. Lies lies lies. Karen you know you did it. He didn’t look mortally wounded remember. Guilty. Throw away the key.
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  430.  @LittleMissStamper guilty little miss.
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  431.  @KaitlynJaney what are you on about? Are you saying health data is more reliable than GPS ? Lol. Ones built for the military and i can tell you it ain’t health data 🙄 that’s actually hilarious. All data combined should be looked at. GPS is the most bullet proof of all. Like I said it’s built for military purposes meaning war and combat. My phone tell me I walk up stairs regularly and o never do. It also can say or calculate things while you are in a car that are completely wrong. John wasn’t walking up stairs before he put the Andrews in was he? 34 Fairview lol. Did he get there and then put the address in while inside 🤔. He is half a mile away. His phone doesn’t move seconds after Karen’s crazy reversal. Make if they what you will. It’s fact. Jen MCabe made the Google search at 6:23 when Karen demanded it. Fact. Karen also asked an ambulance man 10 mins later when she pretended that she was going to lull herself. Walked out of hospital a few hours later. Heath data. You people are hilarious.
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  432. You need help.
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  433. This bloke lucky was with the free Karen Read group taking photos. His changed stories multiple times. He’s lied half as much as Karen read.
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  434. Incorrect. 2 cops did. One was undercover and virtually had to. There’s still data from the phone. What’s it matter. John didn’t move after the crazy reverse. He didn’t go in. It stayed there till John was found and low and behold. The phone is right where he lay. So he didn’t move. I’ll make it simple for you. John’s DNA was inside the housing of the tail light. A drakes tail light. A brand new car. Think about it. It had to be broken with a part of him inside that tail light. It’s very simple.
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  435.  @James_Doyle83 100%. She’s as cold as ice.
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  436.  @Jill199 exactly.
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  437.  @CarmenHughes-ox1cm talking about Karen Read incase you missed the boat somewhere between the ears of yours. Fitting what narrative 🥴. Karen read admitted it and also in court days later. So if you are on the same page of discussion then I’d have to say wtf are you going on about. Fitting narratives ? It’s court documents. If you are talking about another case entirely then I suggest you read again and then think before you comment
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  438. So what ? OCD and loves his lawn. What’s that got to do with Karen read bowling him over and letting him freeze to death ? It has zero to do with the case.
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  439. None worse than Karen herself.
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  440. Vinnie is a legend.
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  441. Yeah by Karen’s automobile. She could have saved his life even after her Nutter brain fade. She chose to leave him there to die. That’s cold.
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  442. Guilty.
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  443. It’s there before the snow. Come on. Think about it. The timing and when it snowed.
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  444.  @Princelover-ip4gn Do your math too. It helps. How much evidence was looked at before giving an opinion? Around 30% lol. Think logically. 😊
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  445. That is why Karen Reads story changes numerous times.
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  446. Totally
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  447. Cliff Richard sang a song about Karen read many years ago. She’s just a devil woman with evil on her mind, beware the devil woman, she’s gunna get you from behind. What a total narcissist she is. Dangerously Scary
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  448. Bud and Karen read should get together and discuss their driving skills under the influence and when angry.
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  449. Dog 😂😂😂.
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  450.  @michellejames5953  also speaking about his son and saying he could have done it. What’s that? He wasn’t within a bulls roar at the time of death. Next you’ll say he killed Emily’s mother in that car accident too. Emily had trauma. She killed herself. He also had trauma and much more than you would know about. Finding his son in the trees. No wonder he didn’t want to go searching for his wife. Anyways I think you are out of line. You aren’t alone.
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  451.  @kimberlychelen9890 Yes you are strange. You outside court in your pink clothes? Or wearing your turtle shell ?? She admitted it in court or have you forgotten about that. It was an accident. I didn’t hit him that hard ? What’s that mean ? Didn’t hit him that hard? Lol. It means she hit him but believes it wasn’t that hard and she thought he would be ok. Duh.
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  452. Ummm no. She’s the one.
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  453. No animal DNA. Why are people still going with this? The defence have dropped that theory as it was a bad one.
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  454. I get that but isn’t it the same as he’s given a stunt car and he’s told to brake at let’s say a line in 300 metres and he gets in and does what he is supposed to and the brakes gave way and he couldn’t stop and kills a camera man set up further back, is he or should he be liable ? What if the brake was good as he pressed it then but the 2nd time they didn’t work? Is he liable or at fault ? I’mNot sure he is but maybe that’s me.
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  455. Karen lies so many times. I’ve lost count.
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  456.  @nimue4325  totally agree with you.
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  457.  @dman1177 guilty. Liar.
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  458. Are you serious ? You are talking about the mother of the victim who’s dead. Why don’t you focus on the smiling assassin Karen read.
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  459.  @JRM1790 exactly
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  460. Karen is as cold as the ice of that fateful morning. Is there a more twisted female in America right now than Karen killer Read ? If there is I’d hate to cross paths with her.
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  461. Deadly women. Starring Karen the drunk.
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  462. I see sheep. They’re everywhere.
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  463. Guilty. Her cute innocent look doesn’t fool me.
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  464.  @Michbeachlover I couldn’t say it any better than that. Beach lover is spot on.
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  465. It wasn’t done then. Karen forces that search at 6;23. Proven.
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  466. Karen the tornado. She is not human or even close
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  467.  @kelseymariel2127 Him and family ? Well he should know better. The people he harassed and the women and kids he harassed had nothing to do with that. So what are you on about?
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  468. Photos? Chain of custody lol. You can see it at 5;07am on repeat. There’s a gaping hole 😂
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  469. Did you say possibly framed ? You said before that, she’s 100 % innocent. So what is it? Is it possibly framed, because if she wasn’t framed, she killed him.
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  470. Vinnie has turned bone head. Flew over to the dark side. Maybe he was there all along but I didn’t notice.
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  471.  @jendee1260 You ok? Lol. Her car has a gaping hole in the tail light at 5;07am. A football fits in it. It’s busted. Pause zoom. 8 year olds can do it. 😂🥴🥴🙄😆 That means unless you believe in Time Machines, there isn’t a reason to cover it up and it’s impossible. Her tail light is already damaged. Duh. Why are all you people not using a very small part of your thinking ? She’s blaming ploughs 😅. As you do. Killer ploughs hey. She admitted it at the scene. She admitted it in court. Next you’ll say she never lied when it’s proven she did many times. Phone calls. She said she waits 10 mins and kept ringing texting while waiting out front. Lol. Well that was a lie to Cover another lie. Bang she’s caught out. No phone calls until she reversed like a psychopath and leaves in a hurry. Did I incapacitate him unwillingly and in his drunkenness he passed out 😂😂😂. Stop your nonsense. Learn to read data and evidence and stop watching too much of the conspiracy garbage on YouTube. No Google search of what was said at what time. Until Karen read demands it at 6:23. No John getting inside the house. Factually proven by GPS coordinates. So who did it ? Frosty the snow man lol. John’s DNA is inside the housing of the tailight. It was unbroken before it broke yeah? It’s a brand new car. Think.
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  472.  @ILoveDogs1970 who said no way? It’s inconsistent means no way ? Lol. 1/3 of all evidence to make a full 100% evaluation?! After all it’s an opinion isn’t it? Yep let’s do 33% and say what we reckon. 🥴. You wouldn’t trust the city plumber with that. Do the math.
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  473.  @tirdadderakhshani1940 what are you on about? He’s about the only one that talks on facts. The others talk in riddles. Fairy tales. I’m not sure how anyone can even suggest that John was beaten on a house when GPS says he factually didn’t go in any house. Karen didn’t let him. Poor bloke just wanted to drink with a group and instead he’s stuck with this cheating unhinged jealous woman, who snapped like a biscuit.
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  474. Haha. Hilarious. Is this a magic dog that leaves no hair or DNA. Lol. Stop it.
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  475. Yes though either did his truck.. fair way to carry someone. Wait for the evidence I suppose. I’ll keep an open mind until I see the full evidence.
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  476. And you call yourself truth. Maybe do your homework. She’s guilty.
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  477.  @terrieosborne3907 says who? The defence. You can’t go back now. It’s done and dusted. Karen deserves no mercy.
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  478. So they wait 6 months haha. He never went in the house. Phone proves it. Talking about a house any house is like ? I mean why ?
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  479.  @nicenessispriceless2681 Karen is that you ? Or is it the girl in the pet cemetery that’s in the upstairs room?
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  480. Exactly
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  481. They looked at around 10% of the evidence. They said it’s inconsistent. It’s virtually irrelevant unless they have an opinion after all evidence is seen
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  482. Like Jack the Ripper
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  483. Nothing was deleted. That was proven last trial. Didn’t you take notice. Free Karen’s don’t look.
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  484. Don’t feel sorry for her. She’s a killer.
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  485. Why is she going nuts ? I mean she said John was at a sleep over to Kaylee. Let’s not forget she will be on the stand and she wants justice for John. Are you going to say she is in on a conspiracy too ? Seriously.
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  486. Guilty 100%.
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  487. No, she wanted him to answer as her nightmare was getting bigger every time he didn’t answer. She knew she hit him. That’s why she rang Roberts and stated johns dead before hanging up. Then rings again and said he could be dead and probably got hit by a plough. Common sense folks.
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  488. Says who? What evidence did those why judges have at their disposal? Oh 1/3 of evidence lol. Guilty.
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  489. Shocking. Lost respect for him totally. Instead of being unbiased he wants to known as a good guy to the fan club around the court house.
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  490.  @iamerika1937 follow your own advice. A child would know she did it. Wake up
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  491. Melanie little ? Haha. She lies daily.
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  492. Yeah everyone has been cleared except one person they couldn’t clear. She’s on trial. No cover up was found. It shouldn’t be too hard to work out. She killed him. She admitted it too
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  493. She’s a crazy psychopath. Killers sometimes walk. She isn’t locked up yet so who knows.
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  494. What has he lied about ? Lol. So he’s put ten minutes when he got home which was 2 years ago? Is that a blatant lie is it? What does it actually matter to this case ? Zero affect on the facts here. Why has Karen had 4 different scenarios on what happened ? Or 5 if you believe that she saw or knew that 2 men pulverised him that night? Which of her stories are correct ? Remember she said she didn’t drop him off at one stage? One scenario is she say out front for 10 mins and saw him go inside ? The other one was she was too drunk too remember. Which one of those is correct ? Why is glass in her bumper? Why admit you hit him twice ? Lol. Yeah he’s lying haha. Seriously the fan club have issues here.
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  495. Karen read the smiling Assassin She is the new OJ and will write a book titled, if I hit him 😂
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  496. Don’t believe everything you hear. Wait till the trial. The defence are trying to put shadows on everything and virtually none of it is factual.
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  497.  @Joh605 why is it foolish ? Turtle harassed witnesses and many of the Karen pink crows made threats. Also threatened family members too. Wake up
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  498. 6:30 more like it. Great story though. Sound like the defence
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  499.  @corrinnajordan2749 as I watched the trial. She admitted it in court and says it was an accident. She also texted that she felt she didn’t hit him that hard. Fact.
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  500. In the dark with no lights ? Oh ok. You and Karen read then lol.
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  501. Perfectly said Betty. I have only watched a bit of this here in Australia just today and I’m in shock. To think one minute this man goes on what he thinks is a nice date, and the next, he is getting bushed and mercilessly killed for no reason whatsoever. So sad
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  502. Someone who actually knows. The defence are pathetically trying to throw anything they can up. It’s beyond a joke. Karen is guilty.
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  503. The end is nigh Karen. Wonder what that other women will think of you in prison.
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  504.  @Katie.11.11 lol Dog bites ?
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  505.  @annemerritt3722 see an eye doctor. Karen is atrocious on her good day.
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  506.  @abbydoss4967 You kidding ? So much icing. Enough to make 400 cakes. She’s seriously unattractive. Looks like the women off Pet Sematary. You know the sister upstairs. Skeleton lady. Google it. You’ll see Karen 😎
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  507.  @burcugriffin5501 They can prove a lot more than that. Oh that was one of Karen’s mini lies yeah? 4 drinks she stated she had. Maybe double that!! Karen lied so many times I’ve lost count. The data is damning and so are her actions before and after. Definitely guilty.
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  508. But added to that is she failed to help or get help so it is tricky isn’t it. I mean she knew he was dead or near death as she told Carrie Roberts at 5am. That’s why the defence didn’t even ask her a question. They wanted her out of there as she was not gunna lie or food for anyone. Out of all she was John’s better friend there. Minded his children. Also Jen McCabe helped John. Dropped the kids off to sport picked them up. Her kids were friends with his niece and nephew. Karen is the killer. It’s quite simple.
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  509. I have news for you. She did. She admitted it. Said there was no criminal intent. Said in texts that she didn’t think she hit him that hard. Lol. How hard is hard ?
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  510. How could he plant the evidence without a Time Machine ? Are you saying the search team are in on it too are you ?
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  511. There could be video of Karen doing it and they’d all said oh no it didn’t happen.
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  512. Vinnie went to the dark side a while back. Hasn’t got the balls to be honest about Karen read. Keep the conspiracy crowd happy is what matters. Like many of these YouTube shows. Only real people speak honestly about this case.
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  513.  @leanndoolin4284 Stop the nonsense
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  514.  @leanndoolin4284 So what if it shows her going back to John’s body and hanging around for a few minutes at around 5:23 am? What is your excuse going to be then? What if it shows her tailight was broken at 12:32am at the ending of her reversal at 34 Fairview? What conspiracy are we going eiyh then? I can tell you there will be new conspiracy theories made up. There’s money to be made. These shows need clicks. It’s income. As soon as Karen read is over then so is the money. I’m asking you, what excuse are you going to make of the data shows this?
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  515.  @GPDogDrool No idea what you are spinning. Missing video ? What video? The one Karen talks about ? It’s motion camera the library one and she’s still talking about 12:37 to 12:39. What for ? We know she’s hooked onto John’s wifi at 12:36am. Inverted video. Who gives It’s not as though it’s different pictures. It’s not alien videos. It’s a 1989 system or there about that hasn’t be upgraded in 30 plus years. Who cares about the video. It’s like a smoke em screen from the facts. Lares tailight is busted with a gaping hole in it at 5;07 am. So 12 hours earlier. Proctor break into johns garage at 3am did he 🤠. Yeah sure. No cops chased Karen from her psycho reversal 12:32am to 12:36am when she’s at John’s. Then she puts her car away in his garage. Kaylee testified to Karen mentioning her busted tailight at 4:48am. So before she’s reversed out. Do we know it happened before then. It happened at 12:32am. Why she reversing 24 mile an hour? That normal to you is it? Why she psycho angry at 12:37am ? That’s her 5th call in 3 minutes by the way. She left no voicemail on the 4 prior calls. You still haven’t explained the plow. Which girlfriend in the history of girlfriends they thinks their man is cheating or suspects this says her boyfriend is dead instead of cheating and not only is he dead but a plow killed him. That’s like a billion to 1. More people die from lightning strikes then plows. Then low and behold John happens to be mortally wounded in the snow 🥹 wow Karen. That’s amazing. Then she is the one to find him when no one can see anything. Not even lucky the plow driver who’s high up and has spot lights. He doesn’t see a body but the bionic women Karen read can. Do you know how ridiculous it sounds. You do. You aren’t stupid. The plow. Seriously There’s no getting around her actions and the evidence.
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  516. There’s nothing to explain. It wasn’t a magic of dog without canine DNA or hair or bottom jaw. Do your homework before putting posts up that make you look ridiculously bad.
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  517.  @GPDogDrool the only wasted space is with you upstairs. Karen did it and that’s a fact. Don’t be naive
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  518. Dog bites lol. Without a bottom jaw. This magic dog has no DNA. What’s it a cartoon dog ? Scooby doo maybe ? Lol
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  519. @BarbShenaniganskithat dog would have to be the smallest puppy of all time. Like ray size. Dogs mouths are wet. Soaking wet. It’s grade 3 stuff. No DNA means no dog. It’s simple barg. Stop listening to lies and getting fooled by them.
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  520. @BarbShenaniganskiYeah right. No DNA means no doggy. The Breath of a dog holds DNA. Theresa more moisture in their mouths the. Humans. It’s ridiculous. Laughable. Actually a joke. That dog lady was a mess. There is no dog involved and not any other animal either. The pug was bacon or pork. Again common sense. Use it. Stop blaming dogs. Bugs bunny will be next in the list. Karen the killer admitted it. Why? Because she did it. Duhh.
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  521. All you people should apologise to Jen. Pathetic
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  522. Karen read is a psychopathic narcissist. Dangerous woman.
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  523.  @rico8256 They had 1/3 of the evidence. You cannot make a judgement without looking at all the evidence. I’m sure you understand that.
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  524. Amazing how Vinnie said the nan had intuition.. he’s correct. He would never say John Okeefes mother had intuition would he. The cult would be upset and Vinnie Grifts a little. I’ll say it. I’ve said it before. A mother knows best. A grandmother knows best. Mothers and grandmothers have a natural born gift. They know when someone has hurt their child. They just know.
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  525. He’s like chucky with a beard. Hi my names alan, wanna play. Karen is chuckys bride. Twisted pairing.
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  526. Spot on
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  527. Where? YouTube tell you that lol
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  528. Guilty
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  529. Do you honestly think this would be a trial if they cannot easily squash this myth ? Wait till the expert speaks and then maybe things will be explained for all these Karen lovers Clearly.
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  530.  @notsorryyouretriggered I have a great theory. Karen killed John. Open and shut.
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  531. You must be kidding. They actually know who did it. They don’t get blinded by the bluff like others
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  532. Do you say that to the 59 shows that show bias for Karen read or is it only upsetting you when it’s against Karen read? As I haven’t heard you complain about the bias for her ?
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  533. Why ? You still in fairy land with the 2:27 search. It didn’t happen. It was made up by the defence. That’s as dirty as it gets.
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  534.  @Jammn126 She’s a busy body. The woman why’s had threats to her life. The woman that cannot even see her children play sport anymore as the other kids were scared with the turtle saga. Yeah if I was her I’d be busy belting up Mr tadpole. I’d be busy getting my litigation against many channels and especially Mr Greene who made some serious mistakes and all he’s done so far is apologise.
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  535. Definitely
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  536.  @QueenFrostie Oh wow. This is the Karen free groupie talk 😅. Weird people. I’ve seen your lot holding signs 🥹🥹🥹.
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  537. Karen is truly sick and twisted
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  538.  @jewels07 No he’s walked.
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  539. It better come in.
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  540.  @MaureenODonovan agree
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  541. Feds say you’re wrong.
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  542. Evil Karen is arrogance personified. Straight to the the lock up with Bryan kolberger
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  543. I think this is all a farce. Karen’s guilty and court tv knows this as they have brains behind the desks. That Matt bloke needs sorting out though. Allowing fan boys of Karen read to report on the case is not on.
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  544. Killer
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  545.  @ByronTexas  How does his hair get on her bumper ? How does her tail light get on his clothes ? How does the wine glass he’s holding get shattered at the drop off point??? How does that glass get into her bumper ? Why has she admitted hitting him twice. Why has she then changed her story numerous times. Once you can answer them for me I’ll come back to you.
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  546. No the family or ex husband cannot. It has nothing to do with them. It’s a last name and there’s no law on what your last name should be.
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  547. It was done after 6. Experts who built he site will tell all. Defence is going with a myth.
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  548.  @gmimi2  Firstly that’s what’s wrong with your laws. Secondly the cinema stipulated in the doorway and in the opening of the actual cinema room, that no weapons were allowed, meaning prohibited. So he broke a law to start with. Did you watch the trial or 30 min of court tv?
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  549. They freaked.
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  550.  @Kimba663 no one saw her hit him. Though we know she’s unhinged. We know she’s angry as a woman gets at 12:37am. We know she reversed like a psycho at 12:32am. We know John didn’t move after this so at 12:32am John doesn’t move again. We know GPS never puts John in any house. We know Karen says John is dead at 5am. We know she says John is dead and a plow did it at 5:20am. We know she used her X-ray vision at 6am to find John. Only she found John. Nobody saw John but Karen did. So she knew where he was. Guilty. 😊
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  551.  @Kimba663 Yes up down a driveway. John was on the other side of the property. The neighbours didn’t see him either. Across the street. Cars driving by. No one. Only Karen. She’s guilty
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  552.  @tracypotter7169 Narcissistic traits. Many killers have them. She snaps like a biscuit as we heard in her voicemails the day before and reading her texts. Definitely unhinged.
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  553.  @joehurt9281 I see the opposite. Guilty 100 times over. A child with logic could see this.
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  554. So she hit him then left him to die and they’d not her fault ?
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  555.  @jeanmariesmith1224 maybe because he was in ice straightaway. Definitely swelling around that elbow. Guilty. She knew it was him when covered in snow. You could hardly see. So guilty.
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  556.  @jeanmariesmith1224 are they the experts that didn’t have all the evidence as the defence gave them what they wanted ? Guilty. Lock her up
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  557. No accident is the same. Ever. It’s as simple as that.
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  558.  @notsorryyouretriggered lol.
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  559.  @BlueWolf-tg1bf experts with 1/3 of all evidence. Yeah ok.
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  560.  @CurlyhairJ she’s so cold it’s frightening
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  561. She lost the plot. Just a nut job. Not all nut job drunken women go that far but this one did. Now she wants the OJ trial and blame the cops and whoever else is in her way.
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  562.  @notsorryyouretriggered It’s possible she will be found not guilty. Anything’s possible. Karma will get her one way or another.
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  563.  @Gringa_L did anyone hear anything outside a house thst night? Anyone come out ? That’s no evidence lol.
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  564.  @Rossi4040 pizza. Watch the trial properly next time . How dumb
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  565. Is that why turtle has been charged ? Ok
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  566.  @Michiganmegs I’ve looked further and know what’s coming.
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  567. So where’s the evidence from the bins ? I’m sure they checked them? You can have a theory and yeah it all fits well but unless there’s proper evidence, this case is going nowhere.
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  568.  @emoliver80  don’t make up fairy stories because it fits your narrative. Spark facts not guess work.
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  569.  @RonTDB Her admitted it 4 times. Her going with her attorney yanetti and saying it was an accident and she didn’t think she hit him that hard. There’s a start lol. Damning. Her tail light pieces were at the scene and in johns clothes. His DNA in her tail light. John’s phone didn’t move seconds after she reversed at serious speed out front of 34 Fairview. She told Kaylee johns niece at 4:30 am that she’s done something bad. Then states John could have been hit by a plough. 5am she rings Roberts and stated John is dead then hangs up. She or Roberts rings again minutes later and Karen said John could be dead and probably got hit by a plough. Her phone suspiciously goes around 34 Fairview at around 5:20 ish and that’s where John was laying. That’s her last phone voicemail to John. I think she might say is that you? That’s up for debate. She puts on a Betty Davis acting exhibition once she’s grabbed the 2 witnesses she needs back at the scene. Before anyone could see John or a body, Karen tells kerry to stop there’s John. So she knew exactly where the body was. These defence myths of a cover up are exactly that. Myths. The Google search was done at 6:23 so Jen was being truthful. That’s when Karen demanded it be searched. Why is she asking it to be searched if she has no idea what time John was there from ? He could be there 5 mins. So asking how long to me shows she knew when John was incapacitated there. Why didn’t she demand what happened at the scene and bang that door down ? Because Jen was there and knew she didn’t come in. Karen is a smart lady. No such thing as a perfect crime, especially if it was on impulse. She didn’t plan it before hand. She may have just wanted to scare John with her crazy reverse? We will never know. There’s a stack more. Lastly. In texts to turtle boy she has stated to him that she could have clipped him but it’s just a clip.
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  570.  @SJSummers01 You into Jethro Tull ? He had a great album in the 70s called thick as a brick. Rabid dog 🥴 I trained pig hunting dogs for 20 years. They are not dog scratches nor bites. You’ve got a better chance had you said Scooby Doo 😅 Dogs almost Breath out canine DNA. Maybe snoopy if Scooby doesn’t do it for you? Haha. Again now we are fighting with fists without leaving sweat, skin cells blood and there’s no facial fractures at all. Those black eyes are from a cranium fracture and your local doctor could tell you that. It’s getting better though. Great story. It’s almost YouTube worthy 😂 GPS coordinates put with Apple data coupled with Ways has John not move from where he is found seconds after psychopathic Karen lost her bearings and went bang 75% foot down at 24 miles an hour top speed. Also without de acceleration there’s a slight speed drop off. Consistent with a pedestrian strike. Those are abrasions and jagged ones too if you open both eyes including your Karen read one. It’s tail light when she slams it hard backwards and he puts his elbow glass in hand to protect himself and get out of the way of Nutter Karen. You eat too much conspiracy shows for breakfast. None of what you said holds any water. No evidence of that whatsoever. It’s great if it did then you could point a finger at someone else hey. Isn’t that your hope?? If it’s your actually true thoughts then wow you are in serious strife. The FBI found no cover up and yet you do ? Classic SJ.
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  571. Well said.
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  572. This innocence fraud campaign is getting shown for what it is. It took a pro in Hank Brennan to get this thing rolling. It will be over soon. Justice for John Okeefe.
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  573.  @Brandysky1 think you are wrong brandy
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  574. Ease of the conspiracy dust.
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  575. Billion to 1. It’s not happening Karen saying a plow killed John and spotting him from a moving car in the pitch black darkness and during a raging blizzard was also a billion to 1. Guilty.
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  576.  @bbe3034 That’s spin doctoring it to the max. Complete defence deflection from what Karen did all by her little biddy self.
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  577.  @Vivilovesstitch What are you on about ? Seriously. Karen has 14 different stories so 13 are made up lies. The first couple started in her first call to Jen McCabe. While using Kaylee’s phone she said she left John at the waterfall after they fought. Then when caught in that lie by Jen saying what are you talking about, we saw you out front of my sisters. Karen then said was i? I can’t remember I was too drunk 🙄. That’s a line of multiple lies from Karen and changed stories . What has the prosecutor lied about ?
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  578. Karen is an absolute hell raiser. She’s raising hell alright. Her first call was Kerry Kerry Kerry John’s dead then hangs up. Then speaks soon after and says he might be dead and a plough did it. She Karen was in the car and no doubt went past the body in the car before driving to Jens. She knew where he was. She left him there to die. Total narcissist.
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  579. She’s still drunk and unhinged. How’s her interviews. Her story’s changed numerous times. Monster Karen.
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  580. Why did Karen factory reset 2 phones and why didn’t she give pass words?
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  581. Is this a death penalty case ?
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  582. She did. Admitted it too
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  583. She didn’t drive up to the body. Common sense man. Come on.
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  584.  @LeannaMurphy-mx7zy a body can smash a car in a big way. She probably knocked him down once then went again as his head was smashed and those scratches are from the metal underneath the car. The dog DNA didn’t work for the defence, so guess what. They’ve dropped that myth. What a joke the defence are. Do you realise her lawyer said early that this was an accident and not on purpose so she shouldn’t be charged in this manner. Later on reads team change it up. She has changed her story 4 times. She said she knows that they pulverised him against her tail light. What lol. So she knows this she said so it’s her car and she was in it. So did she drive home after that and come back 4 hours later ? Think about how laughable that sounds.
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  585. Hogwash.
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  586.  @karmad4491 were you there? You are more than likely right but it isn’t 100% so therefor it’s just a educated guess. That doesn’t stack up in court.
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  587. Guilty
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  588. Killer Karen smiling daily. Who does that. She’s probably the only one that never cared about his death. She’s so cold and just a pure narcissist. Even told Kaylee that John was at a sleep over. Yeah right, that’s why she wanted to go straight to 34 Fairview once she had witnesses with her. What a complete Nutter.
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  589. She won’t. Her 14 lies will be shown.
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  590. I believe the feds. They can’t find one. Guilty.
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  591. He’s dead he’s dead. Karen’s first words to Kerry. Then hangs up. Yeah she’s innocent lol.
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  592. Read is one of the most revolting women I’ve seen in many a year. She’s on par with the suitcase lady who people still believe is innocent 😂
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  593. Maybe because Karen is guilty. Have you ever thought of that.
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  594.  @Pippie807 lol.
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  595. Exactly. Also the car data going in reverse at that time. Case closed.
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  596.  @joes.4149 haha. Yeah ok.
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  597. Pink juror needs to take a break. Go do something constructive tattoo.
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  598. Karen is a whack job and so are her supporters. Conspiracy lol. Yeah right. Karen is a monster.
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  599.  @camillaSweden stop the nonsense. Dog lol. No DNA. Scooby Doo 😂. No Botton jaw. No hair lol. Move on.
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  600.  @lsakds1 this isn’t a movie lol.
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  601. Under Karen’s guidance. Amazing how she knows it’s John while others could not see anything or anyone. Guilty. Own it Karen
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  602.  @AnGel-k9l4s proof ? GBI going no conspiracy so where’s that leave it? Karen 🤔
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  603.  @ForeverMJful She lied numerous times. She admitted it. You and others are taking far too much credence in scientific opinion without these scientists looking at evidence. You need science and math. So 1/3 of all evidence to even state an opinion is ridiculous. Simple math tells you that. A real scientist would say I don’t know or I am not sure. There’s political truth. Personal truth though they are not the truth. Objective truth is what scientists go by. In other words this opinion of theirs is almost comedy. Guilty. She caused the death of John Okeefe. You go through the steps of evidence including her tail light with a gaping hole in it at 5;07am and that cuts any conspiracy dead in its tracks. Kids can zoom and pause. John’s DNA inside the housing of Karen’s tail light. It’s a brand new car. It was unbroken till it broke right ? Brand new car. John’s DNA only gets in there when it breaks. Common sense tells you that. Her actions before and after are damning. She’s a goner.
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  604.  @SavvyMuhon Lol. House was cleared. Don’t you understand data ? Dog bites? Lol. More chance Scooby Doo did it. Karen killed John. Too much garbage floating around online. Facts are facts.
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  605.  @shanl3270 Haha. Yeah goldilocks did it or was it the 3 bears 🥴🥴🥴
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  606. What about the countless cars that drove past during that 5 hour window ? Are they in on it too ? It was on a very dark corner in a snow storm. Who’s looking for bodies going to a car at the other side of the property. I wish someone did see him as he would or could be alive today. Karen panicked and failed to help a dying man and let him freeze to death. Now that’s truly a cold monster.
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  607. You are guessing on many things. Did she slightly bump him first or did he sort of slide low as the impact was coming? We don’t know. He wouldn’t have died has she helped him but she left him for dead and he froze to death.
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  608. No his mistake was dating a monster.
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  609. Amazing that supposedly normal people want a killer to walk free. What’s wrong with the human species? She knew where he was because she left him there. She knew he was dead or close to. X-ray vision Karen sees a man through a pile of snow and knows who it is. Her old man probably got her to mention plough at 4:15. Had to make something up. First she said she left him at the waterfall. Her tail light pieces were all over him. Her tail light was broken before police even looked at her car. All people who says she is not guilty or judges her not guilty have blood on their hands. All the YouTube channels going with a conspiracy are pathetic. She will pay either now or later. What an atrocious person Karen is. Blames her helpers.
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  610.  @926paaja Anything is possible. What is probable ? Could Jack the rippers great great grandson have possibly done this ? Highly unlikely but yeah anything is possible. It seems very far fetched to say that it happened the way you described. I believe it’s more probable that she is a bit of a jealous Nutter when drinking and has anger issues. She looks very arrogant and comes across this way. I totally believe she is guilty but she could get off such is the system and media there is in the US. Reckon she’s he new OJ. A killer that blames law enforcement. I wouldn’t say she has the dream team but they are very good at Changing opinions and putting out false information into the public forum. That should not be allowed ever. By both sides.
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  611.  @926paaja Yeah that seems plausible lol.
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  612.  @joshn1678 yeah. Where’s the proof. Oh there isn’t any. Good story through.
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  613. Because John didn’t get in the house. Karen made sure of that. GPS. Proven.
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  614.  @Mrgazzo I know the case. Clearly you watch too much conspiracy tv and it’s clogged your thought process. It’s blocked any intelligence you once may have had. Guilty. A child could see that. Or was it the plow Karen 🫤 billion to 1. More people died from lightning strikes and she says a plow killed him? Before anyone knows anything. Then he’s found under a cover of snow ? In a blizzard. In the dark. By X-ray vision Karen. Dead. Guilty. No brainer.
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  615. About as ridiculous as having a fan boy of Karen on their that’s pure defence.
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  616.  @etomidatesuccinylcholine Manslaughter it was 9-3. On other words the conspiracy was not believed which is common sense. 3 turtles said nah we will let her off.
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  617. Karen is like the head female gremlin. Give her a drink after midnight and all hell breaks out loose.
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  618. Forget action Jackson. It’s acting Jackson. Puts on an show act of complete nonsense and things that are not evidence just to fool those who are easily fooled. Similar to Karen Read. You’ve gone on and on about a conspiracy and went in an around a big circle of nothing. Donuts Jackson. Karen’s actions before and after are proper evidence of her guilt. Karen can see through snow like nobody’s business. So skilled Karen. Predicts him to be dead at 5am. Then 5:01 she’s already convinced it’s a plough that did it. Amazing Karen the psychic. More like the fakest woman you could ever imagine. Her acting was up there with Jackson’s on the fateful night. Calling daddy for a game plan to get out of this. Talks so much that she cannot help but admitting it to all. Doesn’t care at all about John or the kids or anyone but herself. The acting show is still going till this day would you believe. She even has a fan club. Imagine if it was John who killed her. I’m guessing he wouldn’t have the sake fan club. A cheating killing boyfriend. Umm not likely the male would get that support. What a horrid human she really is. Kill a man and take away the kids guardian who’ve already lost their mother and father . Why? Because she’s a jealous nut. She was the one cheating too, not John. Wow. Lock her up.
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  619. It will take days What verdict I have no idea. I know she’s guilty but she may get away with murder. It happens
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  620.  @LadyLuck13 I watched it. Definitely guilty. Maybe study the data that is explained to you. John never went in the house.
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  621. Her fans.
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  622.  @leanndoolin4284 She doesn’t have friends. She uses people. They aren’t her friends. They are hired help. Helping out a whack job and getting paid for it.
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  623. I would ask all people watching this case or any case. If someone speaks ill of someone a cop, does that mean they should be let off and set free after murdering someone ? My personal answer is a killer is a killer. Karen is a killer so she should be locked away. Again, I ask would you allow a killer to be set free because a policeman said disgusting comments about a woman who left a man to die instead of helping him and possibly saving his life.
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  624. She’s a killer end of story
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  625. Ok Karen.
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  626. The smiling assassin.
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  627. Lol. Moronic people everywhere. He’s as innocent as the day is long. The only guilty party here are the prosecution. They should be held accountable for their display their police work. Pathetic. He couldn’t have possibly staged this without bringing tree matter back with him. It was a crawl through the scrub bush. He’s totally unfit. How is not a part of tree matter not on him the car his clothes. His clothes were still in the basket not even washed. Dumb and dumber would know this was not a murder. She killed herself. It’s basic common sense for those who have some.
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  628.  @judyostrom8972 grow a brain.
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  629.  @judyostrom8972 prison for Karen
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  630. 😅😅. Where’s the DNA? Wear gloves. Did he clean up his evidence. Lol
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  631. Karen viper reads new book will be called. If I hit him hit him hit him. Lol.
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  632. What about John’s dead ? What does that mean ? Lol
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  633. They didn’t have the evidence. It wasn’t proven at all. Only by conspiracy tv lovers.
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  634. She is sickening. Imagine if the evidence shows to the full extent that she did this and they still set her free. Great system hey. You have to rely on a jury who could have an agenda before the siren starts. I watch many trials. I see innocent people get locked up regularly. Sometimes it’s because they are so disliked or they are born in another country. Females it’s much harder to convict compared to a male. Why is that ? They also get lighter sentences for some unknown reason. I love women but geez. James brown sung it’s a man’s world. That has flipped 180.
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  635. He’s a butter cup. He’s scared of he even looks the other way. The turtle gang will come after him like they have others.
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  636. Well said.
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  637. Stop it. Canine DNA would also show and it would be smothered in canine DNA. It’s more likely to be bacon that has spat or pork. Dog treats lol.
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  638.  @coopmilieu7188 sure. The defence proves they have a lot of fairy stories.
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  639. Karen framed herself. Guilty. Going to enjoy watching her explain her changing stories lol
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  640.  @BrownEyes-831  false. He was in the medical profession and still is. Amazing how rumours turn into facts isn’t it.
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  641.  @coleengogerty3852 Her taillight pieces are at the crime scene before her car was even at the port. So that throws the coverup out the window. She’s guilty. Things stick to frozen surfaces. Karen is a nut job that’s thrown a city into turmoil because of her selfishness and her narcissistic ways. She will get karma some way or another
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  642.  @Tamara-id1pe Tamara. Get you hand off it. It not only skies that it’s showing a whole lot more. No leaks yet by Karen ? I’m thinking this new data is terrible for Karen.
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  643.  @VictoriaLynn59 The house John never got to as Karen went for target practice ? The house that the FBI have cleared ? Imagine Karen with a lie detector lol. It would beep like road runner. 14 different stories don’t go into one 🥴
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  644.  @hardtakeoff The house with law enforcement was never investigated by law enforcement because Karen admitted guilt and then in court. The FBI then for some unknown reason and you could ask Josh levy about that investigated the whole case including occupants and also anyone who was connected to the house etc. the FBI did the whole works and found no cover up and that’s why we went to trial and heading for a 2nd trial. So in other words the FBI believes Karen killed John Okeefe because no cover up means only one thing. It’s not rocket science
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  645. She doesn’t have to. Karen is unhinged. Take one look at her. He’s dead was her first call to Kerry Roberts. How did she know he was dead ? Total Nutter and a total killer
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  646.  @notsorryyouretriggered She’s evil and twisted is Karen.
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  647.  @RcPlayer-tt2vw So if it was an accident and she was drunk as a skunk and that is why this happened, should be just let off all together ? In my mind it is still manslaughter. She caused his death by her actions.
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  648. No he didn’t
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  649.  @Dmblover1924 she stated I hit him twice. She asked for someone around her to check how long it takes to die on the cold. The Dog theory has vanished. It’s scrapped and was a joke from the start. They knew the DNA cleared the poor doggy. Geez poor puppy got the blame from the read team. She said she knows they slammed him into her car? Hang on, so she was there in her car? He cops a beating and she drives home for 4 hours and comes back? How’s that defence sounding., I thought the theory was he was running around the house ? How many lies and changes of theories ?
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  650. Karen’s guilty. GPS coordinates prove John never went on any house. It’s in evidence. Read it. Study it. She cheats. She’s jealous. She’s angry. She reversed at 12:32am. John didn’t move again after this. Guilty as one can be
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  651. Wrong. Karen said we need to go to the house. Jen directed Kerry there. Good story though.
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  652.  @jd5061 I just watched it. You sound like Jackson
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  653.  @Moonchild14928  You call it bashing. I call it stupidity. Yes have an opinion is fine. If you know nothing about evidence and crime then best not to comment. He wasn’t just found innocent. He was innocent. The state of Ohio are the only guilty party here. When you shove evidence that actually clears a guy under the carpet, then it’s common sense to know what’s going on here. They were on a train and didn’t want to put the brakes on. She was seen at 8:30 in the morning by the peeping Tom across the road. He then said he wasn’t sure if he saw her the morning before or that actual day. So phone records showed it could not have been the day before as she was 40 miles away. So he had to have seen her on the day and morning in question. That means she was alive at the time of this so called murder. So their theory was totally wrong. Her neck was damaged while rotting hanging from a tree in wind. It’s not hard to work out. How he could stage that and leave no tree matter on him in the car or at his house or on his clothes is clearly impossible. How an unfit man could carry her so low through thick scrub around 180 metres without having a trace of dna tree matter isn’t possible. It all leads to she did it herself. She hooked her own legs so to Do this thing properly. Wouldn’t surprise me if she actually jumped once and she hit the ground and lay there hurt for a while. She had grog with her. She had vapes with her. Houdini couldn’t pull that murder off. He isn’t close to Houdini. Only bias and or not having a clue on crime scenes could possibly have someone think otherwise. She necked herself. 100%. That’s not opinion. That’s straight up fact. Only blindness would have you or anyone think otherwise.
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  654. Opposite. Guilty.
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  655.  @LJ-tb8eo won? Prison is coming. 15 to 20 years.
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  656. Karen said there was no criminal intent at her first hearing. That’s all you need to know. She’s saying it was a terrible accident in other words. Then changed her stories Lottie by little. Guilty.
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  657. @ so what. Things happen. They thought they were tripping out. It doesn’t matter. There’s a killer they did that. Focus on that.
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  658. He says the cops were there at 4am. Lol. Yeah nah
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  659. Karen framed herself. He didn’t look mortally wounded so I left.
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  660. Great theory 😂
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  661.  @ajig8057 he had frost bite and died from the cold.
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  662.  @Vivilovesstitch So even if that happened you’d have reasonable doubt ? It either did or didn’t. He was either killed by the evil house and it’s occupied persons or by Karen. There’s no in between. So if the FBI are correct then there’s no cover up, and Karen is a killer. If you don’t see right from wrong and don’t have the courage to send a killer to prison then don’t even go into a jury
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  663. John’s DNA is inside the housing of a sealed tail light. He didn’t work at Lexus did he ? It’s a brand spanking new car. Only possible way johns DNA gets inside the housing is part of him went in that tail light when it broke. Fragments are in his clothes . I cannot put it any more simple than that. Guilty. 100%.
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  664.  @livecalm2246  Of course. Who says their boyfriend is dead if he has been gone for 4 hours and he was meant to be dropped off at a party ? So 4 hours later he is dead Karen ? He then is probably dead and got hit by a plough. Is this attack of the killer ploughs 😂. Yet these supporters actually believe her lol. Yep that is what normal people would think. He’s dead and hit by a plough. Doesn’t call 911. Kerry Roberts does as soon as nutjob Karen mentions this. Kerry calls hospitals which is normal. Karen ? Who does she call ? Friends and has a different story for each one. First lie was I left him at he waterfall after we fought ?! Ummm then when pulled up later with that comment and told we saw you at the sisters place out front, she says was i? I can’t remember where I went as I was too drunk last night. Kaylee testified to this also. Fans ignore this or say Kaylee is in on it too. Pathetic. They know shes not in on it but when in a corner they’ll blame anyone and everyone. Karen’s way. That’s Karen. Victim blaming. John you are setting me up to fail were her texts the day before. He wants to be left alone. She calls him and he says stop it I’m with Kaylee. It doesn’t stop her. What sort of person continues with calling ? An unhinged one. Obsessed one. Abusive one. Crazy one. Selfish one. She was also cheating and then goes with if there’s somebody else just tell me. He says nope. She is definitely a Nutter. Imagine dating that. Then she ends his life. Poor bloke.
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  665.  @ILoveDogs1970  what evidence ? The company who had roughly 1/3 of all evidence ? Simple math tells you that even giving an opinion with that amount of evidence is ludicrous. You wouldn’t trust your plumber with that.
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  666. He’s dead he’s dead. Karen is guilty
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  667. You are a freak.
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  668. She knew ? Do you know this or are we guessing like everyone else ? I just cannot see how you know that she knew. Speculation and doubt everywhere.
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  669. Yes. Karen is her name. Evil one front row
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  670. Who knows when he did. He had different times on different days. Though he was adamant he went down that road at 5;30. He saw Karen viewing her dirty work.
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  671. Karen evil face is starting to look worried. What a piece of work she is.
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  672. Of course she did it
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  673.  @kathymoore2101 she says she hit him in court. Her lawyer was apologetic. Lol.
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  674. Half agree there. I know 100% she done this but if I had to give a percentage of her actually being found 12-0 guilty. 60%. Not confident at all
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  675. For what? Swearing 😅. Goose comment. He hasn’t even broken a law.
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  676. Pick on a victims brother. Coward.
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  677. And Jackson doesn’t ? Jackson acted as though he lost his lollies.
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  678. Fan boy top left.
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  679.  @User5000-g8b lol.
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  680. It is where it is and also the fact that it’s the only dna on the sheath. So the clever dock cleaned it but hard to clean under a button into material. That as well as the car the phone data and a stack of other things that we know very little about. He’s a goner.
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  681. Unless they find out someone else did it like a serial killer rapist and he has zero connection.
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  682.  @Barb417 That wouldn’t surprise me. They are like a herd out front of that courthouse. IT’s the conspiracy thing. Not knocking Americans but geez they do love a conspiracy more than any other country. They want to think there’s something up and that they know more. I just go with evidence and facts. The earth isn’t flat. There has been zero true evidence of aliens landing on earth and Karen read steam rolled that poor man with her vehicle. The evidence is everywhere. Read admitted at first then changed her story. She has changed it numerous times and so has her defence. Now there’s no animal involved because guess what, the DNA showed it wasn’t an animal. I knew that from the start and so did they. They just want garbage put out there as to have a public and media defence. Do people think the dog wiped up his own DNA or wore gloves. Seriously there’s some fanciful things going around these days.
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  683.  @LenneNOTSOB97 She still is drunk.
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  684.  @brettcantrell8650 don’t be sheepish. You are delusional. Wake up to yourself and do what’s right. Unless you cannot understand and then you are forgiven.
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  685.  @timmysargent6810 Hey. Pull your head in soldier ok. Karen is the killer. It’s not open and shot but your mind can think what it likes. Just pull up fella
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  686.  @timmysargent6810 you missed her admission of guilt in court Smokey ? Saying she didn’t think she hit him that hard. Lol. Haha. Hilarious. Smokey and the bandit. Here they come. Open and shut😁😁😑
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  687.  @brettcantrell8650 Karen’s tail light was busted at 5;07 am right? don’t believe go take a look. It’s all over YouTube close ups. Gaping hole. She mentioned it broken 4;40 4:50 in front of Kaylee to Jenn mcabe. So witnesses. We see it broken at 5;07 so you can scrub her saying it was busted when she loved tapped johns car as we know there’s not true anyway. It broke when she reversed and thats why it’s all over and in John clothes in micro ectopic pieces. So planting ? Ok when did the cops break her tail light? At the scene lol? Broke into johns garage at 3am? When ? Look mate the FBI has cleared any cover up or conspiracies so take of that what you will. John’s DNA is inside the housing of the tail light. It wasn’t broken the day before was it. There’s vision of her Karen with not a mark on it. So it’s a brand new car under 4 months old at the time. How’s Johns DNA get inside a busted tail light? My answer is the logical answer is it happened when it broke with john in close proximity. Common sense tells me that. Reconstruction guys everyone says what you Don believe in science. Yes I personally do fully. I also believe I math. So if 1/3 of all evidence was given to the team then how can you give a full 100% evaluation? Math don’t lie. Maybe look at 100% of all evidence before I even listen to your theory and then I’ll judge what I’m hearing. Kate admitted it. Days later she admitted it in court. 12:31:50 she goes reverse crazy. John’s phone does not move after 12:32:00. The data lines up perfectly. He doesn’t move till 6;15. Microscopic pies are in his clothes in with vomit and blood. They weren’t actually seen intel the clothes were sent to the lab to be swabbed. Then they were discovered so no one knew about them until an independent lab found them. Karen’s actions. Where do I start. The day prior so let’s say 14 hours before she was pissed. She said John you are setting me up to fail. It’s all his fault. Sociopaths do that. She thinks she’s perfect. John’s fault. She’s obsessive with phone calls texts. He won’t answer. He don’t want to fight. Mate I know the feeling. I’ve had those types before. You just want peace. With his daughter it doesn’t matter she wants him to answer. With his dad the same. At 12 midnight she’s put down a lot of drinks in a short time. Ok she seems she ca hold it reasonably well judging her walk and witnesses. Couples are different behind closed doors as we all know. They seemed fine. Witnesses that supposedly want to frame her said she said normal. No fights. In that car something happened. While trying to get directions Jen said it’s the street after Bella’s house. Now maybe they set Karen off who knows. Bella’s mum is John ex for years ago. He puts the address in his phone in waves and that’s around the same time his health data is saying he’s climbing stairs. 12:23 am. There’s no stairs in Karen’s car but is he waving his hand around arguing we just don’t know. They’re going up and down hill. She misses the turn off as it triggers the data in the car and spins around and that’s at 12:24 matching up with all data. GPS car data wave health etc. not just one data that Mr Greene completely lost his baring on. They sit out from for 7-8 minutes. There’s a car behind them that’s there for around 3 to 5 judging by their statements. Karen slowly moves forward. Why are they still in there? 8 minutes? Arguing. Most people would go in by now wouldn’t they ? Normal situations. Car behind takes off around them. John gets out and she probably goes forward more but there’s a bit of guess work. Fact is we don’t know. She is angry and slams it in reverse. Exactly how it all happened could never be fully explained unless we had cameras. We don’t. I’d say he’s attempting to get out of the way as we all would and he’s holding a drink. His elbow tucks in for protection and breaks the tail light. That’s how his DNA got in there he is clipped and spun at speed and cracks his back of head on icy hats ground hard. Cracks his skull and whether he crawls a short distance and vomits and then falls unconscious we will never know. He could have been awake for 10 seconds? 8 or so seconds after this reverse he’s not moving. Karen calls him 5 times in the next 6 minutes. The 5th call at 12:37 she is angry and victim blaming once more. It’s John’s fault she hit him. I f—-g hate you. 12:42 you hear her psychopathic foot steps. She doesn’t even knew she’s called him. Says nothing Wants him to answer badly of course because her nightmare is getting worse by the minute. Motive no texts all night none? So 12:46. 14 minutes after the incident she says John where are you ? Nobody knows where you are ? Umm she just dropped him off didn’t she,,. There’s a blizzard. Where else would he be? Nobody knows where you are lol. He ain’t playing lawn bowls in a blizzard at midnight. She is making it up as she goes. She’s very intelligent even though she’s a nut job. Your kids are here I’m going home. Oh back at 12:46 it’s his fault again. Victim blaming. You F—-g pervert. That is what started this fight. Jealousy for sure. Women go crazy or can. As can men. Karen snaps like a biscuit. Quickly. So yeah she grams her witnesses. After calling everyone except police. Says a plough hit him. Said he’s dead. Why would you say a ploughs hit him. Also to Kaylee earlier?? Why ? Then her X-ray vision sees John. In a blizzard. In darkness. Under snow. She identifies John when nobody walking out of they house all be it on the other side of that property saw him. No neighbours. No cars driving past for almost 6 hours. None of them saw him. Just Karen. She asked Jen McCabe to google how long to die at 6:23. She asks the ambulance guy how long can someone survive without a coat ? Umm why would you ask that ? Unless you knew how long he was out there for ? She was hoping the cold killed him and not her car. Fact is both killed him. Admission to all around such is her mouth. Admits it in court days later and said it was an accident. She didn’t think she hit him that hard were yanattis words. My client loved that man your honour. Yeah true love. The stuff around that is fanciful. Yep w cop called her bad things big deal. Most probably would after she just let a cop die of a slow and painful death and could have saved him. Unprofessional no doubt. Has zero to do with facts. Data doesn’t lie. Greene perjured himself and apologised. He will have trouble down the road for sure. So all the defence story telling was just that. No dog. No fight. No Google search. The jury scrapped that no doubt…. Only conspiracy hunters will follow and avoid evidence. Karen killed John. That’s a fact.
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  688. Clicks. Response? I’m with you.
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  689. Nothing was deleted sbd no one lied except Karen she her boyfriend calms Jackson’s. Oh Arccs lied.
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  690. She knows she hit him but let’s put any theory out there and see what sticks. Next she will say it was Jack the Ripper.
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  691. Hopefully not
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  692.  @jeangillespie5386 physics science lol. Yeah without evidence 🚫 stop the nonsense. Scientists would scoff at having any opinion without the data and all the evidence.
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  693. Not sure but I miss her beautiful face. Especially wearing the Eskimo gear in Idaho. Perfect reporter with a picture perfect face. I’m not sure she would like this case. I reckon she’s smart so she knows Karen did it. Be hard for her to lie.
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  694.  @ianfortuna9385  Because I have a brain
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  695.  @Kamsgram bit he didn’t go on a house ? So how? lol. You just can’t make it up. Conspiracy tv 📺 lol. GPS says no.
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  696.  @Kamsgram  haha comedy conspiracy.
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  697. She definitely did. Too many people believe in conspiracy theories without a shred of evidence. Maybe you are one? Not sure. She’s a cold woman. Black heart Karen.
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  698. Prison realise ? Wtf
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  699. I hope you are living a great life now Kim and are happy and healthy. You deserve it. Xxx
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  700.  @JennyVM264  Examples. Karen Read asked all around her when jumping on his body to check how long it takes to die Int he cold. There’s witnesses. That’s when the check was done. The opening up on a google browser at 2:42 or whatever time is in evidence, was about basketball. You’ll see it on the trial. There was a video of basketball watched through this as well. That browser wasn’t turned off, so hours later she typed that in on the request of Karen Read. It will be shown in evidence and the defence know this but are playing stupid public games. She Karen read said I reckon a snow plight hit him. This is before going back to the body. Then she said she sees him when the girls in front could not. She knew he was there. That’s why she gets witnesses to go along with her. Those are not animal marks of any kind. DNA has squashed that theory to stop the nonsense. Turtle Neck doesn’t have his facts. He has the defence in his ear and Karen. She admitted to hitting him twice. She’s guilty. Hopefully there’s Justice for the victim.
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  701. That’s a good fairy story
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  702.  @CarmenHughes-ox1cm Haha she admitted it in court, what planet are you on? Go read the court documents. Congrats for the silliest comment of the month. I bred pig hunting dogs for 20 year. They are 100% not off bite lol. Scooby Doo you reckon haha. John never went in the house. Get with the program. GPS coordinates tell you and the world that.
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  703.  @laurenherda2415 A 1 year old would know she’s guilty. She admitted it. Says he was dead at 5am. Blamed a plough 2 mins later 😂. How’s her tail light busted at 5;07 ? Gaping hole. Pause and zoom. A 5 year old can do that 🥴
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  704. Guilty. Lock her away.
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  705. Don’t be silly. Do you honestly think she types it then ? You cannot type 2 searches on Google at the exact same time. You know that right? The app is still open. Duhh.
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  706.  @nikkimclay5474 it doesn’t matter. She intentionally left him there after hitting him so she caused his death and probably with 2 actions. Guilty.
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  707. Guilty. Proven. Turtles in the jury box.
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  708.  @JI5-25 how they cannot have that brought on trial I’ve got no idea. They need to get that in. It’s damning. Also her texting turtle. I could have clipped him ? Put her father on the stand. See how he goes. Everyone seems to be on trial but the actually killer. Baffling is an understatement.
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  709.  @rad4579 that’s funny. So John didn’t get to the house. You know that right. So did they kill hun when Karen reversed like a whack job lol. Then leave him on the lawn. He didn’t move seconds after the reversal Lol. How did her tail light break lol. There’s a gaping hole in it at 5;07 😮. Magic was it.
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  710.  @PhillyBirdGang1 haha. No you are seriously mistaken. Go check the data. It’s online to this whole event. 12:24 was the turn around at the top of Fairview. 12:31:50 is her psycho reverse. He John put 34 Fairview into waves at 12:21 meaning GPS as you know. 12:23 his health data which is kindergarten stuff compared to GPS which was originally built for military and war purposes as you would know. So health data has him climbing stairs at 12:23 so he’s in Karen’s car. He is half a mile away from Fairview. So scrap that. You are misinformed. You are going by Greene lol. He perjured himself. He apologised or did you miss that. He had to be taught by Mr Whiphin. The man that helps build these systems. After greened brain fade he actually changed the system slightly so Baffoons like Greene don’t misinterpret it again. In fact Mr Greene could be in serious trouble with law suites such was his mishap. He not only done the mishap but when corrected and agreed he was wrong he didn’t go with that under oath. So the defence didn’t want to know about it. So before a major trial he virtually allowed the public witch hunt of Jen Mcabe. He could of and should have corrected it long before. He’s still hiding behind it as he wanted the pay from the defence. There will be ramifications and this could also happen legally to the defence team. I’m not joking either. Karen has a lot of court coming. Wrongful death suites witness intimidation and putting out false information before a trial. It’s fraudulent. So maybe sort out your facts before mentioning anything. There’s dummy’s all over the internet that are still going with these theory’s even though they are completely false. Don’t just listen to a defence and pretend to know it as fact. Look at the data yourself. It’s there. John never went up stairs. He didn’t go in a house. There is no dog involved. Karen caused the death of John Okeefe. It’s as plain as the nose on Jackson face. My hunch is he will not be in the next trial. You’ll know why after it happens.
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  711.  @PhillyBirdGang1 sally port ? It’s 1989 system. Still on Bega lol. Karen’s tail light was busted at 5;07. It’s on camera. She mentioned it on the phone to Jen mcabe and there’s a witness. Have you forgotten about Kaylee? She heard Karen say her tail light is broken at 4;40. She also had already mentioned a plough. Then again at 5;01. The search team at the crime scene are digging up pieces as the car is coming in. What’s your theory lol. Making it up as you go. There’s zero evidence of a cover up. The feds couldn’t find one. What’s that tell you? Haha.
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  712.  @PhillyBirdGang1 sorry but check all facts. Not what’s o. YouTube or said by a Defence. Just check facts. Karen killed John. I’m sorry that it addenda you but a killer is a killer right. Ok let’s say for instance that you were shown proof full proof that she killed him. There is no conspiracy and that was not possible. Would you say guilty then or not ? Just curious. Some say they would still find her not guilty. What’s the world coming too. Killing a human is as bad as it gets. I’m just baffled. She’s treated like a princess Dianna. She admitted it. Even in court lol. Anyways I just shake my head at it all. Hit and runs are boring. They don’t make money in the media. Conspiracy’s do. I’ll leave you on that note.
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  713.  @michellesayers5346 I don’t like cops. I was a criminal for a very long time. I don’t like cop killers though. In fact I don’t like killers. Hence I don’t like Karen. Deal With it.
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  714.  @HomeAtOahu I am sure you are intelligent enough to know if the FBI searched far and wide for a conspiracy or a cover up they certainly would have found it. Fact is they didn’t. Make of that what you will but it shouldn’t be too difficult. John didn’t go into a house. He lay there where Karen left him and there’s a difference of 8 seconds give it take 3 seconds. So maybe think it through. How’s John get inside hat bashed get bittern and be on the lawn in 8 seconds lol. Fact is they are not dog bites. I was a breeder of pig hunting dogs and yeah they bite. Those are clearly not dog bites. They are abrasions. Jagged surface came into contact with John’s arm. Dogs have mouths that hold 10 times the amount of moisture than humans. It’s like saying goldilocks did it. No dogs involved. Not any animal. John’s stair climbing was in Karen’s car lol. Mr green perjured himself and apologised. Did you avoid that in the trial ? He’s actually in Strife and more than likely going tongs be legal ramifications going forward. So he should. He avoided pulling it down with the defence but they kept on and kept on. He’s an amateur and he knows it. Relying on one piece of data alone and that piece being your health data lol umm. Yeah. Say no more. GPS is built for military purposes. I don’t go by anyone. The state defence anyone. I go by facts. Karen caused the death of John. Not Scooby do. Not Mike Tyson It’s a very simple hit and run that had grown alien legs. Have an opinion but don’t think that everyone is stupid. Conspiracy theories Ned’s facts. Of the FBI found no cover up then yeah.
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  715. If it was a stunt car and he went forward 100 feet and the brakes worked fine. Then he reversed back to his starting line and is told to drive 300 metres and for those who aren’t metric around 18% of a mile and yeah he’s told to go that distance in this acting scene and the. Brake hard at 300 metres. Then he does this and the brakes don’t work and he follows through much further and hits and kills a cameraman. Is he liable or should he be ? Should have he checked the brakes properly? Slightly different of course and some would say entirely different but would he be viable ? I’m guessing not.
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  716. Karen did then changed it up. Go back Karen. Own it.
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  717.  @caiuspostumiusturrinus1024 Bullcrap. GPS proves John didn’t enter a house. You cannot get John in any house. That’s fact. That’s evidence. All roads point to Karen. All occupants of the house have been cleared. Get off the gear. Money making conspiracy tv is not evidence. It’s like alien shows. That’s not proof but it sure makes a list of income talking about it. Same with this. Hit and run isn’t a big story. That’s all this is. The rest is fairy story tv. One, to get a killer off. 2 to make cash.
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  718. Yes love Julie. What a woman. Beautiful smart she has more guts than the 2 dweebs on Vinnie and Karen’s fanboy Matt.
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  719. Yeah 5 mins before he and he Karen got there. Aren’t you curious on why it was before he actually put the address in? Do you think he put it in his phone while he’s in the house 😂. You cannot go by health data alone. That’s kindergarten stuff. GPS is built for military purposes. It has him with Karen until she’s about to go crash boom bang. So as soon as she does this, John doesn’t move anymore. It has him outside the house. Exactly where he was found. It shouldn’t be too difficult.
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  720.  @FloLife01 Say what ? You looking at health data only ? That’s why Greene is facing litigation. He apologised on the stand. John never went up stairs and us next to Karen until she reversed. Then he doesn’t move 8 seconds later. Karen lied. The defence lie. Karen’s a guilty. Go check the data yourself. Check the gaping hole at 5;07am. Pause zoom kidscan do it.
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  721. So Google search was at 6:23. So many false fake facts from the defence. How long to die on cold wrong. Missing show wrong. Missing belt wrong. John went in the house wrong. John went up stairs wrong wrong wrong. Tail light pieces planted wrong oh unless there’s a Time Machine. I get this has be sloppy but the fact is Karen killed John. Oh and looking up DUI attorneys at 1:40. If that doesn’t tell you she’s guilty nothing will. That ends it. I did it I did it. Yep manslaughter ok. Lock her up.
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  722. Josh. Stop embarrassing yourself. Be better
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  723. Spot on.
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  724.  @Kamsgram she said it at her first hearing. Stop taking rubbish. What’s does no criminal intent mean ? Lol.
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  725. Sure you can. These stories get better. Haha.
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  726. Then what are the flogs doing in front of the court house ? Why has turtle neck being charged ? Lol
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  727. Go to 5;07 am footage. Pause and zoom and when you see the gaping hole in her tailight, it will actually solve the case for you. That’s if you have any logic at all. You can’t frame someone when the deed is already done. Lol. 5;07 am. Also let’s not forget, the FBI found no cover up 🙄 and that’s after going through this whole case with a fine tooth Comb. Karen’s guilty. The says doesn’t lie, only she does. She admitted it Remember. People seem to forget this fact.
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  728. 😷😷😷
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  729. Any public that have harassed witnesses and including harassment of children need to be sorted out good and proper. Taking pictures of kids ? Placing Sperm on photos is totally sick. What’s with these people.
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  730. Here’s another 🙄 he was totally innocent. You’d have to be either a man hater or just not too much on the bright side to not know this.
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  731.  @kimberlychelen9890 You weird or what ?
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  732.  @moodyblue9089 they did. Though had they looked at the evidence the who knows what their opinion would be. It’s actually irrelevant. Yep it’s an opinion from experts but experts that avoided the evidence and the main evidence. Jury wouldn’t take notice of them. A juror spoke and mentioned that. They virtually dismissed them because of them avoiding evidence
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  733. She could have saved him. She didn’t save him and fled instead of helping. Then let him freeze to death. That’s cold, that’s evil.
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  734.  @rootbeerfloat77 5 mins. We know she drove like a maniac moments before. Guilty.
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  735. Yes she should.
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  736. What are you on about?
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  737. Karen Cujo Read.
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  738. Not dog bites. Not even close. Canine DNA would saturate the whole area. Common sense. It’s fairy story stuff implying a dog lol.
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  739. Karen will get karma further down the line. Psycho Read drunk to much and anger and jealousy got the better of her. A man died because of her actions. It’s as simple as that.
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  740. This blokes time line was all over the place. Though I do wonder if it was Karen’s car that he saw just after 5am. More than likely as we know she went to the scene before grabbing witnesses and putting up an acting display that Betty Davis would have been proud of. Let’s not forget she rang Ms Roberts at around 5 and stated John is dead.
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  741. For swearing ? Lol. What does Karen and turtle deserve for witness intimidation? That’s coming for Karen by the way.
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  742. Math and science ? Opinion without evidence? Let’s say they were lucky to have 25% of all evidence. Your math doesn’t fit there does it. So that’s not science either. It’s total guess work. She killed him. Slowly too
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  743. You don’t know math and science then. I believe Karen read when she said I got him and there was no criminal intent. I didn’t think hit him that hard 😂.
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  744.  @sandywrites common sense. Try it out.
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  745.  @charleslaurice You like cop killers do you. ? Reckon you should go wet that face of yours.
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  746. She remembers exactly. That’s why she said he’s dead. Karen is evil
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  747. 100%.
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  748. Listen to the freaks outside court. Jerry springer specials holding signs. Killers fan club.
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  749. He sent a warrant to get it retrieved. Lol.
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  750. The science ? What science ? Guessing isn’t science. Maybe look at the evidence and then have an opinion. Wouldn’t you agree
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  751. Stop the nonsense. She was the biggest joke I’ve ever seen.
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  752.  @bobthetitanic is that what it’s called. You let that go you let the animals out of the cage in every court case. Though you know that.
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  753.  @l.Marissa.l you wearing pink ?
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  754. Text msgs says he isn’t lying. Footage of them going to John’s house says it’s true. I know you’d want far to be lying if you are a Karen supporter but facts are facts. John didn’t go in. We know that. So do you unless you want to ignore facts.
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  755. So no serial killers bury bodies? That’s the biggest load of bull dust I’ve ever heard.
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  756. Where you been ? DNA cleared any canine so wrap that one up quickly. Embarrassing
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  757. Why would anybody else. That’s a ridiculous theory. You don’t know what went on in that car?? Who admit it. Just think about this. You drop someone off there, though she has 4 different stories but we will go with her on this one? Did she drop him off and wait 10 mins like she stated or just drive off ? Take your pick, she says she saw him go into the house. Ok so why go searching for him in a panic 6 hours later? Why call friends to drive you around to find him? Who not take the car you drove to your friend and just go find him by yourself ? Why tell that person that you didn’t drop him off,? Why lie ? Why are you the one to spot a body in blizzard conditions in the dark of night and know it’s up also ? Why when you get out the car and see him in a very bad way don’t you say what happened? Why not go to the door that you saw him go into and demand to know wtf happened? Why avoid all that and instead say I hit him I hit him ? It’s not rocket science is it. She did it that’s why. That’s why the lies.
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  758.  @prmpatti She is just as dangerous. Both evil.
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  759. Not sure. They love a conspiracy. Many watch YouTube conspiracy shows and these hosts are going with that as it’s money making. So it blurs the brains of these viewers. They don’t understand this. So then their minds are fixed on one thing even though it’s a fairy story without evidence. A lot like religion
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  760. She will be on a episode of deadly woman in a couple of years.
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  761. Witnesses heard Karen ask Jen. Is he lying too ?
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  762. Without evidence you trust an opinion? Junk science Either donut correctly or just don’t do it.
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  763.  @Michbeachlover it’s disgusting. This woman Wa pregnant and stayed with a killer. I wonder if it was a man , what she would do then ? Not stay
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  764. Well said
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  765. Seriously ? Thought she went light on yanetti and especially light on whacko Jacko. He seemed to rule the roost of the court not the actually judge. Getting his own way with jury slips which is unheard of. Lally was copping criticism from the judge daily. Mr Lally we can’t hear you Mr Lally blah nkk lol sh blah. Take the Karen glasses off and you’ll see she was more than fair towards the defence including Karen’s antics. Maybe Karen should have been told off in front of the jury. Total Nutter Karen. Spoilt little brat and he brother seems awfully weird. Parents 🥴. Killer Karen knows people are walking from this next trial. Jackson already. How on earth is Greene going to double down ? Arca ? Whack job Karen. Deserves life in prison.
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  766. Melanie little. Fake as it gets. Working for Karen. False reporting before a trial. Isn’t that fraud or is that allowed in todays world ?
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  767. Yes by Karen. Admissions too
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  768. The scratches on the body look like a car for sure. They Nothing like dog scratches and dna would clear the 2nd theory straight away. She’s killed him whether on purpose or not we will never know as she looked drunk driving even hours later.
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  769. This bloke is a completely obsessed nut job and judging by her email to a friend, she felt good locks some pepper spray and having a room mate down stairs were her safety measures that would prevail incase this turned real bad. Unfortunately none of those 3 things were good enough. Her last hope was that roommate down stairs but he couldn’t gain the courage to help her. I am not knocking him I am just stating facts. It is certainly not his fault she died and he could have wound up dead also. It started all those years ago when she met him. Geez even if she cheated on him or dumped him or wherever, 8 years to not let it go is crazy. Had some deep rooted issues.
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  770. You do know the search team is there as proctor is bringing the car in yeah? Time machines aren’t possible. Karen’s tail light is busted at 5am. It’s on camera
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  771.  @monicarenee7949 what are you on about ? You are all over the place. Karen’s car in the garage right. Firstly Kaylee said johns car was in there earlier. So Karen came back at 12:42 ish and pulled johns car out and put her car in? Firstly why? Think about it? Second when she reversed at just after 5am and love taps johns car? No snow falls. No tail light falls. If you have any idea about cats Utility’s SUVs etv then you would know it’s bumper to bumper. Anyhow no tail light falls. It’s white snow yeah? See any red? Any clear ? When going out of the driveway pause it. Many YouTube channels have. It’s busted. Huge hole. Bang got her. She’s busted. You are talking about crap with library footage. You are kidding yourself. You believe anything a the YouTube people like a Melanie little or turtles or whoever are saying. There’s no kidding footage. Karen goes in an entirely different direction 🙄. He’s dead at 5am. Wow Karen. It’s a ploughs fault at 5:01. Umm ok. Backed up by Ms Roberts calling 911 and then surrounding hospitals. John’s DNA inside the housing of a sealed tail light? Brand new car. It can only get there one way. She swiped him. The data matched perfectly. Her crazy reverse. Then he doesn’t move. Lol. Fragments in his clothes. They weren’t even seen until they were ready to swan the top. Think ? When Karen’s car comes into the port there’s already people at the scene getting their crew ready to walk side by side and dig. They tail light pieces are buried down to ground level. Think ? Like his body was. Karen is a killer. She will always be the killer. No matter what. She admitted it to all. After lying through stages. Left him at the water fall remember. Days later her attorney said it was an accident. He is speaking on Karen’s behalf. I’m sure you understand this. She didn’t think she hit him that hard. She loved this man. So guilty. Only a totally biased person would say otherwise.
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  772.  @christinanicholls9868 deranged people put names like that. Whoever loves it are disturbing people.
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  773.  @leanndoolin4284 you obviously have zero clue. I watched. I’ve studied this case right down to seconds. The data shows no one else did it. GPS proves he didn’t go on the house. Conspiracy tv is not evidence. That’s why 9-3 were guilty that she did this. It should have been 12-0 It’s an easy case. Guilty. Factually
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  774.  @AttorneyDeborah The FBI have cleared all occupants of the house. The only person who isn’t cleared is the whack job Karen. You mean Arcca the men who looked at no evidence and took a wild guess? The ones that put a glass in a cannon ? The ones that didn’t know the states theory at all ? The ones where his wife is on free Karen pages. Yeah. That’s legit lol.
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  775. Lol. Is this still going on. Are you also the one who said the Google search was at 2:43 ?
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  776.  @Chis56 🤣🤣🤣
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  777.  @jtjones4081 haha that’s a classic. They are getting better all the time.
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  778. Nick is a kid who is as thick as a brick.
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  779. For sure
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  780. Karen Adelson.
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  781.  @JRay.R it was never said it didn’t match. It just couldn’t be proven.
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  782. She is guilty. That’s a fact. Whether she’s found guilty is another thing. Dumb people everywhere
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  783. I know she did it. Only fools believe she’s innocent
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  784.  @nicolaxoxo1 GPS puts him half a mile away when these stairs are taken. What are you talking about. Lol. The car data shows it. He hasn’t typed in the address yet haha. Give it away
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  785.  @nicolaxoxo1 You don’t understand. You cannot put heath data as the be all end all. You have to cross all of them crisscross sorry. Health data is bottom of the barrel really. GPS is built for military or that what it was originally built for. Just like freeways. Now GPS is extremely close. Her car data goes by GPS too. The car was half mile away. Lol. The health data you can go with id connected to them but GPS is the real deal. Mate my health data says some strange things and always has. The car data plus GPS from John’s phone had then a mile away. It wasn’t till 10 mins later till he actually stepped foot outside the car. 8 mins from the top of Fairview. The reverse happened and seconds later his phone didn’t move. These so called stairs were hills. I don’t have stairs or walk up any and it says I did. Health data is like the kiddie tool. That’s a fact mate. GPS is seriously global working.
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  786.  @edu456 she says damning statements in interviews. She did say that. 4 people heard it. Guilty.
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  787.  @edu456 was she next to her the while time. I can’t tell your full of it with the phrase you used to describe people. You are as trustworthy as Karen.
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  788.  @corky_cork why would she say did i? Thought he went in the house lol. The plow killed John. That’s Karen reads own words at 5;20. Am. Then she finds him in snow. Guilty.
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  789. She’s a cheater and a killer. Wow what a woman
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  790. Weed whackers a killer. This is Karen read/— hates kids ,she cheats and she will kill you then spit on your grave then attack your family and friends. This has to be woman of the year material. Wow what a woman.
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  791.  @janeevans1859 It does. You are ignorant to the facts.
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  792.  @janeevans1859 Sorry typo. You ate the conspiracy or you still do lol. Cops dump a man on their front lawn and low and behold Karen comes to the seen and admits it. Admission in court. Says it was an accident. Tells Yanneti in text that she didn’t think she hit him that hard. Wow how lucky was the people in the house. Karen did all the work for them 😂. Her tailight has a huge joke in it at 5;07 am. Pause and zoom. The conspiracy is dead in the water right there. Unless you believe they dumped John on their front lawn while watching Kate go crazy in reverse and chased her with a hammer and sack to put the pieces into 😂. Karen’s conspiracy would have been better going with that. Lol. She’s got time for new stories. The FBI found no cover up. Why is that ? Because there wasn’t one.
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  793.  @lynettejoubert4291 the one you didn’t
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  794. Also what about Kaylee ? She will be heard. Are the Karen fans going to say that she’s behind it also ? It will be disgusting if they do. She wants Justice for John. Karen’s on deep trouble.
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  795. Tadpole nick 😂 fanboy and talks dribble
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  796. As innocent as Jack the Ripper
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  797.  @onewotldgovernmentonlywhen9044  of course murder is wrong. Umm you know if a man is married and has 6 kids. It would be on Facebook or social media. Of course murder is different to what we are talking about. I’m just saying that cheating is not ok under any circumstances. Walk away. Move on. Don’t cheat while you are with someone. Just don’t do it.
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  798.  @4578pm haha. I saw it all. I as the no evidence of a attack lol. No Canine DNA so the dog they’re is done and dusted. GPS coordinates prove he didn’t go into a house. I guess you missed all that 😱😱😱. Comedy dude.
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  799. Greene should be going to court himself. Lying though his false teeth. That’s why Greene didn’t want to take the call from Whiffen. He even apologised on the stand. Fraud. Karen’s going to prison.
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  800.  @eammbutler1323 crap. She knew he was dead or close to an hour before finding him. Blames a plow remember. She’s the one who didn’t call police. Guilty
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  801. So before he’s at the house lol.
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  802. Go watch again. You blind or just plain bias ?
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  803.  @SueE.Generous Yeah one by one they are leaving their table. Now the dog theory which was ridiculous has left the desk ? Why didn’t it leave when they already knew the DNA results? Why do you think ? I’ll tell you why, to fool the common folk and gain more followers who love a conspiracy.
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  804. Karen read you mean don’t you ? Ohh the fans lol
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  805. Yes.
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  806.  @Myfriendlouie How when at 5;07am her tailight is busted with a gaping hole. This isn’t back to the future.
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  807.  @RichGagliardi eff Karen read. The only thing Karen should be free of is being free.
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  808.  @RichGagliardi No offence taken. Say you had secret footage of Karen hitting John, then looking at him for a second and flooring it to John’s place. What would you say to that ? Just curious. It’s a serious question. What would you think of her actions and the afterwards of blaming what would be innocent people ?
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  809. Incorrect. She was the only one involved. Crazy girlfriend lost the plot. Admitted it.
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  810.  @aepb55 you love turtle boys Nick names for everyone? You ok? Couple cans short or what? You enjoy abusing? That’s why your mate turtle does. Wouldn’t last 5 mins where I’m from but you men or women seem to lord over him. He’s nothing but crook. He’s going to get 15 plus.
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  811. You mean Karen.
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  812. Incorrect. That gave her 5 mins. We know she slammed it on reverse. Who’s to say she didn’t slam it driving home in a panic. Was it 12:36,50? We don’t know. Karen is a killer. Fact
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  813. Maybe blame the media the defence the witness intimidation the YouTubers the works. I go to the root of the problem. Karen.
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  814. Karen’s guilty. The rest is nonsense.
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  815. Well she was correct. Imagine how she was acting that night. Geez. What a freak. Killing narcissist Karen.
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  816. That’s the shame about the justice system. It’s like a game. A match. The evidence is all that should be important. Not who speaks better I believe she did it. I also believe she will get away with killing this man. That to me is what is important.
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  817. Yea it’s a match
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  818. True though she knew he was hit whether accident or not and she decided to drive away then wait hours before calling miss Roberts and said John’s dead then hung up. I mean who does that.
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  819.  @kerrygold6494 he can’t and nobody can. Yet they believe she was framed. Americans have lost their brains
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  820. Wtf is going on with the American court system ? It baffles me how many times I watch these court cases, hearings and trials and how often they have things upside down. What on earth was she doing in court for this, ? He breaks her jaw he beats his grandma, she has bruises on the back of her head🙄 I mean what’s going on there? Wes the DA bored and not doing much ? Seriously this is a joke. She is probably no angel and I get that but how would you go living with a monster with his proven history of beating women, elderly and children? Hope she has a peaceful life and it’s all up hill from here. All the best young lady. Steve from Aus 👍
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  821. Psychopath Karen. Narcissistic and twisted.
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  822.  @corrinnajordan2749 haha. Her tail light was already busted as pause and zoom shows that and if you pause and zoom just before when the love tap happens, nothing falls. You do know Kaylee testified that Karen mentioned her damaged tail light at 4;50 am. That’s 17 mins before her leaving.
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  823. 😂😂😂😂.
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  824. Karen is guilty
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  825. Would it matter if it was a brothel ? Guilty Karen.
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  826. Guilty. Trolls must have common sense as I don’t see any free Karen’s with any intellect whatsoever. Something is very wrong. It’s like they are watching a mirage.
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  827.  @aznaturegirl how do you know. Were you there? Why did she lie and why change your story 3 times. Why admit it at first? That to me is not innocent. Though you seem certain. Maybe she just wanted to be charged hey? Lol
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  828. Dummy’s left right and centre
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  829. This little hero needs to pull up. Did he blame John again? He’s a coward. He has no idea.
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  830. Karen is still drunk
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  831. Karen’s phone. Deleted Google searches.
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  832.  @courtgood52588 there’s more than enough evidence. 8 to 4 manslaughter. I believe it is murder but too hard to prove in court. She knew what she did and didn’t reverse by accident. 14 minutes later she said nobody knows where you are? Lol. Ok Karen. First it has to be presented properly and 2nd you have to hope there is no Karen’s and no turtles. Probably impossible as they are popping up all around. Especially with the nonsense thrown up before the trial Started. Fact is none was true and shown to be untrue. Google searches lol ridiculous John going on a house walking up at stairs lol. How? He never moved close to when he walks out of Karen’s car. She swiped him then left him. The conspiracies were ridiculous and even the jury dismissed it quickly. How’s one not guilty. She said the car couldn’t cause the hypothermia 😅😅😅. Wtf is she doing on a jury. Strange. Jury’s cannot be trusted. It should be left to 3 or 5 judges. With one head judge. Some people went into that trial already mind made up. One was bragging about it. If you have people that do that then what’s it all come to. Disgusting. Open mind no bias. Rule on the evidence and the actions of the person up on trial. Karen’s actions were damning. Definitely guilty. Simple hit and run. It’s grown aliens legs. Not sure how we got here. Well I do actually. Karen started a trial through YouTube before the trial even started. Harassment of state witnesses etc. it’s a mess. Karen killed and killed again and again. She should be given the death penalty to be fair. Total destruction. Psychopath
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  833.  @estrella5935 It’s not the pubs they are after. It’s Karen. They are the side shows. Karen has to get up on the stand and explain 12 lies lol. Impossible
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  834.  @HoldMyLatte-x There’s a stack of evidence. It just needs proper presentation
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  835. Omg. What is going on here. It’s never ending. There’s an epidemic happening. Woman are killing at a rate of knots. You have only fans stabbing her man and says she threw it🙄 We have another stabbing killing lady here. You have women running their boyfriends over. Poisoning them. Shooting then. Hiring hit men. What’s amazing is many of these females are having supporters like they are a English premier league football team. Unreal.
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  836. Wow. Condolences
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  837. Well said. The fans and turtles ignore this fact.
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  838. Where ? When ? Haha.
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  839. Exactly.
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  840.  @kimberlychelen9890 . You are brainless
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  841. I thought she was. After the trial I knew she was. Guilty.
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  842.  @MrBetc exactly.
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  843. Whoever was or are harassing witnesses are low life’s.
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  844. Karen murdered the guy named John Okeefe
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  845. No
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  846.  @NotYourBizz no it’s what she did. Also the way she is won’t help her as she’s deranged. Psychopath. Unhinged. Narcissist. Guilty. Life
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  847. Possibly. Vinnie I’ve always liked, did turn to the dark dude in that case. Who knows ? Ashley is getting a purple crowd. Let’s hope these killers don’t get fan clubs in every trial and it actually becomes an epidemic.
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  848.  @burcugriffin5501 Mate there’s that much evidence it’s not funny. One part of many , Simple question to you? How does Karen’s tail light get busted? The morning in question, 4;50 am Karen uses Kaylee’s phone and makes a call and mentioned her busted tail light. So 2 witnesses one of them Kaylee. 17 min later 5;07am you clearly see a gaping hole in jerked tail light and I’ve paused and closed in on it so even Stevie wonder can see it. It’s one of many facts but I’m asking you, how did it break ? Where did it break and when did it break ? Explain it to me if possible.
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  849. Charlie and the murder factory Mumma bear was having an each way bet. Not positive whether it’s cops or gangsters. She’s gunna walk the plank in time. Charlie we know is cooked. Going to hard to nail Wendy for anything other than lighter charges. Donna is next and if that goes to the states plans then they may just take a free swipe at Wendy. Wendy is so self centred, reading her from day one, she knew that she was clear for conspiring to kill Dan Markel, and I’m sure mother and son had it set up that way. Her talking about stuff with Jeffrey a week before was her covering her own arse. Truth is, she don’t care about her brother. She’s a manipulative spoilt little selfish brat.
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  850.  @joes.4149 Scooby Doo and shaggy. The waved to Karen at the same time as her psycho reverse 😂. The were beating John up and they accidentally punched her taillight while she was at your speed 😅
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  851.  @jennypham3998 yep and she looks older. Aged very badly.
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  852. Nick haha. He’s a fan boy.
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  853. All roads lead to Karen read. Jackson spun his conspiracy theories once more and none of them show any evidence. The state actually showed what happened and when. Karen was a wrecking machine even before the killing of John. She was definitely a wrecking machine driving from the water fall till she found John when he was a ball of snow lol. She definitely went and checked the body earlier. Guilty.
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  854.  @Kwisatz_HaderachXIII o watched it all and was waiting for this so called conspiracy. As usual they are made up fairy stories. A conspiracy is not evidence. All roads lead to Karen read. She is cold blooded and cares for no one but herself. She killed John Okeefe. Or incapacitated him and then let him die slowly instead of getting help. He could of been saved. She was too worried about saving herself.
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  855. Because the kids will testify next. It’s leading into that night and Karen in general. The kids want justice for their uncle.
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  856.  @notsorryyouretriggered you’d be angry if someone killed your friend and then led the circus into town.
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  857.  @sarasmilesco8551 karma will come his way. He better watch himself turtle.
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  858. Another Karen read Wendy Adelson. Wonder if she gets a fan club like killer Karen.
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  859. He actually tried to get the ring footage. Karen deleted it and we know why
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  860. Wtf was this even at a hearing? What drugs is the DA on ? What’s going on with the American court system ? It’s all very baffling for a simple man from Australia. I don’t get it. He’s a wife beating, grandma beating child abusing scumbag. She needs a reward not a bloody trial. Unbelievable. How about the court system get their act together. The things that go to court and the things that don’t go to court are all over the joint. Good luck Ashley and find a good bloke or stay single. That goes for every woman and vice versa for men.
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  861. No canine DNA means no dog. Simple. Also the fact it looks nothing like anything from any dog I’ve seen and I trained hunting dogs for over 20 years. It’s almost comedy suggesting it
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  862.  @carlabannink1460 missing video ? That’s lucky talking about what he saw. Though he didn’t go there at 5. He was there 5;30 he says. though he changed his story so many times. He ran over a basketball ring and had zero idea on time. Yet he says he sees a ford edge at what time ? He didn’t see any body all night even at 5;30 so he didn’t see nothing. He said a light coloured car and no one owns a light coloured fire edge. He probably saw Karen’s cat at 5;20 when she was viewing the body and smiling at her dirty work. She smiles when she sees the autopsy photos. That’s Normal isn’t it. Norman for a psychopath. You didn’t answer the question. What if it shows Karen going back to the body of John with GPS then leaning again? What is it shows the time the twilight broke and it was 12:32am. What ? You still going to make excuses?
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  863. Another Karen. Only difference is this one is good looking.
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  864. Maybe she shouldn’t have killed a man through jealousy and anger. Psycho lady. Has everyone fooled.
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  865. Go watch the grifters then.
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  866. Karen lied numerous times. Remember at first she said she left him at the pub lol. Ok Karen. Then when Jen said what are you talking about, her story changed. It changed many times.
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  867. Karen had 6 nut dials. Do the pinkies tell you this ? Course not. Search was done at 6;23 am. Proven.
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  868. These fairy stories are getting better by the day. What I want to know is, why did Karen have 4 different explanations of the night and the other one was, she was too drunk to remember ?
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  869. Haha. Yeah. Sure. Karen reversed took a nap and blamed a plow.
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  870. Yes. That’s in evidence. At the time of the reversal. John’s phone moves a short distance then doesn’t move again. It’s open and shut for me.
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  871.  @notsorryyouretriggered it’s fact. Stop your lying. Is that turtle boy?
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  872.  @MakeupMobster her attorney said it on her behalf. What are you talking about. He also said it wasn’t that hard. Those are Karen’s words and yanetti spoke on her behalf. That’s fact.
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  873.  @GPDogDrool I delete all calls every day. What’s to explain? Lol. They have his phone and know her phone called him so what’s the point of your argument? The texts are there in black and white. Karen is in the car with him at that time. Jen is wondering why the heck they aren’t coming in. They were arguing at this time in the car. Eventually John gets out and she hits him and his phone doesn’t move seconds after she reversed at speed. His phone stays on the lawn underneath him. Explain that. First Karen said she left him at the pub. Then when caught in a lie she switched stories many times. She Karen demanded to go to 34 Fairview. Then runs out of the car saying there’s John. No one could see anything but she knows it’s John ? Seriously explain that. Why say she hit him. She’s a deadly dangerous nut job. She hit him whether trying to scare him or just being angry and hit him. She could have gotten help there and then but panicked, went home and sat on it for hours. Probably scared frantic as anyone would be. John’s daughter asks where is he ? Her reply having a sleep over which he never did. If he’s having a sleep over then why the panic at 5:30 when she rings Karen through the daughters phone ? Why are you panicking if he’s having a sleep over ? It’s plain as day she is the culprit. The rest of it is fairy story stuff. Next it will be a kangaroo that attacked John. She admitted it. Her lawyer said it was a total accident then they changed tacks. Who’s story telling here. 4 different stories from Karen. The daughter will testify. She’s going down if justice is served properly.
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  874. Because she’s a narcissist. No remorse.
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  875. Who was the muppet who said that? What a joke.
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  876. That’s a lot of evidence against her. Look at it and it might help you.
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  877.  @SharpTac It doesn’t take the sharpest tack in the box to work Karen out does it. She is also selfish, a cheater. Extremely Jealous, a sociopath. There’s math more things wrong with her too. Anyone who says she hasn’t got issues after reading her texts to John Okeefe must have severe issues themselves.
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  878.  @IbelieveinKaren he was dude swiped duh. That’s why her taillight is in microscopic fragments embedded in his sleeve. Same sleeve of the injured arm. Not all car accidents are the same. Especially in reverse and clipped.
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  879. Vinnie I know you have to talk to the masses as it’s ratings isn’t it. It was proven he didn’t go inside the house. So stop the nonsense. Google search didn’t happen. Deal with it. Scooby doo didn’t attack him. It’s like watching an alien show. Karen is the killer. She killed him slowly too. Then blamed anyone and everyone she could. There isn’t a woman who could possibly be as bad as her right now.
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  880. Ashamed of Karen read and those people who don’t work and hold signs all day
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  881. Did he ? What with conspiracies? No evidence with anything he said. Surprised he didn’t blame Ronald McDonald too.
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  882. Lol. No. The glass was close to his body. His elbow broke the tail light. That’s why it’s scraped up.
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  883. What happens after that incident the hug and the swearing between Karen and the young sister is important as the kids will testify what happened after this.
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  884. Well said
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  885.  @izmac9146 Making things up is not good for you
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  886. Total Scapegoat. The lack of real evidence of her committing anything is baffling that we have a case and more than likely she will get time for sometime. What sort of world is it where you can guess what somebody knew. Mind readers are we. The jury or part of them have to have doubts. If there’s a verdict of guilt, then I’ll know that there’s sheep in that building.
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  887. He has to go. Jackson’s had 9 lives. He’s had 47 lives. Fraud. Lying to a judge then jury about Arcca. Then he says court misconduct. Wow. He is a pig.
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  888. What a load of crap.
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  889. I don’t trust the jury.
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  890. That’s what the jury should do with this ridiculous conspiracy. Instead of evidence Jackson goes on about the conspiracy which has no evidence. Karen definitely looked away when she got him. She looked away for 6 hours
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  891. She’s guilty. It’s simple
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  892. Narcissistic psychopaths think they are better than everyone. She doesn’t have empathy. Cold blooded witch.
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  893.  @IFS2023 She did. Admitted it in her first court hearing too. No criminal intent
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  894. I could say the same about mick who’s Karen’s fan boy. What’s the difference? One is actually speaking facts and the other is Nick who’s like a prep when it comes to crime and evidence.
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  895.  @stephanied6451 guilty. No doubt
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  896. So was Jack the Ripper of she’s innocent 😂. She’s as guilty as anyone I have ever seen.
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  897.  @kilocharlie-tango8823 As I see yours. You avoided the question. Do you say this is too biased when you watch those Karen read shows that favour her? Because I don’t see you sooking it there. Only when it doesn’t suit you yes? Donors ok to favour Karen but not ok to favour the prosecution if the evidence to that person leads them there ? Is it ok or not ?
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  898.  @kilocharlie-tango8823 maybe you should. Tell them how favourable to Karen they are and what a disgrace they is to fairness
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  899. How come nothing was on the ground when you reversed into that car ??? Hardly touched the car.
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  900. Are you Another man hater ? Just a question not a statement! Imagine if every jury with people like you Amy. Your country would be more of a shambles
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  901.  @OLEKBambo you said he was beaten fell and died. So Karen’s reversing at 12:32:04 and it ends at 12:32:10. John stops moving at 12:32;16. Am. So was he copping this beating during Karen’s reversal ? He stopped moving when she stopped reversing. She’s guilty. She said no criminal intent at her first hearing and told us she had a brain tumour. So brain tumour was a lie. Then Jackson jumped in and went with conspiracy theory like he did with Kevin spacey and got the abuser off. She said he was dead at 5am. 5;20am she said he’s dead and plow killed him. This is after she supposedly dropped him off and he went in the house and then she thought he was cheating. The f—-ing pervert. I f—-ing hate you 12:37am. So she says at 5;20am a plow did this. Killed him. How many plows have killed people in human history? 1. ? 3 ? Lol. Billion to 1. Then she finds him incapacitated in snow. What are the odds. You m sure you are smart. How smart ? Who cares. Smart enough to think and say ok, she probably said a plow killed him because she knows he’s dead or close to death in snow. Would you think that or not? Curious?
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  902.  @LawNerdSoph And? What does that mean ? Reporters are saying asking did John go in the house. ? So he tells all to make sure you tell them he never went in the house. That’s not evidence bro. Lol. What is evidence is GPS coordinates that were built for military purposes , telling us in no uncertain terms, that phone his phone never entered the house. Now considering his phone moves just before Karen reversed and at the time of her reverse and sits in the same spot exactly where his body and phone are more then 5 hours later, then it’s actually very safe to say John Okeefe never entered the house. So Karen in 2 interviews says she dropped him off at the foot of the driveway. He is never near the foot of the driveway. She saying she is calling and texting after 2 mins waiting. Phone records show is she’s lying again twice. No calls or texts were made there. She never stopped at the foot of the driveway. John’s moving from middle house corner property close to where he is found then in front of next door. So she’s lying. 5 lies just in that alone. 2 different interviews. They are factual lies. Not tell them he didn’t come in the house. He didn’t come in the house so where’s the lie? 🤩. She’s a killer. Anyone who says he’s dead and a plow killed him. Then amazingly has X-ray vision Karen the incredible eye sight and finds him in snow is guilty. How many people did from plows. ? She said a low killed him. She knew he’s dead or close to in the snow. That’s why she said plow. Why dope could work that out. Even a conspiracy muncher would say geez.
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  903.  @LawNerdSoph That’s not evidence lol. Same as butt dials is not evidence. Karen had 6 butt dials that people fail to mention? Strange hey. Media were starting to hound. I’d make sure that I told everyone that make sure you tell the media that he didn’t come in the house. Normal dude. What’s not normal is reversing line a crazy woman. Bring the unhinged and psycho angry. Have pieces of your car all over the scene and all over John. Having a busted tailight with a gaping hole in it at 5;07am. Guilty.
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  904.  @p369dangyoufine Karen ?
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  905. Great day for justice. On ya Matt..
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  906.  @brandonnorris2898 Brando. It matters little who have them up. It’s what’s inside them. Jackson Arcca. Who ramifications
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  907. Wouldn’t you think he would be watched early days. He also has a ankle monitor on. His truck has GPS. So far they have found zero. If they keep finding zero then this case isn’t going anywhere.
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  908.  @Deondra72 quiet Karen.
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  909.  @cmd76323 look at your profile. McCabe tooth ? Serious head case
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  910.  @ibelongtoo123 they lost respect when Matt became a fan boy and v asked Karen how she was holding up a while back. I mean when has it been moral to ask a killer on trial for murder how she’s holding up. What a pathetic excuse for a man he is. Diane Manashee said similar about him years ago and she was spot on. Then Vinny turned to the dark side and jumped on the conspiracy. Vinnie of all people keeping the cult happy with his ludicrous take on things. Thankfully the Brunette woman had the balls today how disgusting it was for people to be harassing the family of the deceased and also attacking witnesses who weren’t on trial. So I gather you are coming from a conspiracy Angie. I’m sure they weren’t excepting a male attorney to get on and say he hates Karen and she’s a disgrace with this whole charade. He just took the words out of most men’s mouths. Normal men don’t watch turtle tv or are pink Karen’s.
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  911.  @ibelongtoo123 Huh ? Zero evidence? It’s damning. She’s a killer. She took a nap in between too. Then woke and blames a plow. A plow killed John he’s dead. That’s like 5 billion to 1. So is he cheating? Sleeping ? Or dead from a plow ? Haha. Yeah ok Karen. We swiped him. She admitted it on court at the first hearing. She stopped reversing John stopped moving within 8 seconds. 12:32am. Then at 12:46 she says John where are you ? Nobody knows where you are ? Nobody knows? Didn’t you drop him off like 14 mins ago Karen ? Where else is he gunna be? There’s a blizzard happening. Where’s he gone? Going for a midnight jog ? Lol. The plow did it Karen lol. Guilty. No brainer. We heard her anger at 12:37am. She’s psycho angry. She f—ing hates him. Guilty
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  912.  @trish818 Matt is a fan boy. That isn’t professional. Asking an accused killer on how she’s holding up like poor Karen. Mate he needs to be sorted. Though not as much as turtle girl. He heads to be properly sorted. Harasses women and children or those of them men he is harassed. Am we will go to your kids sporting events and your wives work place. We won’t stop. This is all started from Cujo herself. Karen read. The conspiracy is ludicrous. It’s now a money spinner. Yep great world. Make up stories. Accuse innocent people make money.
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  913. America have a great record of putting the innocent away and letting the guilty off. It’s like court lotto. Seriously, I watched that trial and was gobsmacked he got off. Joke.
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  914. So the defence says the lab stuffed up haha. What a fraud Karen Read is. So everyone can now bin the dog bite myth. Did the bacon attack him 😂😂. What a load of crap this trial is. Karen the lizard witch is a cold as ice killer.
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  915.  @jewels07 the only lies that are spread are from the pink turtle tribe. Moronic followers. They have misinformation fed to them daily. It’s a money spinner too. Conspiracy theories make money. They do t care about Karen. It’s dollars. Wake up. She left John for dead. Then took a nap. Then blames a plow. Seriously. It’s ludicrous. She is a cheating unhinged psychopath. She wasn’t going reverse at serious speed to show off now was she. He never moved again after this and GPS coordinates prove this. Yet you still get these fairy stories about a house a dog 🥴 There’s zero evidence of that. It’s a cover. It’s to create reasonable doubt and people believe anything as they are stupid. How about all of you go through the evidence and the evidence alone. Not YouTube conspiracies. It’s damning. It’s bang on the data. She and only Karen killed John. It’s an easy case to be honest.
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  916. Stop defending women who kill men.
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  917. The only thing planted in this case, is a witches spell over many of the public. That was done by the witch herself Karen.
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  918.  @Ieezeca lol
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  919.  @leanndoolin4284 10 year old are smarter and definitely have lie common sense than you. McAlberts 🤣. Grow up.
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  920.  @leanndoolin4284  a child could see Karen’s guilty. It was it the plow Karen 😅. She stopped reversing John stopped moving. Fact. John didn’t go in any house. Fact. GOS coordinates prove that. The conspiracy tv shows won’t tell you they lol. The cover up was all debunked and is like talking tooth fairy. That’s not evidence. It’s YouTube gimmick tv. Karen’s a killer. Fact.
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  921.  @leanndoolin4284 Hey 2 year old Shes guilty. The evidence as is a strong as any hit and run. The data is bang on. GPS. Bang on. Karen’s psycho attitude before and after. Damning. She’s a unhinged crazy dangerous girlfriend who lost her marbles.
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  922. Never said what ? She had a brain tumour ? That John does and the plow did it ? I am not sure what you are saying ? No criminal intent ? I can assure you, no attorney will say anything without the clients permission. No idea which lie of Karen’s you are talkie about. There’s so many. It’s hard to keep track.
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  923.  @trish818 listen stupid. She was. His DNA is inside the housing. So johns DNA is inside the housing of a then brand new car. So think brainiac. Think. John didn’t work at Lexus did he. ? Fitting tailights ? So how does his DNA get under a sealed tailight? Simple explanation would be that a part of John came Into contact with that tailight when it broke. So not having the evidence as far as Arcca go is a huge mistake. You shouldn’t form an opinion without evidence. Duh. Karen killed John. Took a nap. Woke and blamed a plow. Like a billion to 1 and why is John dead Karen and how did this plow kill him ? Didn’t you watch him inside? That’s one of your many stories. Though why at 2 12:32 am when she stopped that psycho reverse did John never move again. Why does it never have John in any house GPS coordinates that are military built. Why at 12:51am did you say where are you John. Nobody knows where you are. Repeat that last sentence. Nobody knows where you are? What less than 20 mins after you dropped him off ? Or do you mean nobody knows you are wiped out in the corner of the property. Guilty. It’s a simple hit and run. Maybe look all evidence. Karen is the killer. Not frosty the snowman
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  924.  @frankh.3849 they’ve already gone though it. They gave it the all clear. Why do you think we are on trial lol. Clearing the conspiracy backs up that she killed John. It’s a very simple hit and run and people need to take their conspiracy goggles off.
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  925. Not one person came out of any house. The next door house was almost as close to the body. Did they come out? Across that small road ? Anyone ?
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  926.  @Gala_tha_Prince it wasn’t right after. Get the facts right. It was months later and after the dog attacked another dog and then the owner
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  927.  @vitalucas9452 No, I said it because she is not normal. Normal people don’t nearly kill a men then let him freeze to death.
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  928.  @harley6222 Do you make it bio as you go ? Or listen to conspiracy tv? No evidence of him cheating. He hugged a friend and she went Linda Blair on the woman then John. Karen’s an unhinged psycho. Read those msgs the day before. Whack job. She’s a killer
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  929. It’s great.
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  930. Karen is a duck. A ducking killer.
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  931.  @LeannaMurphy-mx7zy lol. Planned on the plow? Karen blamed the plow 🥴. GPS coordinates have John not moving 8 seconds after Karen is reversing. GPS doesn’t have John on the house. That’s proven. Too much turtle tv maybe?
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  932.  @Redhead-v9o exactly. As guilty as it gets. Then she finds him in snow. Sure Karen.
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  933. I’m fairly sure they have common sense. It’s rare I know. Many have a gap up there.
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  934. Worst commentary I’ve ever heard on a case. She either lied or she hadn’t watched the trial at all. I cannot believe they didn’t pull her up there. Michelle didn’t throw rubbish in any bin so why did this lady say 3 times she did ? No wonder there’s public bias, when you have media dribble like this.
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  935. The dog is alive. What’s it matter. It’s proven to be not a canine. Unless this dog has no canine and no bottom jaw lol.
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  936. Could you imagine the amount of DNA from a canine that would be on that shirt with rips tares with teeth?? This lady that hasn’t worked since 1995 lol that’s 30 years ago. Did canine DNA get tested in 1995 ? No it didn’t. She knows zero about that. She will more than likely be unable to be a defence witness because of the way she involved herself into this case less than a month ago.
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  937.  @Hadria7777  spot on.
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  938.  @gmimi2 There was a sign on the door dumb dumb. No Guns allowed. No wonder your country is a mess
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  939.  @elizabethcompton738 Had he not had the gun where it was disallowed then we wouldn’t be having this convo and a father wouldn’t be shot dead over nothing. That old man got going because he knew he had back up in his pocket. No wonder the country is a mess. It is bottom 3 worst country’s in the world if we take out 3rd world. The gun powder is sniffed from a toddlers age over there and you wonder why the murder rate is astronomical. To take a step further, how on earth is a person allowed an MR15. How on earth are people allowed to own 150 guns. It is so far gone the laws and the culture that the killings will just get higher in numbers. Kids going to school ffs. Why would you want to send your kids to school when you would be in fear until they got home. The high powered guns should have been banned long ago. You want to go hunting then ok but high powered semi automatics not allowed. Guns should be locked up not for walking the streets with. I’m telling you that it’s a lot easier to kill yourself with a gun then jumping off a cliff. That’s why the suicide rate is way up. England years ago and Australia years ago had mass shootings and they didn’t sit on their hands and say ahh well. They changed the laws. Australia has had 1 mass shooting in 30 years England the same. No school shootings for kids to worry about. Maybe If America had half a brain, things would change but guess what, they don’t. It is imploding. That amongst many other things. Country’s once upon a time did look up to the US. I can tell you they do not anymore. It’s painful to watch. Living there it must all seem normal. It doesn’t from a far. It is terrible. Every day a mass shooting. It will never change. Culture. Lastly don’t give me the trump line of oh mental illness. Every other country has similar rates of mental illness. It’s guns. They are the real killer.
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  940. Karen read reminds me of the sister upstairs in pet Sematary Got that similar look.
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  941.  @jenniferruth812 What garbage you speaking. She killed a man. She admitted it. She takes a nap instead of saving him. Wakes up with fairy stories about killer plows. Said she left him at the waterfall. Says he’s dead at 5am. The plow did it. Her reverse at 12:32 coincidence with John never moving again. Her tailight is at the scene. The damage to her car is seen on camera at 5;07am. Zoom it. Blind Freddy can see it. So that fits out any ridiculous conspiracy. Cops didn’t chase her at 12:32 did they 🥴 She has X-ray vision at 6am and spots John. It shouldn’t be hard for a normal mind to think this through. She’s a jealous cheating unhinged woman proven by her calls the day before and voicemails. 18 calls. He wants to be left alone. Instead she barrages him. Nut case. She admitted it at the scene heard by many. She asks how long to without a coat. Only she knew how long he’s been there for duh. In court she said no criminal intent meaning it was an accident. On text she wrote to Yanatti that she didn’t think she got him that hard. She’s got 19 different stories. And you believe she’s truly innocent? Wow. Either you have zero idea about data and GPS and forensics or you listen to too much of the turtle channels making things up. No one else killed John. Just Karen. The FBI have cleared all occupied people in that house. We wouldn’t be heading for a 2nd trial other wise. It’s a Simple hit and run. The acra guys were full of it and didn’t even have vehicles data or dna or crime scene or anything for that matter. It’s a Simple hit and run. It’s grown alien legs to get her off. Killer Karen needs to pay
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  942. There isn’t a dog involved. The defence has dropped that fanciful theory. Tests for DNA were done early and repeated. Reads team just like throwing up garbage to stooge the media and her fans. She’s a killer and a liar.
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  943. Sure. She’s cooked boy
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  944. 6 months after. They had to go to court a 5 months after John dies because it went at a dog and the owner who tried to protect their dog. So maybe get the facts correct. The dog is in a farm house now. It matters little. There is no canine DNA and if you know anything about dogs. They breath DNA their mouths are saturated. Lol. No doggy involved
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  945. I killed him I killed him I killed him. Jackson went off the rails. He’s still going on about conspiracies with zero evidence. Where’s the so called cover up you promised ? It’s invisible wacko Jacko. Karen’s actions say it all. Fancy leaving him to die as you only cared about your little ole self. I cannot explain what type of person does that. She sees him under a pile of snow when nobody could see anything. She admits it several times to several people then her story changed bit by bit. Then she pushed the blame everyone else trick and even to those that were helping her. Nice one Karen. Karen by name Karen by nature. Hopefully the jury look past the Jackson bluff and the yanetti mirage and send her to prison where she belongs.
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  946. Bumper to bumper. Same height. Think about it. Plus nothing is on the ground then.
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  947. It sure has. The culture is a mess and it’s actually a terrible country.
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  948.  @drewc771 None.
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  949. I didn’t know you could go to prison for bad words said in texts to friends ?? When was this law brought in? I know you can go to jail for killing a man. Or you should.
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  950.  @qortizone canine DNA wasn’t even in science when she last worked. She was a joke. Seriously. Saw the Boston globe 😂. Half way through a trial. She’s got to go.
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  951. She’s still a killer.
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  952. Blame Karen
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  953.  @jeangillespie5386 did you ? Guilty.
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  954.  @jeangillespie5386 Haha. You can’t be serious. She admitted it. She stopped reversing and John stopped moving. Like 6 seconds. GPS coordinates prove he John didn’t go in a house. So it’s either frosty the snowman or Karen read. The plow? Lol. My boyfriend is dead and a plow killed him ? Billion to 1. Unless you know he’s injured or dead in the snow. It shouldn’t be hard. Lol. I’ve he we seen anyone so guilty as Karen. She’s burnt a boyfriend’s car down early 20s. She stabbed a boyfriend in the leg in her early 30s. Next you’ll say she’s not a cheater and she’s a calm person. Snaps like a biscuit. Her tailight is busted at 5;07am on camera. That ends this ridiculous conspiracy right there. Unless proctor chased her with a hammer while she’s reversing at 12:32am. 🥹
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  955.  @jeangillespie5386 Great response. Karen Theplowdidit Read. Haha. Imagine believing her after she said a plow killed my boyfriend,, so one minute he’s cheating then a plow killed him lol. Normal stuff yeah. The conspiracy riders. No evidence not it’s a conspiracy for sure. Feds found nothing and if there was something here, they definitely would have found it. Free Karen’s are too stupid to think about this. They’ll just keep going. Feds are coming 😱
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  956. Lol the only person that knew he was dead then was Karen. You cannot google 2 things at once. That tells me that when the expert comes in it will show that the actual search was done after 6. The app was never fully shut.
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  957. This is on repeat.
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  958. Truck has GPS. So answer is no.
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  959. That’s sad. A killer walks
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  960. You need evidence. Not inference upon inference. That’s how innocent people get locked up. I’m not saying he is that but get the proof first.
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  961.  @carebear6763 Johns DNA inside the housing of Karen’s tailight for starters. It was a brand spanking new car at the time. Think. Logic. John didn’t build tailights for Toyota did he ? Her reverse and John not moving after 6 seconds. GPS coordinates and vehicles data tell us she did it. The evidence is there. Her behaviour. Like a demon 5 mins later. She as angry she reversed she was drunk and she took off. The extra data might really put her away. Of it shows when the tailight is damaged and of it shows GPS and Karen going back to John’s body at 5;20 then that’s murder. By law
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  962.  @lynngallagher7456 they actually do. They found no cover up she couldn’t cheat Karen.
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  963. Lol 😂😂
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  964. Her jealousy and unhinged texting the day before. Do it shows she’s a Nutter. Though being unhinged isn’t enough of course. She and John are together on camera getting into her car. His GPS is showing is where they are going. We can track them. He when a mile away roughly calls McCabe and asked for the exact address. He puts it into Waize. Karen missed the torn off. He is in that car from 12:24 am till 12:32am as there’s no movement towards a house. So that theory is dead. He didn’t ever enter that house. Great for conspiracy tv but in reality it’s just goldilocks stuff. As soon as there’s movement at 12:31:58 from John’s phone is slowly going from our front of the next doors house and towards 34 Fairview. At 12:32:04 Karen reversed like a crazy woman. At 12:32:08 there’s consistency with a pedestrian strike. At 12:32:16 John stops moving. No movement until he’s put on a stretcher at 6:15am. Is that isn’t Damning enough. His hair is on her back bumper His DNA is inside the housing of Karen’s tailight. Well it was a brand new car. Think about it. Her tailight on camera at 5;07 am and 8:23am with a gaping hole in it. It’s busted. So the conspiracy is dead and hods zero water. Time machines sone exist snd proctor was many miles away. He wasn’t breaking into johns garage. Karen mentioned her tailight at 4;40am. Kaylee testified to that. She admits it. No criminal intent your honour. Then months go by and she had 53 different stories since. Guilty. It’s impossible for her not to be guilty. I haven’t even mentioned the fact she said John is dead at 5am. Said a plus killed John at 5;20. Why a plow? Ohh yeah she finds him in snow 40 mins later. At the scene she didn’t say he went ins house. She made that up months later. Guilty. Simple hit and run. Why we are here? Conspiracy? Americans love them. How perfect is it for Karen. The weather conditions. She’s smoked John on a cops front lawn. Wow perfect. And a cop calls her terrible things in private texts. What a conspiracy cocktail this it. Fact is it’s a fairy story. Defence will use it. YouTube people make a heap of money on it. All great. Only problem is, you have a killer parading around like a Royal. You have innocent people accused and deranged individuals are taking it too far and a blogger has started that. This is just the beginning. American courts will have this as the norm soon. Media will be the justice system. He’s it a next. Kholberger. Seriously. This is the beginning. If the justice system doesn’t take care of witness harassment charges against turtle. Of it allows the media to keep Karen out of jail then what’s to say this won’t happen many times a year in future.
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  965. Another Karen Read. Psychopaths who kill their partners. No mercy. Selfish entitled killers.
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  966. Make him write on a blackboard I must not swear again lol. Yeah. Huge crime.
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  967. Thought the judge was corrupt? Oh that’s the free Karen crew. Bright lot they are. As long as the interviews come in and more tech stream data from Karen’s weapon, her car comes in. Interviews. ——. I thought did I tag his knee. Like did I clip him. He didn’t look mortally wounded. Oh so that’s when you dropped him off? Yes it would have to be then. Guilty. Ridiculous conspiracy still kicking around. Next the defence will say an alien drove Karen’s car after the waterfall.
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  968. Karen read is a man’s worst nightmare. John was so unlucky getting stuck with that
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  969. Karen read. Yea true. She stinks of evil.
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  970. When covered with snow 😂 use your noggin mate.
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  971. And ? Killers aren’t normal in action or speak. Just looks at Karen now and it shows she’s still unhinged
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  972.  @iamkendraofficial2174 too much evidence Should have been a simple hit and run. Somehow the case has been taken over by aliens.
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  973. She won’t be smiling soon
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  974. The whole world is corrupt. That doesn’t mean Karen Read didn’t kill John Read Okeefe though. Unless you believe in time machines then the evidence is Damning against her. It’s clear if you study the data. Karen is the killer.
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  975.  @clarissah8999  Yes it’s a bit confusing as I’ve heard different reports on that from different sources.
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  976. Nick is thick
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  977. People are just thick. They clan together and love a conspiracy especially against police. Karen killed John alone. It’s not rocket science. Though the attorney is so pathetic that he is blowing it daily. She is the killer. Whether she goes is another story.
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  978.  @leanndoolin4284  Karen. Stop drinking
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  979. To soft on Jackson.
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  980. She doesn’t like you. So needy
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  981.  @1e2b9- evidence proves guilt
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  982. Ask Karen. She said she dropped him off and left at first. Then she said she waited 10 mins as the evidence was trickling in. So she said she’s there for 10 mins calling and texting John. We knows that’s another lie. Firstly she made no calls or texts while out front. They weren’t made until 12:34 12:34 22:35 12;36 when she’s flying to johns. She didn’t leave any voicemail until 12:37. John I f—-g hate you. Psycho Karen at her loving best.
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  983.  @paigemprice by her shadow. Haha. Framed. Stop the comedy
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  984.  @chilenitaprotrump you think it’s funny like Karen do you ? Killing a cop is ok in your world? Is that what you are saying ?
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  985.  @Schnickums Maybe because he is on ice all night. His arm elbow area looked to be swelled to me. Oh the dog bites. I cannot take any person serious if the mention dog bites. 😂. A dog with no DNA. Use your noggin man.
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  986.  @naomijohnson7850 lol the FBI did do an investigation. Guess who’s the only person they couldn’t clear ?? Guess what they found? A foul mouth cop. That’s it. Anything would have to be turned over. 3 of these guests have been attorneys. They know a whole lot more then the grifters. Wake up. Guilty as F. Arcca was the only thing free Karen’s could hang their hat on. Now it’s nothing. Zero. She’s a killer.
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  987.  @naomijohnson7850 are you fried upstairs or what ? Feds?? Arcca dummy not the feds. What they said is irrelevant. They’ve just been caught lying to the judge the jury and the world. The stupidest comment I’ve read today is yours. I have read plenty. Congrats. You can still delete it. Lol.
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  988.  @naomijohnson7850 do you know what’s going on? Arcca were working with the defence and said to judge and jury they were not. Do you understand the ramifications of this?? The company can actually get sued. Seriously for millions. They are frauds. Wake up
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  989.  @naomijohnson7850  the Feds didn’t speak Naomi. Wake up. That was Arcca. The company we’ve heard lie to the judge and Jury. That’s fraud and against the jaw. You do know that yes? Whatever they said before is irrelevant. They lied. Proven.
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  990. Frozen in ice. Slowly seeping
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  991. Who do court tv delete my comments
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  992. Why do people kill. Well keys go with females. It’s usually their kids or their partners or ex partners. Some do it for money. Sone just lose it in that moment. Some plan it sometimes it’s jealousy. The stars show that women are more likely to kill the ones they love then men. I suppose there’s part of your answer. I’m guessing anger and jealousy combined with drinking made her lose it in that moment. Why leave him there? Panic and just scared. She could have saved him and that’s the worst part. That’s why it’s murder in the 2nd. She caused it then could have helped. She didn’t. More worried about saving her own self. Evil.
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  993.  @leanndoolin4284 guilty
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  994.  @notsorryyouretriggered Karen put the pipe down and no more vodka
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  995.  @acc4465 there some absolute dumb dumbs that do. Well maybe they don’t but it’s their only excitement.
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  996.  @Rossi4040 He had pizza for lunch with his nephew Patrick’s. Logically that’s where pig come from. Not dog treats. If it’s a dog bite then the dog DNA would saturate any area it went near. It’s not going to leave none of its self yet some of a treat it had. Think logically. It’s getting beyond a joke reading so much rubbish
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  997.  @MariaM-up2he Guilty Equals Evil 👿 Karen is pure evil. To the core.
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  998.  @ROBINstrawBERRYwine just because she’s unhinged, psychotic a sociopath a narcissist doesn’t mean she’s not guilty. She’s one twisted woman. Norman bates vibes had Karen and she’s dressed as Norman’s mother. She’s also extremely jealous and super selfish. Did I mention she is a cheating woman too? Not a lot going for her. Lock the whack job up.
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  999.  @NotYourBizz she isn’t innocent. She’s guilty. A psychopath too.
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  1000.  @MedievalMoon_Ky Karen Read Parks her broom 🧹 outside the courthouse in a broom rack they have got for the local witches. She’s an evil witch. Careful of her broom as she’s liable to swipe you after slamming down 9 drinks in 90 minutes.
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  1001.  @Annaw1070 you little boy. Flogging a conspiracy like it’s out of penthouse magazine. Stop the nonsense. I’m sick of these conspiracy theories without any evidence. Karen’s on trial. No one else. Guilty. Study it properly or stop pretending you know anything about anything
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  1002.  @ampmf13 lol. Karen killed John slowly. Fact
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  1003.  @Aristobulos7  That’s your evidence is it. What extraordinary behaviour are we talking about? That he said it could have been a mountain lion ? Or he’s dumping rubbish ? I am no way saying this bloke is not guilty. Nor am I saying he’s full proof guilty. You are going to need more than the way he acted which was in your view extraordinary. There’s no evidence as yet that ties him to this crime. Only inferences upon one another. That look very suss all stacked upon one another but the defence would have a field day poking through what’s not there. They need a much stronger case. If they don’t get it, then he won’t even be heading to court.
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  1004.  @Aristobulos7  Again, I’m not sure if you know anything about innocent until proven guilty but that is not close to enough. Especially when they have unknown DNA in her helmet and on her bike. He probably did kill her that afternoon. But probably isn’t good enough. His truck went nowhere, and nothing was found in the truck that puts her body there. He didn’t carry her 50 miles on her shoulder did he. He was getting watched like a hawk after she went missing so unless police have tracked him to her remains or can put him there or another accomplice, then there’s still too many holes in this case. Because they think he did it or it looks like he did is just not enough.
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  1005.  @neige4221  So they are watching him and didn’t get to the bins in time? You don’t know this. That’s your guess or hunch. For all we know, they could have got to those bins and nothing is to be found. They’re not going to tell the world that. No evidence there so they just do what suits them. There’s crooks on both sides of the fence. That’s the way of this world. It shouldn’t be like that but yeah, it’s up to the defence to bring all this out. Land fill you say, well considering there were so many dumps, I’m sure they knew the area of land fill it was dumped. Have they checked ? I’m sure they did in this high profile case. Maybe they’ve found his rubbish and it was just that, rubbish!! So they say nothing as it leaves everyone questioning it. They don’t have to say ok we found his bags of rubbish and it was just rubbish. Why ? Why is that hidden ? It’s wrong. So there could be evidence that actually helps him but they aren’t going to attempt to help his cause. They only want the negative coming out. It’s the system. It’s totally flawed. You see it on many cases. That suicide hanging case was a casing point. The detectives had evidence that showed something but they hey throw it away hoping that it’s not brought up by the defence. If your defence is bad or lazy, then you can be found guilty of something you never did. Like I said, there’s crooks on both sides of the fence. Prosecutors are just as bad as the accused at times. On occasions they are worse.
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  1006.  @Aboma2012 why do people kill them selves? If we knew, then we wouldn’t let it happen. We don’t always know what people feel inside. She definitely killer herself. It was shown in evidence. He definitely didn’t do it. That was also shown in evidence. It’s not rocket science.
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  1007. Go watch again if you missed it.
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  1008.  @emoliver80  Yeah let’s just pull back before the day of the murder. She was a cheating H. Dirty low down woman. That’s proven. He wasn’t cheating. You say he was, well that’s not proven. All you women sit on your high horses thinking that cheating is ok. Well it ain’t. Don’t blame the other partner for your cheating. Blame yourself. It’s a low disgusting act. Leave. The low life’s that thinking cheating is ok just have no morals no principle’s. Now is he a killer ? Maybe maybe not? Probably but let’s see more evidence. Making up fairy stories suggesting he was cheating so it’s ok that she does is a warped thought process. They looked into him having an affair and could not substantiate these claims. So it’s hear say. That’s not proof. The proof showed she was banging a married man and father of 6. It also shows she was willing to live overseas with him and for both of them to leave their partners and children. Yeah mother Teresa she was. Does that mean she deserved to be killed. Of course not. Let’s stop pretending she was a good human being. She wasn’t. He maybe a scum bag too. I have idea. He’s up for murder right now or that’s by public opinion. No charges have been laid. Unless there’s evidence that 100% points to him. than this maybe unsolved for years.
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  1009.  @robinbond7878  Yeah so a jury can send him to the gallows because he’s in your view told stories ? Look if you are asking me whether I think or believe he did this, I’d have to say yes but that’s just an educated guess. I cannot just wipe out other factors. It’s whether I can convict this man with this evidence so far. Well I cannot. So I’m sure there will be many a juror who would think the same. Show me the money. Show me the god damn evidence. Not the little bits and pieces that make him look guilty, I want stone cold hard evidence. I’m from Australia and you just cannot send a man to the firing range on inference stacked upon inference. Either show me toxins in her bones that were from that tranc gun. Put Barry at the site of her remains. Or put someone connected to Barry there. Clear up these DNA samples from first the glove box then I want to know, who’s DNA is inside her helmet ? Why is it there. Who’s DNA is on her bike? Why is it there. ? Why isn’t Barry’s anywhere ? Clothes at the dumping site? If so what clothes are there. Why haven’t you gained the stuff that he dumped in bins ? You had footage so where’s the bags of rubbish he put in there?? What if they were found and nothings been said of it as it doesn’t have anything to do with her going missing or her being killed? So they just say nothing to leave that question there for others like you and I to speculate. Maybe that dumping of rubbish was the truth. Prosecutors don’t tell the whole story i hope you know. If it doesn’t fit they’ll discard it. It takes a good defence to pick through their hidings of these type of things. Until this is cleared or proper evidence is found than we are going around in circles. I want to know who’s phones pinged near the remains during the time she went missing ? Is there other pings ? All yet to be answered.
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  1010.  @DiddlyD-xx2ih  Who said that Bo Diddley. I was talking about separate things Einstein. What I said was cheating is pathetic and no one should do it. You want to cheat then leave. It shouldn’t be too hard. So people mentioning she was perfect and a great mother is not close to on the money. The so called good mother was willing to go to another country with her lover and leave her kids behind. Judging by texts and reports, the father of 6 wasn’t willing to go that far. He was just happy to keep living with his wife while cheating. That’s that subject. Whoever murdered her needs to be strung up. Seperate subjects. How about you go to the toilet and wet your face numb nuts.
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  1011.  @cazza-tea  Yes but there’s no proof he was with a mistress. My guess is she was hoping he was so as it didn’t look so bad for her. She was cheating and was hoping he was too.
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  1012. Lol. Arcca are frauds of the court. Have you been asleep ? The medical did not say that.
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  1013. Arcca are frauds of the court. They lied to a jury.
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  1014.  @RonTDB the bloke who built it testified. If you don’t believe the Englishman then I cannot say anything to change your mind. That woman who knew everything about everything backed that up. The search was done at 6:23. That’s a fact.
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  1015. Really ? I just heard conspiracy with zero evidence. On the other hand lally showed evidence and time lines. Guilty.
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  1016.  @REALFakeAdolfo The human mind. Hard to explain the way people think so illogically. I don’t get it.
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  1017.  @SJSummers01  sniffing the conspiracy Dust I see. They’d Money making fairy stories. Like alien shows. They aren’t real. You believe in anything it seems. GPS says John didn’t enter the house then he didn’t enter the house. No DNA means no dog. She’s as guilty as can be. Only a moron or money maker would think differently. Even her family kniw she did it. She’s a psychopath. Listen to her interviews. They’re recorded. Your stuff is made up fairy floss. Good story though. Haha. Comedy.
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  1018. They didn’t look at evidence. Blind folder daddies. Pin the tail on the donkey daddies. Said inconsistent. What’s consistent about a reversal with that exact car on those conditions to a man that size with a drink in one hand ? Must be a first. So consistently isn’t going to be a thing. Dumb and dumber know that.
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  1019. Because the media are story tellers
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  1020. Dumb people. They are everywhere.
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  1021. Frauds
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  1022.  @ROBINstrawBERRYwine She’s not innocent. Good story though. Maybe you can do a conspiracy Chanel . She’s100% guilty. Daddy knows it. All the team know it. She admitted in court when she stated with yanetti that there was no criminal intent. Also spoke of a brain tumour for sympathy and that’s pathetic as it gets. Unhinged Karen. Daddy is daddy. He loves his daughter even though she’s a whack job psychopath
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  1023. All weird. None are proof though… I want to see proof.
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  1024. Take the conspiracy goggles off peoples. All of you!! Jen McCabe didn’t search that at 2:27 and it’s as plain as the nose on your face. This is another one of the defence theory’s that’s totally debunked. KR fans yes her fans that still believe it happened as the defence said have zero activity upstairs or are unwilling to think for themselves. So she was being honest. This has been shameful from the defence and they will stop at nothing to hurt peoples lives. I mean nothing. Yanneti going to a school the other day. What is that ? Affecting children now David without any consequence because sister proctor is inside that school with children. Shame on you Yanetti. Shame on you Jackson for allowing it and especially Shame on you Karen for not owning up to what you did like the you’ve done numerous times before when you admitted it.
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  1025. She’s a psycho
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  1026.  @kt8199 No I’m a slaughter man. Is that what you call them in America Butcher boner at a slaughterhouse
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  1027.  @RonTDB  🤡🤡🤡 touch DNA not enough for testing. Could be bartenders kids anything. . No sweat blood or skin cells. You’re a comedian. A bad one. Clown. You don’t know the case. I can tell you watch conspiracy tv. Goose 🪿
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  1028.  @PJTYLER Don’t be a knob . Unbiased means unbiased. You can’t have fan boys. They should be professionals who have connection to the case.
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  1029.  @PJTYLER I just want unbiased people. Not fan boys.
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  1030.  @PJTYLER No you have professionals not morons. This is a fan boy. Maybe get your hand off it before your nose bleeds.
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  1031.  @PJTYLER hand off it butter cup
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  1032.  @thomasengel1459 I can’t believe people believe on nonsense so easily. Yes she’s a killer. 100%. The evidence is clear and the data is bang on. I’m be had my share of Karen’s over the years and other than a couple of stab wounds, I’ve escaped out ok. She’s a psychopath. They’re out there Thomas. Believe me. Women in the right circumstances kill. Unlike men who kill in many different ways and kill strangers, women more often then not, kill people they love like partners and even their children. They don’t always love them of course but you catch my drift. It’s a simple hit and run. Relationship violence. She was going Linda Blair earlier the day before. Obsessively dangerous. She snaps like a biscuit.
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  1033.  @thomasengel1459 Thomas. Don’t be naive. She’s a psychopath. That’s a fact.
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  1034. Incorrect. Karen killed John and would blame a country if possible.
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  1035.  @notsorryyouretriggered haha. You still kicking around. Yeah and the there’s an alien on your doorstep. Haha.
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  1036. You have to be kidding. The lost evil victim in the history of man kind
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  1037.  @LeannaMurphy-mx7zy Sonodvtst evidence? Duh. Well when you are getting a tv interview make sure you explain he did t come on the house. Though guess what. We dont need words. We’ve got our own evidence to view. John didn’t get in the house. GPS proves that. Karen also lied about leaving him at he foot of the driveway as he was never in that spot. Lying monster Karen Norman Bates Read. Lock the devil up
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  1038. True. If not for the school and America’s laws and culture then this wouldn’t have happened either.
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  1039.  @LeannaMurphy-mx7zy Karen killed their son. Half a brain shows that.
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  1040. You are easily amused
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  1041. For what ? Bad words 😂 Is that worse than killing is it ?
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  1042. She went to the car for blankets. Or did you miss that part.
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  1043. Imagine sheep believing in Karen Read? Can you imagine how brainwashed you’d have to be ? Or how gullible? Someone who changes her story 4 times and also admits to hitting him in between. Can you imagine being so foolish to believe in anything she says. Either can I. Sone people hey.
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  1044.  @TimBradlssidepiece you there. She even said it in interviews. She said it at her first hearing. This was a tragic accident lol. What’s they mean. I had no criminal intent lol. ? Haha
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  1045.  @TimBradlssidepiece she did. More than once. Guilty. Cass Elliot.
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  1046. @ What i thought was did I hit him hit him or just clip him. Did I tag his knee 😂. Did he drop his phone and I ran over his foot 😅, He didn’t look mortally wounded. Then I left ,. Question- Dennis — so that would have had to been when you dropped him off? Answer- Karen - it would have had to have been yes 😅. What on earth is she saying haha. Was Jackson having a nap 💤 I cannot believe she said that. The accidental confession. Haha. No wonder Hank didn’t gag her. Keep talking Karen.
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  1047.  @joes.4149 Guilty. She’s a cheating unhinged psychopath. Narcissistic sociopath. Karen is actually Norman Bates dressed as his own mother.
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  1048.  @mattb8754 So prosecutors mistakes and the fact that the defence has great stories means that you would find Karen innocent? Even though you believe she did it ? I’m not sure we can trust humans on Jurys. Maybe AI is the go 😂.
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  1049. He’s a little snot nosed tadpole
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  1050.  @Mr._Chievous So he’s a grub. So what. That isn’t a crime. Killing someone is and that’s why happy Karen the narcissist is on trial.
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  1051. Have a listen to this fortune teller.. I have a dear friend who doesn’t post things on media platforms for certain reasons but she works in this field, very high up for real crime ect. She believes that there’s complete bias from this woman.. exaggerating on the side of Mr Depp.. this may be good for media image and just all round image, as there’s backlash to those who even contemplate going anywhere else, but in the corner of Depp.. she’s watching this case and has very different thoughts to that if this woman. She said she has found certain points that say Miss Heard has deceived when talking about her own wrongs. Though when Ambers has been speaking of the abuse she endured at the hands of Depp she’s being truthful. This expert also said that the sister of heard had no deceive in her whatsoever. When she looked at Depps witnesses and experts, she found deceiving attributes from almost all of them.. she said Depps sister was very bad in this category. When it comes to Mr Depp this lady says that he has pointers to lying that are so clearly stand out characteristics, that you would learn these things in prep school. The basics like nervous twitches and grabbing nose ears ect just as you are lying or about to lie. These things are found by amateurs in this field. My friend states for this so called body language expert to say that Depp has been honest and she cannot find any deceiving from him, is a total rubbish. She is calling bias from this woman and she’s actually not being honest on her forum. So yeah. She has no interest to favour anyone. I find it amazing to talk to her about the case without bias. The cut finger incident shows Depp is lying. Plenty more lying from him and his side. I was getting taught and we were going through things. I was shocked to hear that this body language woman is not being truthful.. haha. She said it’s either she has severe bias or she has no idea at all.. so I’m calling her out as a bulls..t artist. Totally unprofessional is my friend’s description of her and not doing the right thing by the field. Hmmm I suppose you can’t believe anyone these days.
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  1052. 100%
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  1053.  @jupiterchance7495 You blinking when the evidence is presented. Simple question, How has her tail light got a gaping hole in it at 5;07? Pause and zoom a child can do it. So how? Keep in mind Kaylee testified to Karen mentioning her busted tail light at 4;50am. So fact is its bustard with a gaping hole. ? How
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  1054.  @leanndoolin4284 guilty.
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  1055. @ Billy that you ?
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  1056. The evidence doesn’t show that. Good story though
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  1057.  @Deversrehomedmemory No they didn’t. They said they felt it didn’t happen. They also said we had the evidence given to us and we didn’t ask for more. They were given a small part of evidence and to try and make a conclusion or have an opinion based off that. Well that’s not science is it. That’s actually laughable. Imagine Brian Cox Neil degrasse Tyson ,Lawrence Krauss saying ok yeah, we will have an informed opinion on science and only need a smidge of evidence 😂. They would give an opinion after this and do you know what it would be ? It would be we don’t know. We need all data and then we can make a judgment and then we need an objective opinions from many scientists to back this up before we even get close to saying this is truth. In other words these muppets had no idea about anything. Glass out of a cannon ? Lol. What for ? They didn’t even know the states theory on his head hitting ground. They didn’t have the vehicles data. Crime scene ? Inspection of the vehicle? DNA ? So it’s worth zero if you know anything about anything. That’s right, zero. It’s opinion without facts. You wouldn’t trust your city plumber with that.
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  1058.  @drea1999 lol. Ever thought Karen could have done this? Lol
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  1059. Fancy telling the daughter of your boyfriend, after she asks where’s dad, you answer with, he is at a sleep over. That’s as evil as it gets.
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  1060. Yes true. Karen killed an innocent man
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  1061.  @Maureen-q6w and others.
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  1062. Was going to say the same about Nick
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  1063. Just a question to you. If she killed John do you still hope she walks ? I’m not having a dig at you. Just curious.
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  1064. John’s hair.
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  1065. Hows tadpole nick. We saw the car move when hit. Yes we did young man but what we didn’t see is broken taillight pieces sprawled in the area oh John’s car. We see Karen’s car damaged before anyone knew about this crime. That’s where your conspiracy goes out the window. He Nick is a fan boy who sits with the family. He avoids facts Karen killed him no one else. You set her free and you set a cop killer free. Guilty as sin. Monster Karen
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  1066.  @Moira-v8e both need prison.
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  1067. She is pathetic
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  1068.  @myreasonforlife.9511 he needs punishment. He’s getting it too.
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  1069. Absolutely guilty. Ruined not only 1 life but hundreds
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  1070. Yes she did. She said they pulverised his head into her headlight. She said they killed him. Where’s her proof of that? Is that her in fairy land ? First she says she couldn’t remember the night, and what then she remembered? Lol. So considering she was there as it was her car they pulverised his head into, then what,she went home for a few hours and attempted to pick him up later ? Haha. Yeah that’s real isn’t it. She’s a joke and so is her defence team. Story teller Karen. Changes her story. What about the defence at start saying, oh there’s no way this is murder it was a total accident and she didn’t mean it. Then the defence goes south of that. So she went south of that.
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  1071. Nonsense. Then defence lies to cover up earlier lies. They have caught the Karen Read bug. Just make it up as you go. She’s one evil woman and hopefully she is found guilty and is put where she belongs.
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  1072.  @nana-ly9mw lol
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  1073.  @jewels07 he’s shocking. He could make spider monkey sleep.
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  1074. Another woman with the initials KR that killed their male partner. I suppose they get highlighted more often, but are the numbers growing with females killing male partners in one way shape of form? Equal rights ?
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  1075. Devil woman.
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  1076.  @amaliapetsavas4218 speaks the truth. What planar are you on. Haha
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  1077.  @gigigregory5858 lol. The Feds found no cover up and didn’t clear Karen. Arcca failed to look at the evidence and it’s amazing that these Baffoons had an opinion without evidence. That’s not how science works
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  1078. The problem started when he broke the law by taking a gun into the cinema. Go to the source. If there’s no gun, there’s no death. Court lotto in America. It’s not the only country but they are all over the place.
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  1079.  @mainstreamnemesis1086 Yeah I was talking about Karen the killer. Sorry
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  1080. If true ? If what’s true ???
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  1081. 😱😱😱. Magic dogs without DNA aren’t real.
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  1082. Lol. Yeah ok. Karen should be in prison. Fed once a day. Coldest cell of all time.
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  1083.  @AnGel-k9l4s was it ? Oh ok so what else did this man do? Any facts or are you going with guess work? Or do you believe in time machines 😂 Karen’s tail light is busted at 5am. Go check the ring camera again and slowly if you are still unsure. So what are you saying? People or person broke into johns garage while Karen was there and busted up the tail light? Lol. Is that your theory. Microscopic pieces of tail light were in johns clothes. Only discovered when the clothes were about to be swabbed. But let’s not worry about that hey. It’s a nice money making conspiracy theory isn’t it. Karen’s car is in the port shut door proctor and the other cop are there. Same time they the search team of 7 individuals which many didn’t know proctor or the Albert house are digging up pieces of Karen’s tail light at ground level. Also a shoe thst the defence said was never found before the trial even started. So unless you are into time travel, Or believe in it then ? Where are you going ? No mans land? 😂. DNA ? So what’s your theory ? Cops went to the morgue and got it haha. Ok. Yeah. Fact is Karen caused the death of John Okeefe. She admitted it and again in court days later. Said it was an accident. Said she didn’t hit him that hard. You ignoring this fact are you ? The whole world is lying but Karen’s story changing numerous times and admissions are what ? She says he’s dead at 5am. She blamed a plough at 5;01 lol. 14 minutes after striking him she calls and says John where are you ? Nobody knows where you are? Say what ? Karen didn’t you drop him off 14 minutes ago ? Then changed it to you sat out front for 10 minutes and watched him walk in. So now it’s 4 mins after she leaves and saying nobody knows where you are ? I’m sure you have common sense yeah. Then ends the call by calling him an effin pervert. She also said they had a fight. Now you don’t have to be a super inspector to work the out. She wants him answering they phone because her nightmare is getting worse. We also know she lied once more because John’s phone doesn’t move seconds after her crazy reverse. She gets to John’s 5 mins later. She pulled johns car out of the garage as Kaylee said johns car was in the garage that night. So she pulls johns car out and puts hers in? Why? Maybe to hide the damage yeah. Maybe she thinks cops are coming right away. Maybe she thinks she was seen striking him. Ask her why ? Ask her why a 40 year old is calling daddy all night? Ask her why did she go back to the scene at 5;15. Ask her how she identified john under snow while looking down at her phone in a blizzard in darkness. Karen is a killer. Don’t ever forget it.
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  1084.  @Usernotfound31231 Karen was the one cheating. She’s a snake and a cheetah. A Killer to top it off
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  1085. This is a tough case. Firstly I still am shocked that the school professionals were as bad here as anyone. One of the teachers commented to the other teacher how heavy his bag was. What a terrible miss right there. A drawing. A video of watching a shooting. Looking up bullets. Yet those teachers thought he would be better off around peers. Now the parents were blind and ridiculously naive to say the least. No doubt something has to be done and the parents here may have to pay the price. Parents in America should be scared and as a parent from Australia, i just don’t get America at all. You can talk about mental illness all you like but when it comes down to it, there’s mental illness in all country’s. There isn’t mass shootings and school shootings in every country. We can talk till we are black and blue in the face but no one under 21 should be allowed to own a gun. Until the culture changes it will never change. Mass shooters should never be named and that might help as many do it to make a name for themselves. I still shake my head in this case. Parents and professionals sat in a room with him that morning with a so called heavy bag the teacher said to his colleague and drew that picture and he is fit and ready for class straight after. I just don’t get it. No one expects these things to happen or they never would. The school should also be on trial. Parents must fear every day being an in America. It has more mass murders than 3rd world country’s.
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  1086.  @shanl3270 So the FBI are wrong and you know better 🥴 you must skip the parts that show her guilt. She admitted it. 1 simple question ok. How does johns DNA get inside the housing of Karen’s tail light? Brand new car ? Unbroken hours earlier. So it’s never been touched by John unless he works at Lexus. Explain it to me then? After that, explain how is Karen’s tailight busted with a gaping hole at 5;07am. How and when ? Don’t make it up, just give me the facts as you suggested you watched on trial ? DNA ? Tail light ?
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  1087.  @kittycaryall exactly. Everyone ignores these facts.
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  1088.  @shanl3270 Then give me the facts of this. 2 questions. Karen’s tail light is busted with a gaping hole in it at 5;07am. Zoom and pause. My kids can do it. So how and where do Karen’s tail light get busted ? From 12:32am reverse where John never moved again to John’s garage where she had her car to 5;07 am. Tell me ? I’d love to know your theory. Also tell me how John’s DNA is inside the housing of Karen’s tail light. Keep in mind it wasn’t broken before or broke which of course is common sense but yeah it’s unbroken the morning prior as we see on vision. Not a mark on it. Also keep in mind it’s a brand spanking new car. So I’d love to know how her tail light got busted and John’s DNA inside the housing ? I’ll wait for the reasons that you’ll have for me.
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  1089.  @shanl3270 Are you doing comedy or is it that you don’t understand the law ? Acquitted means not guilty on all charges. So if it’s 9-3 on manslaughter then it means 9 think she did it at a minimum. So she would still be going to another trial. Also if 2 charges were crossed off and we will never know as 12 people haven’t spoke and many don’t want to then it could be that sone of them had the other charges dismissed as long as the manslaughter charge was guilty. In other words we don’t know. But let’s say murder in the 2nd was taken off the charges? Well you can still put other things instead of it like reckless homicide. That may still happen. You blame the judge. It’s Jackson that sooked it up and wanted a change of forms. Also the last letters from the jury did say we can’t agree and we are at an impasse on the charges. Plural. Charges. So the judge went by law not what YouTubers think. Karen’s a killer so glad she’s got more coming. If they can get that 9-3 to a 12-0 for manslaughter then she’s going away for 20 plus years. The prosecutors did such a terrible job that it’s bound to be better. In other words if no turtles are in the jury then it should be a manslaughter verdict. It’s a simple hit and run. It isn’t right letting a psycho woman who killed a man and let him die slowly off the hook. That’s evil. Karen’s a monster and should be treated like one. Hopefully the cell is cold and she has years to think about her actions and not taking responsibility for them. Well she did in the beginning remember. Admitting it and then again in court. No criminal intent. She says it was an accident. She loved that man. She also said she had a brain tumour remember that. Looking for sympathy and a light sentence. What a disgusting human.
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  1090.  @shanl3270 So you didn’t answer anything. Avoid it. Like Karen avoiding responsibility. She admitted it. In court also. Remember? There was no intent your honour. On texts to Yanetti. Karen said I didn’t think I hit him that hard. Read that again please. So how hard is not that hard? Imagine believing her after that comment alone. You don’t need to change your story multiple times if you are innocent. Just the truth from the beginning will do fine thanks Karen. So leaving him at the waterfall after a fight was lie number 1. Blaming a plough. Said she couldn’t remember because she was too drunk. Make up your mind Karen. Dropped him off and did a 3 point turn and left. Did you see him go in Karen ? No, not inside the door. How did your tail light break ? Don’t know it happened last night. The Alberts pulverised him. Did you see this Karen ? Lol. And my taillight got damaged. Didn’t say names but I gather she’s accused the Alberts. 17 year old in the 2 she mentions isn’t even at the house. He’s on his way home before she leaves the waterfall. So how did they break your tailight Karen? At 12:32am when you went crash boom bang in reverse? Lol. It did they chase you in the car with a hammer and bag? Because we know you left seconds after 12:32 and your crazy fast reverse. Same time John never moved again. Or did they break it at 3am when you put your car in johns garage ? Why did you mention your busted tail logout at 4;50am? Kaylee testified to this as Karen is using Kaylee’s phone next to her. So where did it break? Thought you didn’t know? Why are you accusing the killer plows? Attack of the killer plow lol. Why did you say johns dead at 5am? Why has your taillight got a gaping joke in it at 5;07am. Pause zoom we see it? Why ? What happened ? Why did you later change again when phone data came into evidence and say, oh I dropped John off and this time I saw him walk in the door. You waited out front for 10 mins now? Ok Karen it’s getting better. Nice. While waiting these 10 minutes you rang John numerous times and texted ? So caught in yet another lie. Evidence shows that no calls or text were made out front. John was GPS in her car for 8 mins out front so you wouldn’t be calling anyway. Evidence shows you didn’t call until 12:33 and that was on the way to John’s after going bang. You rang 4 times between 12:33 and 12:36 but left no voicemails. 12:37 you are at John’s house now and leave your first loving voicemail. John I F——g hate you. Wow. Psycho. Guilty. You could be the dumbest detective in the world and know this. John’s DNA inside the housing of Karen’s taillight. It’s a brand new car. It was unbroken before it broke. Brand spanking new car. John didn’t work at Lexus Toyota. Work it out. Karen monster psychopath Read.
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  1091. Yep. They like to ignore the facts.
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  1092. 4? I think it’s past 14 times. Karen couldn’t lie in bed straight. Though she probably did when she had a nap while poor John was left for dead in the cold. She’s full or crap. Watch her interviews. Hilarious stuff. People actually believe her too. Humans are getting dumber rapidly.
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  1093.  @carolineforth4261 4 stores? More like 19. She’s lies all along. I left John at the waterfall. Oh I can’t remember I was too drunk. I dropped him off then left. Oh now I hung around for 10 mins calling and texting the left. So both lies. John is next to her as GPS shows and she made no calls or texts while out front so more fairy stories from Karen. How did your tailight break? I don’t know it happened last night. Though outside court she’s asked how did it break and she said you saw it. I bumped into johns car. So more stories Karen. The Alberts pulverised John and damaged my tailight. Did you see it Karen 😂 I had a stomach ache and wanted to drop John off and go home. I’m too old for stupid parties 😂 I only had 4 drinks 🥴 They go on and on. Lies. Stories telling. The plow killed John. Now you can sit there and pretend she hasn’t lied but you are being fake and lying yourself if that’s the case. Watch her interviews. She’s changed her stories often. She said her tailight was damaged and had pieces missing and you pulled a piece off and left it in the snow 🥴 More lies. I didn’t cheat. John was cheating. John caught the young Albert drug dealing 😂 It goes on and on. She’s a cold blooded killer and a liar.
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  1094. Turtle neck is a fraud.
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  1095.  @lacey8228 watch it again then.
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  1096.  @alyshaalberts5694 don’t be a naive lady bird. Then tech steam will be put in full in a few days. There will have to be a new lot of conspiracy theories. Especially if it times when a tailight breaks. Also GPS. Hopefully Karen didn’t go for a viewing of John s body while he was freezing to death at 5:20. Am. If so then murder is a serious prediction.
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  1097.  @alyshaalberts5694 wake up. Picture Karen reversing and driving off after looking back at John. Then still giving him two barrels worth in voicemails. Picture her going back to the body. Sneaking a look. Quietly. Then driving off again to gather up witnesses to start her Betty Davis acting exhibition.
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  1098. That’s actually false. She has totally denied it and communication between them was never intimate. Like selfies or live chat like Suzanne who was cheating with that father of 6.
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  1099.  @leanndoolin4284 bed time
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  1100.  @mighty0974 lol. They. Karen killed him. His phone didn’t move from her crazy reverse. His DNA is inside the sealed tail light. It was sealed before hand as we had vision of that from the day before. So it’s a brand new car. How on earth did his DNA get inside the housing if it didn’t break while he was within seriously close proximity. Fragments are on his clothes. Umm. Work it out.
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  1101. Not sure about all charges. Probably manslaughter but who knows.
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  1102. Garbage. You sound like Jackson. Make it up as you go.
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  1103. The Google search is not then. Are you taking a defences word for it before evidence?
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  1104.  @LadyLuck13 you are unreal. Go watch again. Listen this time. It has John going up stairs when he’s half a mile away 😂. GPS that’s built for military meaning war says John never went in the house. That actually means John never went in the house. That’s fact. GPS fact. Health data is a Fitness app 🙄. Not war lol. It doesn’t say where you are. It guesses on what you are doing. It’s not reliable especially when it comes to crime cases.
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  1105. No way she will. Unless she demands it. She will be caught in too many lies.
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  1106. Karen Adelson.
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  1107.  @PolytronikDigital lol.
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  1108. She smoked him.
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  1109.  @MaggieBlais are you old enough for this lol
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  1110.  @workingonmyroar7944 Yeah so he hangs with them ? You’d think cops would be a little more clever than plonking him on their front lawn. That’s a good story though lol.
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  1111. They are ridiculous. What’s amazing is there’s no evidence of anything other than Karen by these YouTubers Kerry banging on about it. It’s their life line to the internet. Then you get so called adults following it like a cult. Weird behaviour. Americas eat conspiracy theories for breakfast
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  1112.  @judyostrom8972  what evidence do you have to say that Karen ? I mean Judy ? Evidence? Accusing so where is it ?
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  1113.  @notsorryyouretriggered that’s you. Trigger
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  1114.  @Westie2244 Westie. You a naive Karen fan too. Look, I just care for truth. If I thought Scooby doo killed John I’d say so. He didn’t. Either did frosty the snowman. Conspiracy theories need something to back them up. All have been smashed to smithereens. Why don’t you question why the misinformation about a Google search or walking up stairs or missing shows missing belts? Do you question why were these things spread through the media? I mean even the suggestion that the 17 year old who my daughter could beat up was fighting with John ? Lol. He isn’t even there. Do you question why the FBI found no cover up or conspiracy and that’s why the trial went ahead ? You concentrate on minimal things instead of the meat of the evidence.
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  1115.  @Westie2244 west end girls.
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  1116. Why is this repeated again ? Was this the day after Yanetti got lucky to meet him out front of a school where of course kids are ? And also the sister of proctor? Talk about ethics. Around kids at a school ? That’s as unethical as it gets. Crappy men meeting at a school ? The people behind this conspiracy including the defence team are low life’s.
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  1117. Karen admits to hitting him. Then she back tracks like she did over her boyfriend. She lets him freeze to death. Changes her story multiple times. Lies through her teeth. Spends time with her father upstairs away from the in-laws then scoots after taking a bag of goodies. The glass is in her bumper. She rolled him. She is a killer. She is dangerous. She is a witch. The defenders of her are a joke.
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  1118. Because if you are female you are likely to be treated kinder
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  1119.  @caroltaylor9499 let’s stop the nonsense now. Get with the program. Dog DNA was cleared long ago but the defence kept going and kept going with it. Now guess what, they now have dropped that ridiculous theory. All they was, was the read throwing doubt around as to make the public and media in believing something that is nothing. It helps the lore fans she has. It helps when the media jump at shadows. This is how it snowballs. It helps when you blame the police as there’s nothing better than a cover up conspiracy. They are clutching at straws.
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  1120. Yea she got him. Then left him to freeze to death. What a woman Karen is 🥹
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  1121. Blame Karen
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  1122.  @LeannaMurphy-mx7zy Are you ridiculous or what? Seriously. That’s garbage. The evidence in data is there. Go study it. Too much conspiracy tv for some. GPS coordinates with Waize with health with vehicle data shows exactly what happened. Karen reversed like a nut job at 12:32am John didn’t move again after 8 seconds from the end of her reverse. Lol. It doesn’t take a real detective does it. GPS coordinates never put John in any house. It’s built for military purposes. You are off your head if you believe the conspiracy without evidence. Lucky ? Taking pics with the pink crew 🥴. His own words he went down at 5;30am for the last time. Reckon he saw Karen at 5:15 viewing her dirty work. This lucky bloke 5;30. Did he see a body ? No. Yet Karen does 30 mins later. Lucky ran over basketball rings. Has no idea of when. He’s had 4 different story’s and probably more to come. You don’t get it do you. FBI have cleared all occupants of the house. They know what areas people are in and that’s without phones. Don’t you get it ? Now you can lie but you can’t cheat and you are Doing both. Don’t pretend John GPS have him in a house. Guess what. Greene is likely not to even be at this next trial. If he does then he will be very careful. He’s already in serious strife and facing litigation. He apologised on the stand. Whiffen builds these formats. You are as fake as it gets. Stop lying. Do the work yourself or keep it to yourself. You believe turtle 🐢 lucky ? Pinkies ? Conspiracy YouTube ? It’s actually pathetic what you are writing and it’s borderline evil. Take a good look in the mirror and ask yourself am I really a bad person? So there’s 2 scenarios here. Either you don’t know what real evidence is and are easily sucked in. If so then maybe your forgiven. If you do know and still writing this, then you are as evil as can be.
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  1123. Wasn’t she cheating ? Didn’t she want to move away alone with a married father of 6 and to another country. That’s in her msgs.
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  1124.  @cylentone  what behaviour? You don’t know the girls. How do you know how they are or how they behave ? What the media say is gospel is it? Closer to gossip in reality. They haven’t abandoned their father and maybe they believe he’s innocent. That’s their call. Not sure what the daughters have done that’s actually wrong.
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  1125.  @mykingofkings1439 yes
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  1126.  @KarenReadDidIt shocking person. Evil as a woman can be. I wonder if she smiled when she viewed her dirty work at just after 5am. That’s before she put on a acting exhibition in front of the house. Nutter and a cold killer
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  1127.  @SJSummers01  the bark will go if you keep flogging it. A snail has more thought process then you. You’ll learn. You are still a baby brain. It will mature
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  1128. She is one unattractive killer.
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  1129.  @Keepingitwitchy she’s a killer. Simply psychopathic Karen.
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  1130.  @HarleyChick-x6k Yiy believe the FBI ? Ok they found no Cover up. That can only mean 1 thing.
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  1131. So will you if you keep that up
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  1132. Could you say the same about Nick ? He’s with the defence and is a fan of Karen and turtle neck
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  1133.  @guadalupelazar2384 well Karen has brought it to all. She admitted it numerous times. Said he’s dead at 5. Hit by a plough at 5;01. Roberts rings 911 then hospitals straight after these calls. She’s 100% guilty. She could blame England and smoke about it.
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  1134.  @smacdonald5142 correct
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  1135.  @guadalupelazar2384 Yea Karen can. Admit it like she did before. Own it. The corrupt woman is a legal cocktail of a narcissist sociopath entitlement selfishness and pure hate. She must have been seriously spoilt as a child. She’s a wrecking machine. Killed someone then blames those who tried to help her. Told Kerry Roberts he’s dead at 5am. 5:01 blames the plough Then admitted it as she couldn’t help spit it out. Then chafed her story 14 times. Cold. Real cold.
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  1136.  @DD-dq1ed 1/3,of evidence. Yep you can sure make a judgment of that 😂😂😂. That’s like a doctor doing heart surgery after only checking the legs lol.
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  1137. There’s a reason she admitted it. There’s a reason she’s had 14 different stories. 🙄
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  1138.  @zirconiumdiamond1416 except rings daft all night. Tells Kaylee something happened really bad to John at 4:30 am. Says he reads at 5am. Blames a plough at 5;01. For someone who’s so out of it. Amazing to have X-ray vision to spot John under a snow bank wouldn’t you think. Days later she and her attorney said it was an accident and she didn’t hit him that hard. Not bad for Sony without a memory. Days later she says we are all in on the joke right. The alberts did it and then pulverised my tailight ? How did they do that? Break into her garage lol. When she drive out we see the damage. It’s on John’s clothes in fragments. Her crazy reverse coincides with he not moving again until found dead. The phone never moved. We see the damage on her tail light at 5am then 8;30 also. John’s DNA inside the housing of a sealed tail light in a brand new car ? How’s that possible. Oh yeah it’s only possible if a part of John came into contact when they tail light broke. They’d very basic logic there. Karen is the killer. That’s a fact
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  1139.  @Kkoala_542 exactly. The ring footage that the state put into the company to gain it. What does that mean ? Karen deleted the parts she wanted too. Swapping cats around in the garage. Checking lights. We see her sister in law checking it out lol.
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  1140.  @michellesayers5346 Haha. It’s in the court also outside of court 😂. It’s actually in documents 🙄. It was an accident. My client doesn’t be mine she hit him that hard. Are you alright ? Even a turtle would admit that.
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  1141.  @michellesayers5346 jealous of what ?a psychopath? I hate killers. I hate killers who blame others. Wake up America.
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  1142. The FBI found no cover up , and what ? You did ? Lol. Kate. Is the killer. A child would know that.
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  1143. I’ll bet you a grand she’s guilty
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  1144. Karen is a killer. Don’t ever say poor Karen. Imagine the family reading that comment
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  1145.  @notsorryyouretriggered false
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  1146. We will never know thanks to crazy Karen.
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  1147.  @rootbeerfloat77 Wow. So talk down about a dead man that did nothing wrong. That’s classy Liz.
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  1148. My brother does it all the time. It happens.
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  1149. Did she say she doesn’t remember ringing him and if so it must have been butt dials, She didn’t actually say they were 100% butt dials. Maybe she rang also ? I mean he didn’t answer the texts? So many would ring. I’m not sure.
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  1150. She’s 100 % guilty. Fact.
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  1151.  @stevengallant6363 looked at pictures ? How smart are you ? His arm was scraped from the under carriage. That is what it looks like. Have you noticed the defence dropped the dog theory that was just fanciful media play by them from the start? Where has that theory gone. I’m sure you have enough of a brain to know that it was dropped and it was never going to be used once the trial started. Why is that do you think Steve ? DNA was not there on these scratches. The dog didn’t wipe it up did he? Clean the crime scene. Must be a crooked dog too lol. That is another myth put forward by the defence. Just like the timing of this Google search. Use your brains Steven. With a great name like that I’d expect more from you.
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  1152.  @moonchild1569 Moon zapper how you doing? You a Karen too ? Stop running over boyfriends and then waiting until the freeze ok. It isn’t nice.
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  1153.  @NelLopez-jc3jp rubbish.
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  1154.  @Mrgazzo goose. Clearly guilty. It’s a easy case. Cut out the fairytales and Karen’s the killer. Simple. She’s a psychopath
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  1155. Franny.. go have a look at the camera footage ? Look when he goes into the garage.?? You should be on this prosecution with no factual evidence other than dream speak
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  1156. Francesca I have watched this whole trial and I do not take drugs or drink alcohol. You are on fairy land.. you are either a man hater or you just have no idea. 🙄
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  1157. So yep he was disgusting. I’m sure many would say worse after a crazy woman left one of their brothers to die after smacking him. I knew all along that Karen went back to view her dirty work before going to gain her 2 witnesses and then putting on a Betty Davis display of acting in front of the house. What type of human is she ? Answer is she isn’t human.
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  1158. Well he didn’t go in and that’s a fact. So the house is irrelevant but as you will just keep talking about a house. Or a dog. Or a Google search. Or a missing shoe. Missing belt. Lol.
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  1159. @BarbShenaniganskiBarb there’s a thing called GPS. It’s built for military purposes. Combined with Karen’s Data from her car which also has GPS and trigger data there’s no possible way he went in the house. Health data. That’s like kindergarten. Data compared to GPS. Those so called steps up stairs he took he was 800 metres away and that’s half a mile. He’s in a car. That’s her car and his phone. As soon as she slams it in reverse at serious speed, within seconds. He does not move. That’s a fact. The rest is a mirage from a defence that either trick the fans or the fans of Karen do not want to see the facts. John’s DNA is inside the housing of the tail light. It was sealed. It’s very basic but I’ll let you work out how it got there.
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  1160. @BarbShenaniganskifalse.
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  1161.  @zt5547 Karen Adelson read is that you ?
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  1162. Karen is Gawn
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  1163.  @notsorryyouretriggered I didn’t think normal women leave their man to die. She’s a Nutter. Karen is pure evil.
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  1164. Been that way for years. It was actually changed because Jackson had a fit.
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  1165. Maybe he’s scared that nut jobs will attack him for having an opinion.
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  1166. Talking heads wrote a song about Karen read. Psycho killer.
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  1167.  @hazelhadley-britt6396 yep females are the worst. Not all. Some are pathetic. Have no idea and are just plain stupid. Then they act as though they are detectives and don’t even do their homework. Men are guilty before they even think about it sometimes.
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  1168. Go watch again. Are you blind or just bias.
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  1169.  @ROBINstrawBERRYwine Yeah months later. So what. GPS proven that John didn’t go in the house so it’s irrelevant. Great for conspiracy tv though. Gets the clicks going.
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  1170.  @danniw5781 Well it was accidentally on purpose. So she meant to reverse like crazy and she was angry and drunk. Did she mean to kill him in that moment? No but she went toward him swiped him then took off. She blames a plow instead of calling 911 and saving him for a 2nd 3rd time. 2nd degree murder I think though she will get manslaughter.
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  1171. The car did hit. Karen drove it. Fast. Just after cheating and then drinking. She took a nap. More important is her sleep then saving John. Then she blamed a plow as you do. Rings daddy as all 40 year olds do at 3am. Guilty. Lock her up.
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  1172. Lol. The car was on video at 5am. 😂😂😂. Weren’t you watching. It’s busted. Go watch it pause it. Gaping hole.
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  1173. Anyone blaming these girls who are actually victims should just ease up a little. They were framing and she said was it dream or real ? Do we don’t call cops after a dream do we. She didn’t see a knife or blood and that’s strange. Did he have the knife in the bag then ? Serbs like kohberger ess in a trance then too. He looked at her and walked by. Wow. Horrid.
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  1174. The party is over. Read is a dead duck. She is the pits
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  1175.  @veeberlin9149 she told Miss Roberts that he’s dead John is dead. Then hung up. Who does that when a boyfriend hasn’t come home ? Then she rings again and says he could be dead and must have been hit by a plough ? Think about those statements. Then she finds the body.
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  1176. Steve. Stop embarrassing your great name. Think man think. Stevie. Zoom in 5;07am footage. Tailight, It’s busted with a gaping hole. Time machines don’t exist. Guilty Stevie.
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  1177.  @stevenschwizer627 No. it’s never pointed in any other direction then Karen. Unless it’s in evidence in court documents then don’t believe anything. You’re all getting stooged. Steven is a smart name. Think about things. Look at the evidence properly. Ask why Karen reversed at 12:32am at break neck speed. and why she’s angry 5 mins later at 12:37am. Why. What’s she reversing for? Who hasn’t John moved as soon as she’s stopped. Then whatever you believe ok cool but go to 5;07am. Zoom it. Her tailight is busted. So it happened before then not after. Time machines don’t exist. Guilty. She’s saying John is dead at 5am. Then she said a plow killed him at 5;20am. Then she finds him in snow or under snow when no one can see him. Even mr plow man who said he last went down at 5;30. Logic. Guilty.
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  1178.  @stevenschwizer627 Are you serious? You should stay off the YouTube conspiracy tv. Cars aren’t magic man. Not even new ones . She would have had warnings and if she’s braking then yeah it’s a safe car but you pedal it and fly at something then the car isn’t magically stopping. Haha. You are being stooged. It’s almost funny. Judging by your theory the car wouldn’t allow her to reverse like a nut job. It would have stopped her. It allowed her to break the tailight so whatever you’ve been fed is false. It hit something didn’t it lol. Cars crash man. People die. Last 3 year model cars have killed 1000s of people all around the world. Including Lexus Karen’s car somehow different 😅. Stevie. You are a lost cause mate.
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  1179.  @chhansen9813 To know exactly how far he was pushed back is guess work in my mind. I do t know if he crawled a metre or virtually lay where he landed. He vomited on himself and that seems to be when his on his back as it’s all over his front. Her car stops reverse and then within seconds he does not move till 6:15. We know this by the GPS on his phone. Added to her car data. His arm got hit no doubt. It’s scratched up. It’s not an animal. dNA wipes that theory away in a minute unless you are gullible. His head hit ground. He was clipped. Right side. Right knee lateral. Right elbow. When protecting himself. The force moved his body in motion quickly. I’m sure he tried to move at that just split second also. So his body was in motion. The simple fact that his DNA is in the housing of the tail light makes it very simple. It’s unbroken before this as we see the day before vision. It’s a brand new car. So part of him hit that tail light. I cannot put it more simple. Fragments are in his clothes. He doesn’t move at all. She admits it to all. Her attorney said it was accidental and she didn’t think she got him that hard. There’s texts with turtle saying I think I must of clipped him. Her team knows she done it. Her family know. You reckon her old man doesn’t know. They are seeing if it’s possible they can get away with this by bodkins anyone and everyone and ruining lives in the process. The wolf pack have got behind them and are gullible and are sticking by her without looking at basic facts. Now you and others can pull bits and pieces of irrelevant stuff and harp on it but it’s irrelevant. Selling a house 6 months later. Irrelevant. Everyone of there conspiracy theories or lies I like to call them were just that. Google searches. Stair climbing. Missing shoe missing belt. A dog was involved etc. they are all debunked and because the focus is on irrelevant rubbish. It takes many peoples eye and brain of the neat and potato of the case. The basic. The logic. The common sense. I’m still turned into a cult. Jackson loves it as he’s get paid a million to spread lies and his ants will bully witnesses. Kids even the parents of John. It’s got to stop. The hurt that Karen has caused is astonishing. It’s sick.
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  1180.  @Maureen-q6w good for you. You comment he was killed by the Alberts. It’s a ridiculous theory wit no evidence. Pretend all you like to sane your killer mate Karen. It doesn’t change the facts 😊
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  1181. Lol. Yeah ok.
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  1182. Jealousy? Who knows. Maybe she’s just a nut job. Women kill and mostly people they love once loved. They don’t kill strangers like men do.
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  1183. We do now.
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  1184. If they ain’t evil then nothing is. Look at the eyes. Scary. Poor John. Imagine the last image he saw was a crazy Karen flooring it.
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  1185. Narcissist psychopath. It’s her nature. Spoilt little brat and that’s her upbringing.
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  1186.  @user-bn4li3do9g Karen Adelson Boone
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  1187.  @KarlLaFong-v2q it’s her arrogance and narcissistic traits. She’s actually a psychopath. You can see that and reading those texts , well that’s deranged unhinged the works. So she most likely does what she wants. Spoilt as a child. Brat as an adult. She Dobbed herself in line 25 times in the interviews. So guilty.
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  1188. That’s coming. Showing Karen reverse at high speed with John’s phone right there and then it moves a few yards then doesn’t move again until after 6am. Of that doesn’t tell a story then nothing will. What next ? Karen is going to say yeah she watched it happen or has she already said this as one of her 7 stories?
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  1189.  @erincicione  coincidence ? Was that the part where police threaten to deport people and there stories change. ? Inconsistent statements are not evidence at all. Not with pressure of getting your child taken away and being told you could go for murder or lying to you and getting to change your story and memory. This case isn’t bad. It’s a disgrace is what it is. If the killer didn’t take the easy way out then the case against her wouldn’t be. Now wonder your justice system is as bad as your gun laws. It’s a free for all. Chook lotto. It’s a mess as is the country and it ain’t getting better. You want the truth. That’s the truth.
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  1190.  @erincicione with the lack of evidence in this case. The last thing I would do is trust the state. prosecutors. This should have never been a trial. For starters, conspiracy to commit murder is a joke with zero evidence. The fact they were allowed to have that as a charge is straight up criminal and an injustice. The country is stuffed and so is the system. Wake up America.
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  1191.  @notsorryyouretriggered You still kicking. You banging around trigger ? You love female Killers don’t you.
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  1192.  @Elo-hv3fw Shut your hole. Who do you think your taking to drop kick ? Pull your head in.
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  1193. Sure she is. Or is that a figure of your imagination 😅 like gene wilder said.
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  1194.  @MaTTheWish dumb and dumber is you looking in the mirror
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  1195.  @debbysalmon2498 lol. The feds were done with this case 15 months and 6 days ago to be precise. Feds are watching ? Ease if the conspiracy juice. Too much tv. Lol. Stop watching Melanie little Brain. The rest of them or just as bad.
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  1196. Haha the lady with the glasses cannot be serious. Drop the case. Look at who else did it. Unless her brain doesn’t work or she’s not looking at the evidence then wow. As for the bloke in red. He’s going on about v to e scientists. He does know they had hardly any evidence at all and where making what they say is a full 100% evaluation. Umm 30% of evidence looked upon is lit near enough to give a 100% opinion. Simple math tells you that. Do these people actually know the case ? Glasses lady my goodness. She’s a pinkie for sure.
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  1197. Spot on
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  1198. He wears a monitor. Be hard to do wouldn’t you think.
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  1199.  @NaturebyGus  he got bail. So he was wearing it until charges were dropped. I’ll ask this, in such a high profile case and being accused of murder, do you think they were watching him leading up to the arrest ? That’s part one. Once arrested they had his data of the truck and phone. Once the case was dismissed, Don you believe they have been watching him? Including phone taps and surveillance? My opinion is there’s no way they just let him wonder about.
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  1200. Here’s another one. The he dog theory was never a theory. It was a media spin brought by the defence at the start but come trial time it’s taken off the table. Why is that ? Maybe because they knew it was not or could not have been any type of animal. DNA proved that. It’s a bluff. The defence are bluffing and So is killer Karen.
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  1201. They are not dog bites. DNA has cleared that. Find another conspiracy.
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  1202. Because he at the time had very little to do with his family.
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  1203.  @ChoosyGOAT  very simple. I followed the evidence lined up all data and looked at every one of Karen ls actions before and after. I’m an old man. I’ve had my share of crazy women in my life. 2 restraining orders long ago. I know the type but they all don’t lead to killers. Many women kill though. She snaps like a biscuit. Narcissistic sociopath. The evidence is huge. I was a dog breeder of hunting dogs. Pig hunting dogs. They are definitely not even close to dog bites or dog scratches. DNA would be over loaded. Dogs mouths soak. He didn’t go in no house. The days doesn’t lie. GPS has him on the lawn straight after her reversal at speed. His DNA is inside the housing of a tail light. It’s a brand new car. The tail light was sealed before it broke as we saw in footage 2 days earlier. Not a mark on the car. So he didn’t work at Lexus did he. Microscopic pieces are mixed in with blood and vomit in his clothes. The reconstruction guys although highly rated looked at 1/3 of all evidence. It’s not near enough for w full evaluation. But let’s go back to the night in question. She texted him and calls him all day. You are setting me up to fail John. She also is cheating. She blames others as it’s never herself. It’s all John’s fault. He doesn’t want to fight argue whatever. Males or most Steve into that. I know I’m not. So the data lines right up but at 12:31 when he never moves again, Karen is scooting to his place. 12:37. I f——g hate you John. Keys go forward 2 days after the crime for a sec, yanetti , it was an accident. She didn’t think she hit him that hard. My client loves that man your honour. People like her don’t love. As she said, they were dating. But they still want to possess. So let’s go back. 12:37. Pure hate. That was her 5th call to John after 12:31. She rang and rang. Victim blaming is Karen with the 12:37 i effin hate you. . She failed and it’s his fault. 12:42 you can hear her psychopath footsteps. 12:46 where are you ? Nobody knows where you are ? Karen you just dropped him off 14 mins ago? There’s a blizzard ? Where else would he go. ? Nobody knows where you are ? More like please pick up That phone because my nightmare is a growing. Rings daddy all night as every 40 year old does. Calls 53 times. Panicking. 4;40 speaks to her father. 4;45 wakes Kaylee and says something really bad has happened then storms off ranting. Comes back I think John could have been hit by a plough. Calls Jen McCabe with Kaylee’s phone. Mentioned her tail light busted and this is another key. So she knows it’s busted. Ksykee bscks up Jen McCabes story. Says she had a big fight with John and she left him at the water fall. Then calls many people. Has a different story for each person. Kaylee said she’s never seen Karen like this before. Rings Jen McCabe again. This time she says broken tailight and left him at the water fall but Jen’s husband says what is she talking about? They were out front of your sisters ? Jen remembers and says Karen we saw you at my sisters place out front ? What are you talking about? Karen replies I can’t remember I was too drink I don’t remember going there. Umm ok Karen. Gets in her car and as we know the tail light busted as been mentioned twice by Karen. She pulls out then love taps johns car bumper to bumper if anyone knows cars. And then takes off. Right there. I’ve zoomed in. And it’s a gaping hole. Clear as day. So the conspiracy is shot. It’s a fairly story. The whole works. Calls Kerry at 5am that’s before she’s headed out. He’s dead Kerry. Click. Calls 5;01. Kerry it’s a plough that got him. Or might have done it ? lol. I could go on with har X-ray vision eyes seeing a body in that darkness under snow in a car in a blizzard. I’ve actually hardly ever seen a person as guilty. It’s very logical. She’s a Nutter. She’s a killer. What’s worse is she’s blamed people that were only trying to help her that night. Imagine helping someone or thinking you are and having your world and your family’s world thrown upside down. All because a woman didn’t take responsibility and thought and planned cunningly before grabbing witnesses and acting confused etc. Then days later. We are all in on the same joke right? That’s when actor story teller Jackson came on board. For 300 grand he will say and do anything. All in on the joke right? What joke Karen ? The Alberts killed John. The bashed him then pulverised my tail light haha. Ok where ? At the scene after your reverse ? Did they hold you down ? Or did they break into johns garage at 3am and take a bag to carry tail light pieces in. Lol. It’s baffling that many believe inn her innocence. Humans are strange. Blaming innocent people is not on. No searches were done at 2:27 of how long to die. We all know that. Even a silly turtle would. It was done when Karen demanded it. 10 mins later she’s in an ambulance saying she’s gunna jill herself. Or daddy did. They saved her from early questioning. Then she says I’m fine and walks out of hospital a few hours later. Guilty. 100%. It ain’t even close.
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  1204.  @maggiebarrettbarrett5684 you still going with that haha. Proven to be another false rumour by the defence. Didn’t you watch the trial ? Greene may well be facing litigation after his kindergarten mistakes. He apologised for it on the stand. Did you skip that ? Karen demanded the search to be done at 6:23am. She also asked the ambulance driver minutes later after she threatened to harm herself. Remember that ? Lol.
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  1205. He’s a snotty nosed flog. He reminds me of Matt. Karen’s fan boy. Weird boys. Definitely not men.
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  1206. Why do court tv either delete my comments or ban me for 24 hours when a say Karen’a guilty. What’s going on. I do not swear. I say far less inflammatory things then what I read about police or judges and even John’s family. I think Karen viper Read has a serious cult going. Believer’s everywhere. I’ll state again. She killed John okeefe.
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  1207.  @MarkG-SF 9 did. 3 didn’t.
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  1208.  @sandracm38 Sandra. No idea what you are saying but your mate Karen is a killer and is going down.
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  1209. @notsorryyouretriggeredsays the loon himself
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  1210. By her shadow
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  1211. Amber heard didn’t kill anyone. She’s a Nutter like Karen but Depp was no picnic himself. Both whack jobs.
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  1212.  @leanndoolin4284 lol. That’s all the pinkies ever say. People who believe she’s guilty didn’t watch the trial. I watched pre trial then the whole trial and have gone through the data extensively. She’s guilty and that’s a no brainer. A child could tell you that. Only the bias or naive would suggest otherwise. She’s pure evil
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  1213.  @sandrabecht4489 John is guilty of dating a psychopath. Dating down 🥴🥴🥴 she burnt an ex boyfriends car down on the past. She’s a psychopath and a scary nutter for any man.
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  1214.  @KeanuWhite-zn9mp there was a witness who heard Karen ask that. He testified
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  1215. Wow. Really. Are you going to get through this?
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  1216.  @tekarock Who ? Is that another conspiracy tv channel ? Money makers. What about Melanie little haha. She lies almost as much as Karen. They are like twins. Twisted ladies. Anyways good luck getting through it all.
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  1217. I have no idea what you just said ? It makes no sense
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  1218.  @PolytronikDigital haha. Yeah sure thing.
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  1219. Looks like only one person knows the actual law there. The top left is a bird brain. Do your homework before getting on a show and talking about laws that don’t exist. Nicks just a sleaze ball. He’s a parasite. He talks as though attacking witnesses in a murder trial is ok. Imagine having a free for all. Clown 🤡
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  1220. Rubbish. You been listening to Arcca. Haha. Liars. Frauds.
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  1221. The evidence is so flimsy you reckon ? Firstly you don’t know all the evidence, so stating it’s flimsy is not the brightest thing I have read. The evidence as it sits would be enough to nail him.
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  1222.  @pistolpete8231 Pistol. Stop the nonsense. It isn’t the FBI. It’s a sacked FBI agent that has come up with that. So take note of that and take note of what position he holds. He isn’t in the FBI and holds nothing in authority at all. Now the real FBI haven’t said that. The real FBI had to check this case because of certain accusations and they’ve done that and given the go ahead. Considering they e given the go ahead, isn’t great for Karen Read. They believe she’s guilty. Do not believe everything you hear from a defendant like this and her team. They are clutching. The dog theory is now scrapped from the defence. Why is that? That was cleared long ago through DNA so why keep going down that path? Then when the trial is near, they say oh no ? Let’s drop that theory ? They want the public and media with her. They are lying to the public and media to have follower. No followers she has no chance. The evidence will speak for its self. She’s a story teller. She’s a narcissist. She’s deadly dangerous. She reminds me of an ex.
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  1223. Karen and Casey. They could be sisters.
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  1224.  @marygoff3332 another one. No Canine DNA and the defence were never going in with that once the trial started. Why is off the table ? Use your brains. It’s to bluff people and get more support. So the Defence never went ahead with their early rumours? Why is that ? Did the doggy wear gloves ? Seriously it’s a bit of a joke.
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  1225.  @PJTYLER haha. So cops killed him but first took him to the basement and If he wasn’t dead he was knocked out so they plonked him on their front lawn to die did they ? That’s comedy at its best. Karen did it. Don’t be confused with conspiracies. Made up garbage. Glass is in her bumper. She’s a killer.
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  1226.  @thedaily30 Yeah whatever you reckon.
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  1227.  @sherry8894 sherry sherry. Is 1/3 of something 100% of that something ? Or is it close to 33% of something. I’ll make it simple for you. 33% of evidence is not enough to make a full 100% judgment. Simple math tells you so. End of story.
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  1228.  @brettcantrell8650 also apologies for calling names. Not on. Sorry.
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  1229.  @alyshaalberts5694 12:36 so get it right. What footage ? The footage the state gave a warrant to the ring can company to get hold of it? What do you think they deleted it and got a warrant haha. Why would they leave the part where Karen live taps Johns car ? It’s when she gets home she probably went straight to her car and looked. Switching johns car out of the garage yeah? Putting hers in. That’s when she rings john 12:37 victim blaming. She’s a killer. That’s a fact. The tail light has a gaping hole in it. She mentioned it at 4;40 on the phone to mcabe and in front of Kaylee. Guilty.
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  1230. Hopefully they are. Karen is pure wickedly evil.
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  1231.  @MaryHartmanMaryHartman Karen. Duh
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  1232. jiogcyihsugy iocjfdoivhphvwp I was outraged so your bet was wrong.
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  1233.  @daviddavis3389  lol 😂
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  1234.  @marvinbrando722  he’s not guilty you say 😂😂. Blind Freddy knows he did it
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  1235.  @laurenherda2415 spoon fed
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  1236. Who knows. At first it could have been an accident. Only Karen can answer that and she changed her story so many times. Though then to leave him there for hours to freeze to death is another thing all together. That’s a cold blooded killer
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  1237.  @Renae83 lol.
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  1238.  @josephkain6213 joe flog boy read. You work ? Where ?
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  1239. Yeah that’s crap. You can’t do science without evidence. Simple math tells you that. She hit him and left him for dead.
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  1240. Freak Karen read. That’s what it stands for yes?
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  1241.  @Annaw1070  the dumbest comment of the month so far. Congrats kid. Children watch turtle shows and have conspiracies paste on their tooth brushes. Adults know Karen’s a cold blooded killer. She’s actually Norman Bates dressed as his own mother. Was it the mother or Norman. Figure that one out Joshua.
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  1242.  @Annaw1070 Gomer is that you ? 🤠
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  1243.  @Annaw1070 Conspiracy paste Josh. You brushing your gums with it Haha. You little flog. Ease off it or the bark will get shredded.
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  1244. If everything was facts and as easy as that, then why did they drop the case. Why did they withhold evidence. Why haven’t other avenues even been peaked at? Plenty of questions. Until they get all the answers or some real evidence that he did this, then this isn’t going anywhere. They’ll go through it all again now and the body site. They are going to have find something of note or a connection with Barry and the body location. This may take time.
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  1245.  @hope5360  Yes and there’s a reason for that. They were way out of line. You don’t hold evidence back, especially when it comes to other suspects maybe being involved. That’s actually corruption. The judge was correct and they’ve been let off lightly compared to other cases when similar things have been done.
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  1246.  @hope5360  they are going to have to find evidence or more of. Either in the autopsy with possibly some tranc in the toxicology tests that bring it back to the residence and their theory. If not, then they are going to have to get Barry or an accomplice that connects with this body site. If not, then this isn’t going anywhere.
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  1247.  @esmeraldawetterwachs8655 Faise. John’s DNA is in the housing of the tailight. It was sealed. It can only get in there when broken. It’s a brand new car. That’s common sense. Think about it.
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  1248.  @williamp6800 Touch DNA who told you that Jackson lol. Turtles? Haha. Man oh man. His DNA was on the inside of the housing of the tailight. A sealed tailight. Brand new car. What part of that confuses you? Are you watching ? Tailight housing inside. It’s not rocket science William. There’s only one way johns DNA gets in there. Part of himself was there during the breaking of this tailight. Wow what a coincidence. The moment Karen goes crazy reverse is the moment johns phone doesn’t move until 6:15. If you don’t want to use logic because you are one sided that’s fine. Admit it. If you don’t want to admit facts then keep on doing your turtle shuffle. Are you fine to have a killer be free? If so then I do not understand. The fan base and the ignorant thought process is baffling to me. Each to their own. Keep blaming innocent people if it makes you feel good. I think it’s disgusting.
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  1249.  @williamp6800 William. Maybe you need a rerun on the trial. Stop fast forwarding the nuts you don’t like. Watch and listen. Don’t call me a liar man. Stop it. Use your commonsense It’s not a football match. Next you will say Jen did the Google search at 2:27. Seriously. You people are as low as it gets. Stop blaming innocent people. The lot of you should pull your heads in. His DNA was inside the housing. It was sealed. What part of that is too hard for you to comprehend? Listen again. If you don’t want to listen then you don’t care for justice. You just want to blame 17 year olds who weren’t there or dogs who are devoid of DNA. I cannot help you. You can help yourself for looking for truth instead of sticking with a pack and talking nonsense.
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  1250.  @ianfortuna9385 guilty
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  1251.  @ianfortuna9385 no. Guilty
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  1252.  @ianfortuna9385 loads of it.
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  1253.  @ianfortuna9385  I have evidence sent to me but of course it’s public 😂. Like you can get it. Everyone. Look it up. wow. It shouldn’t be too hard. Someone’s sending it to me so she’s getting it off public material.
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  1254.  @Kamsgram that means zero. A accused can’t have carpet and you expect they to be evidence lol. What are you people on 😅. A crook could tamper with that now. Like Karen yeah. It’s a joke. It’s another spin from Karen.
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  1255.  @michellesayers5346 You whack job. Karen don’t type and drink at the same time. We know what happens when you drink. You kill people. Hey GPS proves John didn’t go in any house. He stopped moving when Karen stopped reversing. What a coincidence 😵‍💫. Hey of the conspiracy paste. You lick it straight from the jar.
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  1256.  @michellesayers5346 your middle name is silly.
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  1257. No they didn’t. A company that was given very little evidence to form an opinion formed an opinion, saying it was inconsistent. None event. Either look at all evidence before giving an opinion or forget it. Real science would say I don’t know with that amount of Information. Ridiculous. Karen killed John.
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  1258. Haha what’s sort of heading is that ? Would you let the devil loose ? What a ridiculous heading. Of course not 🥴
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  1259. It’s busted with a gaping hole at 5;07am. It was on John’s Garage then. You telling fairy tales lol
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  1260.  @Rossi4040 Impossible at that speed. Bumper to bumper. 10 year olds know this. To break a tailight with cars of similar size you’d have to hit it with force. Nothing falls at 5;07am so logically it’s busted before that. Also Kaylee testified and court reports had Karen rambling about her tailight at 4;40am. Stick with facts not fairy stories.
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  1261.  @CameronL-l5k YeH you’ll see it in trial. It’s huge on tv all over YouTube. Busted. Gaping hole. I’ve taken photos of it. It’s massive. You could fit a football through it. Time Machines don’t exist. Only a moron couldn’t put 2 and 2 together. The conspiracy ends there. Karen’s rambling about her tailught at 4;40am. Kaylee testified to that. Karen’s gone back to John’s body at 5:23am. Watch this space
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  1262.  @Rossi4040 no. Kaylee testified to Karen rambling about it at 4;40am. They wouldn’t break it. Nothing falls. Lol. It was broken earlier. Naturally where she reversed. Naturally where it’s all over the scene.
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  1263.  @HJW018 you cannot lie to a judge and jury. That’s fraud of the court. Lol.
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  1264. because Karen asked him too. The app was already open. That will be shown.
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  1265. Why do you listen to testimony of how something was. Sone say cracked sone say busted I say broken you may say something else. It’s best to look at 5am footage. Clear as the nose on your face. It’s busted broken cracked. Can’t you see ?
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  1266. Probably because she’s acting like a nut job and I’m sure both women didn’t expect to find John dead thereafter. They did help her though. They just felt she was over the top and not making sense. It would have been crazy in that car. Then at the scene. Wow. Just imagine it.
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  1267. So why does he eat pizza there ? Why go out with them ? Lol.
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  1268.  @joelletaylor8939 stop it. Not dog bites. DNA hair isn’t there. No bottom jaw lol. They are abrasive marks. Nothing like a dog bite.
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  1269.  @logicandreason8090 experts? Haha. Ring in Russell 🤠. She will not be allowed in the next trial. Fraud.
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  1270.  @logicandreason8090 i trained pig hunting dogs for 20 years so who you think you are talking to? Telling me about dog bites? Haha. They aren’t dog bites. Not even close. There’s more chance that Elvis bit him or Scooby Doo when Elvis was walking him. Hilarious stuff. Good story though.
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  1271.  @logicandreason8090 I’ve seen many human bites. I’ve got my own bites and scars. Pig tusks and dogs. I dated some crazy psycho women once upon a time too. Karen is definitely one of those psycho girls. Canines have saturated mouths. Think ok. You own a dog. ? Put your hand on its mouth. You must know how soaked their mouths are? Much more then humans and more than primates of which you and I are. A dog breaths on you you’ll have DNA. Hair from a dog would be on his clothes. Bottom jaws. It’s not a dog ok. It’s the dumbest theory I’ve seen in a while . It’s almost as dumb as believing cops would kill a man or almost kill him in front of their children with many other guests there including young girls. Then plonk him on the lawn. Impossible. Watch Karen’s interviews. She changes her story weekly. She’s guilty. Factually. Wether it be 12-0 in court ? Who knows. Killers walk at times. She will never be acquitted but it could be hung again. She did it. Not a house. Not a magic dog. Move on. Make up something else as the dog won’t cut it. DR Russel will be out of this trial. Total fraud. Free Karen. Canine DNA wasn’t even in science when she last worked. Fruit loop. Pinky.
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  1272.  @logicandreason8090 You have zero idea. Karen killed. Not Scooby Doo and Bigfoot lol. Stay off the conspiracy paste.
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  1273.  @logicandreason8090 logic ? Change the name to fairy story teller.
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  1274.  @Annaw1070 you spoon fed it what. Conspiracy sugar on that spoon ? Wake up Freddy.
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  1275. As is Karen Read. Joint cells coming up
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  1276. So they must have had a Time Machine then? Is that what you are saying ? Karen’s car wasn’t at the port yet and the tail light pieces were found. Work that one out will you. Nothing was planted. She has planted a spell on everyone.
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  1277.  @Krystal_Kleer lol
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  1278.  @GrandWren23 rubbish. There’s your free Karen head speaking. Full of crap.
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  1279.  @GrandWren23 😅😅😂
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  1280.  @laurenherda2415 you are ridiculously silly. Open up those brain cells. Sheep everywhere. 9-3 guilty of manslaughter. Even her attorneys and family know she did it. You watch too much YouTube conspiracy garbage that has no factual basis. It’s 100% she did it. She wouldn’t admit it in court and say it’s an accident otherwise. Duhhhh
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  1281.  @CarmenHughes-ox1cm Carmen, I hate to break it to you but once you got to court days after the incident with your lawyer, and on your behalf he states that you Karen caused this but it was unintentional and she loves this man. Also adding she needs sympathy because of a brain cancer then yeah. So before you ever comment on this particular subject again sweetness, please read the documents or go back to the first hearing as it’s even on YouTube. That’s an admission of guilt ok. That’s the law. Now that’s proven. I’d add that she admitted it at the scene as 4 different people were witness to this. It’s my fault. Omg I hit him.
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  1282.  @leannabedore Karen is the evil. Guilty. No brainer.
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  1283.  @WvBeurden2222 haha. Melanie little 🥴🥴🥴 she’s a fraud. I trained pig hunting dogs for 20 years. They are 100% not close to dog bites or scratches. Dogs have DNA. It wasn’t Scooby doo. Lol.
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  1284. Was that fighting was it ? Seriously.
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  1285. Narcissist psycho Karen. Thinks she’s princess Dianna. She’s actually Norman Bates dressed as his own mother.
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  1286.  @melissar6365 You are speaking absolute garbage. He’s a pig. She’s a killer. Both dogs but ones worse than the other of course. Psychopath Karen. Karen is actually Norman Bates dressed as his own mother.
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  1287.  @marierees8890 fractured skull. Look it up. Many things are connected. Like the sinus the eyes and a big part of the cranium.
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  1288.  @Qbert2407 lol
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  1289.  @donna5815 Here is another one. That was false news spread by the defence. Watch the trial and you’ll see when that search was done. It was just after the moment Karen demanded it be searched. Hence the typo. Watch the trial.
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  1290.  @LeannaMurphy-mx7zy don’t pretend to be smart. Also drop the arrogance. Just because you are covered in wool doesn’t mean everyone else has to be. Onya bike woman.
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  1291.  @JI5-25 Yes the expert ant Wolfe who looked at or was given approximately 1/3 of evidence. Funny as many people say when I mention Karen is definitely guilty, they say so science is wrong and you don’t believe in it. ? My answer is, I believe in science as it’s all over this crime with Karen being guilty but I also believe in math. So 1/3 of evidence to give a 100% evaluation isn’t near enough. Simple math will tell you that. Amazing that Mrs Wolfe is on free Karen pages. Highly inappropriate. She was definitely hit John and then left him to die slowly and painfully. She could have saved him in each hour. She chose to blame ploughs and even victim blame John himself with those awful msgs. It’s all his fault. Just as it was at around lunch time on the 28th when she said johns setting her up to fail. Nothing is ever her fault. That’s her nature. Blame game Karen. She’s still blaming people now. She is a Monster
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  1292. Had this been a man who disliked kids was obsessive in harassing the victim and not leaving them alone with their kids when they have asked you to and also cheated then imagine the story line. Instead we have a witch who does a royal wave. She should be walking the green Mile.
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  1293.  @lisacole690 🥴
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  1294.  @lisacole690 😑
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  1295.  @valiakloeppel7252 yea possibly but the fact she left him there for another 5 hours is another crime. That’s a psycho
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  1296.  @Westie2244 it’s 2pm here fella. Maybe you should wet your face. Get of the turtle Juice. It’s no good for you
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  1297.  @Tamara-id1pe Considering it’s the only serious damage to this head, he was clipped arm up for protection and no doubt trying to escape from his psycho girlfriend. So he’s clipped as it’s back right corner tailight. He more than likely had that glass in his hand that he walked out of the pub with. He was hit after a argument of sorts and she reversed hard. His head hit the icy ground and hard. He couldn’t put his arms down for protection going backwards could he. So his head smacked the ground hard. I’ve been Knocked out playing Aussie rules with the back of my head hitting the ground. No skull fracture though, but we have softer grounds for safety. Still serious concussion stretchered off. Woke up 3 hours later in hospital. So his head cracked on that icy hard surface. Did he crawl a short distance? Who knows ? He went unconscious after vomiting on himself and lay there till was found my X-ray vision Karen. So 8 seconds after this reverse ended he does not move. Until 6;15am. Let’s also not forget Karen rang many times in the next half hour. Though 14 minutes after the incident so at 12:46 she said John where are you lol. Nobody knows where you are? Umm stop or Karen. You know exactly where he was. Nobody else knew. She was living a nightmare as anyone would. Be. She was hoping he would be ok and answer that phone. He wasn’t ok. He didn’t answer 53 calls. She should have gotten help straight away. That’s why we are where we are. She left him to die. So cruel.
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  1298. Dogs attack an outside of an elbow. Plus the fact no dna was found from a canine. Do you know how much DNA a dog leaves or have you thought of that ? Just think about it.
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  1299.  @Gizmo_the_Pug she shot him in the side so if he’s coming at her then how did the bullet go in from right to left? How had he got his calf blown away? Was he running away? The defence theory of his legs flying up in the air are ludicrous. A my amazing how she’s untouched and he had a hole through his lung and into his spine and his calf is blown away. Umm sorry but she’s guilty. Yep she’s super attractive and she looks supe harmless but most of the crazy ones do. She’s a nutjob. Bible versus Shes unhinged. Another Karen read but this one stays silent instead of blowing her mouth off to all. Guilty
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  1300.  @DebraLuttrell-qx2il crap. It’s proven Karen killed hm slowly
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  1301. Trackers on vehicles. That’s why. He did not carry her there.
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  1302. I see sheep everywhere.
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  1303. For what ?? I suppose you are proud of the detectives too ? If you are American? Are you proud of your country ? Normal country’s don’t take this to trial and I’m sure I don’t to explain why they wouldn’t..
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  1304.  @josephkain6213 Hell Raiser Karen. What she has caused goes beyond. Also, for those fan club members to Harass kids at school and at home is as low as it gets. What a disgrace
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  1305.  @josephkain6213  flogger. Joey. Little boy. You want to go hunting ? You and me.
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  1306.  @bdubs532 Alk the evidence was there and is there. Josh levy decided to give them 30% of evidence and not all because he’s close to Karen reads father. Didn’t you know this? There’s a reason and that’s because of you give all evidence to them, then this company might have a far differ conclusion. It’s an opinion at the end of the day but geez, imagine your surgeon saying ok let’s operate,.. you say ok what’s wrong. He says I’ve looked at 30% of tests etc an I reckon it’s this. Umm you’d run for you life. 😅
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  1307.  @Princelover-ip4gn  I believe on it all. Science and math. They go hand in hand. That’s how we see the distance of stars away from our star. 30% os evidence isn’t enough to make a full 100% evaluation. Simple math tells you that. So the opinion is worthless. Imagine letting your surgeon get ready to operate on you after saying he looked at 30% of tests 🥴. You wouldn’t trust your city plumber with that. Think logical. Use it all
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  1308.  @bdubs532 Hey Jethro , whether it’s 25% 30% or even 35%. Point is it’s not all evidence to even form an opinion. DR wolfs wife on Karen read pages. Yeah nothing looks suss there 😂
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  1309. Shocking. Poor mother 🥲.and partner of the woman.
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  1310. Did you watch the trial ? I reckon all people will get rid of their phones now. I mean the defence can make up anything before a trial like a Google search or he went up stairs. Both false. In fact every thing the defence said was false. Blatant lies. Made up conspiracy to get the pack going. They got a big pack and most of that pack will not be shifted. Even with John’s DNA inside the housing of her tail light. Brand new car duh. It’s sealed before this event as shown in camera the day before. There’s only one way johns DNA gets inside the housing. He was there when it broke and I mean right there. Duh.
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  1311. Why? Not aloud to be honest. I hate her too. Kills a good man. Blames anyone she can.
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  1312. Imagine if in this case it was the female killed ? There would be no question he gets life. Women want equal rights in this world and they get more than that. It ain’t a man’s world any more James brown, it’s woman’s world. Did that lawyer just call him an animal ? I cannot believe what I heard him say. Mate you can get people around saying this or that or I saw this but the fact is we see what a crazy woman she really is. He didn’t clock her then and was copping it left right and centre. What an ugly looking girl she is inside and outside. She’s got to go and if she gets a light sentence than the American court system is more out of whack than I first thought. Self defence without a mark on her. You can’t be serious. What a dirt bag she really is.
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  1313.  @Panda-r8n the black eyes are from a skull fracture. The shoe? Lol. She killed him. That’s a fact.
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  1314.  @janlefebvre932 😂 Karen is 100% guilty. Don’t be naive. Look at the evidence the data the Vision of her tail light busted at 5:07 with the gaping hole. Listen to Kaylee’s testimony of her mentioning it while talking on Karen’s phone. Karen said it’s busted at 4;50. What’s your theory ? How did it break and when ? Which fairly tale are you wanting to go with. Let’s start with 2 that Karen mentioned. Karen said the Alberts beat him up then pulverised her tail light ? Or are you going with what she told the reporter outside the courthouse? Where she said to the question of how her tail light got broken? Karen said yo saw it, it happened when I hit johns car 🤔. So what’s your theory then ? I’m guessing you cannot answer that or won’t answer that.
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  1315. EMTs heard it. Do you make it up as you go ? Are they lying ? Lol
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  1316. Not as a dog but expect. Not even close.
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  1317.  @madjack8893 crap
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  1318.  @lilypiscak3296 there is plenty. There is zero evidence he went on a house so you lot are clueless. Study the GPS. It’s damning against Karen.
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  1319.  @stephanied6451 no doubt
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  1320.  @pennicochrane8886 Karen is guilty. This is ridiculously bad. Normal brains know Karen caused the death oh john Okeefe. Manslaughter.
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  1321. lol. Sure. How was it missing ? Why ?? Lol
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  1322.  @amberrains4332  a few pieces ? How do you know how many pieces lol. It’s busted. Huge hole. Where are the pieces at 5;08am ? Logically they are at the crime scene where she reversed lol.
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  1323. Ashley Greta Garbo is a straight up killer. What an act 🙄.
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  1324.  @bethpatriots7290 guilty.
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  1325. Little red riding hood is about the bolt person Jackson hasn’t implied was in on the conspiracy. Maybe it was frosty the snowman hey
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  1326. Don you think the hair hasn’t been tested for DNA ? Lol. It’s John’s. It wouldn’t be mentioned otherwise
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  1327. Dribbling. Crack pot you are.
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  1328.  @trish818 Matt is a fan boy. It has been debunked. Only the conspiracy tv channels that are getting loaded off the dummies are going with it.
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  1329. Well said.
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  1330.  @Tammy_26Irwin There’s sone delusional sheep around the courthouse. Are you one of them ? That’s about the most ridiculous thing I’ve read in a while.
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  1331. It’s actually less. They did it in a minute lol. Seconds. Wait till John’s phone. It will have to be done in 10 seconds and out front while Karen is still there. Year right.
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  1332. Have another look.
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  1333.  @Annaw1070  Joshua has out done himself for dumbest comment of the month. You have the top 2 now and are Impossible to beat.. Josh haha. He’s out clowned himself. Good boy Joshy. Keep brushing your teeth with conspiracy paste. 😂
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  1334. Lol
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  1335. Lol. Did you say they are clearly canine bites? Do you know anything about DNA and animal DNA ? A dogs mouth is a pool of DNA. Much more than a human. If a person buys it has DNA. If a dog bites it’s saturated. Seriously.
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  1336. How unprofessional was that. This lady hasn’t even watched the trial. She just made up fairy stories and was allowed to get away with it. I really enjoy this show and Vinnie but please if something isn’t right, then pull it up and question it. I have no idea who that lady was but that was as bad as it gets. I feel embarrassed for her. Wow.
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  1337.  @michellejames5953  Sexist ? I don’t care if you are Michael James. If you are not close to knowing the facts of the case or just be blinded to the facts, I’ll call it out. It has nothing to do with your sex. It was a dumb comment. Anyone who knows this case and says he is guilty, either is brainless or bias.
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  1338.  @michellejames5953  I don’t drink. I said you’d have to be dumb or brainless or not have a clue or be a bias man hater. Which one is it ? Maybe you don’t hate men. If that’s the case then maybe do some home work before talking nonsense. Some of the comments were not only out of line, they were just ridiculously dumb.
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  1339.  @lmnlstes Says who ? You ? Any dumb dumb either bias knows she killed John. She admitted it remember. It was an accident. She didn’t hit him that hard? How had is not hard lol ? Ok. Maybe you didn’t hear her. Go read it. It is documented. Factually. Not made up fairy stories that the defence put forward. Lol. All debunked. Maybe Jackson has new fairy tales up his sleeve. Maybe it was Rumplestiltskin. This time. Possibly Scooby dpo too. Haha.
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  1340. Psycho woman Karen
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  1341. I’ll take those odds.
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  1342.  @sandrabecht4489 A reconstruction company the FBI use not the FBI. That’s for starters. Secondly they looked at around 25% of all evidence. No data no crime scene no DNA. So the math doesn’t match the science. Not sure it was worth their trouble to be honest. Either look at evidence before having an opinion or just don’t have one. Scientists would laugh at them stating physics etc.
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  1343.  @sandrabecht4489 lol.
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  1344. Unhinged Karen needs a cold cell to sit in and think about her actions for the next 25 years.
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  1345.  @rootbeerfloat77 yes she hit him and drive home. 5 mins. Duhh.
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  1346. Lol. Amazing when he didn’t go on there. Karen is evil
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  1347. We know that. Even the Karen followers know that but they’ll clutch at any straw to just to make it fit their narrative
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  1348.  @colleenstuart190  no Karen is a killer and her fans are trash.
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  1349. @ you are as thick as your name suggests.
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  1350. @ I’m not. You think they are coming out with their hand up like tattoo ? You his is myth.
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  1351. Karma will come for Karen one way or another
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  1352. Why? Is it ok to kill a good man these days is it? The worlds gone mad.
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  1353. Killer. No way
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  1354. 9-3 last time. The evidence is there. Do a better job, don’t get people’s coming in with minds already made up and guilty is a huge chance
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  1355.  @adaberdugo8 she’s a selfish nut job that’s why. She cares about herself. She knew she got him and then she left him there to die as maybe she was panicking. That isn’t an excuse at all. That is a killer and a cold one. Now she’s putting not only his family through more he’ll but many other family’s too. That’s evil.
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  1356. Wow she looked good a couple of years back. Looking ragged would be an understatement. Almost prune time for Wendy. The arrogant family and spoilt Charlie. Its definitely a different world over there. Here in Aus we don’t have dentists hiring gangsters to knock off an ex brother in law. What a crazy joint America is.
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  1357. Alibi. Nut job. Psychopath. I could go on.
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  1358.  @HomeAtOahu hang on. Hard to read. You are saying they are dog bites correct ?
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  1359. @ facts? I know this case inside out. The data is damning. There is no way she didn’t do it. My boyfriend is dead ? The plow hit him ? Then she finds him as good as dead next to a plow bank an hour later ? Lol. The odds of that are astronomically large. No brainer.
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  1360. @ 😂😂😂
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  1361. @ never
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  1362. They’ll know if a body has been moved. Other types of soil or bugs.
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  1363. It matters little who was in charge. Charlie or mum. Both are guilty at the end of the day. What matters right now is did Charlie work with Katy to have this hit done. Answer is 100%. Charlie is toast. Mum Donna will be in the deep fry soon. Driving force seems like a mixture of both. Though I would say, without Charlie this would have never been done. Sometimes it takes 2 to tango. Mums power mixed with Charlie’s ego is a lethal cocktail. Couple that with Wendy being the spoilt brat. Wow. It seems like dad probably knew what was going on but was either keeping a distance or being sheltered from the dark shadow that was about to collide head on into an innocent man and father. The whole Alderson family make me sick.
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  1364. Another Karen Read. Joint cell for these 2 narcissistic whack jobs.
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  1365. Karen is evil and has you and others bluffed
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  1366.  @kristenpino4635 they tested and no dog dna. What part of that is hard to understand?
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  1367.  @maggiemcflycorreia1667 more likely to be spitting bacon or pork when cooked. The Dog dna would be there in loads of a dog was anywhere near that sleeve. It’s very simple
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  1368.  @andrewmueller9986 why on earth would they test wounds. The dog theory came 12 months later. The clothes were there and her tailught is there in fragments and not dog. DNA. Guilty. We should even have this argument. How anyone can say she innocent is beyond me. She admits it lol.
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  1369.  @andrewmueller9986 you goose. A dog wasn’t named for 12 months dopey. Koreans tailught was at the scene and it’s busted on video. Duh. It’s a hit and run ya knob head. His shoe is in the gutter 😂. She has a msg telling John she F—ing hates him around the time she’s out front so 5 mins later. It isn’t a hard case. The shirt has fragments of her light in it. Duh. Same Sleeve as the injured arm. Duh. Karen admitted plenty. She shouldn’t have been driving. Admitted say she hit him at the scene but she wasn’t sure if it’s as many times as law enforcement claim she did. Word for word. Said she could have clipped him. Tag his knee and incapacitated him. He didn’t look mortally wounded 😂. Karen’s telling you everything you are just too dumb to listen 🤡
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  1370.  @kristenpino4635 moronic free Karen’s. I know the case. Duh. No canine DNA. I trained pig dogs for 20 years. They aren’t from a dog. 2 FBI experts agree with me. It’s only these whack jobs.
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  1371.  @Deversrehomedmemory Are you born this way or is this recent ? It’s on court documents. Go read them. No criminal intent duh. I didn’t think I hit him that hard. It’s my fault I did this How king to die without a coat. Oh the plow did it 😂. Yeah attack of the killer plow. Of course it was the plough Karen. Karen 12:32 crash bang. Same time John never moves again. . 12:37 am. John I f——g hate you 🤔 12:46am so 14 mins later , John where are you lol. Nobody knows where you are haha. Karen didn’t you drop him off 14 mins ago 🥴. Where else would be be. There’s a blizzard coming in. What he doing, going for his midnight jog. You f——g hate him. Then nobody knows where you are 14 mins later. Yep nobody knows where he is but you do Karen. You know exactly where he is. He’s where you find him with your X-ray vision 5 hours later when you go to look at your dirty work. Then where you identify a body under snow to be John 🤔. Wow Karen you are incredible. During the night she googles DUI attorneys 👍. Of course that’s what you do when you’ve just wiped out your boyfriend. What’s a cold mole she is. Leaves him there to freeze and doesn’t call 911. The person who did was Kerry Roberts when Karen said he’s dead at 5am and minutes later oh the plow did it. Kerry calls cops calls hospitals. Not Karen. Any dummy would know she’s guilty as sin. Only fools think otherwise or evil souls.
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  1372.  @Deversrehomedmemory It’s in court documents lol. Read it fantasy man. Texted yanatti saying I didn’t think I hit him that hard. You know she killed John. It wasn’t Bigfoot. Next you’ll tell me she wasn’t angry when she said 5 mins after crazy reverse, John I f—-g hate you. Unhinged. Lying has never ended since that moment. That’s fact not dreaming.
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  1373. Why did she say johns dead ? Why state she hit him but not that hard lol.
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  1374. They like to keep the ridiculous conspiracy going I suppose. Why else ? Clicks. He said some horrible words. It’s not even against a law. We have a killer that gets treated like Queen Elizabeth giving her royal wave coming out of court. We have almost illegal operations for lawyers. We certainly have Karen at the head of witness intimidation. She has court coming again and again and again.
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  1375. Not victim blaming. Just saying she wasn’t mother Teresa was she. She was having sex with a married man.
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  1376. I didn’t see that in trial.
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  1377. Probably as they are trying to save him they aren’t thinking DNA on an arm. It could have been cleaned to dress or wiped. We don’t know. I gather it wasn’t brought up as this ridiculous conspiracy and a dog involved until the defence starting up their fairy stories. It looked good for a dog so they went yeah they had a dog. Let’s say the dog scratched him. Unfortunately for them they swabbed those holes. A dog tears and rips. It doesn’t put nice little holes in clothes. Lol. Canines have a soaking mouth. they breath their DNA it’s so wet. It wasn’t a dog. It wasn’t an animal. Lol.
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  1378. Karen read could play Annie wilks in misery. She is deadly dangerous.
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  1379. So her story changed 4 times. Nothing up with that? Admitting you hit him twice? That normal to you to? Glass in her bumper ? I suppose all cars have a drinking glass in their bumper. 🙄
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  1380.  @Tammy_26Irwin Grow up Tabatha.
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  1381.  @jbekkers11 stop it. Karen asked it. The defence hsve never denied it. They just put forward that the search was also done at 2:27 am. That’s gone now. Was never there as many of their theories that they force into the media on PR stunts. The missing shoe remember that one ? Lol. Made up. The missing belt ? It never left his pants lol. They are fakers.
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  1382.  @schingh1973 You don’t get it. The defence have said all along that yeah no worries Karen asked you this but why did you search it hours earlier. Their theory is smashed. It wasn’t even carried through the search. The Defence stuffed up. Their muppet that went through that wasn’t very bright was he. So he’s gonged there. The defence cannot say now oh she didn’t say it. Lol. Karen has already changed her story 14 times. You can’t make it 15 It’s locked in now.
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  1383.  @Kara55283 you’ve got zero idea. Maybe the conspiracy goggles are foggy. Not sure. Karen killed him. She’s admitted it 5 times. Did you know there’s even texts to turtle boy when they were setting up witness harassment which incase you didn’t know is against the law so more charges are coming especially for turtle kid but yes Karen also. So yes there is a mention of I clipped him in those texts. Imagine if Karen possibly gets acquitted right, I mean it’s possible. Then she will get the OJ stain. Wrongful death suite is 98%. This is far from over. Karen’s nightmare has just begun. That’s what you get for killing a good innocent man.
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  1384.  @Kara55283 You are talking utter garbage and I nothing to do with the evidence. What’s a fog hot to do with anything? Lol. I trained pig hunting dogs for 20 years. They ain’t no dog bites. Canine DNA would drop from a dogs mouth. They breath DNA out. The clothes would not be ripped. Scooby doo is more viable. What’s a house got to do with anything? He didn’t get there did he. 8 seconds after her crazy reversal he doesn’t move. So drop the garbage. The data is bang on. No stairs no house no dog. Higgins through all his rubbish out there as his area doesn’t hsve rubbish pick ups but you know that don’t you ? He is undercover. Probably a good reason to get rid of your phone and looking at what garbage Jen McCabe has gone through when some fool misread the data, and had threats to herself her family. Her kids sporting events. She isn’t allowed to watch them play sport because of a total stuff up by kindergarten work done by Greene. He apologised in court and admitted perjuring himself but you know that. He will fsve litigation and my hunch is you’ll not see him in the next trial. The guy that help built the system taught him where he went wrong. But you know that don’t you ? Or are you avoiding that. The FBI found no cover up but everyone is ignoring this. It’s why we have a trial. Karen’s father is close to John levy so you know how politics has gotten hold of this case. Did you know Karen had once stabbed a boyfriend? He came out early but he ain’t coming out now is he. Imagine the backlash he would cop. You do know she burnt another boyfriends car down don’t you? Where’s the YouTube people reporting this? Absolutely no where. Yet they go with rumours and made up garbage that Karen bailed Paul out of jail. Another myth. Just like the house was drug dealing. The missing belt? Where’s that gone now? Missing shoe before the trial and never found? Where’s those stories now?? Karen is a dead set killer. She’s a monster
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  1385.  @jtrudeau7577  it’s proven. Her tail light is all over the scene and on John. It’s busted at 5;07 and a blind man can pause and zoom and see that . We know from the data that she went straight from 34 Fairview after her psycho reverse at 12:32 in which John doesn’t move again and she hammers it to John’s place calling 5 times in 5 minutes. 5th call is I f—-g hate you at 12:37 so 5th call she leaves that loving msg to the man she’s just swiped. Victim blaming. It’s his fault she got angry as it’s all John’s fault. She said you are setting me up to fail. Victim blaming. Is never Karen’s fault. Bodies ploughs. His John’s DNA inside the housing of tail light. It’s a brand new car. Use your common sense. He didn’t work at Lexus did he? Brand spanking new car. The only way his DNA gets inside a sealed tail light that’s brand new is he came into contact with it when she went bang at 12:32. It’s not rocket science. Simple hit and run. Oh yeah she owned up to it early days.
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  1386.  @suzinaccache he changed side’s because he followed evidence duh. I looked and though oh wow Google searches this that wow. Though I don’t believe everything I read. I’m older and smarter than that. I’ll make a judgment after looking at the evidence and both sides. Well considering the defence have virtually made up fairy story’s and none are true at all then yeah. What a joke. Blake anyone they can without evidence to back it up. Ridiculous. All been debunked. Karen admitted it early days or did you forget that
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  1387. Facts. Yet you get people that believe she’s not guilty lol. Give me a spell. I suppose people think the earth is flat so anything’s possible
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  1388.  @Mandy-fl8fn That’s bumper to bumper. A child knowing cats could tell you that. She Karen was rambling about her tailight at 4;40am. Just after she says she left John at the waterfall. Her first lie of 45. Kaylee testified to this also. Karen cannot see the future. So it’s busted earlier
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  1389. Manslaughter and maybe reckless homicide. She didn’t accidentally reverse at 24 miles an hour to show off on front of John did she ? 😂. She knew she hit him and whether she thought he would bounce back up or what she thought , only she knows the answer to that. Not getting help or calling 911 is the work of the devil.
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  1390.  @LadyLuck13 not sure if you realised, but they had 1/3 of evidence at their disposal to form an opinion. You wouldn’t trust your City plumber with that 😂
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  1391.  @5GreenAcres she knew and that’s why she’s blaming a killer plough at 5am
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  1392.  @LadyLuck13 What are you on about ? She isn’t going to say it’s a car if she doesn’t know. It’s not like a bullet was in his brain and she can say gun shot. What’s confusing about that? She isn’t doing the DNA she isn’t swabbing his clothes and dinging tail light fragments in vomit is she. She isn’t looking at vehicle data phone data GPS coordinates etc. she couldn’t even tell us if it was blunt force that killed him or the actually cold. She sort of swayed to hyperthermia but not 100%. That’s being honest. Not taking guesses like a company with 33% of evidence at hand. You wouldn’t trust your city plumber with that. This is a simple hit and run. To cross off all ridiculous conspiracies you only have to pause and zoom at 5;07. Gaping hole in the tail light. That cuts any conspiracy out quickly. Kaylee testified that at 4;50 am among many things, Karen mentioned her damaged tail light. So is Kaylee in on it too is she? Seriously. The FBI found no Cover up. What does that tell anyone with a brain? What’s that say ?
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  1393. Blame killer Karen. She’s the reason.
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  1394. Karen killed John Okeefe. That’s a fact. Whether the prosecution did a good enough job, well they didn’t. A very simple hit and run. Maybe focus on Karen and the facts and ignore the ludicrous conspiracy as the jury definitely didn’t buy that from the defence.
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  1395. Wake up the shows over.
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  1396. Man I love this guy Vinnie. I love his passion I love his common sense. He is right more often than not. Parents who harm their children are the lowest of low. I’m from Australia and yes I had heard about this case but watching a documentary on it recently and watching that little boy walking from house to house and finally an elderly gentleman was home and couldn’t believe what he was seeing. I saw those injuries. I have seen the bones sticking out. It’s absolutely horrific. How that isn’t a life sentence for those 2 witches just baffles me. The justice system in America is up sh!t creek. Vinnie keep up that awesome passion you have and common sense that I hear every time I listen to you. Vinnie is the best.
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  1397. Karen, it was an accident and i didn’t think I hit hit him that hard. Your honour my client loved this man. Haha ok. 12:37 John I f——g hate you Wow true love there. Karen’s car crazy reversal 12:31. 14 second later John doesn’t move until 6;15. Let’s go back. Karen at 12:42 takes johns car out of johns garage and puts her car in. You hear her psychotic footsteps and no words are spoken. 12;46 Karen calls, John where are you ? Nobody knows where you are ? But Karen I thought you just dropped him off? What do you mean nobody knows where you are ? Total victim blaming at its finest. John you are a pervert lol. John you are a effin pervert click. Karen’s car reverse out of garbage at 5ish. Bang Karen I see your busted tail light. Busted tail light you are busted. Why didn’t you delete that one dummy ? Only coming in and then when the 3 ladies are checking the tail light. Silly woman. Joh be dead 5am. Click. The plough did it your honour 5:01. Actually to Kerry lol. I did it I hit him it’s my fault. Days later blaming a 17 year old that my daughter could beat. Yeah sure Karen. They pulverised my tail light too. We are all on on the joke right? Umm what is the joke Karen ? You and your story changes? Where did they pulverise your tail light ? At the scene after the reverse ? Did they hold you down kill John and then bust your tail light 😅😂😂😂😂 Or did they do it at 3am and break into johns garage ? Haha. Seriously. This Karen is one sick deranged human.
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  1398. I’ve got to laugh at all the free Karen’s sooking it up. Greene is a fraud and will not be allowed to keep lying about 2:27am. It simple tidbit happen. Dog lady is a pinky no doubt but chances are she will be aloud. Hank is going to destroy Karen with her interviews alone. The new tech stream is damning as most people know. Karen’s frying now.
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  1399. There’s no tail light pieces that fall duh. Karen is a killer. By the way I miss this woman on the show. She was magnificent.
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  1400. Stop the nonsense. Science ? With looking at 15% of the evidence ? Math says you can’t don’t that. Science isn’t anything without Math. Guilty.
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  1401. You don’t know if she’s guilty or not but free this woman ? Seriously? She killed. What on earth would you want to free a woman who killed a man? Does they go for all killers? 2 killing ok? Open slather ?
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  1402.  @l.Marissa.l Are you Tabatha. That’s nice. Any Ken buried in your back yard? You like killers do you? It’s ok for a woman to kill a man a good man? Wake up. She’s as cold as the Ice she left John on that night. While she took her little nap. Monster
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  1403.  @LeannaMurphy-mx7zy a defence witnesses haha. Arca Wanks? Or you talking of old lady miss Jack Russell. Haha. You make it up as you go? The defence have been pigs. The Karen fans are feral and are a walked out bunch of no hopers. Imagine threatening johns family. What animals they are. Go get a job
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  1404.  @JulesAlbright-pq1mq She hot johns car?? Nothing falls. No tail light pieces fall onto white snow. It’s clear. If you know anything about SUVs it would definitely be bumper to bumper. It’s not a trick into a car. Scrap that. Go look yourself. Take the Karen read glasses off. She mentioned her busted tailight at 4;40am. 2 witnesses. McCabe and Kaylee as she’s using Kaylee’s phone. She mentions he’s dead before this drive out. Plow. The plow did it lol. John’s DNA inside the housing. Brand new car. Just think with logic about that. Fragments are embedded into his clothes in among the vomit. Guilty.
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  1405. What’s corrupt? Swearing ? She’s a killer. Don’t ever forget that
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  1406.  @Hbird12 is there evidence that she was framed ? She admitted hitting him. She told Roberts he was dead at 5am or just after. She saw the body when you could not see anything. She said she didn’t hit him that hard and it was a total accident or yannetti did on her behalf. She left a man to die. Yes that cop acted like a Baffoon with mates and if we had all msgs from cops over the last 25 years in murder cases then I’m sure there would be far worse. It wasn’t good at all. It isn’t a crime what he did. Killing somebody is a crime. So if he’s in on a cover up then 45 others are too. That’s ridiculous. Conspiracy is eaten for breakfast in America and if it’s against law enforcement or the government then even better. I’m in the real world. Karen is a killer and that’s a fact. Unless there’s a Time Machine then he didn’t plant those tail light pieces. It’s impossible. That means she crashed her car there and it also makes sense that John’s-shoe is there and he died there. Her car data tells a story. As does John’s phone and her phone. The rest is utter garbage from the defence. Spin doctoring.
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  1407. Witchy woman. Karen read.
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  1408. Nick the golden goose.
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  1409. Geez I used to go on plenty of fish here in Aus around 13 years ago. I met some crazy women but at least they didn’t lead me into that. Man that’s so sad and those people were so evil
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  1410. Simple hit and run. Not sure how we got this far. Conspiracy sells.
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  1411.  @estrella5935 haha. Dreaming. She will be in jail.
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  1412.  @estrella5935 Maybe maybe not. 9-3 manslaughter. None believed in the conspiracy and the Feds found nothing or we wouldn’t be here would we. Possibly always a turtle or 2 gets through. It will be retried again and again. It’s not stopping. She killed him. That’s a fact. Any dummy knows that. She admitted it several times too. Including in court. She may as well live next to the court house, because if she isn’t in jail, she will be in court again and again. There’s YouTubers who should worry about what’s coming too. Many have gone way over the top so there’s more to come and I’m not talking from only one he Okeefe family.
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  1413. I think Jackson proved Karen guilty. Conspiracy’s are not evidence. Jackson has none.
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  1414. Karen did it. She barked like a lunatic all night.
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  1415.  @JeffBegbie Lol. Who told you that? Karen read haha. That’s comedy. Pig dna. Yea John has pizza for lunch with his nephew Patrick. Do you know this case at all ?
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  1416. Would you like a nice one.
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  1417.  @gaylelutes1195 No dog involved. DNA was cleared of any animal involved long ago. That was a PR stunt from the defence. That’s why they dropped it before the trial. People are not good at reading a room are they. Easily bedazzled are the public. I guess that is why she has so much support for a killer.
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  1418. How can anyone defend that ? Jackson in the last Karen read trial would make snorting up lol
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  1419. She is a whack job. That’s proven
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  1420. She thinks this is a joke and she’s acting like a sporting champion who just won a gold medal. It makes me sick. Those women are the most dangerous.
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  1421. Ha trying to bluff. He’s bluffed many. Unless he luffed the jury then this phantom cover up might blow up in his Face.
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  1422. A narcissist is Karen. Honesty isn’t her way.
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  1423. Karen is a killer. It’s very simple.
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  1424.  @cmd76323 the FBI didn’t test a thing. A company did but failed to look at the main evidence. Therefor it’s irrelevant. Experts are supposed to look at evidence lol.
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  1425. Are you kidding ? She said Michelle dumped rubbish. Has she got vision that the state don’t have. What a mind boggling load of comments that woman just spoke. She mustn’t have watched this trial. Terrible they was and should have been pulled up by the hosts. We’re that afraid to pull her up or something. Wow that was woeful.
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  1426.  @TheMissJJ  Are you taking to me ? I’m pointing out the absolute false statements by the person in this interview. I’m a staunch supporter of no one. What I am is always suspicious of is prosecutions and their ethics. I’m also suspicious of police. Do the crime do the time but let’s be serious here. This is the real world with crooks on both sides of the fence. I’m sure you know this. Now if it is proven with evidence that she is guilty, then fine, put her up against the wall. If that is all you have in this particular case, then sorry I would have to say not guilty. I need proof not guess work. Now are you with the state on all cases or just this one ? What makes you think I’m angry. I’m a laid back Aussie bloke kicking back on a hot summers morning next to the pool. I’m as cool as a cucumber. No anger in me at all. I only get angry when someone messes with my kids.
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  1427. Well it’s proven she told the truth with the google search and she didn’t delete it either. Is she what people call a scapegoat? Karen killed John not anyone else including Jen.
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  1428. She is a deadly woman.
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  1429.  @m.o.t7283 The FBI found no cover up. And you did ? Lol. Seriously. John’s DNA inside the housing of Karen’s tail light. It’s a brand new car. Think about that and think again Also, you only have to be able to use a remote to work something out that’s very simple. Karen’s tail light. 5;07am Karen’s tail light has a gaping hole in it. A football could fit in it. Pause zoom. It’s surest be shown all over YouTube. So there can be no cover up of her tail light is busted at 5:07 am can there. Time Machines are not real. So common sense. How did her tail light break ? Logic says it’s at 34 Fairview because it wasn’t damaged before that. It wasn’t damaged on John’s garage. Karen herself says it’s broken at 4;50. Kaylee testified to that. Karen is using her phone remember. So it’s busted. Karen reversal at 12:32 virtually on the second. 8 seconds later John does not move. It’s a simple hit and run. It’s grown alien legs. Whatever the defence theory was of cover ups were all swatted away. FBI found no cover up. Read that last line again. We wouldn’t be at trial otherwise. Karen killed John Okeefe.
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  1430.  @StephanieFlower-d9j Haha. Karen Read eats porridge with the 3 bears. That’s the same volume of books she gets her conspiracies from 😂 Karen goldilocks Read. She made it up as she went and that’s even on the night in question As soon as her first lie didn’t work with leaving him at the waterfall she was still blaming ploughs etc then it hit her and her big mouth couldn’t help it. I hit him Admitted it in court and said it was an accident as you do. Then what happened to the accident 🥴😂😂😂. It changed when distraction Jackson came along That’s when the tales of the crypt Karen turned full circle.
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  1431.  @cfawcett9870 Kaylee’s testimony. Karen us using Kaylee’s phone. The only call Kaylee didn’t hear was Karen’s phone call to daddy and that was before she woke Kaylee while having a crazy fit. So incorrect. Kaylee’s testimony has it all there. Karen changed her story with every phone call. She mentioned a plough to Kaylee too . Something bad has happened to John is virtually the words she woke to. Amazing who you trust hey. You reckon Kaylee is in on this too so you ? Curious. Anyone who believes that needs a head check. Free Karen’s will go to anything they can. Trivial stuff is repeated yet meat on bone evidence is ignored. Karen admitted it. Numerous times. Also in court days later. Karen lied to cover other lies. No phone calls texts were made out front of 34 Fairview while she waited for John for 10 minutes. Remember that’s her 2nd change there. First it was I dropped him off as 3 point turn then left. Did you see him go in? No. Next time I saw him go in and rang him texted him while waiting for 10 mins. Then left. Lies. Proven lies. Data shows it’s lies but Karen can be trusted yeah? I mean why she lying ? Lol. Blaming ploughs 😂. As you do. Calling daddy day care all night as all 40 year old do after midnight. Googled DUI attorneys before even speaking with police and even before johns body is found. Shading stuff. Karen the incredible. X-ray vision. Bionic Karen. She’s obsessively unhinged. Texts the day before prove it. Psycho. Cheater. Nah Karen is trustworthy. Cheats lies kills.
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  1432.  @cfawcett9870 Kaylee testified to that also. She in on the conspiracy as well ? Haha. Yeah right. Karen’s a killer. Get over it and stop supporting a woman who killed a great man for no reason at all but her own selfish jealous crazy psychopathic reason.
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  1433. Burnt another boyfriend’s car down too. She’s a true psychopath. Listen to her voicemails. Wow. Unhinged Karen.
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  1434. Idiot comment. Ease off the bark.
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  1435. Firstly there was meant to be no guns aloud in the cinema. He was thinking he was above the law and yes he was once a part of it. He should have got manslaughter at the least. If he’d stuck to the law in the first place, then there would have been a dispute over a phone and pop corn. You take it from there then. If there’s no gun then old man more than likely would have shut his trap. America let’s these things slide and it’s a free for all. Ridiculous that he got off this. An unarmed man was killed watching a movie. It shouldn’t have happened and again, if he stuck to the law, it stipulates no weapons as you walk in. Very sad that this man died and extremely lucky for the old ex copper to walk free after this.
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  1436.  @josephkain6213  Your song was im a freak. Joey. Little Joey. 😅
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  1437. Exactly. They love a conspiracy against cops. That’s all this is. Karen killed a cop and they won’t get free. What sort of world do we live in
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  1438.  @crimetimeAU he’s on the border of the property. Not out front. Look at the evidence. Though Karen sees him hey. X-ray vision read. The bionic woman with the bionic eye. Guilty.
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  1439. Exactly. Wtf. I thought I was watching a person talking about another trial. What is she saying ? That was terrible and those 2 should have pulled her straight up but they just say their like dumb people accepting whatever hogwash was coming out of the woman’s mouth. Talk about bias without knowledge. She doesn’t have to take the stand. The fact she spoke in the first place is why the state has her on trial. They spoon feed her lies and expect everything that comes out of her mouth to be perfect. You stand in front of 5 detectives and hear your child will never be with you because you are going to jail. My brain would be all over the joint. As would my fear.
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  1440. But she left him to die so that’s on top of hitting him. In other words he cooks have been saved. She decided not to. Cold.
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  1441. Firstly it was ice cold so things stick. Then covered with snow.
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  1442. Hogwash
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  1443.  @hardwired8084 what are you on about. Are you another one who said the Google search was at 2:47 ? I have studied his case from long ago. She killed John. The rest is smoke and mirrors and many people get swayed very easily without facts.
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  1444. You are kidding. She ruined many lives. 2 kids that already lost their parents.
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  1445.  @jd5061 so the judge just strolls to the bench right ? Haha. Maybe the folks on the other side are incompetent. Bedrow is an idiot. The other bloke was worse. As for turtle. Scum of the earth.
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  1446.  @beatrizsmith7293 the dog theory just like the Google search theory is evaporated lol. It’s gone. No doggy involved. DNA from a canine who be dripping on him. How much DNA would you leave on someone yourself if you bit them. It’s a myth. A defence myth.
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  1447.  @workingonmyroar7944 no that is another defence. She said she got him. Firstky she says she didn’t drop him off then she says she did. Then she says she was out front for 10 mins and watched him go inside. Then she said she was too drunk too remember lol. So which one is it Karen.
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  1448. So Richard Greene is a criminal. What me of the charges involved kids. He should be in jail.
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  1449. She was on holidays with the kids on the occasions these other girls went missing.
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  1450. Did they suggest payment?? Did Arcca lie? Dud Jackson lie? Yes.
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  1451. Better hope turtles and Karen’s don’t start with conspiracies on this one. Anything’s possible.
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  1452.  @thetruecrimegazette all over the place.
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  1453.  @whereisgeorge1226 that’s what Karen abd the defence have done since they changed thee story the first time. Remember at first they said sorry my client didn’t mean it. No criminal intent. She had a brain tumour your honour 🥴. So wanted sympathy already with lies Karen said she didn’t think she hit him all that hard. 😅😅😅.
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  1454.  @donhagerman4868 You cannot have both. Ones a killer and ones deceased. Only justice is Karen sits in a cold cell for the rest of days.
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  1455.  @AttorneyDeborah The evidence is overwhelming against her. Firstly the FBI have cleared any cover up. Being of logic, you don’t have to think what comes of that. So no cover up found whatsoever. There can only be one. If you study the data in this case then it’s a no brainer. Karen went hell raiser reverse when she lost her marbles in a moment of madness. We know she reversed at 12:32 and we know John never moves again. His DNA inside the housing of the tailight. It’s a brand new car so any dummy would know how and when it got there. Also looking with common sense, at 5;07am there’s Karen coming out of johns garage. As she is about to drive off out of town he driveway in that last picture, you just need to pause and zoom. The gaping hole is already there. That smashes any ludicrous conspiracy out of the park in one hit. Unless you believe you believe cops chase Karen from 12:32 to 12:37 with a hammer and a sack to carry tail light pieces in lol. Maybe Karen should have gone with that fairy tale from the beginning. Karen changed her statements in this case numerous times. You don’t need to change 14 stories if you are innocent. Even when evidence came trickling in , she lies again to cover other lies. This time she’s waiting for 10 mins lol. Calling texting out front. Fact is that’s a lie of course because no calls texts were made there. John’s with her for 8 mins out front. His phone put him out front. As soon as he moves for 8 seconds it’s bang crash time. Doesn’t move again. Karen’s only calls to John started after her reverse and speeding away. 12:33 12:34 12:34 12:35 and we know she arrives at John’s at 12:36. So lying Karen is caught again. She leaves no voicemail at all. She just keeps ringing. That’s until she’s arrived at John’s. 12:37. John I F—-g hate you. That’s loving Karen. Karen’s victim blaming again. Just like she did 12 hours earlier. John you are setting me up to fail 🥴 She’s nuts. Unhinged. A psychopath. Obsessively bad Jealously. She’s cheating but that’s ok. What a monster. 100% she’s the culprit. What your spin is there is comedy. It’s free Karen language. If you are smart you know she’s guilty. If not smart then that’s still surprising. Maybe bias? Who knows. Look at the evidence and stop supporting a killer.
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  1456.  @gingersmith2888  I don’t judge anything off one event. It’s fair to say there’s been a few murders I’ve read about or watched documentaries on from America. How many thousand, I am not sure but it isn’t the safest country in the world is it. Let’s take 3rd world countries out of the numbers. America has 5% of the world’s population and if it had under 10% of the worlds homicides or murders, then you’d almost take that. Fact is it doesn’t. Mass shootings school shootings and just plain old murder one on one is in abundance in the USA. So unless you have blinkers on or don’t see things while you are inside, then maybe you and others don’t see. From a far you get a good picture of things. I am not perfect and either is my country. Far from it. Humans aren’t ever going to be perfect. What I would say is, as a parent, I’ve never had fears of let’s say my kids at school. It’s a safe place where I’m from. No school has ever had a shooting in my country. Mass shootings are virtually none existent. We have different laws and a different culture. If we have a beef then it most cases we don’t shoot each other. It’s usually settled with fists. Much better chance of survival there. There is murders in every country, even the great ones. crime organisations will never stop knocking off each other. This is a murder for hire case and yep we have them or have had them but geez, compared to what happens in America, it’s a different world. It just seems to be a less safe country as time goes by.
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  1457.  @gingersmith2888  judging by population,, in 2017 The USA comes 4th in homicides in the world. El Salvador Honduras and it maybe Jamaica are just in front. The USA wouldn’t be in the safest 100 countries to live in. Those are the facts and they aren’t judged on high profile cases.
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  1458.  @gingersmith2888  highest murder rates per 100 thousand people. Sth America the Caribbean and the USA. The USA isn’t even on the list of the 50 most safe countries in the world. I very much doubt it would be in the top 100 list either. Fact is, it isn’t a safe country or even close. Only bias or being naive would have you mention otherwise. I’m sure you love your country and fair enough. We don’t always like what is said about something we love or where we live. As you would know, the serial killer has slowly been taken over by the mass shooter. I’m sure you are aware with that even without data. I love people and I love the world. I would love America to get better and be better. Of course in these times, there’s things happening in other countries that aren’t close to being good. My own country I would love to be better. It’s getting worse world wide. Wouldn’t it be great if there was less killing in the world.
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  1459.  @HarleyChick-x6k FBI going No conspiracy no cover up. Where you getting your info? Tadpole boy?
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  1460. Jealous ? She’s unhinged. Hates kids. Goes reverse like a nutcase and in that moment John Okeefe didn’t move again. Her car would have beeped like crazy. She’s a cunning killer. Story telling from her is like a comedy show. People believing her would have to be family or earning money or complete morons
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  1461. Guilty
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  1462.  @2hearts1song4ever8 wrong. What you said was false. From top to bottom
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  1463.  @logicandreason8090 How can you do physics with 1/3 of evidence. Explain that ? Do you think Einstein didn’t look at everything to make proper judgments ? Open your eyes man. Open the mind. The data is science and all of it shows what happened. So if you go by science and you take the line of, we’ll he says that but only had part of the evidence so I believe him. Then you have full evidence full science full GPS full DNA and up are in denial then nobody can help you
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  1464.  @Steve-fs4zh Lol.
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  1465.  @andreanicole1294 Wrong. Maybe look fully into it before making judgments. You sound like the car reconstruction guys. Look at 1:3 of evidence but make a full judgment. 🙄
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  1466. Just because police is sloppy doesn’t mean Karen didn’t kill that man. She killed him alright. The devil woman.
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  1467.  @vitalucas9452 Her admission at first. Her four story changes.
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  1468.  @Stuckinthemiddle8214 Dumbest comment of the week so far goes to Stealers wheels. Ridiculous comment. I only don’t like her for the reason that she killed a great man because she had an unhinged moment where she snapped like a biscuit. Not sure she should be jealous if you are cheating. What do you think ? Why she reversing like a stunt woman at 12:32am out front of house in wet conditions? Towards her boyfriend? He didn’t move again after that so it’s not rocket science. GPS never gets him in the house so he didn’t go on a house. Any house. She blaming plows. That’s after she takes a nap. You hear her anger 5 mins later at 12:37. Breathing fire like a dragon woman. Her car is on camera at 5:07am and there’s a hole in her tailight that a football could get into. Parts of Her car is all around a dead man. Somehow she had X-ray vision and identity’s John in the dark in a blizzard ,under a cover of snow and all this while she’s on the phone. She knew he was there and that’s common sense. Blaming plows 🥴. If she ain’t guilty there’s no such thing. So it’s not personal, it’s just the fact she’s a demon. Could have possibly saved him but instead needed a nap. She needs life in a very cold cell.
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  1469.  @nicenessispriceless2681 I am price and you are priceless. Haha. Kidding. Listen lady, all I can tell you is maybe study one piece of evidence. It’s called GPS coordinates. Study the data. John. Never went in the house and that’s actually a fact. It’s not a story made up by a defence, like beatings from 17 year olds or rabid dogs with no hair or DNA or conspiracy theories with no evidence. GPS is for real. You cannot change it. You can’t say it is something else. GPS coordinates as well as vehicle data Waize data and Apple data never put John in a house any house. GPS is built for military meaning war. It is what it is. John lay down not moving at 12;32am 8 seconds after Karen finished doing her psychotic reversal. She killed him.
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  1470.  @nicenessispriceless2681 guilty. She admitted it.
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  1471.  @ampmf13 It’s glaringly obvious that she smoked him.
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  1472. Next it will be Ronald McDonald. It was Karen and no one else.
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  1473.  @janeevans1859 Really? Well you know that Karen is a crazy psychopath then. Also you’d know she’s a killer. Good to know.
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  1474.  @gdlhp lol.
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  1475.  @Estate25 The feds have given the case the go ahead. I’m not sure you understand what that means ?? If not I’ll help you. It means they found no case to answer for unless you are talking about Karen Read.
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  1476.  @KS-eg6mb haha. You kidding or what ?
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  1477.  @TB-ic4ty 9-3. Let’s see this time
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  1478.  @glamdolly30 is this the same woman that was cheating ? Is it the same one that wanted to flee with the married man father of 6 to another country ? Yeah great mother.
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  1479.  @aznaturegirl maybe you should take your own advice. Stop having a go at everyone who believes Karen is a killer. She is a killer. Half a brain will show you that.
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  1480. Karen Nutter.
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  1481. Well yep. She was angry hit the gas and wiped him. Then she failed to help him.
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  1482.  @skippyla experts without evidence lol. Yeah. Move on
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  1483.  @rootbeerfloat77 where do you get your facts from ? Everyone did as John’s mother said herself.
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  1484. True but he couldn’t be as cocky as the killer Karen.
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  1485.  @hardwired8084 she called him from home countless times.
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  1486. Karen and turtle ? Let’s hope so. I you mean the swearing cop. Didn’t know they was against the law in text jags to friends. New laws just come in did they?
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  1487. If she acquitted then there’s a strong chance theirs a wrongful death suite coming and in that she has to testify. Like OJ. Also there could be witness harassment charges brought on with tadpole boy or whatever’s it’s called.
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  1488. If found not guilty there will be a wrongful death suite against her. She will have to testify. All evidence points to read as the killer. The only way she gets off is trial by media. So yeah expect the suite against Karen not the other way lol.
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  1489.  @john_drennon Yes that’s already been done. Did you miss that ? That’s why there’s a trial. They found no conspiracy or cover up. Not sure people understand this.
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  1490. Another one🙄 dog theory was dropped before the case. Wake up. Do you think dogs don’t leave DNA lol. Or maybe wear gloves haha. Come on. Seriously.
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  1491. Doggie DNA. the defence dropped it long ago. Why do you think that is?? Why do you think they went with that theory before the trial but not when it starts? Think ?
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  1492.  @rickjason215 I’m sure you are a smart person. What part of there was no animal DNA on the body of John Okeefe do you not understand? No animal which means no dog so what on earth are you going to do with a dog ? The defence were never going with that. They just threw it up into the media before trial to gain more followers and people who loved a coverup. It shouldn’t be allowed. As soon as the trial started well guess what., they drop that theory and are no blaming a 17 year old kid and reckon he beat up a big copper. The worlds gone mad. Karen did it. The story isn’t as sexy but that is what happened
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  1493.  @rickjason215 There’s no DNA. The gods Andreas is there if they want it. You cannot go test a dog if DNA clears any animal. Use your noggin. It’s a defence ploy that’s actually laughable. Same as the cops bashed him and plonked him on their front lawn.
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  1494.  @sandywrites dog lol. He didn’t move as soon as Karen reversed. Good story though.
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  1495.  @luv-ing-ya5622 Karen will only get Justine if she pays dearly. She killed a man. Don’t look at a mirage.
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  1496.  @sandywrites why? The ignorance of people that think she’s innocent is actually beating a joke. Grown people believing in fairy stories. Strange behaviour.
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  1497.  @trish818 9-3. None of the 3 thought anyone in the house killed Jphn or there was a cover up. None. It’s only moronic people who go with what suits them. The 3 had doubt. So be it. Conspiracy no chance. Only dummy’s or conspiracy tv shows go with that. You actually need evidence. There isn’t any. It’s all against Cujo Karen Read
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  1498. Prefer amber. At least she didn’t kill. Let’s face it, Depp is no better. I’d prefer ambers looks as well. Karen? Unattractive. Looks like something out of evil dead. In the cellar.
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  1499. It’s a very simple case of hit and run.
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  1500.  @bonniegropper they are drug taking bludgers.
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  1501.  @roseyb do you mean Karen ?
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  1502. The body was gone when they were awoken.
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  1503.  @SharpTac  they probably don’t have Norman Bates mother around to do a Karen.
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  1504.  @Rossi4040 that’s comedy. Pig DNA but no dog DNA and you say it’s a dog treat. ? Even though he had pizza with his nephew that day? Haha. Sure
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  1505. Is that when he had a monitor on him or when he was being surveyed ? So far they have not hit him in that area. His truck has GPS. How did she get there?? They’d the question. Either someone has helped in some way, or we have another killer ? Gunna need evidence, not oh we reckon he did it.
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  1506.  @mauiswift6391 very bizarre.
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  1507. Maybe they kill and that’s their dumping zone.
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  1508. Maybe had her held for a time like his other victims. Not saying this happened but anything is possible.
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  1509. None of the cars her car his truck were in that location. They have GPS on them. That’s where I’m dumbfounded on how she gets there. They follow him after this and then he has an ankle tracker on. So his traces as far as I know are not at this site. Unless there’s a hitman or accomplices then ? It’s baffling. Or unless of course that it’s a killer rapist that hasn’t been sort after.
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  1510. Nut job Karen.
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  1511.  @TheMik579 Yeah what about them ? I certainly did watch the trial the pretrial the works. I’ve also gone through all evidence including data. Colin wasn’t even there so not even sure why on earth you mentioned him but anyway let’s move onto the next 2. If you think getting rid of your phone is suspicious then you certainly didn’t watch the trial. Casing point. Look at Jen McCabe. Did nothing wrong and was told she googled how long at 2:27am. Proven false as it was when Karen demanded it at 6;23 and virtually 10 mins later in the ambulance she said the same thing, though this time it was how long to die without a coat. Karen had the coat in her car and knew John didn’t wear it when she struck him. She was the only one who knew how long he was out there for or why would she ask it ? I mean he could have been there 10 mins couldn’t he? She knew when and she knew how. Back to phones. You and I after watching this trial would get rid of our phones. You can be accused of anything. Like Jen McCabe. One cop worked under cover. Of course that stuff can never be seen by anyone. Both were smart. What if they were having affairs ? I’m sure you get it. How would you like the world looking at your phone ? Lastly. The FBI have cleared any cover up. That should be the end of it. Fact is John never got to the house because Karen didn’t let him. She lost her marbles at 12:32 when crash boom bang in reverse. We know that. We know John doesn’t move 8 seconds later. So he’s hit he’s on the ground where he cracked his skull. He has time to vomit on himself and then falls unconscious. We know how angry Karen is. We hear her 5 mins later. Sounding like the devil. John I f——-g hate you in her beautiful voice 😂. Unhinged Karen was unhinged all day. Read the texts 12 hours before. What a nut job. I’ve had many crazy girlfriends as I used to be attracted to the psychos for some stupid reason. She’s definitely a crazy one. Obsessed jealous and crazy. Dangerous types those ones. She’s a killer. That’s a fact. It’s obvious. She admitted it. She’s blaming plows at 5am. As you do lol. Says he is dead. Says it’s her fault. Says it was an accident in court. Says she didn’t think she hit him that hard. Umm it’s not hard is it ? Well it shouldn’t be.
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  1512. Jackson looks like an oompa loomoa. Your crazy conspiracy didn’t work. What’s your next magic trick Jackson ? Intimidating? Threatening witnesses. ? Send yanetti to meet people at schools and scare kids? What’s the next low life action ? As for demon Karen. The fire will be hot.
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  1513. It isn’t complex at all. It’s a simple hit and run. It’s grown alien legs and fairy stories forms defence have been loaded up onto conspiracy tv shows. So for Karen’s team it’s defence. For others it’s a money making machine. It’s like fake alien shows. Same deal. Debunking shows won’t rate and earn money. The made up ones will. Americans love a conspiracy. They eat them for breakfast.
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  1514.  @Annaw1070 Karen framed herself
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  1515. The FBI have given the go ahead. In other words the corruption claim is bogus and the proof is there that she hit him and left him for dead. She is guilty.
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  1516. Especially if she struck him and the guilt is hitting you as the hours go by. You are in a nightmare and you pray he picks up that phone or you are in deep water.
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  1517. The truck has GPS. He wasn’t in that area at all. He was monitored after that and then had an tracker on him. So far they haven’t got him in that area of her corpse. That’s the million dollar question.
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  1518. And ? I’m sure you’d be saying some nasty things to friends if a person killed one of your brothers.
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  1519. About time someone had the balls to say it how it is. He hates her. So do I. She’s a killer. She’s a narcissist. Matt is a fan boy. How’s him a while back, how you holding up Karen ? Wow. Yeah let’s ask how killers are holding up. What a tough life they have. Again. About time someone had the balls to say exactly how Karen read is. A blaming narcissist. Killer.
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  1520.  @erkaderka3571 lol
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  1521. They are a mess. You are totally correct. The justice system is pathetic
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  1522. Karen reads sister
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  1523.  @HomeAtOahu what are you talking about? Karen struck John at 12:31:50. John doesn’t move after 12:32. What’s 12::36? Well that’s just before the. Crazy Karen call. Did you know that was her 5th call in 5 mins? So she rang 4 times from 12:33 to 12:36 then at 12:37 she’s victim blaming. It’s John’s fault remember. John I f——g hate you. John’s fault like 12 hours earlier when she said John you are setting me up to fail. She was a ticking tomb bomber all day. No one was outside the house at 12:36? You getting your times mixed up? The car behind Kate ha was long gone. No one even walked out at 12:36? Yeah you aren’t correct there. Also there’s music going. You saw the breaking of her car. It doesn’t skid like most new cars. Or did you miss that too ?
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  1524.  @rkc8588 12:31:50. Johns phone doesn’t move again. Yes he did say in opening tone but it was cleared up through out the trial. Opening isn’t evidence. It’s a platform. Jackson called the wrong man proctor. So? Does that mean that not evidence and we should dismiss the whole questioning lol. No it doesn’t. 12:45 was a minute before 12:46. 14 minutes after the incident Karen said John where are you ? Nobody knows where you are? Say what Karen? Nobody knows where you are? Didn’t you just drop him off 14 minutes ago? Where do you think he will be? Going for his midnight kid while he’s half tanked ? Haha. Give it up Karen. You are really panicking aren’t you. He ain’t answering that phone and your nightmare is growing by the minute. Then sone victim blaming full throttle once more. Same voice mail at 12:46 -John you are a F——-g pervert. It’s John’s fault she swiped him. Never hers. Like 12 hours earlier. John , you are setting me up to fail. No Karen, you are setting yourself up to fail. She was angry all day and it lingered. She snapped like a biscuit. Total psychopath.
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  1525.  @HomeAtOahu 12:36 ? It happened at 12:31. Where you getting your time lines from ? Tadpole boy?
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  1526.  @HomeAtOahu are you drinking turtle juice on your pick outfit ?? You are wrong. Like usual. Go watch the trial on repeat.
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  1527.  @HomeAtOahu You ok lol. She left at 12:32. It doesn’t say seconds when arriving but we will call it 12:36:30 ok. She sped when swiping him. So she’s hammering home too. Locals said easily you could get there in just over 4 mins.
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  1528. Firstly Amber didn’t kill anyone and it was proven in England that Depp was abusing her but in America it wasn’t. Make of that what you will. Both nut jobs. Karen is definitely with these women killers. No one else. Just Karen in this case.
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  1529. Lol
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  1530. Lol
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  1531.  @user-ukt He saves the worst. Spacey. Sickening. Child killer whatever her name was. Sickening. Karen. Sickening.
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  1532. Yeah the truth is she necked herself. It’s plain and simple. Those are the facts.
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  1533.  @alwaysdisputin9930 lol. Anyone knows who looks at all evidence. The smart people know. The low IQs are lost.
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  1534.  @lockout999  lol. Evidence is damning. Open those eyes
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  1535. She’s guilty as it gets. Not sure why people but the fairy stories. Why do smart people believe in 4 different stories? Which one of her stories is true. The only thing I’d believe is the part she said she hit him.
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  1536.  @Tammy_26Irwin Who’s salty. Are you ok ? You aren’t related to this crazy Nutter are you arrogance is there in spades. Maybe pull your head in woman.
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  1537. Lock her up next to Karen read. They can talk about killing men for 20 years.
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  1538. It will never be a cold case. We know who done it. Killer Karen. If she happens to be acquitted then there will be a wrongful death suite. Take that to the bank. Karen will have to answer to her lies and we will get the same result as the OJ saga.
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  1539. Only one person is guilty. No cold case here. Karen is the essence of evil.
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  1540. At the same tone Karen did her psycho reverse lol. John never moved from that moment on. Her tail light broke ? It’s shown at 5:07am. What broke it? The air
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  1541.  @margaretmorris-calderon2826  yeah right
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  1542. Lol
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  1543. Fan boy Matt. Surprised he isn’t holding a free Karen sign.
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  1544. No she thought he would cop the hit take it like a man and get up. When he doesn’t answer over and over she panics. 20 mins after the drop off one of her voicemails was , John where are you ? Nobody knows where you are? Say what ? Didn’t she just drop him off ? She hasn’t spoken to anyone else by phone. What sores she mean nobody knows where you are. ?? You f—-ing pervert. Her angered personality comes out. She snaps like a biscuit. Drop of a hat. She’s so guilty. Blames a plow as the killer then finds him in snow. Yep no worries. Killer
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  1545.  @waynefoote3781 guilty. Some people have zero idea
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  1546.  @DesignRhythm we witnessed the car before it got to canton. What are you taking about? Go rewind and this time look properly. Huge piece missing.
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  1547.  @DesignRhythm because the i impact was to the head not the body. He was more than likely trying to avoid his nut job girlfriend and yeah in reverse as we know by her car data she clipped him and shattered his drinking glass into his inner arm but more importantly she damaged John severely. Worst thing is she could have possibly saved him there and then. He could have survived but instead she panicked. We now know she didn’t sleep and that’s another one of her lies. 53 calls ? Calls to her parents in the midnight hours ? She went back to look at her dirty work at 5:14. What a monster. That’s when she rang Roberts and said John’s dead. Then hangs up. She rings again, he could be dead and probably got hit by a plough 🙄 I mean common sense hey. Who does that. Then she sees John in the darkness of night and in a blizzard ? No one else saw him. How many cars do you think drove past in those 5 hours? Must have been many and no one saw nothing. Yet she sees a body and says there’s John. Roberts has no skin in this. That’s why the defence said nothing to her. Karen killed John Okeefe. That’s a fact.
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  1548.  @DesignRhythm it was a reverse clip of his head. There has to be a head on with impact or someone going up your behind fairly hard. I’ve been in car accidents where the air bag didn’t go off. In fact it’s never gone off and my whole front end was damaged.
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  1549. FBI didn’t testify. The company had no evidence and took a guess. They said it’s inconsistent. Irrelevant. Need all evidence. That’s why they weren’t taking seriously. Jury member explained that. Jury’s are usually common sense intelligent people. Not people who watch conspiracy tv.
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  1550.  @notsorryyouretriggered never that desperate for Karen. She is guilty.
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  1551.  @gunselshaly537 stop the nonsense.
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  1552.  @Peanut_Gallery_411 peanut. It suits. Karen’s a killer. Kids could tell you that after looking through all evidence and data. You do know the FBI going no cover up don’t you ? Are you saying you did ? Or YouTubers did lol. Seriously. Do you believe we would be going to a 2nd trial had the FBI found a go at up ? Funny stuff
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  1553.  @aznaturegirl lol she guilty.
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  1554. Yep. 25 years plus.
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  1555. She Karen is so guilty and also a twisted narcissist
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  1556. Nick
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  1557.  @jatteam8615 yeah well accidentally on purpose. We will never know. She reversed like a nut job for a reason. Her anger we hear loud and clear. She f—ing hates him. She says he is dead at 5am. Killed by a plow. So she knows he’s injured back there where she left him in the snow. So is it an accident that she didn’t help him at 12:32:16. Until 6am. She didn’t call police at all. 911!?? Kerry Roberts did and rang hospitals. She was the one caring out of those 2. She guilty. I doubt they’ll ever get murder even if she went back to the body and new GPS evidence shows this. She’s a white American bien woman. They go light on them. If it was a man. Forget it. This show would x be over 12 months ago. He’s in for 50 plus. Her. ? Who knows. 20 of found guilty. She should be going to the gallows pole in reality.
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  1558. Spot on. What kind of human is she ? I mean she’s evil to the core.
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  1559.  @GenerationXChick he is a liar. Factually. You like that. Is that carful enough for you. He lies daily.
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  1560.  @GenerationXChick Yes he does. Stop lying about mark lying. He lies. You are lying. 🤩
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  1561.  @InvictumLupus lol.
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  1562. @ are you born this way or is this a recent phenomenon of stupidity??? Karen’s a killer. A 12 year old can see that. My boyfriend is dead a plow hit him has never been said in human history. Then an hour later she herself finds him dead next to a plow blank. That’s a billion to one. Are you saying she’s a fortune teller with bionic XRAY vision 😂😂😂. Stop. Wake up.
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  1563. Because shes a cold blooded killer that has dreamt up a conspiracy with tadpole and fans
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  1564. She’s a snake. Narcissistic killer
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  1565. She’s so full of it. Total narcissistic evil woman. Look at her smiling. No remorse.
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  1566.  @williamp6800 haha. Yeah well it matters because she did hit him. It’s a very simple hit and run. It’s just grown some alien abduction legs and many tadpoles don’t know how to think. Karen was honest once. So 9 lies and 1 bit of honesty. The honest part was I hit him I hit him omg I hit him. Also in court days later. People have their own brains. It’s up to them if they want to sit there with the 3 bears and eat porridge. It’s up to them if they believe in big foot. It’s a free world Billy boy. There is fact and fiction though. Hit and runs are too boring for the average American. They make up a conspiracy every day. They eat them for breakfast. It’s like the alien sightings in the American desert lol. The aliens only go to America lol. Like they are the only place on earth. Australia has a bigger desert 🥴 Africa is massive. Europe? Nah they just visit the US. Money to be made in conspiracy’s though. Debunked shows don’t. Not sure why America is the conspiracy capital of the world ? There’s definitely something in the air there.
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  1567. Because she’s a Nutter. She was panicked and that’s why she fled. Then she had to gain witnesses when finding him. I’m guessing she didn’t want him dead but too little too late Karen. That’s why she rang Ms Roberts and stated John is dead then hung up. Umm who does that ? Then next call and convo, he could be dead and think he was hit by a plough ? Umm what the? Guilty. She knew where John was and knew he was in a bad way. She caused it.
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  1568. Didn’t they say they call him that? I have nick names for many. They have them for me. Is that a crime or look suss 😂
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  1569. Here we go lol. Her eyes 👀 haha
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  1570.  @koreo7318 at 640am lol. Yeah ok.
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  1571. The house was on the market months before. 6 months after the horse was sold so what ? He didn’t go in the house. Watching the trial proved that. So it’s irrelevant
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  1572.  @Smithpolly Yeah of course but geez they are killing in truck loads in recent years. Look YouTube media social media is almost the new evil. What I mean by that is these shows can rule the roost. They can influence the public’s thoughts with misinformation. So instead of balanced reporting which is what reporting is meant to be, we have these outlets running with whatever is taking in money. Karen Read case is a perfect example. I’ve looked at all evidence from start to finish and I’ve also listened to this media dribble even before the trial started. A conspiracy is a serious money maker. A simple hit and run isn’t. So you can spread mis truths almost in cult like fashion. Americans eat conspiracies for breakfast. So even though Karen Read is definitely guilty, the media will give what these fan clubs want and just lie. Doesn’t matter if its hurting innocent people. It’s bordering on evil what you can get away with in this social media YouTube. Worlds gone mad. So yes you are correct of course. Even though numbers are up, women killers rate highly on tv they fascinate. Women also take 8 years to be locked away compared to males 4 years. They have different sentence rules and get away with more. . They usually kill people they love or did love more than males. Stats say so. Men kill strangers more often or people they’ve just met. There’s no balance at all these days. We are starting to see trial by media It’s just wrong. We also have real professionals unable to give their honest opinion because they get backlash at dangerous levels. This YouTube needs to halt these things. You shouldn’t be able to blatantly lie and make a load of money at this moment people’s expense.
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  1573. Why ? Because he defended Johnny Depp the criminal who is America’s love child.
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  1574.  @jewels07 get a life. Just because many of us believe Karen is a killer does not make us trolls. Grow up
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  1575. 2:27am is not possible that the search was done then. You can’t have experts lying. Green will end up in jail if he keeps it up
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  1576. She admitted hitting him and then when Jackson joined the team the conspiracy theory started. Work that out.
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  1577. She’s a killer. The ice lady
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  1578.  @dollarmatian Shoe ? It’s near the gutter. So where he was hit Lol.
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  1579.  @Laura-thf You can assure me can you ? Well she definitely killed John Okeefe. It would be a travesty of justice if it keeps being a hung jury. No way it will ever be mot guilty verdict. 9-3 last time. I’m expecting 10-2 11-1 or possibly 12-0 guilty. We will see. She’s a demon
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  1580.  @LittleMissStamper If you think Yanetti and Jackson have been professionals then you’ve got no idea. Great to hear how people really feel with this nut case Karen read. She’s unhinged a psycho a narcissistic demon. There’s more too
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  1581.  @user-ukt She is unhinged. People call that normal lol. I’ve been with crazies but those texts during the day wow. Those voicemails. 14 mins after hitting him she says where are you nobody knows lol. Ok Karen. You just rammed him 14 mins ago. She’s trying to Cover. Pervert. Effing pervert. She cannot help her anger. She cannot hold back. He’s been hit by a plough haha. Ok Karen. He’s dead ? How do you know. It’s my fault I did it I did it. Your effing kids etc. crazy. Imagine what she was at the time of reverse.
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  1582. Is that because they don’t ride the conspiracy like a fake moron ?
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  1583.  @Aboma2012 haha. You ok? All that was debunked. Dii is didn’t listen ? John never got in the house. GPS probes that. Dogs have DNA 🥴. Stop the comedy.
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  1584. 😂😂😂
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  1585. He is right. She is a whack job
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  1586. She killed him. No one else did it.
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  1587.  @karinaz8756 there’s more damage to the car then a tail light.
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  1588.  @Imabrat449 and before they had Karen’s car back at the port. So a cover up theory is gone out the door. Unless they had a Time Machine. She’s guilty
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  1589.  @Smittylee guilty as anyone ever. Cheats and kills. What a woman.
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  1590. Only one killer. Her name is Karen. You may have heard of her. She’s a wrecking machine.
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  1591.  @annemerritt3722 Stop lying. Or check your eyesight
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  1592.  @abbydoss4967 No just honest.
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  1593.  @MariaM-up2he Do they. I haven’t really looked at them as they aren’t killers. Karen’s head is on screen a lot. She likes to talk about what happened on tv day time shows. Different stories with each channel. She needs a muzzle. Jackson can’t control his women. Chucky needs to quieten his bride.
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  1594.  @annemerritt3722 Karen , put the wine bottle down.
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  1595.  @leanndoolin4284 right
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  1596.  @aznaturegirl Don’t believe every myth told by the defence. It’s slowly turning. Now they’ve dropped the dog scratching and bites theory.. hang on ? Why are they changing? Why did her lawyer at the start say it was a total accident and days later change they? She changed her story to whatever the evidence was telling her. Then it’s snowballed. She should have just admitted it all the way and said it was an accident if it was. The fact they went with murder, put them into a corner I suppose. So now they are scratching around for anything they can. Why drop the dog theory ? Do you know why? Because they now know it isn’t a animal involved through DNA. Doggy didn’t wear gloves and clean up his slobber at the scene did he.
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  1597.  @darcyjeanske821 why she asking the question is she saw him go inside ? Well she’s got 40 stories but let’s go with that one. Liar. Lying is in her DNA
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  1598.  @SunnyDays70s it is. It’s been tested. You’ll hear that soon.
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  1599. Most judges go into 2nd trials. Am I wrong ?
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  1600. Take your conspiracy goggles off. It’s a simple hit and run. The car data shows it. So does Karen’s words and actions. The rest is fairy story’s.
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  1601. Haha. Like I said. Take the foggy glasses off. She’s a killer and also a hell raiser. Whatever happens in this trial with OJ Read there’s more to come. A wrongful death suite is definitely going to come if she is acquitted. Then she has to get on the stand just like OJ. So her 14 lies are shown and she has to answer for them. Do you actually know she has texts with turtle brain that she states she clipped him ? Anyways that’s part of the future. She will also be in line of witness harassment with in cohorts with turtle. That’s coming. There’s plenty to come. Stay tuned. Oh lastly Yanetti is in serious strife. He maybe even barred. Watch this space.
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  1602. 😂😂😂 goggles off please
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  1603.  @cyndifromVA only a truck load
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  1604.  @Dynomite132010 the tailight was busted with a gaping home in it at 5;07sm. What fairy story are you telling ? Open your eyes. Own a remote? Use it. Lol. What a ridiculous comment. No one said he wasn’t hit by a car. Another made up fairy story. Inconsistent isn’t the same as it didn’t. You the defence dribbler? Wipe your mouth. Either take facts or don’t take. Too many like you online.
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  1605.  @Dynomite132010 speaking crap. Stop it. Tailight was busted. Gaping hole. Look closely. You blindfolded 🥹. No one said a cat didn’t hit him. No one. Besides Karen and her goons
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  1606. Haha. Dynamite. What a know nothing you are. Tailoght busted gaping hole. 5;07am. Take the Karen read blindfold off. No one said he wasn’t hit by a car. Arcca said inconsistent. When pressed they said it’s possibly. Stop talking crap. Sniffing conspiracy dust. Haha. 👽👽👽
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  1607.  @Dynomite132010 garbage. You are full of it. 💀💀💀. You sound like turtle girl . Or Melanie little brain. 😱😱😱
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  1608.  @Dynomite132010 😂😂😂
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  1609.  @Bullbait no she hasn’t. She had no criminal intent at her first hearing but yep her story changed and she has the right to make up stories as do the defence. She admitted it at the scene as told by 4 people. She virtually admitted it by mistake in her interviews. She slipped up. He didn’t look mortally wounded. Ok so then you left? Answer yes! She’s lied like 8 to 10 times in interviews alone. Different stories. Making it up as she goes. Let’s play then in court and let the jury decide
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  1610. This case is crazy. Their theory is wrong. There’s holes in their case. They’ll have to plug them or find new evidence.
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  1611. Nick 😂😂 he’s a kid with zero idea. He’s like turtle neck. Just a fan with zero upstairs
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  1612. Imagine having a lying fraud on your show. Melanie little brain.
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  1613.  @selmeb1291 😂😂😂 haha. Jen now. Lol.
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  1614. By the defence 🥹 yes true. Frauds and conspiracy YouTubers working for them. Shocking
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  1615. Guilty.
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  1616.  @Amontillado72 9-3 last time with a shocking prosecution. Don’t be too certain.
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  1617.  @debbysalmon2498 I know this evidence like the back of my hand. I’ve studied because I’m old snd I don’t sleep. She killed hon and slowly. Fact. Or was or the plow Karen lol. A plow killed my boyfriend and I predicted he to be dead on snow. I was close. Not quite dead. Who’s angry ? Who’s reversing ? Lol. Who’s got a busted tailught ? Who said there was no criminal intent your honour. Who said this was a tragic mistake ? Who said I did this this is my fault? Who said did I unwittingly incapacitate him? What unthought was did i tag his knee ? Did I hit hit hit him or just clip him ? he didn’t look mortally wounded so I left. lol. Who ?
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  1618.  @burcugriffin5501 she also admitted it and I’m talking over a dozen lies. Killers don’t need to change stories do they. Karen is evil.
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  1619.  @Katrina-qs2rl Haha. Same bucket of evil. Only the naive or fan club would say any different
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  1620.  @burcugriffin5501 Innocent people don’t have 14 different stories do they. First it’s dropped him off at the waterfall after a fight. Caught I a lie. Then after at first admitting to it on Court and saying it was an accident she them said she dropped him off and 2 Alberts killed him then pulverised my tailight lol. Another lie. Did she see it lol. She said on front of Kaylee on the phone that she did something bad. Did I hit him could he be I hit him. My tail light is busted. Also told Kaylee she thinks a plough hit him. Told Kerry Roberts 10 mins he’s dead. Then hit by a plough. Then she said she dropped him off. That’s actually after Saying she was too drunk too remember. 🙄. First she she didn’t see him walk in. When the evidence of her car and John’s ovine her phone being out front for 8 to 10 mins she says oh I dropped him off and sat out front for 10 minutes texting and calling and actually saw him go in. So another lie. Phone data shows she didn’t make any calls out front of 34 Fairview or texts. She did the calls when racing to John’s. Lol. There’s 5 lies. There’s been double that since.
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  1621. Not all people are sheep like turtle neck. The facts are that she killed him. The nonsense of a frame is fairy tales
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  1622.  @lolabear3230 no it didn’t.
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  1623. You thick ?
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  1624.  @Deversrehomedmemory Are you old enough to be on YouTube 🥴. You know he wasn’t there. Stop smoking your turtle tobacco. Too much drinking pink conspiracy juice. Grow up kid. My daughter could beat him up, and you say he could beat John up 😅😅😅. Comedy. Karen said she didn’t think she hit John that hard. That’s a fact. Grow a brain. Or have the balls to find truth
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  1625.  @conniec3435 I’m a liar ? Don’t ever call me a liar. Use your logic Connie. 5;07am. Her taillight has a huge hole in it. Zoom it pause it. Therefore the cover up can not be. The damage was already done. No one on earth says my boyfriend is dead and a killer plow did him in. She was saying he’s a pervert. Now a plow kills him. He’s found in the snow an hour later ? Umm use logic. She should have helped him. Instead she saved herself from drink driving charges. That’s evil. He could have been saved.
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  1626.  @conniec3435 Nice person aren’t you. GPS doesn’t lie. It’s guilty for military purposes meaning war. HPS coordinates have John in the car. Next to Karen. 12:23 he puts 34 Fairview into his phone so it has Karen Turing around at the top of Fairview meaning she missed the turn. She turns down. 12:24am she is out front. John is there with her. She moves 3 times slowly forward. 12:31:56 he steps out as there’s moment right at this moment. She reversed and consistent with a pedestrian strike at 12:32:04. John doesn’t move after 12:32:08. He didn’t hit in the house. That’s proven. You listen to too many YouTubers instead of the evidence. Factually didn’t get in the house. He lay exactly where he is found from 12:32am to 6;15am. It’s not hard. You all avoid this. Karen hammered home or to John’s place. Takes his car out of his garage and slides hers in. You hear her psychotic footsteps at 12:42am when she butt dials. 12:46am. John where are you? Nobody knows where you are 🤔. Umm Karen knows where he is. Nobody else does. He hasn’t moved. He has microscopic taillight fragments in his vomit and top. Cannot be seen with the human eye. Only found when ready to be swabbed under a microscope. Karen 5am says John is dead. 5;15 am she is traveling near the body. What’s she doing? Only she can answer that. No doubt she is viewing the body. That’s why she knew exactly where it was at 6am. No car no person no neighbours no plow driver has seen John. Karen with her X-ray vision has though. This is my fault. I did this. I hit him I hit him. Omg I hit him. 6;23 she demands for Jen to look up how long to die. Proven by the person who builds the system. Greene the phone data goose apologises on the stand. He says sorry. 6;30 Karen’s father calls 911 and says Karen has threatened to kill herself. He says take her pills off her quickly. 6;35 Karen asks the ambulance personnel how long would it take to die without a coat. She says she isn’t looking after any kids. She then leaves hospital and says she’s fine. Picks up her car. Doesn’t ask what happened or say she left John at the house. She grabbed her bag probably deleted footage and scoots. Says she doesn’t know where her tail light got damaged. It happened last night. Says she didn’t see John go in the house. Police ask her for her phone and she deletes all she can. It takes months to get it open. She wouldn’t give the pass words to iCloud. So most of the data cannot be seen. Her attorney on her behalf says there was no criminal intent. Meaning she admitted it to yanetti. In text she says she didn’t hit him that hard. Fact. Not lie fact. Says she has a brain tumour. More lies from Karen. Guilty. Use your brains sparky.
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  1627. He is innocent and they have no proof that he was even there. Why is this even in court. Ridiculous
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  1628.  @Bubblegum1925-j5l no bubble head. You did.
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  1629. She’s guilty. The feds found zero conspiracy and nothing was close to be proven in court. They bombed out on all events. They lied. The defence lied. Karen lied.
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  1630.  @kristenpino4635 Yea seriously tough There’s no coming back. She’s Gawn. Hopefully for 30 plus. Evil twisted woman
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  1631. This court reporter is a little on the chicken side. He’s almost like a read tadpole fan. Facts are facts. She is a killer.
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  1632. What a pathetic excuse for a living being he is. Laughs at an innocent man begging for his life and to be a father of his 5 year old daughter. He could have robbed him with balaclavas which is still pathetic, but to listen to him beg for his life and then laugh afterwards in the car about it, is as low as it gets. Scumbags are everywhere and he’s one of the biggest I’ve ever seen or heard of.
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  1633. The daughters did.
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  1634. Free matt and hurry it up... no wonder the country is all over the joint. This doesn’t go to court in a well run country but the yanks like to nail anyone when they reckon he might have done it. What’s with your Justice system ?? You cannot convict a man with this plastic see through evidence.
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  1635.  @andywrollo2915 😅😅😂
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  1636.  @GrandWren23 every hole was swabbed. Didn’t you listen. Hank just told you and did lady. It’s hilarious that anyone thinks they are from a dog. You have tailight in the shirt but no DNA from a dog. Lol. It shouldn’t be hard. There’s a lot of stupid getting around isn’t there wren
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  1637.  @carlabannink1460 look if there was door cam showing this crime then we’d see it. The defence are making stuff up. Don’t you get it? They e made stuff up from the beginning. Google searches. Missing shoes never found. Missing belt. None human hair. The list goes on and on. It’s rubbish. Karen did it. Simple. From Australia
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  1638.  @joelletaylor8939 tailight.
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  1639.  @joelletaylor8939 You are watching weird shows with weird evidence they is as fake as Karen herself. It’s not even worth a comment. Other than to say lay off the conspiracy paste. You are spooning it out of the jar.
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  1640.  @joelletaylor8939 That’s not the brightest comment of the day. No hair. No canine DNA of which a canines mouth is 10 times the saturation of humans and 5 times primates. Also there’s no Bottom jaw bite there. So there’s more chance it was Scooby Doo with frosty the snowman. They look nothing like dog bites. I’ve trained pig hunting dogs. They are definitely nothing like dog bites. They are abrasive marks. Scratches. Looks more like tailight or glass. Drop the dog. It’s comedy.
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  1641.  @leximarie3808 The FBI found no cover up. They tried with everything they had to find a cover up. They didn’t. Not sure what part of that fact that seems to go over the top of you. They are facts. Not YouTubers or a defence team or fairy stories. Clearly the evidence showed John didn’t get to the house. Clearly he stopped moving seconds after her crazy reversal. Clearly her tail light is busted with a gaping hole at 5;07am. Clearly she was blaming ploughs and saying John was dead before he’s even found. Clearly she was cheating and clearly she’s a Nutter. Clearly she snaps like a biscuit. She snapped. Tried to hide it then was caught in the spotlight and then admitted it. In court too. Clearly guilty. The evidence is damning. Fairy stories don’t cut it. Google searches and false allegations are not evidence. Karen is the one and the only one. The psycho did it by herself. Not frosty the snowman.
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  1642.  @KarazolaYT Say what ? You kidding yourself miss? Kaylee testified in court. This was all known before trial. Do you make it up as you go ?
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  1643.  @KarazolaYT you didn’t see Kaylee testify. I know someone that was in that courtroom. Don’t be a fool. Pull your head in and stop fabricating things. Having go at children now ? You make me sick. What was said on the stand is in deposition from way back. This was all in writing over a year ago. Grow up.
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  1644. Also found taillight on the same day before Karen’s car was at the port. Case closed. It couldn’t have been planted now could it. Unless you believe in time travel. Karen had her car up until it was towed.
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  1645. She killed a man slowly. Then blamed anyone on 2 legs and even 4 legs. Psychopath fir sure. Karen read guilty.
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  1646.  @coolingwater9802 Yeah. Smart. I wouldn’t be giving up my phone. You will have your laundry shown to the world. That’s disgusting is it. Then what do you call getting viscous on your partner then hitting the gas right into him then leaving him to die slowly. Half way through you blame a plow for your actions. What’s that called? 🤔. I call it monstrous. Demon devil and deadly. There’s your Karen. You are whining about a phone when someone has been killed. Priority’s water
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  1647.  @carebear6763  care bear. Haha. It’s not steel you drip. Maybe speak to Scooby Doo. Ask him. 🤠 clown.
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  1648.  @Annaw1070 Set her up? Goldilocks and the 3 bears ? Yeah. Snoopy? Frosty the snowman ☃️ Karen admitted it on court. Google it. Actually it’s on YouTube. No criminal intent so her and yanetti are saying it’s an accident. My client has a brain tumour your honour 🤔 yeah sure thing. Turtle could put her away as he’s got inner details. You reckon turtle doesn’t know? Moneys to big right now. Conspiracy is big business. You’ll learn one day.
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  1649. A person who rapes and kills or just kills. They are all over America and have been for 50 years. Their motives are murder. They don’t know the victims. Sometimes it’s sexual sometimes it’s the thrill of the kill. Warped minds. It happens. Not saying it is in this case but yeah.
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  1650.  @jantregidgo How come many of you are still going on about dog scratches?? The dNA says no it wasn’t. You cannot clean scratches from DNA. Think about it. The defence have dropped that ridiculous theory now. Why do you think they dropped it? Now their theory is he didn’t die from a car. Hang on? Their defence has changed more than a traffic light in 3 hours. They are clutching at straws.
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  1651.  @1e2b9-  lol. She’s as pure as it gets. Truth will come out of her mouth. Unlike most who are speaking about this case. Arcca lol. Yeah they are legit. Jackson doesn’t lie to a jury 😅😅
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  1652.  @amyfromcali9051 Karen will not testify. She will be caught in too many lies Totally guilty
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  1653. Karen OJ Read is a drunken nut job. The witch may get away with killing her boyfriend because that’s the way the system works. Men should be very afraid.
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  1654. He dodged a bullet from Karen read. She was cheating on John with him or attempted to.
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  1655. I actually felt she let the defence get away with far too much. Allowing Hollywood into the courtroom and Cushing things because Jackson was having a fit.
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  1656. Is that rattled is it.. well I’d be rattled too if this disgraceful case was brought up to trial. What has the world come to ? Wtf are you doing in America?? What’s going on ?? The country has definitely lost the plot and this is just another case of this. The prosecution and detectives should be sentenced to a month of solitary for being a bunch of tunnel visioned pelicans that forage around with no evidence of anything. A donkey brain wouldn’t take this to trial but here we are. What a shambles. What a crock. Free Matt and hurry it up. 🙄🙄🙄
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  1657. The dog theory was squashed long ago.
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  1658.  @amyq6229 wait till the experts speak and they’ll explain it to you and the world
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  1659. She’s an evil narcissist. Karen makes me sick
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  1660.  @mariapilarme I’m Australian. We have all sorts here. We don’t murder like Americans though. We don’t carry guns which helps with that.
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  1661.  @banana_loaf1046 bird brain 🧠
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  1662. @BarbShenaniganskiShe was a turtle mumma. She had zero idea. Hasn’t worked for 30 years. Canine DNA wasn’t even in science yet. Look Barb, I know you want to believe and are probably very gullible. I’m not a follower. I form opinions off facts not defence teams. And hocus pocus. Karen is a killer whether you like it or not. Whether found guilty or not. She will always be a killer. Ask the lord about it.
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  1663. @BarbShenaniganskihe will not help you. Never has never will., I’d question if he has the almighty power that so many suggest, then why do innocent children have atrocious things done to them. I mean why do kids get bone cancer ? Is there a reason ? Rubbish. There is no almighty one.
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  1664. @BarbShenaniganskiI like animals. What’s the problem. I don’t like people who attack innocent people thats for sure. Too many Karen’s and turtles who either don’t think or don’t care.
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  1665. Only a moron would say that. Do you know anything about cars? Looks like you don’t. Best not to embarrass yourself. She was rambling about her tailught at 4;40am. The niece said that. That’s before 5:07 am
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  1666.  @junehanzawa5165 Spot on. Yep women are hard to read at the best of times, as you hear the joke men say, that if only they could read a woman’s mind. Being a male in his 50s and having many partners over the many years and also, once upon a time, being attracted to the wild crazy types, Karen for me is so easy to read. She is a Liar and you don’t need body language explaining for that. The evidence is there with 14 different stories. Selfishness , and that’s just reading text msgs from the day before. No empathy, and if you cannot see that you didn’t watch the trial. Narcissistic tendencies. Karen Read has the works plus some. There’s arrogance in spades. She could blame a country and not even sweat about it. The FBI found no frame job, yet this body language lady says they’re wrong 🙄 I can’t take them seriously. I turned off as soon as she said Karen was framed. Looking after her profile is my hunch. Like many, they aren’t gutsy enough to say it how it is.
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  1667.  @ruthwarde6057 Yes I did. Clearly guilty. A kid could tell you that. Unless you believe in time machines ? Evidence is overwhelming. John’s DNA inside the housing of Karen’s taillight. It’s a brand spanking new car. Think of that evidence alone. Think ? Brand new car, how’s John’s DNA there? Karen’s tail light busted with a gaping hole in it at 5;07 am. Zoom and pause. It’s easily done. Cuts the conspiracy dead right there. Unless you believe cops chased Karen at 12:32 to 12:36 am with a hammer and a bag 😂. Or maybe you believe in cops breaking into johns garage at 3am 🙄. John wasn’t even found yet. Common sense and logic. Unfortunately it’s rare these days. Karen blaming ploughs at 5am just after speaking with daddy as most 40 year olds do yeah. A plough ? Lol. Ok karen. 12;46am so 14 mins after her psycho reversal she leaves a voicemail saying where are you John? What do you mean Karen lol. Where are you ? Nobody knows where you are ? Haha. Didn’t she just drop him off ? She hasn’t contacted anyone else so why she’s saying nobody Knows where you are ? Yeah. She knows where he is. Nobody else does though. Use logic Every conspiracy was shot down in flames. The FBI found nothing. Do you think you tubers have? FBI haven’t but YouTubers have? Umm no. Shes 100% guilty A child could go through this case and tell you that.
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  1668. Wouldn’t you be if you were or your family or son were accused of something you had nothing to do with. Didn’t see any cover up. No one said she was angry with him. They said they noticed nothing different. The fact is she killed him. That is the facts. Looking elsewhere is fairytale stuff. Not sure if it’s the public just want that or what it is ? 4 different stories she has. Glass is in her bumper. It isn’t rocket science.
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  1669. There’s many warped people in our world. Why is it on many occasions that religious leaders or followers of them are into killing for no reason other than some fantasy ? How can people go to these depths of destruction against innocent people and innocent children ? Just why ? It’s sick.
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  1670. @ Karen’s a psychopathic killer. I’ll bet you 10 grand. They have the GPS. She’s gone back to John for 6 mins. 5;23 till 5;29 am. But you know that. She’s fried.
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  1671. Do you reckon jen did it lol. I think she’s absolutely fed up with this and more to the point. Karen read and her supporters. They know zero of the facts of the night or choose to ignore them. I’d be angry too.
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  1672. Haha. Drip feeding.
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  1673. I wouldn’t want a killer set free. Lock her up and throw away the key.
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  1674.  @Ars-022 crap
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  1675.  @gregbarbeau6191 so is yours.
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  1676. She’s a psychopath. Enjoying the show.
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  1677. Strange lot of peoples. Going to go to nature to talk. Especially in this case with mental illness in both parties. Something was always going to happen.
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  1678.  @Annaw1070 rubbish. Who told you that. Turtle haha. Melanie little brain? Lol. The only factual liar in this case so far is Karen. She lies during her interviews. Yanetti lied. Jackson tells stories for a living. Maybe ease of the conspiracy tv. That be at broke the law. Karen did when she killed a man. Get your hand off it You are full of drivel.
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  1679. And ? No dog was involved so how about the myth of a dog gets put aside. A kangaroo could have done it too 😂
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  1680.  @jenniferdokken8250 I have breed and trained dogs for 22 years and they are not even close to dog bites. Obviously that’s a myth that has spread wings. Also the fact that no dna is there is also something which people love to ignore. Do you know how much canine DNA is spread even if w dog touched you ? You might as well say a dinosaur did it. It’s a joke. Defence are putting up anything to save Karen read. Fact is she needs to be found guilty for what she did and what she continues to so. What sort of evil person hits her man then leaves him there to freeze. ? One that is a narcissist and that is Karen to a T. Imagine telling the girl that John virtually fathers, that he’s having a sleep over ? Is she behind the conspiracy too? She will testify to that. If John is having a sleep over then why the panic at 5:30 am calling Karen with Kaylee’s phone being crazy ? Wtf is she doing ? Why say you didn’t go to Fairview until you are caught in a lie ? The texts prove he wasn’t in the house and getting beaten up. Minutes later Karen’s car goes reverse at top speed. Seconds later John’s phone does not move. Just focus on facts no defence saying this or that. It’s quite simple. Karen caused the death of John. She could have saved his life after causing the whole thing but she decided to go home and deal out for hours working on what to do. When Karen sent the 2 ladies there in the car with her in the back, she sees a body when no one else can see anything. She says there’s John ? How on earth did she know that was John ? Common sense says she knew where he was all along. She was hoping he was still alive as her life was about to be changed forever. Karen’s story has 4 to 5 changes. Guilty. It isn’t rocket science. The rest it garbage.
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  1681.  @jenniferdokken8250 Say what ? I live in a land far away.
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  1682.  @michelletaylor4211 next it will be a goat.
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  1683. His truck was moving in that time. Unless he got a ghost to drive it then forget your theory.
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  1684.  @blakekaveny medical doesn’t have all evidence. DNA. Data. GPS. Grabbing all evidence she’s clearly a killer. Karen read guilty. Simple.
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  1685. Lol.
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  1686. Lol 😂
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  1687. GPS says no. You say yes? Hmmm it’s a hard choice. Haha.
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  1688.  @amireallythatgrumpy6508  John never entered the house. Whoever says he did is either making it up or is just plain stupid. One of the other. Maybe both. Haha.
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  1689.  @RonTDB Karen read had 6 butt dials that night. Why don’t you mention that too? Oh it doesn’t fit it for you. She factory reset . 2 phones.
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  1690.  @shirleyac12 lol her tailight is all over him. Guilty. 😊
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  1691.  @JS-pe7uc ask Karen. She asked how long with it a coat and seems to know everything. She may gone you 18 versions of it
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  1692.  @RonTDB butt dial. You talking turkey here or what. That evidence of ? What? Did you know Karen did 6 butt dials that morning ? First one was at 12:42 when you hear her psychotic footsteps. Remember that. A garage door goes down then her heels are hitting floor? 2 min butt dial. She has 5 others. Do that must be suspicious yes? Your theory haha. Maybe focus on evidence. But dials isn’t evidence
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  1693.  @RonTDB Ron. Why don’t you comment about Karen’s 6 nut dials. Why do you lot ignore them ? Carry on about witnesses but not the accused doing 6 lol. Do you comment the fact she factory reset 2 phones and wouldn’t give pass words. Do you know or comment on this? Lol
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  1694.  @davobmw No I just don’t like killers getting away with it. If a cops dirty then lock him up. Fact is the FBI have given the go ahead so that spells bad things for Read and her phoneys. Why all of a sudden are they dropping the dog theory ? Think about it? They know it’s a ridiculous theory. Did the dog wipe up the scene on his body and wear gloves 😂 be smarter
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  1695.  @Rossi4040 his shirt did. Pizza with Patrick at lunch. Didn’t you watch the trial ?
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  1696. Lol yeah right. Flat earth ?
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  1697. Her voice is equally as bad. They would give any man a migraine 😂. Shocking.
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  1698. Because they love a conspiracy and against police even better. She is guilty and hopefully she gets locked up for years.
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  1699. No idea.
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  1700. Who knows how drunk she was at the time. It matters little. More to the point how angry was she ? I reckon she drunk a lot more at home after being frantic on what just occurred. She was knocking them down and was hysterical at the scene. Again, I ask if she saw him walk in that door then why wasn’t she asking wtf happened and knocking on that door when he was dead or frozen out front? She didn’t say what happened. She says she hit him. The media are too scared to say what they really think. Ratings are important too. Don’t want backlash. She hit him and knew it. Then panicked and took off. Then in a drunken mess does the big act in front of people. Lock the evil woman up.
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  1701. Probably because the kids are about to testify and that was a lead up to an incident that the kids witnessed after the fact. I suppose we will get to know more about Karen behind closed doors. Also on what happened that night that John died and what Karen said and did.
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  1702. Yeah she done it at 6.20 am as you’ll see. That is when Killer Karen asked it to be searched. The defence have done the same with the dog theory. Just throw it up and hope ur sticks. The dog defence is dropped now or didn’t you know that? There’s a thing called DNA so that aaa a myth from the start. Now the man who set up this network or format will testify to exactly what time this search was done. So are people going to believe in her still when the facts come out against her? The fan club are a joke.
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  1703. Well the texts don’t lie and either does the video.
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  1704.  @ademarbenitezaranjo8299 lol. Sure she isn’t. 😅
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  1705.  @SlowAndHomesteady evidence clearly shows she’s guilty.
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  1706. No he didn’t. His killer had now. No idea why. She killed a man slowly. It’s Americans being stupid.
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  1707. Stay off the conspiracy juice. John didn’t go in any house. GPS coordinates prove that. It’s in evidence. Read it.
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  1708.  @brandysnaps9221 firstly no one of any house neighbours next door cars going by, no one came out. There was a blizzard. Sirens were off. We don’t know if people heard anything. Do they wake up when the plow man is roaring by all night? They were like 4 hours into a sleep. Cops did speak to the people in the house. They went Inside the front door too. So killers wouldn’t let cops walk in. Think logically. Cops don’t bask a bloke then plonk him on their front lawn to die slowly either. Keep in mind there’s kids there. There 3 teenage girls who are friends with their son. It’s his birthday. He has anxiety issues. It’s total rubbish. Though we can just look at GPS coordinates there are built for military purposes. Meaning war. John never went in that house. He stopped moving at the exact time Karen stopped reversing. Karen’s a killer. It’s a simple case.
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  1709.  @irongirl8007 Iron girl could not have said it any better. You are spot on in describing it. Hats off to iron lady. No Karen doesn’t drive a car, she gets around on her broomstick. Parks it in the broom rack outside court that’s set up for any local witches.
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  1710.  @Babyd320 dummy’s left right and centre. The human species are getting worse with every generation.
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  1711. Does he look the likely suspect? Yeah for sure but that doesn’t mean it’s sign sealed delivered he did this. Educated guess puts me at 85% he’s guilty. I’m afraid that might as well be zero as you don’t have to be 99% sure, it has to be 100% accurate. There’s too many question marks. The helmet the bike. Who’s DNA is this? They have to find out and eliminate that person. Suzanne was cheating as we know, and the only way we know this is her phone or and computer connected to this married man. Amazingly her best friend didn’t know about it. No one knew about it. Was she having an affair closer to home ? Just sexually ? We don’t know. Was she being stalked ? We don’t know. Yes things point toward the husband but if you cannot find a connection to the site of the remains with Barry or an accomplice than I’m not sure you can convict him in a court of law. There’s too many unanswered questions for mine. Unless they find more proper evidence and not just a bloke putting unknown garbage in bins than they will have zero chance. He was abusive is the theory. No injuries have been shown in her before she went missing. Let’s not pretend that there’s always one perfect partner and the other is a monster. If she was that scared of him, then how on earth did she go cheating with a married father of 6 ? She should have left before the cheating started of course. This case is going to last years unless they find toxicity in those bones that connect Barry or somehow he connects to this site.
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  1712. Amber heard kill somebody did she? Depp was equally as bad as Heard and in England that was proven. America is different. They protect their celebrities and if the fan base is huge then things get swayed. Through media and other sources.
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  1713.  @kristenstump8963 turtle probably throws up many things that are false. What you heard isn’t fact it’s rumour.
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  1714.  @jsmith1174 what if she didn’t ? What if the app was open at the time of the basketball search until the search hours later? How Do you type 2 things and search in nano seconds ? The 2:27 search wasn’t connected to an actual search. Explain that. If you can’t then maybe let’s wait for the expert who built it.
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  1715. Vinnies gone dark side for clicks. Looking at life after court tv. He’s a fraud
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  1716. Divorce is much better than cheating. Just leave. You want to cheat then go. Not sure why people cheat at all.
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  1717. He wasn’t at the site where her body was found.
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  1718. The liar the witch and her wardrobe
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  1719.  @GenZedsMother I think the Karen lovers are like flat earth people. Just weird. She’s a killer. That’s a fact.
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  1720. You do know Karen factory resets both her phones don’t you? She wouldn’t give them the pass word to her main phone either. Took them 7 months to get to the data. That’s Karen. Killer Karen
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  1721. Problem for Karen is that her car is there in reverse when John’s phone is there and it moves metres in those seconds then doesn’t move again. Explain that ?
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  1722. It means she had an accident of sorts at that address. She hit him. Then drove away like the snake she is. Then hours later once he’s frozen to death, she calls Roberts and says John is dead before hanging up. Who does that. Then found the body which is amazing unless she has x ray vision.
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  1723. That’s hilarious
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  1724. Who told you that ? Tadpole boy.
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  1725. No proof. That’s a defence theory and tv conspiracy shows. No evidence at all. Made up fairy stories. Karen is the cold ice women.
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  1726. Haha Vinnie says with the Karen read defence I could put the dots together. What a ridiculously dumb comment. What fits Vinnie. Tinker bell throwing the dot to Goldilocks the passing it over to Peter Pan. Vinnie has lost the plot in recent times. Eating cold and raw conspiracy for breakfast Vin. What a Drop kick.
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  1727.  @ronelle409 she didn’t cry. No tears. No one saw tears. She pulled his top up and smothered him. Lunatic. Probably trying to finish him. She said it’s her fault. She says I did this. I hit him. No criminal intent your honour. I’ve got a brain tumour too. Lying birch. Narcissistic psychopath. Her interviews give to come in. She puts her mouth on it. Great. .
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  1728.  @ronelle409 haha. Spoon fed
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  1729.  @MarkG-h2y she said it in interviews. Did I tag his knee ? Did I clip him and on his drunkenness he collapsed. He didn’t look mortally. wounded Haha. Read the last sentence again. Guilty. She’s a fruit loop. Psychopath. Killer. Guilty
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  1730. Did that woman just say that she Michelle was dumping rubbish into bins ? She said she was helping dump rubbish into bins. I must have missed that because all I saw was her in a car passenger seat take chewing him out of her mouth. Last I knew, doing that isn’t a crime and never was. Many people have done that and if the chewing gum is stuck to your finger then you wipe it anywhere you can. To prove she knew the crime of murder was in the bags is guesswork. Again she is not seen putting rubbish into bins. Well I haven’t seen it yet. Is there vision of this ? Even if there was. What does it prove.
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  1731.  @LadyLuck13 from the free Karen’s. Lol.
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  1732.  @MarkG-h2y guilty. Snake family. Spoilt brat Karen. Bad breeding.
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  1733. Ashley straight out killed hm. Her Greta Garbo acting exhibition doesn’t fool me. Shot him from behind and the side. Set him up to purposefully shoot him to kill him. Her beauty and innocent look should not be taken into account. Plus the fact this is a female . Lock her up.
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  1734.  @GPDogDrool it’s not a crime the other way either. That’s my point
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  1735. @ bribes lol. Nice story telling
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  1736.  @John-kv7jo  What motive does serial killer or a stranger killing have? They’d motive can be as simple as, they just wanted to kill. Killing or murder was a motive. You’ve got to rule all that out. As it is, it’s definitely not ruled out. Unknown DNA everywhere in this case. No proof he went to this sites where her remains were found. No proof of hat he sent someone there to do his dirty work. They didn’t even have any evidence from those bins. I’m sure they checked them. Motive ? It can be many things to many killers. It could be sexual. It could be rage. It could well be the husband. It could also be someone we have no idea about. Motive is just one of many things.
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  1737.  @robinlanier6886  Maybe ? Or maybe a killer was in waiting close by. I have no idea why a man would want a woman who cheats anyway. Also vice versa. Once they cheat they can never change that.
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  1738. Yeah nothing. It’s heat say. There’s a pool below them.
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  1739.  @notsorryyouretriggered you still kicking. This is just the beginning for the whack job.
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