Comments by "" (@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684) on "Drachinifel"
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@dovetonsturdee7033 I was aware of US officers being onboard, but not of his convening of a "war council", but that still reinforces my impression of Capt Dalrymple-Hamilton. A highly regarded RN captain of a high profile capital ship in a desperate situation being cool headed & not too haughty to be able to convene a "council of juniors" and take account of their advice, while he alone, as a captain usually does carried, the sole responsibility.
My perception of Lancelot Holland is not quite so favourable.... I realise he and Hood were on the receiving end of extremely bad luck, but in all my reading of the accounts of the Bismarck saga, I've formed a vague impression that he was more autocratic, with possibly a hint of arrogance? Maybe I'm wrong, I know you'll have much more information to fill out my understanding of the man.
I'd be more than happy to hear your own appraisal of Holland, Doveton.
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@PhilipLeitch Wouldn't it be logical Philip that those Titanic passengers who survived to give evidence were obivously not subject to localised down currents, what about the +1500 dead Titanic passengers? While obviously a large number of them died due to hypothermia, who knows how many died due to other causes?
Why did you ignore Ted Briggs' account of his leaving the wreck of the Hood? Actually spoken by him? How do you explain that? Was the man a liar?
Look, Philip, the crux of the matter is you're making a unsubstantiated blanket statement that it can NEVER happen, as in you have utterly no conclusive evidence. I am saying that while it will not happen in every situation, there are enough first hand accounts of the phenomena to show that it might very well happen.
I'll happily take the word of people who've demonstrably experienced the phenomena over self appointed "online experts", with no scientific background, but only too eager to jump on any "bandwagon meme" that they come across while surfing. You don't believe the world is flat as well do you?
We both know I'm right, be a man and say, "yes, your point is correct".
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Prinz Eugen, which fired HE shells throughout the engagement, had NO potential to destroy Hood, though she did start a fire on Hood's boat deck.
"Beating the hell out of PoW".... you mean a total of SEVEN hits on PoW, NONE of which did serious damage.... so much so that after PoW had withdrawn due to the ongoing problems with her main armaments, she was, within 25 minutes of withdrawing from the engagement, once again shadowing Bismarck at full speed, and engaged in a further TWO exchanges of fire with Bismarck before being forced to make for Iceland due to shortage of fuel.
"Hood was never going to survive"?
Hood top speed = 32 knots (although in 1941 probably nearer to 30 knots)
Bismarck top speed = 30 knots
Hood main armament = 8 x 15in
Bismarck main armament = 8 x 15in
Bismarck belt armour = 12.6 inches
Hood belt armour = 12 inches (Though angled so as to give 13 inches of protection).
Bismarck armoured deck = 3.75 inches
Hood armoured deck = 3 inches
There was every expectation that Hood would "give as good as she took" prior to the engagement. Hood's vertical armour was well upto the average standard of contemporary battleships, her weakest aspect was her horizontal deck armour, but Holland had raced to close on Bismarck and had escaped the "danger zone" of plunging fire, only to be then hit by a million to one shot that found an obscure "Achilles heel" in her vertical armour.
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