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I thought I'd create a simple "visual aid" in order to assist people learning about the history of the battle of Britain. There is much ongoing debate about the nationalities and proportions of RAF fighter pilots who took part in the battle, with occasionally a furtive aspect which attempts to portray the battle as a victory of "mostly foreign pilots". Below is a graphical representation of the proportion of pilot nationalities serving within RAF Fighter Command during the summer of 1940.
Each flag is roughly equivalent to 30 pilots, The numbers after each nation are the ACTUAL number of aircrew from that country, and the approximate percentage of RAF Fighter Command's establishment in the summer of 1940 that they represented.
The figures are taken from the RAF records of the awards of the highly coveted "Battle of Britain clasp" to the British 1939-45 Campaign Star. Which was SCRUPULOUSLY only awarded to RAF & Fleet Air Arm aircrew who flew at least one active sortie in the UK in any RAF fighter aircraft between 10th July 1940 and 31st Oct 1940.
π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§ UK (2342) (80%)
π΅π±π΅π±π΅π±π΅π±π΅π± Poland (145) (5%)
π³πΏπ³πΏπ³πΏπ³πΏ New Zealand (127) (4%)
π¨π¦π¨π¦π¨π¦π¨π¦ Canada (112) (4%) (1940 flag emoji not available)
π¨πΏπ¨πΏπ¨πΏ Czechoslovakia (88) (3%)
π¦πΊ Australia (32) (1%)
π§πͺ Belgium (28) (1%)
πΏπ¦ S. Africa (25) (1%) (1940 flag emoji not available)
πΊπ³ Other nations (France (13), R o Ireland (10), USA (9), Rhodesia (3), Newfoundland (1), Jamaica (1), Barbados (1)) (1%)
(And just to preempt any wandering idiot lefty "Identity warriors" from protesting about "The lack of credit given to the black pilots who fought in the battle of Britain"... the pilots from South Africa, Rhodesia & the Caribbean were all of white descent).
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Β @virginiawolf6431Β What is it with clueless modern day Poles? They seem to have utterly NO idea that ultimately modern day Poland OWES its ENTIRE current existence to the British Empire ALONE.
What do they imagine would have happened to Poland if Britain and France did as the ENTIRE rest of the world did in Sept 1939 and completely IGNORED the nazi / soviet dismemberment of Poland? Or if the isolated British Isles had instead decided to seek an armistice with the nazis after the fall of France in 1940? Do you all stupidly believe that you would liberate yourselves from nazi tyranny? Dream on.
Let me tell you what would have happened in reality. Today Poland would not exist. It would simply be a footnote in modern history books, a former nation that would now be divided between nazi East Prussia and the "General Government" region of the nazi Empire. The former Polish cities would now be "Germanised" and each would STILL today have swastikas flying above them, and most chillingly of all, the likes of Sobibor, Chelmno, Belzec, Treblinka, Majdanek & Auschwitz would STILL be operating and belching human ashes into formerly Polish skies.
Please give over with the almost CONSTANT insults at the UK, the nation that made a sacrifice of 460,000 of it's OWN citizen's lives, which ENTIRELY bankrupted itself, and which financed the Polish war effort in the west with UK tax payer's money, and due to those ruinous costs also lost its empire, ALL in the selfless effort to prevent a nazi domination of Europe, and saving YOUR Polish asses from extinction.
Sincerest best wishes to all intelligent, decent Poles who understand the reality of the situation in WW2 from us in the UK. To all the idiot Polish commenters please leave your messages of thanks & gratitude to your British saviours below.
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There were NO operational "Indian" pilots in RAF Fighter Command during the battle of Britain.
I thought I'd create a simple "visual aid" in order to assist people learning about the history of the battle of Britain. There is much ongoing debate about the nationalities and proportions of RAF fighter pilots who took part in the battle, with occasionally a furtive aspect which attempts to portray the battle as a victory of "mostly foreign pilots". Below is a graphical representation of the proportion of pilot nationalities serving within RAF Fighter Command during the summer of 1940.
Each flag is roughly equivalent to 30 pilots, The numbers after each nation are the ACTUAL number of aircrew from that country, and the approximate percentage of RAF Fighter Command's establishment in the summer of 1940 that they represented.
The figures are taken from the RAF records of the awards of the highly coveted "Battle of Britain clasp" to the British 1939-45 Campaign Star. Which was SCRUPULOUSLY only awarded to RAF & Fleet Air Arm aircrew who flew at least one active sortie in the UK in any RAF or Fleet Air Arm fighter aircraft between 10th July 1940 and 31st Oct 1940.
π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§ UK (2342) (80%)
π΅π±π΅π±π΅π±π΅π±π΅π± Poland (145) (5%)
π³πΏπ³πΏπ³πΏπ³πΏ New Zealand (127) (4%)
π¨π¦π¨π¦π¨π¦π¨π¦ Canada (112) (4%) (1940 flag emoji not available)
π¨πΏπ¨πΏπ¨πΏ Czechoslovakia (88) (3%)
π¦πΊ Australia (32) (1%)
π§πͺ Belgium (28) (1%)
πΏπ¦ S. Africa (25) (1%) (1940 flag emoji not available)
πΊπ³ Other nations (France (13), R o Ireland (10), USA (9), Rhodesia (3), Newfoundland (1), Jamaica (1), Barbados (1)) (1%)
(And just to preempt any wandering idiot lefty "Identity warriors" from protesting about "The lack of credit given to the black pilots who fought in the battle of Britain"... the pilots from South Africa, Rhodesia & the Caribbean were all of white descent).
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I thought I'd create a simple "visual aid" in order to assist people learning about the history of the battle of Britain. There is much ongoing debate about the nationalities and proportions of RAF fighter pilots who took part in the battle, with occasionally a furtive aspect which attempts to portray the battle as a victory of "mostly foreign pilots". Below is a graphical representation of the proportion of pilot nationalities serving within RAF Fighter Command during the summer of 1940.
Each flag is roughly equivalent to 30 pilots, The numbers after each nation are the ACTUAL number of aircrew from that country, and the approximate percentage of RAF Fighter Command's establishment in the summer of 1940 that they represented.
The figures are taken from the RAF records of the awards of the highly coveted "Battle of Britain clasp" to the British 1939-45 Campaign Star. Which was SCRUPULOUSLY only awarded to RAF & Fleet Air Arm aircrew who flew at least one active sortie in the UK in any RAF or Fleet Air Arm fighter aircraft between 10th July 1940 and 31st Oct 1940.
π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§π¬π§ UK (2342) (80%)
π΅π±π΅π±π΅π±π΅π±π΅π± Poland (145) (5%)
π³πΏπ³πΏπ³πΏπ³πΏ New Zealand (127) (4%)
π¨π¦π¨π¦π¨π¦π¨π¦ Canada (112) (4%) (1940 flag emoji not available)
π¨πΏπ¨πΏπ¨πΏ Czechoslovakia (88) (3%)
π¦πΊ Australia (32) (1%)
π§πͺ Belgium (28) (1%)
πΏπ¦ S. Africa (25) (1%) (1940 flag emoji not available)
πΊπ³ Other nations (France (13), R o Ireland (10), USA (9), Rhodesia (3), Newfoundland (1), Jamaica (1), Barbados (1)) (1%)
(And just to preempt any wandering idiot lefty "Identity warriors" from protesting about "The lack of credit given to the black pilots who fought in the battle of Britain"... the pilots from South Africa, Rhodesia & the Caribbean were all of white descent).
Top 10 scoring RAF Fighter Command Sdqs during the battle of Britain.
1st - 603 (City of Edinburgh) Sqd (Spitfire) - 57Β½ confirmed kills.
2nd - 609 (West Riding) Sqd (Spitfire) - 51Β½ confirmed kills.
3rd - 303 (KoΕciuszko) Sqd (Hurricane) - 45 confirmed kills.
4th - 41 Sqd (Spitifre) - 44ΒΎ confirmed kills.
5th - 501 (County of Gloucester) Sqd (Hurricane) - 40Β½ confirmed kills.
6th - 92 (East India) Sqd (Spitfire) - 40.2 confirmed kills.
7th - 602 (City of Glasgow) Sqd (Spitfire) - 36 confirmed kills.
7th - 54 Sqd (Spitfire) - 36 confirmed kills.
9th - 43 (The Fighting Cocks) Sqd (Hurricane) - 35.2 confirmed kills.
10th- 601 (County of London) Sqd (Hurricane) - 35 confirmed kills.
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Β @virginiawolf6431Β What is it with clueless modern day commenters? They seem to have utterly NO idea that modern day Poland OWES its ENTIRE current existence to the British Empire ALONE.
What do they imagine would have happened to Poland if Britain and France did as the ENTIRE rest of the world did in Sept 1939 and completely IGNORED the nazi / soviet dismemberment of Poland? Or if the isolated British Isles had instead decided to seek an armistice with the nazis after the fall of France in 1940? Do you all stupidly believe that they would liberate themselves from nazi tyranny? Dream on.
Let me tell you what would have happened in reality. Today Poland would not exist. It would simply be a footnote in modern history books, a former nation that would now be divided between nazi East Prussia and the "General Government" region of the nazi Empire. The former Polish cities would now be "Germanised" and each would STILL today have swastikas flying above them, and most chillingly of all, the likes of Sobibor, Chelmno, Belzec, Treblinka, Majdanek & Auschwitz would STILL be operating and belching human ashes into formerly Polish skies.
Please give over with the almost CONSTANT insults at the UK, the nation that made a sacrifice of 460,000 of it's OWN citizen's lives, which ENTIRELY bankrupted itself, and which financed the Polish war effort in the west with UK tax payer's money, and due to those ruinous costs also lost its empire, ALL in the selfless effort to prevent a nazi domination of Europe, and saving Polish asses from extinction.
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Β @MarkHarrison733Β You know that even your hero Hitler thinks you're talking ABSOLUTE bollocks Mark !!!
I only need to provide a SINGLE piece of verifiable information to prove my point. What better than the order issued by none other the Adolf Hitler himself? Below I've "copy and pasted" the preamble to Hitler's "Fuhrerbefehl No. 16" (Fuhrer Directive 16) issued from the "Berghof" (Hitler's "holiday home" in Bavaria) on 16th July 1940 to the German armed forces high command (OKW).
The directive was transmitted over secure landlines encrypted in what the Germans believed was an unbreakable code, showing that it was NOT for the digest of the British and simply designed to initmidate them into coming to the surrender table, but was a true indication of Hitler's intent.
"The Fuhrer And Supreme Commander Of The Armed Forces.
The Fuhrer's Headquarters. 16th July, 1940. 7 copies
Directive No. 16 -- On Preparations For A Landing Operation Against England
Since England, in spite of her hopeless military situation, shows no signs of being ready to come to an understanding, I have decided to prepare a landing operation against England, and, if necessary, to carry it out.
The aim of this operation will be to eliminate the English homeland as a base for the prosecution of the war against Germany and, if necessary, to occupy it completely."
But as we both know the first phase of the operation, that being the battle of Britain, was smashed, meaning the rest of the plan was academic. The operation had been stopped in its first phase. What would be described in common parlance as "A resounding British victory".
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