Comments by "" (@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684) on "Why didn't the Allies declare war on the USSR when they invaded Poland?" video.

  1. "Why didn't the Allies declare war on the USSR when they invaded Poland?" Because they weren't stupid.
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  2. As Scotland did not have a devolved parliament after WW2 it did as the UK parliament told it to.... but dont worry the UK as a whole looked after ALL of the stateless Poles that fought alongside us in the west. Go and have a read of the 1947 UK Polish resettlement act. The act of the UK parliament that saved nearly 300,000 Polish ex-service personnel and their families from soviet brutality in Poland after WW2.
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  3. Nonsense. The nazis were the clear and present danger to western europe. in 1939. You just wanted to be a guard in a nazi death camp somewhere in the UK in 1940.
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  4. Do you naively believe that countries maintain ruinously expensive standing armies, ready at a moments notice to spring into action anywhere in the world? Britain and France reacted as quickly as they could to mobilise their armies to the surprise assault on Poland on 1st Sept 1939. The British Royal Navy IMMEDIATELY instigated the "North sea blockade" that had effectively strangled Germany out of WW1. The RAF did not have the range to attack nazi forces in Poland and refused to bomb the German mainland as they did not want to spread the war but contain Germany. Though they did IMMEDIATELY attack German naval units at sea. The British army IMMEDIATELY initiated the transfer of its regular army units to France as the BEF (British Expeditionary Force). By Dec 1939 it had just 3 full strength divisions ready in France. It took till April 1940 for us to asemble 10 full divisions and 3 reserve divisions on the borders of Belgium. Poland collapsed after 5 weeks. The French army, which was by FAR the largest of the two nations, bungled its own mobilisation. It conscripted so many of its population that it crippled its own economy, and had to release countless thousands of soldiers to man her factories again. But remember this..... if it hadn't been for the British & French declaration of war in 1939, regardless of their inability to give meaningful support to Poland in its "hour of need", or if the UK had surrendered in june 1940 after the collapse of France (as the ENTIRE world expected us to) then Poland would have remained under nazi domination for DECADES. Remember that apart from Britain and France (who between them collectively squandered 1.1 million of their own citizen's lives, bankrupted themselves as nations, and ended up losing their empires) absolutely NO ONE ELSE in the so called "international community" raised a finger or cared whether Poland existed or not in 1939. Without the continued opposition of the British empire to nazism from June 1940 onwards, opposition which bankrupted the UK and cost her 460,000 of her citizen's lives, there would have been: NO D-Day and war in the Meditteranean to draw sizeable wehrmacht resources from the war on the Eastern Front. NO strategic bombing of German cities and war industries. NO interdiction of German global sea trade by the Royal Navy. NO massive supply of weapons and war materiel from the west to the USSR, once their former allies nazi Germany had turned on them. NO utterly crucial strategic intelligence courtesy of Britain's (not Poland's before you say it) "ULTRA" program. With the result that the USSR would have collapsed somewhere in 1942/43, leaving the nazis in control of the whole of Europe, and their extermination camps still operating on Polish soil into the 1950s, 60s, or even 70s.
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  5.  @volvo1354  What has "proper" got to do with anything? Why would anyone declare war on a nation that they had NO practical way of attacking. A nation of IMMENSE resources, which had made a temporary peace with its number 1 sworn enemy. The foolish, clueless kids on here would declare war against the USSR, and in doing so drive the world's largest resource pool into a solid pact with the world's number 1 military power in 1939. No FAR more effective to declare war on one, drive a wedge between them and let the situation simmer, awaiting the inevitable conflict between the nazis and the USSR, letting their "friendship" come to the boil as it did on 22nd June 1941.
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  6. Where do you get that bollocks that the west "sold" Poland to the communists? What profit did they receive from this supposed "sale" exactly? That is apart from having to house and feed hundreds of thousands of Polish ex-pats who were given UK citizenship after WW2. The Soviet Union "liberated" Poland from the nazis at the cost of several million soviet lives. They already HAD possession of Poland, no "handing over" or "sale" was necessary. Its such a crying shame that you legions of clueless modern whingers were not personally there on the front line in central Europe in the summer of 1945 eager to sacrifice YOUR lives to push the 13 million strong soviet steamroller back to its pre 1939 borders, instead of whinging that millions of OTHER people didn't sacrifice THEIR lives to do so, all from the safety of your keyboards 80 years after the events.
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  7. Please explain how Poland was "handed over" to the USSR, seeing as the USSR had "liberated" Poland in late 1944 and had 8-10 million troops stationed there in 1945?
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  8. Now go and polish you hitler youth dagger before bedtime... you've got school in the morning.
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  9. If only you had been there to sort it all out !!!
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  10.  @richardj9016  Very concise précis Richard, Bravo !!!
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  11. Because they were smart, unlike a sizeable proportion of commenters in this thread. Why would anyone declare war on a nation that they had NO practical way of attacking. A nation of IMMENSE resources, which had made a temporary peace with its number 1 sworn enemy. The foolish, clueless kids on here would declare war against the USSR, and in doing so drive the world's largest resource pool into a solid pact with the world's number 1 military power in 1939. No FAR more effective to declare war on one, drive a wedge between them and let the situation simmer, awaiting the inevitable conflict between the nazis and the USSR, letting their "friendship" come to the boil as it did on 22nd June 1941. Good job the half wits in these comments had no effect on the decisions made in 1939.
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  12. Errr.... But they DID declare war "on their own people".....
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  13. "the invasion of France on 25 november of 1940" ?????
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  14. The USSR was also 2 entire nations away from France and Britain.... the nazis (who rest assured had already been murdering its own internal opponents by the truckload since 1933) was on the doorstep.
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  15. WTF is it with this "Starling"? FFS
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  16. "Saved EU from russian serfs".... How? By acting as a sandbag?
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  17.  @G0olag  I know the history. Is English not your first language? I'll rephrase my original question. How was "Poland handed over in 1945" when the USSR ALREADY HAD FULL POSSESSION OF POLAND BY THE END OF 1944 and had 8-10million troops there? In case you have trouble with English comprehension I'll answer the question for you.... NO "HANDING OVER" OF POLAND WAS NECESSARY BECAUSE THE USSR ALREADY HAD FULL POSSESSION OF POLAND BY THE END OF 1944. At the end of ww2 the chips lay where they fell, enough blood had been spilled on Poland's behalf already. You ended up with a FAR lesser evil, unless you can tell me about the millions of poles slaughtered by the soviets since WW2 (don't bother because they weren't). Just think Britain & France could have done like the ENTIRE rest of the world did in 1939 and simply have ignored the German invasion of Poland. What do you imagine would have happened then? Let me tell you Today Poland would not exist. It would simply be a footnote in world history books... never to be seen again, with swastikas STILL TO THIS DAY flying over now Germanised former Polish cities, now situated in Prussia and the "General Government" of the nazi empire... together with nazi death camps STILL spewing human ashes into former Polish skies. Move on... the rest of Europe is BORED with incessant Polish bitching. Count yourselves lucky.
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  18. We let YOU look like a fool on our behalf.
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  19. Here Here Jim.
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  20. I've previously had two accounts blocked for asking completely reasonable and polite questions about communism and its bastard child globalism that is currently infecting the planet.
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  21. "Gassing anyone who doesn't agree with us" Nazis 1933-45.
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  22. Ah...."defending ethnic Belarusians and Ukrainians" by invading Poland. There's one born every minute isn't there? Such a pity young dupes like you never actually lived under communist tyranny.
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  23.  @hussar843  So you like "A fish called Wanda" do you? Good film.
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  24. Polish ingrates are thick in here.......
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  25.  @glowiak3430  Your ignorqance (and ingratitude) are ASTOUNDING. Just remember that if it hadn't been for the British & French declaration of war in 1939, regardless of their inability to give meaningful support to Poland in its "hour of need", or if the UK had surrendered in june 1940 after the collapse of France (as the ENTIRE world expected us to) then Poland would have remained under nazi domination for DECADES. Remember that apart from Britain and France (who between them collectively squandered 1.1 million of their own citizen's lives, as well as both bankrupting themselves as nations) absolutely NO ONE in the so called "international community" raised a finger or cared whether Poland existed or not in 1939. Without the continued opposition of the British empire to nazism from June 1940 onwards, there would have been: NO D-Day and war in the Meditteranean to draw sizeable wehrmacht resources from the war on the Eastern Front. NO strategic bombing of German cities and war industries. NO interdiction of German global sea trade by the Royal Navy. NO massive supply of weapons and war materiel from the west to the USSR, once their former allies nazi Germany had turned on them. NO utterly crucial strategic intelligence courtesy of Britain's (not Poland's before you say it) "ULTRA" program. With the result that the USSR would have collapsed somewhere in 1942/43, leaving the nazis in control of the whole of Europe, and their extermination camps still operating on Polish soil into the 1950s, 60s, or even 70s. For those Ignorant modern day Poles, on your way out, please remember to kneel at the altar dedicated to the combined 1.1 million lives sacrificed by the UK and France in order to topple the nazism that was murdering and torturing YOUR country when NOBODY else cared whether you lived or died. Hearing the likes of you in these comments makes some of us here in the UK wonder if we'd have been better off to leave the nazis to murder some more of you, as there was NO way on earth you were EVER going to liberate yourselves. Think of all those British and French lives we could have saved, as well as not bankrupting OUR countries on YOUR behalf.
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  26.  @glowiak3430  The truth is you're full of BS and without the British, the Germans would have been murdering Poles into the 1950s.60s & maybe 70s. Hearing the nonsense of Polish ingrates such as yourself leaves us to wonder why we bothered, maybe we should have left you to the nazis, as there was NO way you were EVER going to liberate yourselves.
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  27.  @glowiak3430  AN ingrate who totally ignores the FACTS I've clearly stated above.
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  28.  @glowiak3430  What FACTS have you provided? Apart from highlighting the fact you know nothing about history?
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  29.  @glowiak3430  Re-read the comments above... plenty there for you to be getting along with.
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  30.  @glowiak3430  As I said from the start, a clueless Polish ingrate.
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  31. I'd get your historical glasses prescription checked.
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  32. Much as many nations have invaded others since the beginning of human civilisation. Or do you think it all began with Britain? Not very bright are you?
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  33. And you can't work it out for yourself after all that time? If you were told you STILL wouldn't understand. You can't educate lead into gold.
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