Comments by "" (@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684) on "Daily Express" channel.

It's SO bloody easy to make a casual misjudgement and over reach your endurance. A few years back I was on holiday in Portugal. We were on the beach at Praia de Falesia under a hired sunshade for the afternoon. Bit of swimming.... bit of sunbathing... but not being as much of a sun worshipper as my wife, I decided to go for a walk along the beach as there was a light breeze on a warm day.... it was beautiful, and I hadn't a care in the world. I'd walked for just over an hour in the direction of Faro with the sun behind me, when I thought, I'd best turn back. As soon as I turned around and walked for a minute I realised that the sun was BLISTERINGLY hot, inspite of my sun hat and light summer clothing, and I'd absentmindedly already drank two thirds of my bottled water, and there was a stretch of beach ahead of me, probably no more than a mile and a half where there was nobody in sight and no facilities that I then had to traverse. I'm NOT stupid, I'm a resourceful, strapping six footer, I've served a full 30 years as an inner city frontline fireman and KNOW the symptoms of heat stress, syncope & stroke, but despite all my experience & awareness of the dangers I very quickly realised I had stupidly landed myself in DEEP trouble, but suffice to say I eventually made it back to where my wife was starting to worry about me, and when she saw me she knew that I'd taken a beating off the sun.... even through my hat the skin of my forehead was blistered and had started to bleed, I had stopped sweating (a SURE sign of heat stroke) and I was, according to her, more than a little "incoherent". If I had not been on a beach where I knew that I HAD to determinedly follow the waterline to return to my starting point, and instead been on a featureless, rocky, barren landscape such as that that Michael appears to have inadvertantly stumbled into and traversed then I think I too would have succumbed the same way that he and many others over the years have sadly done. Its how a beautiful sunny day with family can unexpectedly slip into a fatal tragedy.....all because of a simple misjudgement. It is SO easy to underestimate the conditions, overestimate your own endurance, and if you have no awareness of the onset of the symptoms of heat stroke, then confusion and disorientation strikes and your thinking and judgement processes VERY quickly become badly impaired. It appears to me that is EXACTLY what has happened to the unfortunate Mr Mosley. It does surprise me somewhat that with his apparently deep understanding of the human body & it's inner workings that he was not more self aware of the danger he was stumbling into. Deepest sympathy and condolences to Michael's family.
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One of the positives I've taken after reading so many inane and disrespectful comments in these threads is the number of very decent Greek citizens passing on their heartfelt condoloences. Best wishes to both you & your beautiful country, from the UK.
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@unbearifiedbear1885 Guess what? Different people perceive things differently. If it gives his widow some comfort, why feel the need to question it?
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Try repeating the route he took in the conditions he experienced and it may give you a better understanding.
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He knew where he was intending to go.... but underestimation of the conditions and overestimating his endurance would obviously lead him into heat stroke induced disorientation. If you've never suffered from it, heat syncope & stroke creep on you unseen, unless you know the symptoms to look out for. Though I agree I am surprised that a doctor known for his interest in human biology and systems would not be self aware of the onset of heat stroke.
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Where his body was found was literally FEET away from the only habitation on the headland where he had become disorientated & lost.
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How do you know he had no water? Also why would he be protecting himself with an umbrella? You've obviously never experienced heat stroke or syncope.
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Well said fanta... too many juveniles and low intelligence types commenting disrespectfully.
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Terribly sad news, Deepest sympathy for Michael's family. It's SO bloody easy to make a casual misjudgement, over reach your endurance and inadvertently stumble into a very dangerous situation. A few years back I was on holiday in Portugal. We were on the beach at Praia de Falecia under a hired sunshade for the afternoon. Bit of swimming.... bit of sunbathing... and I thought I'll go for a walk along the beach as there was a light breeze on a warm day.... it was beautiful. I'd walked for just over an hour in the direction of Faro with the sun behind me, when I though, I'd best turn back. As soon as I turned around and walked for a minute I realised that the sun was blisteringly hot, inspite of my sun hat and light summer clothing, I'd drank two thirds of my water, and there was a stretch of beach probably a mile and a half where there was nobody and no facilities that I then had to traverse. I'm NOT stupid, I've been a serving frontline fireman for 30 years and KNOW the symptoms of heat syncope & stress, and I very quickly realised I was in trouble, but suffice to say I made it back to where my wife was starting to worry about me, and when she saw me she knew that I'd taken a beating off the sun.... even though my hat the skin of my forehead had blistered and has started to bleed. If I had not been on a beach where I had only to determinedly follow the waterline to return to my starting point, and instead been on a featureless landscape such as that that Michael appears to have traversed then I think I may well have succumbed the same way that Michael and many others have sadly done. How a beautiful sunny day with family can unexpectedly slip into a fatal tragedy. It is SO easy to underestimate the conditions, overestimate your own endurance, and if you have no awareness of the symptoms of the onset of heat stroke, then your thinking and judgement processes VERY quickly become impaired. I can see that is EXACTLY what has happened to unfortunate Mr Mosley. It does surprise me somewhat that with his apparently deep understanding of the human body that he was not more self aware of the danger he had stumbled into. Just to have stopped for a drink at one of the cafes at Pedi.... a sad loss of such a positive force in the world. Once again, deepest sympathy for Michael's Family.
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Why do SO many un or mis informed people THINK they know that Mr Mosley "had no water" "had no hat" (but was instead shown to be using an umbrella that covered his ears and shoulders as well as his head), and that he "hadn't told his wife where he was going"? I wish more people knew the old phrase, better to keep quiet and be thought stupid than to talk complete BS and remove all doubt !!!
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Could you please point us to the conclusive evidence that Mr Mosley was "without water" or "sensible attire"... please don't respond with "it's been reported".
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Of course you don't Judy.
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@John-k6f9k Dear oh dear.... what a deformed personality you display. Take some friendly advice, You REALLY need to get away from the internet more often.
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Has the national average IQ dropped by 30 or 40 points over the last few years? "He nearly made it" and people cannot understand the context of that comment? In a confused and disorientated state Dr Mosley has blundered into an isolated, barren and very testing environment in scorching heat. He then headed for the only habitation he could see in the distance, and managed to reach the fence of that refuge before he succumbed to heat stroke and dehydration..... "He nearly made it" (to sanctuary). Absolutely NOTHING "weird" about his poor wife's comment, just dispiriting realising how utterly dim many people appear to be nowadays.
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How can you "make it make sense" to someone who has no understanding?
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I never realised he'd suffered an episode of TGA. That would very much be a potential factor in heat stoke induced disorientation.
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He was born in India.... that does NOT necessarily make you an "Indian".
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@VMM34 What was your parents permanent address at the time of your birth? Germany? Were they naturalised British? If they were German residents on hoilday in Britain... you try getting a British passport on that basis.... then again they give them away with boxes of "corm flakes" nowadays.
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@VMM34 Then if your mother was eligible for a UK passport, and your father was a German national then you would be entitled to "dual nationality" and be able to hold both a UK & a German passport.
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@matthewhackett1710 Mr Mosley, as he stated to his wife and friends, preferred not to return to Symi on the boat, but was walking back to the accomodation and NOT attempting "to tackle a hard climb without preparation or company". The distance he needed to cover, along clearly marked paths & roads of just under 3km is a short stroll for many people. His only misjudgement was his own assessment of how he would endure the walk in high temperatures. My guess is you have never suffered heat stroke. The first sign is irritability quickly followed by growing confusion which quite rapidly will descend into disorientation, This at first happens imperceptibly to the victim, usually because they have no previous knowledge of the progression of the symptoms. Hence why Mr Mosley took completely the wrong turn and walked AWAY from his accomodation and into the barren landscape of that rocky headland. The only reason for a raised eyebrow from me, is that Mr Mosley who appeared hugely aware of the human body and its processes seemed to be completely UNaware of the symptoms he was suffering and the danger he was blundering into.
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@Truthfully3 No he said he did not want to return to Symi on the boat, but wanted to walk back to their accomodation on foot, a short distance of just over 3km. His wife knows he didn't have a heart attack at the start of the walk because he was found 3 miles away in the wrong direction. The lack of "sense" is rooted in your own lack of understanding of the situation.
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@miacat1727 Who says he had no water? Got any other suppositions you want to throw in there?
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@melgrant7404 You have NO idea what the situation was... so why talk as if you're authority on the matter? The problem with uninformed people is they have NO idea of how uninformed they are.
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Your second point tends to show the idiocy of your first.
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@francobarry7304 "Strange things" like not carry their phone around with them? What's in the SLIGHTEST bit strange about that? He simply attempted to walk back to his accomodation in high temperatures, misjudged the conditions, suffered heat stroke, became diorientated, lost his way, blundered into a scorching hot rocky, barren headland and died of extreme dehydration.
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@francobarry7304 Nonsense. There's a difference between "knowing" about heat stroke, and experiencing heat stroke after making a small misjudgement that then leads to calamity. I was an operational fireman for 30 years and know all about heat stress, heat syncope and heat stroke. Yet 6 years ago on holiday in the Med I made an absentminded misjudgement that very nearly saw me in hospital with heat stroke. Luckily I saved myself in time, but it was pure luck that I did and I could have easily ended up in serious trouble.
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Thats a WHOLE lot of unsubstatiated assertions you've made there btw? Where have you got your info from? MSM news reports? Oh dear. She's not baffled, because she's a doctor with a FAR greater understanding of the human body and its adverse reactions to heat stroke, and remember before you pass comment on others of your own many mistakes and misjudgements through life, only yours have not turned out to be fatal. Or are you one of those perfect people, better than the rest of us (in your own mind at least) who never makes mistakes?
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@stormhawk3319 How do you know "he wasn't well" & "he had no water"? Is there video footage of his wife making a statement to that effect? Is it something you THINK "you know"? Or is it something that's "been reported" by the thickheaded juveniles that pass for "journalists" nowadays... I.E unsubstantiated hearsay? He left for a short boat trip with friends, and chose not to encumber himself with his phone, maybe there's no signal in the area where he was?.... Though I guess he's a person like myself who DOESN'T need my "personal tracking device" with me everywhere I go. I go outdoors frequently without my phone, like I did for all the years before they existed. When you're with friends out for a short trip some people prefer conversation WITHOUT a constantly bleeping and pinging phone. It was his choice, and one that humans have operated without for MILLENIA before the last 20-30 years. Granted it may well have proved to be a lifesaver for him... but hey that's hindsight for ya. "He nearly made it".... what's the problem with that statement? In a likely state of heat stroke induced disorientation, he traversed a barren, rocky headland in blistering heat, made it towards the only place of habitation he could see and most likely succumbed to extreme dehydration as he reached the fence of the complex... that would justify the "He nearly made it" comment.
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So he leaves his phone in his accomodation, travels a couple of miles away and then his wife was meant to insist he took his phone with him on the way home. Do you have problems getting out of bed in the morning?
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