Comments by "A Foxy Fox" (@aFoxyFox.) on "Do All Transgender People Think The Same? | Spectrum" video.

@Loveisloveislove2 It isn't a name change though is it? It is more than a name change when people are asking to be considered women and trying to infringe on an oppressed class like women. These are typically white males who infringe upon hard fought rights and spaces earned by women. Very few of us are in love with our names, nor did biological women have a choice about being biological women, similar to how these people demanding to be called women and to enter the spaces of women did not choose to be deranged and mentally ill. If someone demands that you call them Napoleon, nay, further, demand that you consider them the historical Napoleon Bonaparte, giving in is not doing the wacko any favors, and you'll be lying, and if you believe you are lying, why should you be forced with intimidation and threats and bullying and harassment to give in and think of this nutjob as genuine Napoleon or to keep complying with their insane demands that they be allowed into the properties and spaces which properly belong to Napoleon Bonaparte.
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@nero6737 Well, I don't think it is fair to say one is valid and the other is not valid. Why is one valid and the other not valid? Just because it is too small of a minority of people saying that it is important to them? We need to lay out what it is that makes one alright, and the other not alright, and then you should think how in the past one wasn't alright too, and so in the future, the one that isn't alright now, will probably be also. What does it take for one to be alright and the other to not be alright? Don't just parrot what the Grand Council (lol) has said, but actually philosophize a bit and think about it deeply. One person is saying that they don't like on their ID cards to be mis-identified as a male, because they are a female inside. Another says they don't want to be mis-identified as a Caucasian, because they are not such inside, they have dysphoria or whatever, their outside doesn't match with their inside, and "I feel like killing myself if I don't wear blackface", remember? It is the same argument that the transgender people so often make (and I am not denying that they are telling the truth, I really do think they would harm themselves and do harm themselves if they aren't allowed to do whatever they want to do or to make their outside image appear more matching to their inside image and to pressure and force people to comply with calling them things that others may not want to), but you'll come around and say the one crazy is different from the other crazy? Why? Suddenly the request is too much for you that you can't let the poor loon wear his blackface and insist you acknowledge him as a black woman like the ghost that lives inside their body? The only reason people can spit on the transrace people (besides their being non-white, in their imaginations at least), is because there aren't all that many of them so far, a minority of a minority, so a really tiny minority. It will come hopefully though, since there is no logical reasoning that should say one is sensible and the other is not sensible, or that one can have such desires and demands and the other can not have nearly identical desires and demands. Why? Women haven't been oppressed enough so taking on their guise is not as disturbing as the oppressed African descent people from some places that have experienced Slavery? Taking on their guise is somehow suddenly the worst imaginable thing? Just stomp on women, that is fine, because they are a "minority" of 50% in an inferior position and treated like second class citizens for thousands of years, but there are too many, so its ok, and the African descended from Slaves people are few enough that it is wrong to claim we are that "inside, really"? Nobody wants to argue these points, people just want to smash people over the head with whatever they want, and so it is a rule of mere violence and threats and condemnation and shaming people into the New Order. Who pays the price? Crazy people always think that they are the ones paying the most, they don't even think twice to see what this is regarding the hard fought rights and realities of biological women.
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@sana-gc5qc Respect people and don't treat them like crap if they make errors.
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@nero6737 My problem is that it is pushing me around and I don't like being pushed around, and furthermore I don't like people just suddenly making crap up out of the blue and imposing it on others, for example there are now people supposedly demanding they be called "bug" or "clownperson" and other ridiculous things. You don't think that alters my speech? There are fully bearded people who "represent" or whatever the word is, as males, who demand they be called a woman or a girl or she, and if you forget, they will pick a fight with you. It is rude, it is insane, and it is none of people's business to be demanding these things of others. I may comply, but that doesn't mean I don't feel horrible about complying, or even to submit to what I believe is an outright lie too, in fact, it would only create resentment, that this scumbag "got away" with trying to manipulate me, the way I speak, threatened me by having the threat of complaining or getting on my case if I don't comply, and then they make me say what they want to say. Yeah, it is a big deal. I'd rather the person drop dead than make me say something that I don't want to say by calling them "clownperson" or whatever the hell some nutjobs are demanding these days. People should stay the hell out of the way I want to talk. If someone says "they did that" and the person says "OMG YOU SAID THEY WHY DID YOU SAY THEY!" I want to karate chop their jugular or neck and end their circulation, it makes me real mad Nero, don't you see? How would you like someone comes around and starts pushing you around, and saying that if you don't comply they are going to yell and scream and make accusations about you if you don't do whatever they say or demand of you? Wouldn't you hate them too Nero? Just think about it, forget about these specific cases that you are taking as somehow acceptable or relatable, try to think of someone coming into an interaction with you and saying "Hey, listen up, I want you all to refer to me as baby, and if you don't, I'm going to make sure your life becomes a living hell", that is nothing but a thug, even if they are dressed in drag. Lets continue, there is more, some of these people are nothing but white males trying to impose on the private spaces cultivated by females, trying to "conquer" and impose themselves on the rights of women, the privacy of women, the hard work and the real experience of women, even to hijack the oppression that women have experienced, even in the reality of having periods and all the crap women deal with for how they look, and these people from a "higher class" want to come and take away all that, impose themselves into it, interject, and say "We are a minority too, we are women too" when they are simply men trying to take away more resources and hard fought rights of women and enter into conversations and spaces they don't belong in. They may not choose to be mental cases, but that doesn't give them the right to go around doing this. Imagine someone putting on blackface and saying "Hey, I'm African now, I know your struggles, I deserve your rights and special consideration" and they are a white male doing this, and they go further "I'm actually a black woman, my spirit is a black woman, call me a woman and call me black" and sometimes not even putting in the work of putting on blackface either (like some "I am a female" people presenting as wholly male, just to really make trouble for people or something). Trans probably means "Transgressive" more than anything, pushing people, pushing boundaries. They also make very hostile attempts to ruin anyone sometimes, because at the end of the day they are still mostly aggressive, Caucasian males, who have always bullied and pushed around everyone on Earth since they've come into power. So to hell with these unjust jerks and more white folks pushing around everyone and terrorizing minorities and women, this is just a new method.
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@jenniferdean1835 Would you have trouble applying those pronouns to someone you don't feel appropriately deserves to be called them? Lets say a white male demanded you consider them a "black female" and wanted you to call him her, and also wants to claim that the struggles of women and of slavery and racism are well known to them, because they are in-fact a "black woman" though you can't see it. They say "Why would I choose to be a black a woman? I am a black woman, even though the scientists (liars that they are) say that I have no recent African ancestry or ancestors and I'm biologically a male (with male chromosomes)." So wouldn't it appear to you, as well meaning as you are, that this white male from a class in society that has long oppressed women and people of other ethnicities and colors, is now wanting to appropriate all the struggles, hardships, protections, special considerations given to an oppressed class such as women and even black people, when they have no right to do so, they are nothing but a biological white male trying to invade spaces of women, trying to enter conversations regarding things they know absolutely nothing about (such as what it is really like to grow up being an actual woman from day one, and being treated differently by people because of it). They instead are coming from what is currently the "top class" in the hierarchy, and trying to add to what they've conquered and invaded by forcing and pressuring and bullying and manipulating and threatening people into saying that they deserve all the protections, spaces, and special considerations which biological women have fought hard to obtain and achieve for themselves. You'll draw the line perhaps at a person lying about their biology, but what about their ethnicity, that is going too far for you suddenly? Why can't these white males also go ahead and steal from not only women, but from people of African descent or Asian descent or whatever else while they are at it? Why don't they come up with notions like inside their hearts, they've always known they are actually a woman, actually a black woman, or an Asian woman, and so they know what it is like to be a real black person or Asian person or woman, because there is some kind of ghost inside of them that is really that. White men will always push the boundaries and take and take more and more, and they get the first line of dim people who don't understand what they are being pulled into or how they are being fooled and tricked, before the white men want more and transgress and push even further. This is not the way gay rights were won, with aggressive militancy and threats and bullying and pushing people into submission. So no. If I don't want to call a person a "clownperson" as some are demanding now, I will not call them that, even if they want to be called that, they can take a hike. Nor am I going to alter my beliefs and tell lies for people to make them happy. These are biological males, they are not females, they don't deserve to call themselves females, because they are the ones invading female spaces and appropriating hard earned female rights and considerations, they know nothing about being females, they are at best only ever pretending and putting on a guise to fool people into thinking they are females, when they are not, and can never be. They shouldn't be catered to at all, nor should they make demands of people. If you call people whatever they want to be called, go ahead and call me Lord then, because I'm whatever I say I am and you will comply, and if you don't comply then I'll gather a whole bunch of nasty people to make your life a living hell. That is the threat they put people under, it is not fair. Not everyone accepts that these people are women or should be called women, they find that insulting to women, they find that demeaning to a long oppressed class to let these typically white men invade their spaces again. Not only that, but next thing you know (and it has already happened and is happening), more demands will be made by these crazed bullies, like calling them "bug" or "bug person" or demanding they be considered some other ethnicity or species even, stop falling for it and giving in to the demands of oppressive people trying to oppress others with their demands and threats.
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@cahinton. There is more to it than that Hinton, read my other comments if you want to learn more, or believe what you want, but you might be right, I have no respect for people who try to impose upon and steal from minorities when they come from the typically oppressing and oppressive class (white / Caucasian males demanding things of women, taking things from women, demanding entering the spaces of women, etc).
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@Deme_Diora666 What is the n word? Is it Naomi? What if someone demanded of you to call them the n word, would you do it then? Why not?
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local swede True. "Christian", what does that even mean? It is like a biological Caucasian male saying they are a female African American, and demanding people call them such, it is utterly meaningless at this point.
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@Oda Sundsbak Consider it something like typing out that they are coughing.
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@blankfloor2683 Well, I think they are saying "Christians are popularly understood by people to be hostile to homosexuality and trans-genderism, but I am a Christian (belonging to the faction of people typically associated with hostility and defiance towards these groups and things) and I stand in solidarity with these ideas". When they turn around, most other Christians may have abandoned them due to this position.
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@nero6737 The Christians believe it is a sin for the most part, so would they be really helpful in their minds if they were very supportive, and thus encouraging, of what they consider sin and evil? That would be like telling people to go ahead and fornicate or something, they simply can't support any of that. There is enough in the Bible that has convinced them that this whole thing is wrong, and there are some who identify as Christian who accept these things, but a lot don't.
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@Deme_Diora666 That is a hypocritical argument I think. I do think it is important. Also, words take on multiple meanings. You may notice that dictionaries change and add new terminology, and sometimes they have multiple definitions listed for the same word, like 1. 2. etc. Just saying "it isn't the same" doesn't make any sense. If you want to be acknowledged by people as female when you are biologically (genetically) male, then you too should have the right to be acknowledged as another race or ethnicity on your ID cards for example or forms you fill out (when you're older maybe), so like sometimes it asks "what is your ethnicity", and what if your ethnicity "on the inside" doesn't match up with the one that you were supposedly born with or appear as? So you should have the right to check the box that you feel you "really are" on the inside, just like you "really are" a female, and want everyone to say so, even if you are biologically male and even appear to be a male to everyone, likewise, if you happen to be some other ethnicity "on the inside", then you should get people to acknowledge that too. Just because you yourself don't feel that way now, doesn't mean you should only get what you want, and not allow for others to get what they want too, if they want something else also, like that they fill out forms and be acknowledged as an East Asian Woman, even if they are biologically a male and biologically a Caucasian.
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@Deme_Diora666 I read your whole comment, I didn't write your whole comment back to you, I may have paraphrased some section and was trying to discuss about how I personally don't see there being all that great of a difference, and if you could spare the time to address that and lay out the differences that can be clearly reasoned, it might be nice, but if not or you don't feel up to it, that is alright. For now though, I don't see there being all that much of a difference between someone who is biologically male who wants to be called female, who wants to be called or considered another ethnicity, who wants to be called another species even, since it has nothing to do with biology at this point, but rather with matching up their inside ideas and images with what people call them and consider them. So, supposedly (unless it is some kind of joke), there are people who want to demand of others that they be called "bug" "bug person" "clown" "clown person" and other strange things for example, and I don't know much about it or if it is true, but I can see that it is just an extension of this same idea and strangeness about words and making demands of others, trying to manipulate, threaten, and harass others, twist their arms into meeting demands for fear of repercussions otherwise. I'm a cowardly person, so I'd certainly give in to these demands and arm twisting efforts in person, but I'd harbor a lot of animosity and hostility about having my arm twisted into calling a fully bearded biological Caucasian male (bully) "She" because they said if I don't, they will get me in big trouble, harass me, ruin my career, etc.
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@ThatRandomYTGamer Either that is true now, or it will be true later.
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@igloozoo3771 Very interesting. I'd like to learn more.
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@PoisonEevee What did I write that you are reacting to? It was probably meaningless and can be ignored. Thank you for your concern though. I can discuss anything you may wish to though.
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@alejandromonteroborbon5696 Yes, I use it too, but not usually when people demand that I contort the modern English language based on whims that can lead to confusion and misleading sentences. So if someone asks me to call them Tigerperson every time I refer to them in speech, I'd rather they didn't exist, because they seem to be annoying and invasive in how they are trying to control what I say or how I say it, "or else".
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@skylarsilver6660 Can we only be men or women? Can't we be something else or more than that?
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@happypiano4810 The chromosomal argument is not very useful is it? These people who are biological males continue to have the chromosomes of that sex.
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