Comments by "gwho" (@gwho) on "Higgs Boson Discovery Wins Nobel Prize for Physics" video.

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  10. ***** It wasn't that I ignored basic logic. I held to it as best as I could. But I did not know it well. Who ever gets taught epistemology or philosophy as kids? When do you ever really pick it up? The religious asserts were taken as postulates, but more strongly valid postulates. It inevitably seems more strong/valid when you're a kid told it since day 1, and when you don't know other important points and arguments. Then comes the point of counterarguments. You can take it as it is. It's valid. But just as with any conflicting viewpoints and arguments, there is a digesting, clashing period, where you think through the implications, and test the validity, etc. Just like in court, or when debating a scientific hypothesis. You have objections. you have coutnerarguments, "but how about this line of reasoning? but how do you explain that?" And there are many people who throw those kind of questions just to stifle them. I was genuinely asking them. For instance, macroevolution. big jumps, how is it possible? Microevolution, sure, we observe that. Another: hydroplate theory. "Please rebut it" Another: why can't god, or certain initial conditions just be so? (upon further knowledge, the backwards regression of the hubble's constant points strongly to the big bang. interventions could defy that logic, but then you have to establish existence of god, the nature of god, which ultimately lack evidence, and must be discarded in favor of observable, reproducible constancy of the laws of physics. Again, there is a lack of knowledge and exposure to proper thinking. I really always submitted myself to it, and gravitated towards the study of logic and philosophy, but many people don't, and don't ever really get exposed to philosophy. After accepting the scientific method, as opposed to platonic world of forms or a god hypothesis that lead to corollaries very difficult if not to establish or test... after being exposed to many logical arguments... after actually having my rebuttal points addressed... after having time to truly digest it all... THEN one lets go. I'm human just like everyone else, but from my observations, I'm rare in that I truly do seek and subject myself to logic. My rebuttals and questions and defenses weren't ever shit I threw at people to shut them up, or bury my brain in the sand. I started off in a bad starting point, lacked exposure and teaching to philosophy and logical thinking like most people, but I've now gotten to a point where epistemology, and philosophy is correctly approached. And everything follows from there. And if there is something that overturns that, it won't be on whim, emotional desire, or tolerating contradictions. Thanks for asking. I think I got a lot out of explaining my side, which allowed me to identify how to approach and what goes on in others' minds. We're really all pretty similar, despite our differences. So presenting counter arguments, establishing epistemological postulates, and discussing the root beliefs, rather than their corollaries, doing it warmly, respecting the others' feelings and dignity, addressing their objections by continuing from their line of reasoning (and not only with arguments with new external postulates), and really discussing philosophy (i.e. how to think and the scientific method), and giving them time is the approach I conclude.
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