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Comments by "earthstick" (@earthstick) on "We Will Continue to Fight for Britain’s History and Heritage in 2021" video.
If we forget our history of slavery it makes it all the easier to go down that path again. History isn't always recorded for celebration, there are other reasons.
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Maybe it's because we finished paying back the debt that this has flared up again. People not satisfied.
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@astrecks It went to slave owners but was it called reparations? The wrong doing was not to the slave owners. What they received was more like compensation, was it that the government effectively bought the slaves from the traders and freed them? The traders did not work the slaves. If they had then remuneration would be appropriate but if the traders did not work them then how would remuneration be measured?
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@goodlookinouthomie1757 Well that's it. It's essentially begging and anyone who has given money to a beggar know they will ask you for money again 20 minutes later as if they have never met you before. The question here is how do we put the past to rest. These people tearing p the past are their own worst enemies because it is our memory of the bad things that people did in the past that stops us from doing them again. I notice that it is one group of people who have an axe to grind. India on the other hand threw out the British empire and they have not succumbed to the victimhood narrative. Is that because they brought about their own freedom?
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@astrecks My thoughts are also that the government effectively bought the slaves from the traders and freed them because at the time that the traders bought them, the practise was not illegal. I make a distinction between slaves, first sellers, traders and owners. The traders did not put the slaves to work because it was not in their interests. The first sellers also profited from slavery and the remuneration owed to the slaves from the final owners (who put them to work) can be calculated. Maybe there is an argument that the traders owed the slaves for the time between their purchase and sale. But all those involved are long gone.
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@astrecks I think it is important to make the distinction between slaves, first owners, traders and final owners. The first owners (those who first enslaved people) were not white Europeans, they were people from neighbouring African countries, Burkina Faso and Benin. Is it ok for Africans to take slaves? If they are equal to ourselves then they should have equal standards and refrain from slavery. Or are they not equal? If they are equals yet still take slaves then we are equally entitled to. The contradiction is that they cannot be equal, engage in slavery while we cannot. Cognitive dissonance.
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