Comments by "Darnit" (@darnit1944) on "Why Japanese Swords Are So Expensive | So Expensive" video.

In traditional way, yes. But modern steel is actually better. You can make a better sword with modern steel. But if you want to keep the tradition...
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@hayek218 Quality as in strength? Durability? If it is unbeatable, then modern steel should have the quality or at least manufacturing technique.
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@hayek218 Yeah i highly doubt that. This is exactly the same argument that made Katana overrated. Japanese swordsmiths took a long time to manipulate carbon content, shape, and every other aspects i dont know, of each blade, while modern forgery techniques can do the same in minutes. That's also the reason why Japan sought out Western forgings in the 1700-1800s to modernize. But if you want historical, tradition, and beauty, you can seek traditionally crafted Japanese blades.
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@socialreject2156 https://youtu.be/uL2bpuyTHto Here you go. In short, we can recreate Japanese blades with modern methods with cheaper production cost, significantly more durable, and better at retaining its edge. Japanese iron is not the best in the world. But they do have amazing methods to create an excellent blade in that era.
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@hayek218 Just read your comment, and several others about Katana, implying that Japanese steel is the best and definitely better modern steel. Go to katana videos, and you will find bunch of them. Go to longsword vs katana videos and you'll also find some. That's the basis of my argument about how Japanese steel is overrated. Let me say this again. Japan does not have the best steel, the swordsmiths developed the folding technique so they can make a good blade out of the available material.
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@hayek218 Again, properly made katana today is made for decoration more than its practical use, since modern steel technically outperforms it. But in theory, modern steel is engineered to have greater quality than Japanese steel. As you know, Japan is a volcanic island with bad steel.
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@hayek218 Alright whatever you say, i hope you make a good Samurai with your Bullshitto code.
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@JohnT2088 You're right. But i'm talking about modern steel specifically made for sword making. The bloomery technique that the Japanese do is to make a good steel out of crappy Japanese iron. If the Japanese can make a good steel out of better material, there is absolutely no need of that folding with thousands of layers. That folding part is to remove imperfection. With modern forging and smelting, we can remove the imperfection better than the old Japanese technique.
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@hayek218 Are you asking me what kind of modern steel? On technical name, i cant say since it is not my speciality. Go and watch the videos i gave you the link. For proof, unfortunately i cant find any test, and again since traditional katana is too expensive to be tested Or maybe, this https://history.stackexchange.com/questions/5729/how-do-tamahagane-damascus-and-toledo-steel-compare http://www.thesamuraiworkshop.com/university/content/7/74/en/are-there-any-advantages-to-folded-laminated-or-so-called-clay-tempered-blades.html "With access to the metallurgical techniques that were common by the 1850’s (when Japan opened its borders after centuries of isolation), there’s little benefit to this backbreaking, time-consuming method. Modern Japanese swordsmiths are actually required, by law, to follow the old ways, but the only advantage this confers is to produce a beautiful grain on a sword that is a unique work of art." https://newtonsapple.club/engineering/samurai-swords/ Today's modern steels do not require folding as they did in feudal Japan. Our steel refining methods are much better from foundries with hundreds of years more experience creating quality billets of steel. https://www.reliks.com/forged-katana/ Say, i have many presented many videos and proves. You only question me, but did not provide counter argument. You only said that Kamakura period swords are strong and durable without any prove.
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@hayek218 Do you know how Tamahagane is formed? By stacking steel together and fold it to remove imperfection. This technique is required since, for the last time, Japan has very low quality steel. The folding technique creates the pattern you see on Katanas. This however is not required on a modern steel since they already removed imperfection with modern technique. Better, faster, and much cheaper than the traditional Tamahagane forging technique. The katana is curved because of differential hardening, that means the backbone of the blade is painted with clay to slow down the cooling when quenching, this process also creates the curve on the blade. Now, do you have any arguments against this? Or maybe disprove what i have above?
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@socialreject2156 My suggestion is either research more to further prove his thick head, or just leave. This dude clearly doesnt know shit about metallurgy. I dont know much, but at least i can provide evidence, scientific (look at my comments).
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@GuyIdiot Dont try to argue with him dude. He's unable to be reasoned with. Remember, it's hard to win arguments against geniuses, but it's impossible to win against an idiot.
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@socialreject2156 It's called the Bullshitto code. I made that up.
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@NationChosenByGod I'm Asian. I took pride in my culture. However i'm more of a practical man. I'm not afraid to admit that my culture's traditional blade like Keris or Rencong is inferior to modern steel. I did not say Japanese blades are bad, i'm saying the traditional way of crafting the blade is clearly inferior to modern steel. Modern Japanese blades are excellent since the production have been modernized. Refining the steel with modern furnace with traditional style forging makes Japanese blades excellent.
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@hayek218 If only someone is rich enough to provide a traditional crafted katana to be destroyed. If i show you similar practical repro katana destruction video, you would dismiss me since it is "modern repro". You may have handled "real" katana, but i dont think you have destroyed one or maybe at least do a little research on metallurgy.
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@hayek218 Here, go watch this https://youtu.be/uL2bpuyTHto
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@GuyIdiot mind him, he's practicing the code of Bullshitto. I made that.
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@NationChosenByGod Again, i have commented several times here. Traditional katana is inferior in practical use to modern steel repro. Inferior in keeping its edge, inferior in strength. The reason why modern steel repro is folded is so it can make similar pattern to replicate the beauty of traditional patterns.
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@hayek218 Another one to make you understand more about https://youtu.be/LLqZdfcVoV8
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@zeroace4746 Katana is good at keeping its edge, however their sharp edge are brittle, prone to breaking under high stress, because it is not flexible. Flexibility in swords made it resist breaking better. Better bend and sprung back than breaking, right? Edit: grammar correction
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@hayek218 You're clearly missing every of my point of view. And dont mind replying, im not arguing anymore. I gave up.
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Traditional method, modern tools, good way to produce a piece of art
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@HansBalneger Eh, maybe in 200 years, a Glock is considered excellent for wall hanging
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@divinrth5187 It's just a matter of preference right? I wont question about your preference of Beretta or Sig Sauer pistols. They are excellent, and Glocks too.
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@divinrth5187 Strange. This is the first time i heard a complain about Glock's recoil. But ok, i wont judge personal preference. Everyone has their own taste and it should serve them better than my opinions.
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@browse6360 I nearly forgot that movie existef
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@aimelunio4337 Read all of my comments, please. From top to bottom.
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Hype, and idiots who thinks it deserves its price.
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@sergeantrainstorm1269 He says good enough swords.
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I believe it's because of the labor. Materials are not that hard to find, especially in the modern world. Yes, even some Katana reproductions are made with modern tech, such as magnets to gather the ore better than just scooping sand.
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@m249machinegun2 I dont think you need a marketing for this. Collectors all over the world would just look at the list of certified Japanese traditional blacksmiths and pick one.
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Bold of you to assume neckbeards are able to afford them
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Modern steel can be better, let ke tell youbthat
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They just cut a single sheet of steel, harden it, give it handle and call it a day.
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Because iron can be turned into steel?
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It was a long and tedious process. I believe the price is appropriate. But if you want cheaper and practical sword, there's an option.
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@putra_maliki Yeah, i could just bought my shirt uniqlo for cheaper. Boy, and their shirt dont stink even after a sweaty day at all.
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Collectors.
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Well, modern reproduction of Katanas, i mean the good quality one, practically outperformed the traditionally crafted swords in terms of durability, flexibility, and how it will hold its edge
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Dont be. Buy a practical katana crafted with modern steel. Trust me it is superior in durability and ability to keep its edge than traditional katana.
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