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Comments by "MarcosElMalo2" (@MarcosElMalo2) on "County Shuts Down Woman's Business w/Bizarre Argument" video.
@matirion But the “intended for disposal” argument falls apart if an individual intends to give the unwanted material to another. What about used furniture that the owner wishes to get rid of? Does that become property of the state? What if it’s broken? Should a handyman be prohibited from fixing it and repurposing it? If the answer is “the state owns it”, Goodwill and the Salvation Army are in a lot of trouble. They’ve been breaking the law for years.
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Imagine you own a junk car, it’s parked in front of your house and you wish to sell it to a salvage company! This could get really absurd very rapidly. “You cannot sell county property, but at the same time you must pay fines for abandoning a vehicle in front of your house.” 😂
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Did elected officials make this decision, or was it career officials and/or appointed officials? Unless you can show that the elected officials made the decision, voting all of them out of office as a first step seems like a kneejerk reaction.
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@idristaylor5093 He is recommending political violence. You know, the T-word.
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@JH-pt6ih “local control” by a contractor who presumably has contracts statewide?
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Did it specify at what point in the “putting it in the trash” process that private ownership is lost? I assume it means when the receptacle goes out to the curb and hopefully that is defined in the ruling.
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Most likely it isn’t a criminal violation but an administrative one. It would still be a case, but it wouldn’t be handled by criminal prosecutors unless a criminal statute was broken. It might also be a civil case, but again, that wouldn’t be handled by a criminal prosecutor like a DA.
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I don’t draw that lesson at all. The lesson I draw is that there are some bad regulations that are then stupidly enforced. Your “lesson” doesn’t differentiate between bogus regulations/laws and regulations/laws that have justifiable reasons.
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In addition to the issue of ownership, I am curious about the scale. How many tons of vegetable waste a month are we talking? I’m willing to bet it’s less than a half ton per month, which would be negligible in terms of energy generated from incineration. The local government is going after a trivial amount of “lost revenue”.
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When I was a kid, I had to go through the trash looking for a retainer before the trash truck arrived. My parents insisted I do it, so I suppose I can blame them. Regardless, it is now clear to me that my career as a Juvenile Delinquent can be traced back to that day. Also, I now feel a lot better about throwing trash out the car window. I wasn’t littering, I was transferring property to the local government.
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How does it feel to discover that your dad would be considered a dangerous criminal in Florida? 😂
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Unseating the local government seems absolutely crazy as well. Did local elected officials enact the policy? Are they involved in the daily operation of waste disposal? Probably not. That doesn’t mean elected officials shouldn’t be pressured over this absurd enforcement, but “throwing the bums out” over this issue seems like a huge overreaction. Sadly, it’s apparently a common reaction.
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@J4k7193R I have questions about the scale of operations, and how much revenue is being lost due to the composting activities. How much compostable material does this woman gather each month? What amount of energy revenue would this represent to the waste disposal company? After these questions are answered, we can then talk about externalities like air pollution one one hand, and lessening demand for chemical fertilizers on the other. Once we know that, we can come to a determination of what the vermiculturalist’s activities are costing local government, damaging society, and impeding the generation of electricity.
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Probably if there are repeated instances of non-compliance, leading to fines, and then refusing to pay the fines. This doesn’t mean it will rise to criminality, but that it could.
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