Youtube comments of Archaic Arms (@Archaic-Arms).

  1. Thank you sir! These are good points, and have thought along similar lines. It is indeed a device that sits a little awkwardly between javelins, bows, and slings. I believe that if it were to be deployed, it could be given to slingers to train with, to replace the heavy stones (~350-450g) that were used against heavy infantry. The slingers will already be deployed in such a way that they have room to use them, and while the darts are a bit more expensive, the reduced weight, greater range, and increased terminal effect that a 200g dart could provide over a heavy stone, could perhaps give it a worthwhile place in the army. Thank you also for the practical suggestions!
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  2. Yes I agree, silly mistake on my part!
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  3. A thicker helmet and more padding might provide more protection, but it makes the neck even more vulnerable to breaking or whiplash, like you say.
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  4. Definitely would have made it difficult to concentrate on the ancient battlefield with hundreds flying down at once!
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  5. Thanks! The sling is an incredibly powerful and capable device, and what top athletes could have achieved with it in the past is far beyond what I'll ever manage. That said, there are still many tests I like to do with it, which could provide at least some insight.
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  6. Wearing the helmet before hand, I suspect a tennis-ball slung hard at the helmet would be quite jarring, let alone a stone 7 times the weight…
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  7. Wait until you hear the "proper" metal ones...
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  8. Ha, literally!
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  9. Thank you sir!
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  10. I've had the same thought! Another thing is that you can carry a sling at all times because it's compact and light. There is a downside though...once you've used a sling, you will never see stones the same way again.
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  11. Great to hear! Its a fantastic forgotten skill, and I love to see it growing. Thanks!
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  12. Much appreciated!
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  13.  @dendemano  I made it. I am currently working on a video tutorial for this design.
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  14. All sling energy data to date: (In order of projectile weight) 41” Sling: 40g 76m/s - 115J , 3.0kgms 47g 77m/s - 139J , 3.6kgms 50g 73m/s - 133J , 3.7kgms 56.2g 75m/s = 158J , 4.2kgms 58.2g 74m/s = 159J , 4.3kgms 60.5g 72m/s = 157J , 4.4kgms 61.7g 72m/s = 160J , 4.4kgms 62.5g 69m/s = 149J , 4.3kgms 63.1g 70m/s = 155J , 4.4kgms 74g 70m/s = 181J , 5.2kgms 78.5g 68m/s = 181J , 5.3kgms 88g 68m/s = 203J, 6.0kgms 98.9g 60m/s = 178J , 5.9kgms 158g 47m/s = 175J , 7.4kgms 168g 50m/s = 210J , 8.4kgms 193g 48m/s = 222J , 9.3kgms 204g 50m/s = 255J , 10.2kgms 207g 47m/s = 229J , 9.7kgms 219g 45m/s = 222J , 9.9kgms 232g 47m/s = 256J , 10.9kgms 267g 43m/s = 247J , 11.5kgms ------------------------------ 28” Linen Sling: 60.5g 63m/s = 120J , 3.8kgms 62.3 62m/s = 120J , 3.9kgms 62.5 60m/s = 113J , 2.8kgms 71.5g 61m/s = 133J , 4.4kgms 73.1g 63m/s = 145J , 4.6kgms 78g 62m/s = 150J , 4.8kgms 83.6g 55m/s = 126J , 4.6kgms 87.2g 58m/s = 147J , 5.1kgms 95g 56m/s = 149J , 5.3kgms 96g 56m/s = 151J , 5.4kgms 100.3g 53m/s = 141J , 5.3kgms 102g 52m/s = 137J , 5.3kgms 103.8g 55m/s = 157J , 5.7kgms 105g 53m/s = 147J , 5.6kgms 105g 53m/s = 147J , 5.6kgms 119g 53m/s = 167J , 6.3kgms 125g 51m/s = 162J , 6.4kgms 125g 51m/s = 162J , 6.4kgms 132g 49m/s = 158J , 6.5kgms 132.6g 49m/s = 159J , 6.5kgms 134.3g 49m/s = 161J , 6.6kgms 136g 51m/s = 177J , 6.9kgms 136.1g 51m/s = 177J , 6.9kgms 142g 48m/s = 163J , 6.8kgms 143g 48m/s = 165J , 6.9kgms 150.5g 48m/s = 173J , 7.2kgms 156g.5g 49m/s = 188J , 7.7kgms 176.2g 46m/s = 186J , 8.1kgms 176.5g 41m/s = 148J , 7.2kgms 179g 45m/s = 181J , 8.0kgms 184g 44m/s = 178J , 8.1kgms 214g 42m/s = 189J , 9.0kgms 225.2g 42m/s = 199J , 9.5kgms 245g 41m/s = 206J , 10.0kgms 248g 38m/s = 179J , 9.4kgms ----------------------------- 24.5” Esparto Balearic: 73g 52m/s = 99J , 3.8kgms 80g 49m/s = 96J , 3.9kgms 83g 47m/s = 92J , 3.9kgms 87g 47m/s = 96J , 4.1kgms 98g 47m/s = 108J , 4.6kgms 98g 50m/s = 123J , 4.9kgms 135g 42m/s = 119J , 5.7kgms 135g 46m/s = 143J , 6.2kgms 150g 41m/s = 126J , 6.2kgms 163g 44m/s = 158J , 7.2kgms 167g 40m/s = 134J , 6.7kgms 170g 41m/s = 143J , 7.0kgms 175g 40m/s = 140J , 7.0kgms 180g 39m/s = 137J , 7.0kgms 180g 39m/s = 137J , 7.0kgms 185g 41m/s = 155J , 7.6kgms 189g 39m/s = 143J , 7.4kgms 191g 39m/s = 145J , 7.5kgms 195g 39m/s = 148J , 7.6kgms 197g 39m/s = 150J , 7.7kgms 208g 38m/s = 150J , 7.9kgms 212g 37m/s = 145J , 7.8kgms 216g 38m/s = 156J , 8.2kgms 227g 36m/s = 147J , 8.2kgms 240g 36m/s = 156J , 8.6kgms 240g 37m/s = 164J , 8.9kgms 283g 35m/s = 173J , 9.9kgms 347g 33m/s = 189J , 11.5kgms ------------------------------ 18” Balearic Sling: 103g 43m/s = 95J , 4.4kgms 108g 43m/s = 100J , 4.6kgms 110g 41m/s = 92J , 4.5kgms 126g 40m/s = 101J , 5.0kgms 163g 38m/s = 118J , 6.2kgms 203g 36m/s = 132J , 7.3kgms 222g 37m/s = 152J , 8.2kgms 224g 36m/s = 145J , 8.1kgms 229g 34m/s = 132J , 7.8kgms 240g 33m/s = 131J , 7.9kgms 246g 33m/s = 134J , 8.2kgms 255g 32m/s = 131J , 8.2kgms 262g 33m/s = 143J , 8.6kgms 286g 31m/s = 137J , 8.9kgms 300g 32m/s = 154J , 9.6kgms 313g 32m/s = 160J , 10.0kgms 318g 29m/s = 134J , 9.2kgms 323g 31m/s = 155J , 10.0kgms 350g 29m/s = 147J , 10.2kgms 354g 29m/s = 149J , 10.3kgms 390g 28m/s = 152J , 10.9kgms 403g 29m/s = 169J , 11.7kgms 406g 30m/s = 183J , 12.2kgms 422g 28m/s = 165J , 11.8kgms 437g 28m/s = 171J , 12.2kgms 444g 28m/s = 174J , 12.4kgms 482g 26m/s = 163J , 12.5kgms 506g 25m/s = 158J , 12.7kgms 596g 25m/s = 186J , 14.9kgms 780g 24m/s = 225J , 18.7kgms -------------------------------
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  15. Haha, I've had some close calls but haven't smashed the camera... yet! I try to aim near, but not too near.
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  16. Very difficult to compare slings to guns, as a big stone moving slowly will have a very different terminal effect to a small supersonic bullet. Kinetic energy also favours speed over mass, which is why momentum is a very important aspect to consider.
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  17. When It comes to slings vs armour, the heavier the better!
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  18. Thank you!
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  19. It is a crucial element for the sling's long range capabilities.
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  20. TheJackinati275 Is on the right track. I'll try and make a short film about how I wear the tunic.
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  21. Thanks! What I've found is that the larger and deeper the hole, the lower the pitch. I've recently found a combination that works much better, so there will definitely be another installment in the near future...
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  22. Thanks for sharing! Cheers!
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  23. An element of it could be the sling, in that the 41” does not have an optimal grip for slinging heavy projectiles. I recon on solid ground and with another sling, I could probably get 300J. I’m also a relatively small man (under 140lb) so someone larger could be stronger and utilise a longer powerstroke, and achieve more.
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  24. Thanks for sharing your thoughts! Some good points there. In my tests, these darts have a bit more kinetic energy than a 1kg javelin, but less momentum. Because of the higher speed, they would be more likely penetrate through a shield, but with less overall energy transfer. The real benefit I see of a javelin is how you can throw it from a tight space and easily encumber a shield, with just the one. I'm not sure whether these darts would be more useful light or heavy. Lighter makes it closer to an arrow, heavier makes it closer to a javelin. One area I could see these darts being used, is freeing up archers being used against formations. They could then be used in a role that really takes advantage of their superior accuracy.
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  25. Thank you sir!
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  26. Haha thank you for very generous words! but I know there is still much to learn, so a master I am not.
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  27. Thank you! Glad you enjoyed. If you're new to slings, I recommend practicing with shorter slings and working up, as long slings are particularly easy to send a stone fast and far, in a direction it shouldn’t.
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  28. Upon review, I suspect these three throws with the 18" to be miss-readings: 240g 38m/s = 173J , 9.1kgms 283g 35m/s = 173J , 9.9kgms 364g 33m/s = 198J , 12.0kgms (due to being outliers in the data)
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  29. Thanks! I did manage go to the Ibiza competition this year. I think elite slingers would potentially be able to hit a man sized target at 200m some of the time, but I believe at 400m it would be area target.
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  30. This likely varied depending on the sling length and type of projectile. I will cover this in a future video, perhaps the next one?
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  31. Webley revolvers such as the WG, are very pleasant and fun to shoot! Churchill was quite a character.
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  32.  @FlyinBrian777  Clay is reusable once kiln fired too!
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  33. Looking for a new supplier, as the esparto I got a while back isn't available anymore. If I find some I'm considering importing for sale .
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  34. The points were commissioned from James Wood Blacksmith, but the rest I made myself.
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  35. Thank you. Only the end of the sling breaks the sound barrier, but the shot isn't a slouch in terms of velocity either. I intend to revisit this at some point with a longer sling and projectiles that whistle better.
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  36. I'm not sure If I can word it any better than the video, but basically the only strand that crosses across to the left hand braid, is one of the halves of the top strand of the right hand braid. By bringing one half across, each side then has 2 unsplit strands and 1 half strand. (which allows you to do two 5 strand braids of half-thickness strands) My advice for keeping tension is, do one side first, then the other, then unbraid the first to pull out any slack ,re-braid it, then unbraid the other side to pull out more slack, etc. When doing it first time it can be a bit of a balancing act. It's mostly just practice.
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  37. Thanks Mersa! Unfortunately with pirouette, all point accuracy goes out the window, but they are fast. I wonder what they sound like incoming.
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  38. It’s been a long, drawn out process.
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  39. Thanks! I like your videos on the whistlers too!
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  40. Yes, now imagine them skilfully using a sling. Immense power. Barehand puts a lot of strain on the arm, and throwing that fast can only be down a handful of times here and there to prevent injury. I could easily sling that same power all day no problem. The sling is smooth and very low strain on the body, with good technique.
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  41. Thanks Mersa! I hope to sling with you someday in the Balearics, or if you find yourself in SW England ;)
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  42. Turns out that I've already done something very similar for another upcoming video, using better whistle-shot audio... It's quite interesting!
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  43. Here's a tutorial for this type of sling: https://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1382647725/0 The snap is the result of the tassel (loose fibres) at the end of the sling, dissipating the cord energy. A tapered release cord will also make the "snap" louder. Hope that helps!
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  44. Cheers. After some warm up throws I was getting a hit every few misses. (1 in 5 maybe?)
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  45. I could do an energy comparison of barehand throw vs sling, as that would give a rough idea of the increase in power from the mechanical advantage.
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  46. Cheers! It makes a very big difference to range. Thanks for watching!
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  47. These were just dried, intended for single use. I did find some that survived being slung however.
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  48. It just requires a little more practice to adjust the to the loop style of release. Even despite that, the second group I got was about ~1m at 40m, which considering is the first day of throwing for accuracy, is quite decent.
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  49. Lot's of mindful practice, and you could do the same! The main thing is to not give up.
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  50. I will make a tutorial soon. It's not just practice but also how you practice. Practicing each specific element individually and being aware of their effects, helps to learn faster. It also helps to watch skilled slingers when learning technique.
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  51. There are still ways you can use a sling! A sling with a release knot can be held between the index and middle finger, without the need for the thumb.
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  52. I haven’t noticed, so when you mentioned it I went to find the slow motion throw, and forgot to put it in… It’ll go in the next one. Hope you liked it! I know you wanted to see this style pursued.
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  53. I'm honored! I'd love to join you lot going over there someday.
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  54. Certainly worth a try! I'll show a few braid types in the next one, they are not difficult to learn.
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  55. Slinging can be very similar to pitching barehand. It's basically a non-rigid extension of the arm that increases the path length of the projectile, so output directly correlates with the efficiency of the slinger's technique, their size, and their strength. Someone may be muscular, but they tend to be less flexible, so are not optimized for speed. For superhuman strength, I'd say they'd be best suited throwing heavier projectiles. More strength doesn't necessarily mean higher top speed, but it does mean greater speed with heavier projectiles.
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  56. I do have a set of 85g bullets, which I intend to test at some point. I wouldn’t expect to get any greater speeds though, since the difference in drag between lead and stone during the powerstroke is likely negligible.
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  57. Thank you!
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  58. Thanks for watching! My very first Balearic was jute as well, good to learn with. Not the most durable, but certainly works. Yes I braid a different material in for the tassel, synthetics being the most durable in this application. A common solution in the Balearics is to braid the end of the sling out from the fibres of poly rope or twine. I will cover the options and my technique in detail, with the tutorial.
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  59. All of the ones listed in the video. Esparto is the best natural fibre in my opinion, but I cover that in more detail in the upcoming video.
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  60. Thanks, I learned a few years ago from this: https://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1382647725/0
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  61. I believe in spanish "Diana" means bullseye, and "quadro" means board.
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  62. Thanks! No I don't have sports experience, but I've sort of always liked throwing things, cards, knives nails, javelin, etc.
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  63. Thanks!
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  64. I usually fully wax hemp and linen slings. Slowly add the wax until it soaks through to the other side of the braid. When held over heat, it shouldn't look "wet", as that means there is too much wax. Too much wax makes the sling overly stiff. Water will still works it's way into the braid (so not good in the rain), but changes in humidity doesn't effect it.
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  65. With yarns, I only splice in new ones at the pouch. For a short sling, 19" I will do two wingspans, for a 28" three wingspans. The yarns added for the pouch do not have to be very long.
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  66. It's very surprising how quickly people can learn when tutored.
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  67. Wasn't aiming for anything other than getting the shots close to the camera without hitting it.  This is not an accuracy or equipment video. I have other videos on that. Simply about noise-making bullets.
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  68. Nettle is very similar to linen or hemp, so indeed it does!
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  69. In this case, the plumbata is the atlatl thrower in terms of gained leverage. (The lead weight acting like the mass of an atlatl dart) You just let go of the whole thing. Very clever and very simple.
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  70.  @mikeg4365  I'd have to make a video about that in order for it to be comprehensive. Before I do that I need to make a video showing what I can actually do, not just taking my word for anything.
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  71. Yes, 7 strand just requires a bit more diligence regarding even tensioning, but the rest of the principles, (including the knee) remain the same.
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  72. Currently under works! Thank you for your patience.
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  73.  @LuxisAlukard  Good quality clay should probably withstand hits against wood when fired properly. On the other hand, dried clay breaks when it hits anything hard.
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  74. Wow, that is insightful thank you. As someone who hasn't been under fire, nor a barrage of sling bullets, I didn't fully realise the extent this weapon could have given people PTSD, and triggered it, on the ancient battlefield. Lead bullets are much louder, and sound even scarier when slung at a higher velocity from a long sling. I hope this video has not effected your recovery in a bad way.
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  75. Thanks Sylvain!
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  76. Cheers, thanks for watching!
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  77. Yes I love them too, very handy and controllable. However if they're too short, and your not used too it, such slings can be a good way to get tennis-elbow. :)
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  78. Thanks Kick!
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  79. Absolutely. Very versatile and effective.
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  80. You can use the same ammo for most length slings, but short slings are more comfortable to use with heavy stones. Lighter projectiles are generally used with long slings, because they go the fastest and furthest. However, heavier ammo will always give higher kinetic energy, no matter the sling length.
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  81. Live games would be a lot of fun to take part in. My current phone is out of date with no memory, but I'm looking for solutions. All the filming I'm doing for the comps is on a camcorder.
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  82. Next time I practice with that sling length, I'll get some better video, and show the technique. The technique doesn't have much application other than throwing as fast and far as possible, with little regard for accuracy.
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  83. It's currently under works!
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  84. I plan to make some proper metal ones of the historical weight which should be much louder.
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  85. An atlatl wouldn’t be suitable in this case I’m afraid, and this dart is twice the weight and far too stiff. Instead, the plumbata is itself like the atlatl stick in leverage terms, but you let the whole thing go.
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  86. Momentum is a very important factor when discussing projectiles. It may only have the kinetic energy of a .22, but it has loads more momentum, making it many times more dangerous.
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  87. These ones weren't fired, but I've made proper ceramic ones and they are very hard. It depends on the quality of the clay, but good ceramic projectiles should be as strong as some types of rock. However, some rocks are incredibly strong and hard like quartzites, dolerites, etc. The likes of which, clay cannot even compare.
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  88. Thanks for watching, no I have not. I use the sling is as a sport and for historical interest.
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  89.  @robertbrumfitt6548  I typically use a sling about arm-length for target work. Lengths up to ~30" (for most people) are easier to be accurate with than slings that are longer. Also, long slings take up a lot of room. A very short sling say 18" can be used almost anywhere in comparison.
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  90. Unfortunately there are no slingers around to my knowledge that possess the throwing ability of professional pitchers or javelin throwers. The sling community is very small internationally, and even in the Balearics.
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  91. I met a few Balearic slingers make their slings this, but it seems just personal preference. It isn't an area that will experience any wear, so most don't make the retention cord side like the belly.
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  92. Unfired clay projectiles will generally be one use anyway unless using a soft backstop. So If I want them to be more durable, I will fire them in a stove or kiln.
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  93. Thanks! The square knot braid is interesting, perhaps not suited for this design, but I can see it working well for other slings.
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  94. I recon professional slingers would have accurately slung bullets at a least 100m/s.
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  95. Not that much. Under 100g, including the material trimmed off.
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  96. Not yet.. :)
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  97. The soil has a fair amount of clay in it, which makes it congeal. Clay is what you want.
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  98. Thanks! I'm not entirely sure I will ever get around to selling them in large numbers, as they are time consuming and it's hard on the hands, but we shall see!
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  99. This is a topic for a video alone. I personally think that it wasn’t an issue, otherwise they wouldn’t have used them up until the end. The context of how and when they are deployed, is critical however.
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  100. "Greek style" allows facilitates a shot every 2-3 seconds. Power is reduced below ~3 seconds, because their isn't time to position the throw for max power.
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  101. The holes make a whistling sound if the edge of the hole is crisp, and slung fast enough. It works better with lead projectiles.
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  102. Wait until you hear the "proper" ones... at much higher velocity too. Much appreciated, thanks! There a few different types of projectiles: practice, chemical, incendiary, even some bladed. Most common variation was different bullet weights for different purposes. That's a video all on it's own!
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  103. Thank you for concern. Yes the ground is rather treacherous, but I haven’t injured myself yet!
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  104. Vegetius suggests that they were a supplementary weapon that provides non-ranged infantry with decent ranged capabilities. Use in this context is genius. The problem with them being used by artillery is that if they are shot very long range, hit probability much reduced and they can be collected to be used against you. If the artillery was far in the rear and shooting high, I can see it working, albeit risky (in terms of friendly fire).
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  105. I'm using the FX pocket radar chronograph. (Thanks to Iron Goober for finding it)
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  106. Thank you! Glad you liked it!
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  107. Good old Somerset soil, rather clay rich! Thanks, and glad you enjoyed!!
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  108. Thanks so much!
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  109. Those ‘plumbata’ were more of an experimental concept for a different type of weapon, whereas these are an attempt to gain insight into those used historically.
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  110. Thanks, I'm glad you're giving a go! Esparto must be processed from its raw state, a process similar to flax. Here is a good video detailing that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yUOokXYx1E I've never tried to grow esparto myself, but it grows in a fairly hot and more arid climate. There are different variants yes, but I get the impression that they should work similarly.
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  111. 5 or 7 strands has more control (when using the sling) than 3 strands, and is also much longer lasting.
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  112. Thank you!
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  113.  @DjeauxSheaux  I would like to expand out to other "archaic arms" throughout history, with perhaps more focus on ranged weapons, but we'll see. The shield design you describe is quite curious. I can see them being used in defensive and offensive manner depending on the situation, but I personally have never had any hands-on experience using them, so my insight is fairly limited.
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  114. With any loose fibre, the longer the fibres the better. I work with flax in the same way as this video.
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  115. I never use a hook for a flat braid, but always for a round braid (not for tension, but keeps the cord out of the way).
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  116. They are released point first with spin stabilisation, akin to a rifle bullet. Very accurate and aerodynamic. I’ve covered this in a previous video.
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  117. Let me know how it goes! Always keen to learn about another material for making slings.
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  118.  @aydncura7061  Yes of course, but I'd appreciate acknowledgment. Thanks for checking!
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  119. Thanks Rob! Glad to see you found me. As you’re probably aware, your work has been an inspiration. ;)
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  120. I was wondering when someone would notice! I will make a video about it in the future. I've only seen one other that shoots like this.
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  121. Glad you liked it! definitely more tests down the line, covering impact, etc. Regarding leaning back, they bury about 6” into the ground lead weight included, so the shaft would snap before it leans. (as has happened when accidentally trodding on one)
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  122. Glad you enjoyed it!
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  123. Because of the high forces at play, I find a knot is not sufficient to throw full power. It would have to be very large indeed, and would then cause more drag. I think the solution is just a bit more practice.
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  124. Loose fibre is more difficult to find, but quality materials require a fair bit of searching on the web. Sisal fibre can be extracted from 1ply twisted twine, so its probably the easiest to find. Good hemp and Linen string is easier to find if you include "Yarn" or "warp" in your searches. Esparto is the most difficult, and had to be imported.
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  125. If you want the braid nice and tight, it's certainly hard on the hands, even with callouses!
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  126. Thank you! One day I hope we shall find out. I recon at least 100m/s with bullets, and frightening accuracy.
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  127. I'd say the cord should be at least 1/2" wide.
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  128. I will try and cover this in the tutorial.
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  129. I believe that in ancient times they would have probably used sinew for the cracker. Either that or horsehair, or perhaps even a loop for an easily replaceable cracker.
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  130. Yes this is also a good material, but the best quality stuff is quite hard to find. Normally, I've found there is a fair amount of pith mixed in with the fibres, which is not particularly desirable. I've also yet to find any that isn't treated with mineral oil.
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  131. Interesting point, and definitely a consideration! Vegetius states that in a pinch could be used in the place of archers, which supplemented my curiosity. Definitely more work to be done in the area of how plumbata were used.
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  132. I’ve seen an example of an aboriginal sling made from dogbane, so yes it does work! Basically any fibre that is reasonably strong will work for a sling.
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  133. Making sure the release cord is not too heavy, with a decent sized tassel will help prevent that.
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  134. Met him in person, it was fun slinging with him!
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  135. It certainly is!
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  136. A bit over 70m I believe.
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  137. Cheers, Joe!
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  138. Some sling bullets had holes of the right diameter and depth to make them whistle, making them even more intimidating. Placement of the hole makes a difference as well, and can improve the whistle significantly.
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  139. I suppose you could, if you can get strands fine enough to splice.
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  140. It’s mostly just preference. Sling designs partly vary depending on what materials were available to the culture that made them. A split pouch is ideal for larger stones, as it has very little interference in opening. However, a flat woven pouch will more conveniently seat smaller projectiles. Both can be made to work very well for large and small projectiles.
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  141. Cheers Mersa! It irks me a little bit how close the 5th shot was to making a perfect round... ha!
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  142. Much appreciated!
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  143. Yes, it specifically refers to the design of the sling I use throughout the video.
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  144. Glad you liked it!
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  145. Kevlar doesn't last as long, but has better grip than dyneema. However it absorbs water like a sponge, unlike dyneema which is water-proof.
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  146. Thanks!
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  147. FX pocket radar
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  148. Thanks! I believe it is a ball for dogs. Weighs ~85g (3oz) I think.
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  149. Are both sided of the pouch the same length? If one is longer than the other, that can happen. If that's not the problem, try making the pouch a little smaller.
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  150. Haha cheers! but you not seeing all the misses which would make for a long and lame video. ;)
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  151. Extreme precision takes a lot of time and dedication that's for sure.
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  152. I initially tried a knot, but it doesn't have the grip of a loop, and I couldn't put in a lot of power. There are high forces at play, and the loop combines a low profile with a rock solid grip.
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  153. Funny seeing you here! Send me an email so we can catch up.
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  154. If my arm was stiff, I'd do stretches so that when I sling I don't make it worse. Keep your arm completely loose and let the motion flow, there should no strain in the motion. I haven't done reenacting yet, but it does appeal to me.
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  155. Bat-breaker 9000
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  156. There are a few older videos on my channel showing uncut slinging. The question depends on the context, as there are many variables. The problem of ascertaining how accurate a slinger can be is that there are very few people that are well practiced with a sling, let alone experts, and a lot of these are self taught later in life. We are currently in the stages of reviving how to use slings effectively. If a talented person is taught from childhood by a master, in the most effective and efficient way, then the level of skill displayed will be far beyond anything we currently have. I have taught people to sling fairly effectively in about an hour.
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  157. Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks!
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  158. Thank you sir!
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  159. Most certainly.
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  160.  @robertbrumfitt6548  In the hands of a skilled slinger, yes.
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  161. Thanks!
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  162. Thanks!
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  163. My very first Balearic was made with jute, and yes it did work! The only reason I didn't mention it is because linen and hemp are very similar, but quite a bit stronger and more durable than jute. That said, jute is a lot easier to find for most people. I believe that sinew would have been used in ancient times for the tassel, as you basically want the strongest material available. The main sling material can be used for the tassel , but it has to be repaired now and then if used regularly.
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  164. I'm planning on practicing regularly with dense, consistent ammo, in preparation for something like that in the future.
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  165. Thank you! Very glad you found it worthwhile.
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  166. Soaking might help. When wet, drape the sling over a line or rod as it's drying with the pouch facing down. As the pouch dries in this position, it will set the fibre memory so that the pouch doesn't wont want to spring open as much when loaded. With time the release fingers will develop calluses, but if you have blisters you can wrap them with sports tape and keep slinging. Yes the loose strands can be carefully snipped off with a pair of scissors or nail clippers. I'd personally always add a durable material for the tassel, but that's because I sling hard and it wears out quickly otherwise. If you are a beginner, it shouldn't be such a concern.
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  167. I know that polysteel is a blend of polypropylene and polyethylene. I'm inclined to believe that synthetic hemp is something similar, just finer fibers. I don't know another name or polysteel, but perhaps try Hempex for synthetic hemp. Wish I could help more, but I don't live in the U.S
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  168. Yes that's the basic process. Here's a video showing the process: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yUOokXYx1E With subtitles enabled, it's quite clear. The esparto can then be crushed.
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  169. Why do you think it's subpar?
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  170. I haven't given up, it will be the next video out. Still in the editing process. I hope to have it out by the end of next week! Thank you for your patience.
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  171. Thanks Kick! Aiming to soon do some filming with stones and a metal diana... Can't beat that ring! :)
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  172. I can only speculate, but if they were of a similar caliber to pro pitchers, were talking beyond 500m for initial engagement distance with lead projectiles.
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  173. Yes, apparently nettle fibre is quite like hemp and linen, so I imagine it'd work just as well. Not sure if there are any surviving historical nettle slings, but the people of the past would have done so no doubt!
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  174. Thanks!
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  175. Certainly an intimidating prospect!
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  176. Haha, cheers Pete!
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  177. Underhand is a much weaker throw, so while it won't beat any distance records, it isn't without some merit. It is easy to do, and the dart is more stable immediately after the release.
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  178. Yes it will, just some materials will last longer than others.
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  179. Yes that is correct.
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  180. Very creative! I had some ideas while watching your video: Instead of a string release, have a magnet inside the tube which holds the dart in position until it’s overcome by the acceleration of the cast. That means you can just drop a dart into the tube and throw it. No string means stronger grip on the tube, and less drag on the dart. It also facilitates rapid follow up shots. I recon the darts should be kept as short as possible, as the tube might kick the back end of the dart downwards as it leaves the tube, creating instability and thus drag. Heat bending the tube would also be interesting to test, as the curve is partly how the Jai Alai cesta is able to generate such extreme velocities. Looking forward to your next projects!
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  181. Great stuff. The vertical position of the dart in the tube before the throw is worth experimenting with I think. It the fletch sits just above the hand (in the tube) then the dart will slide the full length of the tube during the throw, giving some tactile feedback. (I imagine helpful if using an auto-release, as you can feel the dart’s position inside and time its exit onto the target)
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  182. If you want maximum speed, make it so that the dart doesn’t want to leave the tube. With all the flinging things I’ve experimented with, if the projectile doesn’t want to leave, more focus can be put on the swing until the inertia is too great and the projectile lets go.
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  183. Sisal or pita (both agave fibres)
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  184. 0:00?
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  185. I wear the loop on the middle phalanx of the middle finger. Make the loop as smooth as possible on the inside, and calluses will eventually develop. Athletic tape wrapped on the finger is a great solution if your skin begins to wear.
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  186.  @zancresnar395  A rounded stone or fine sandpaper with rough materials like esparto. Alternatively you can wrap the loop with soft wool yarn.
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  187. You can make it any length you like. Balearic slings used in competitions just tend to be short than usual.
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  188. It is possible, yes.
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  189.  @mikeg4365  I did yes, but I've improved significantly since then.
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  190. Thanks! I might at some point have to do a part 2, since "tuning" the design is a big topic on it's own. The pouch area should not only be made thicker for longevity, but also weight distribution, and how it effects the release. Each side as thick as the retention cord is good. I actually mostly use seven strands, but five makes a good sling and is better for a video. The more strands used, the smoother the braid, the more durable it is, and the more torsional control you have for a given material.
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  191. Definitely not one shot! Might go back and count how many it took. However, I did do this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwf9HgDpfjc
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  192. Once you get a feel for how it moves, it's not an concern.
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  193. I'd say 100g per sling including excess is a safe bet. Unless made excessively thick, it should be enough material.
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  194. Next time I get the helmet out, I'll try adjusting the set-up.
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  195. When air passes over the hole, it whistles. These ones weren't very loud, so It's best to wear headphones to if you can.
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  196. The main sling material can be used for the tassel, but it has to be repaired now and then (depending on material and how hard it's used). I believe ancient slingers would have used sinew or some other very durable fibre.
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  197. It had crossed my mind!
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  198. Thanks for the feedback.
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  199. Much appreciated! Thanks for watching!
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  200. Thank you very much! I really appreciate to hear it's had a positive impact.
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  201. I make my own.
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  202. Glad you enjoyed it!
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  203. Lead projectiles are denser with a cleaner hole, so they indeed whistle a lot better.
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  204. Interesting! I recall a similar story of a Roman officer in Gaul also getting struck in the face by a sling bullet. Ouch!
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  205. Cheers!
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  206. Yes, the examples shown were of those particular materials. Some are also a bit dirty from use, which makes them look a little different.
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  207.  @MIW02  Folded. I prefer a little longer, but not much. Anything over 130cm is generally considered overlong for maximum distance.
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  208. Thanks! It's definitely very versatile and effective to use on the move. With practice, a full power and accurate shot can be done every 3 seconds, loading from a satchel. A much faster rate of fire can be done when holding the projectiles in the off-hand, but can only be sustained for a handful of shots (if you pardon the pun). Accuracy with good ammo in professional hands should be quite comparable to instinctive archery.
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  209. In that context, I'd just keep the yarns as is. I only extract fibre if the individual fibres themselves are fairly thick, like sisal.
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  210. Haha I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree. The darts do give significant mechanical advantage. I know a few people that can naturally pitch faster than I, despite regularly doing throwing related things.
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  211. Was nice to meet you! If learning to use the sling interests you, I'd be happy to help.
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  212. Haha cheers! Just practice.
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  213. A bit over 70m if I remember correctly.
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  214. I concluded that the loop was best since it is the most secure, combined with a low profile. Other releases like a tassel or a knot can be difficult/impossible to hold onto unless made big enough where drag then becomes a concern.
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  215. Cheers!
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  216.  @FoundWanting970  It's partly conditioning, but technique is the most important. Imagine the body and arm like a whip. A whip does not have sudden stiff sections and hinges that would interfere with acceleration and become points of concentrated stresses. Keeping the muscles loose and relaxed is a good first step.
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  217.  @FoundWanting970  Yes it would be wise to use lighter projectiles first, as heavy projectiles can cause injury if technique is not quite right.
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  218. Would love to see a professional thrower using them also.
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  219. I am quite busy with a backlog currently, amongst other things. I'll try and get back to you when the schedule clears some. I make short, medium, and long. Do you have any particular preferences?
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  220. Haha!
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  221. There are certainly a lot of options for a release assist. At very least, the next time I use them I will have a finger protector to increase comfort, and thus accuracy.
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  222. Thanks! Leather helps prevent the stone from slipping, and protects the braid from abrasion. Rubbing beeswax onto the pouch, has a similar effect, but with less mass and friction.
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  223. Ovoid shaped. I made the projectiles far too light (20-30g) which made it a particularly difficult shot. They need to be 50g at least.
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  224.  @thejackinati2759  Yes it seems the preferred weight by the Romans was 50g. Perhaps it could be that these were used for practice, to save the pricey lead projectiles for war? Suppose it depends on where they're found.
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  225. Thanks for watching!
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  226. Glad you enjoyed!
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  227. Yes that's correct. I do plan on speaking to the camera sometimes for future videos.
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  228. Sorry I must have missed this comment! Yes I make my own slings, my favourite is the Balearic design. If you want to make clay projectiles (like I used in my other video), many ceramic shops sell terracotta clay, which works well, but if you have clay in the ground where you live it's cheaper to dig it yourself. Lead fishing sinkers are a simple substitute for Roman bullets, but I prefer other materials for practice. Hope that helps some!
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  229. I haven't tested them with an atlatl yet, but from other tests an atlatl throw doesn't compete to the speed of a sling throw.
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  230. Here's the first place I'd look: https://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?board=Mall
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  231. I have made ceramic projectiles with proper clay, and they can withstand hits against wood. A perfect stone is better than a ceramic bullet (because it's denser + harder), but perfect stones still differ in weight and shape, and are very rare.
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  232. I do make them, but I don't have any available at this time. Here's a decent place to look if you want to find a maker: https://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?board=Mall
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  233. Yes it does, those elements should covered in the next video.
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  234. Dyneema
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  235. The reason these didn't whistle great is because the hole isn't really positioned correctly, the hole isn't as sharp as on metal bullets, and the velocity may not be as fast, as it was a short sling. A sling in truly professional hands should produce speeds upwards of 100m/s, so the sound of historical whistling bullets would have been very loud indeed.
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  236. The 44 magnum has a comparable momentum to sling bullets, but possesses much higher kinetic energy due to its velocity. The only realistic way to achieve the same momentum of ~5.7kg.ms is to use heavier sling bullets (like imperial Roman bullets in Gaul). A 3oz (85g) projectile at 157mph (70m/s) is quite realistic for an expert slinger with a medium length sling, and is ~6kg.ms. However, because of the 44 Magnum's smaller size and much higher speed, it will do a lot more damage via temporary cavitation and penetration. They cannot really be compared. If I had to go against a grizzly with a sling, I would want something like a 10 oz projectile not 1 oz. ;)
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  237. I have worked with un-spun flax fibre (as shown in video), which should be similar if not the same. It might be worth using a hairbrush to comb out the short fibres, which makes keeping an even braid more simple.
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  238. The slings used in this video are of the specific Balearic design, and the throwing style is also generally called "Balearic style" for it's association with modern Balearic slingers. There will of course be many similarities with other cultures in terms of designs and use, when looking at it in a broader context.
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  239. Never really thought about it. There are a lot of variables, like the steepness of the slope in relation to the velocity (which depends on projectile weight and sling length). I can understand what your getting at though, and it could be an advantageous position.
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  240. Depends on whether your teaching yourself without resources, or being taught by an expert. I've found people can be taught to sling surprisingly quickly. I'd like to give you a number, but there is nowhere near enough data to say conclusively.
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  241. Indeed, however it is quite likely that the design existed in ancient times, by virtue of how traditional crafts were passed down. For example, esparto espadrilles made by traditional makers today, are very similar to archeological finds from thousands of years ago.
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  242. I intend to at some point.
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  243. Haha cheers! I'd like to.
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  244. Thank you! I'll try to do a comprehensive job.
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  245. Slings can warp when there are changes in humidity, and if they get wet, change permanently in stiffness.
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  246. Much appreciated!
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  247. Indeed! I only use it sparingly over the exposed ends. Saturating the braid with the glue would be a big no no!
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  248. Thanks!
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  249. Yes that's right. Some slings are even too loud to use (for me anyway).
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  250. 1 shot every 3 seconds with about maximum power and accuracy is a good pace if it’s practiced a lot. Faster, such as a shot every 2 seconds is doable, but starts to eat into power and accuracy.
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  251. 100g of esparto per sling including excess, is probably a safe bet.
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  252. Cheers Mitch!
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  253. Already have one ready for an upcoming video!
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  254. I suspect very fast indeed! Something I definitely want to see.
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  255. Most took a handful of shots, but sometimes, like 4:50, first shot.
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  256. Teaching oneself takes a lot longer. It's startling how quickly people can learn with a bit of tuition.
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  257. This design is indeed intended to be used with large stones. I agree, I use a lighter thinner sling when using smaller projectiles for the higher velocity, but against ancient armour, heavy stones will be a greater threat through their enormous momentum.
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  258. Cheers!
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  259. I'd say 100g is safe. (taking into account thick or thin, long or short, and excess fibre trimmed off)
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  260. Cheers!
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  261. A bit over 70m.
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  262. Yes, that should work. Super glue is only used very sparingly to make sure the ends can't slip through the braid.
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  263. Haha cheers!
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  264. Glad you thought so. Thank you!
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  265. I believe it's called the knee because the lump looks like a kneecap. The sling also hinges at that point somewhat, a bit like a knee.
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  266. They spin like a bullet.
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  267. Thanks!
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  268. Depends greatly on the weight of projectile and length of sling. The sling power data video on my channel has a few numbers.
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  269. I will make a video with the tunic and cloak, to show in detail.
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  270. Thanks for watching!
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  271. Thank you, I appreciate it!
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  272. Cheers! Yes, rifling is indeed a crucial aspect of slinging, and not often mentioned/known about.
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  273. There are a few online hemp/linen stores in the US, but even I'm looking for a new source of Esparto now.
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  274. Thank you, yes I made it myself. Its the Balearic design, which is my favourite.
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  275.  @lukeriley4628  Yes I plan to make a 3 different videos on Balearic slings, but in the meantime, here is where I learned initially: https://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1382647725/0
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  276. I don't know on average, it depends on whether I'm warmed up or adjusted to the sling I'm using. Several of the clips only took a few throws, the shot at 4:51 took only one!
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  277. Nasty, that's for certain!
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  278. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egQcKc5pF-A
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  279. I suspect professional slingers were slinging bullets at least 100m/s, and very accurately.
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  280. Yes that's right, the release cord tapers to a tassel, and upon release cracks like a whip.
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  281. Thanks for watching!
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  282. 2019, I always liked throwing things, and they've been fairly supportive haha.
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  283. Try to use it without effort. Trying to force the projectile forward just leads to injury, I learned the hard way when I was teaching myself.
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  284. I agree, the artists would have likely depicted that which is familiar to them. Slings can vary a lot from culture to culture.
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  285. There are very simple ones, and some more advanced. For the latter, you might be interested in my previous video.
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  286. Once you develop the coordination, it feels apart of you. That's one of the reasons it's very important to initially learn with something safe. One should also be careful if swapping between sling lengths because where they rotate changes.
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  287. Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!
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  288. I've done this before with heavier, thicker darts, but not these ones. The problem with this concept and with David's kestrosphendone is that when the dart is thrown hard, it fishtails very hard due to angular momentum. It should work well with these new darts though, and will definitely be experimented with again.
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  289. Definitely a topic for another video!
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  290. Thank you!
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  291. Yes that's right. 2:1 length:width ratio is common, but even 3:1 can be reliably stabilised with the right setup.
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  292. South-West England. Thanks for watching!
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  293. The end of sling, yes.
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  294. I’ve played around with different sizes and depths, but but 4mm hole 5-6mm deep is what the Romans used.
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  295. It's a different weapon. These darts don't require a sling to be launched, which makes consecutive throws much more rapid compared to the kestrosphendon.
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  296. I don't have any available at this time. Here's the a place I'd look: https://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?board=Mall
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  297. The general principle of the throw remains the same, but the motion of the arm is more extended. Long, thin slings have further range, but most noticeably, long slings can sling heavy projectiles faster.
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  298. There was some experimentation with hole placement, to test how it effects the sound.
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  299. I sent you a reply quite a while back. Have you not received it? @colemcmullen1111 
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  300. Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
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  301. Yes that's right. Most only take a few throws, but sometimes like the shot at 4:51, only take one!
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  302. I made it out of canvas + paint. 50cm circle 120cm Square
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  303. Never tried it. If it's fairly strong, it'll sling!
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  304. In the context of ancient Mediterranean empires, I don't think it's really a concern. Weapons of war could be made to supply the need during wartime, and materials such as lead were abundantly used even outside of warfare. If anything, one could argue that these darts are better "bang for your buck" so to speak compared to normal plumbata, or heavy lead sling bullets, as they'd have better terminal ballistics. I can certainly appreciate that specialised weapons of war may not survive the rise and fall of civilisations, given that they have little purpose off the battlefield.
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  305. Thanks, I'll have a look!
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  306. Trying to figure it out on your own can take a long time, but if you watch experienced slingers and stay open minded about improving technique, progress can be made quite quickly. Here's a video to learn the very basics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4-LpLtrGqs
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  307. I prefer it to the bow, but there are pros and cons between them.
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  308. That's an expensive shot to get!
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  309. I make my slings with a thick enough tassel so that it isn't annoyingly loud. Otherwise, it can be deafening.
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  310. Thanks for watching!
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  311. I'm planning out a more in depth video.
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  312. I do so with the fabricated projectiles, but when I comes to stones, the best I can do is +-5g as even great ones vary a lot.
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  313. It's apparently similar to hemp and linen, so it would work very well.
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  314. There are indeed, many things to test in the future...Lots of types of projectiles, lots of types of targets and armour, etc.
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  315. I recommend headphones, as it makes them a lot more audible.
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  316. While a unfletched dart would stabilise, fletchings make it stabilise much faster, so it retains it's energy a lot better.
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  317. Yesterday I posted a video of just that, but using better whistle-shot! https://www.youtube.com/shorts/tuoysk40t_k
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  318. Somewhere in South-West England...
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  319. Yes having a dedicated range with firm ground is the dream!
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  320. Don't worry, we ate it afterwards and it didn't even taste great!
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  321. Haha I suppose it was a bit close.
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  322. I unravel the rope into the single twist strands, then soak a bundle of them, then use a strong hairbrush to brush out the short fibres.
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  323. I've read and seen a picture of native American sling made from dogbane, so I gather that would work as well!
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  324. Thank you sir!
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  325. Glad you enjoyed it!
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  326. If what you're braiding is slippery, then rubbing wax on it makes it easier to work with. However, if you're using it to protect the fibres against abrasion, melting the wax onto the braid afterwards "glues" the fibres together and is a lot more durable.
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  327. It doesn't slip through the split because of how it sits, and inertia keeps the projectile in the pouch during wind-up.
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  328. Apparently I had a knack for Javelin in middle school, so yes I’d be interested in doing some tests with them as well! I also have a plumbata, the correct weight too.
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  329. Gave me a laugh!
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  330. Thank you!
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  331. Cheers! I believe the sling in this video was 24" from ring to middle, but nowadays I only use 29" (almost kisses the floor when held with arms down) for target work. If the sling is longer than that proportion, then it starts to require a different technique.
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  332. Stones are anywhere up to ~500g Lead bullets up to ~120g depending on the period and place, but generally half the weight or less.
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  333. Thank you!
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  334. Coming soon on Mersa Slinging... ;)
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  335. If you don’t find any there, I’d recommend going over to slinging.org, where there are some contacts. If in the future I have some available, I can contact you if you want.
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  336. Indeed, it didn't pass me by!
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  337. You can do it with other fingers, middle finger is just most common, and great all-round.
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  338. Thanks!
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  339. Un-spun linen/flax fibre is what I mean.
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  340. It's a waxed linen sling, "Jaegoor style" Balearic. The cord ends in a loop, and the grip can be easily be replaced or customised. Unfortunately it's construction is complex and quite difficult to explain.
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  341. That's why I lean towards the idea that slingers could carry a bundle of these into battle. They'd be already deployed with enough room to use them. I've tried overhand throws, but it's not as easy with a bundle of darts in the off-hand.
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  342. Headphones help a lot, but next time I will use metal bullets that whistle a lot louder.
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  343. Many thanks!
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  344. Think around 200g would be a good weight for these darts. Someone trained with these, and of his caliber, could probably throw an optimised dart of that weight ~300 J. It's a very curious thought as to how they could have fitted in amongst the other missile weapons of the ancient battlefield.
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  345. Thanks Joe!
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  346. Cheers!
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  347. I bought it a while a go, and on the search for somewhere in stock. I assume you have raw esparto? It is not suitable for sling making. It must first be processed, similar to flax. Here is a good video showing that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yUOokXYx1E
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  348. https://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?board=Mall There are few people that make them for sale, but I always recommend learning to make them yourself, as it is most rewarding.
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  349. Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks!
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  350. I've seen it stocked by a few online rope stores.
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  351. Kevlar is second best. Nylon is much more common, and can also work, just wont last as long as the stronger fibres.
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  352. Go ahead! What website might I ask?
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  353. Sorry for the delay, I got mine from cheaprope.co.uk.
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  354. Sorry I missed this comment somehow. I don't train everyday, but I try to get in a decent session every week. The sling design is not that crucial, but more a matter of preference.
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  355. Cheers! Esparto grass is the material in question.
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  356. Jute is sort of similar to linen but less strong. It will make a functional sling.
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  357. It's actually not as good as it looks, certainly for pottery. I pick out the rocks and roots while I make them, and it doesn't harden when fired. Not sure how it would behave purified though.
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  358. Around 1m is a decent place to start for a distance sling length, but they must be used with even greater caution, since inexperienced user can send a stone fast and far in a direction they don't want it to...
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  359. I am glad!
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  360. Indeed, and these are the low end of the "scare factor". When I revisit this at some point, they will be a lot faster and louder.
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  361. Cheers! ~50m/s (~165fps) using a 24" sling. Next one will be much higher velocity.
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  362. Projectiles should be released with the point facing the target, how he sling is orientated can be manipulated with the position of the hand (i.e pronated or supinated) at, and approaching the point of release. The projectile should fly spinning like a bullet towards the target, as can be seen in the slow motion clips.
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  363. @@kitsmashing3267 Unfortunately those clay ones aren't nearly as loud as lead projectiles (mostly due to construction), and yes they could be going faster. I used a fairly short, 24" sling and it output about a little over 50m/s with those projectiles. Revisiting the project with metal projectiles, and sending them 70+m/s, would make a huge difference!
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  364. A lot of it is personal preference. Balearic slings used in competitions are generally shorter, about an arms length or less.
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  365. Thanks for watching!
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  366. It's important to practice with something safe first, to develop a feel for how it moves. Once coordination is established, there isn't any real risk to the user. Someone less experienced should be careful though when changing slings. Broken skin on the loop finger is probably the most common, as it's caused by rubbing.
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  367. Yes, the end of release cord can break the sound barrier.
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  368. Thank you sir!
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  369. Glad your enjoying them!
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  370. Yes you can, but it’s more to unravel it all.
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  371.  @swe-4561  It shouldn't matter much, I used 10mm and it worked ok.
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  372.  @Hadrada.  About the length of your arm is a good place to start. I'd say most popular nowadays is ~24"-28" from loop to pouch middle.
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  373. Made me chuckle.
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  374. Go ahead!
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  375. It depends on the length, but for a 28" sling I do 3 wingspans for each thread. Material still needs to be spliced in at the pouch section to add thickness, even if you don't need to splice when braiding the cords.
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  376. Glad you enjoyed it! Situated in South--West England
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  377. Kevlar is ideal for the cracker. Even though it's less strong, I've been using it recently because it's grippy. This means the splice can then be made longer without compromising grip. Making the entire sling out of Kevlar is overkill though, and it's a real sponge for moisture.
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  378. Indeed quite possibly. The design is called "Balearic" nowadays as it is the popular design amongst modern day Balearic slingers.
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  379. We ate it after it split open.
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  380. Thanks, but I've still got a lot to learn. Expert slingers in the past would have been phenomenal!
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  381. Yes it is quite similar. A large part of the skill is learning to accelerate and control the sling as if its apart of you.
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  382. I was using a 2ft sling in this video, so the velocity is ~50m/s (164fps), but I can sling them ~80m/s (260fps) with a longer sling.
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  383. Esparto grass is the material in question. It is quite a difficult material to source.
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  384. 17:03
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  385. Depends on who's using it, and the length of sling. It increases the power dramatically compared to throwing by hand. Fastest I've clocked was 82m/s (183mph) with a ~41.4g projectile and a 48" sling. A pro pitcher skilled with a sling would generate unbelievable speeds.
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  386. Difficult to estimate, but I'd wager at least 150mph with a short sling.
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  387. Did you receive my reply via email a good while back?
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  388. Two seconds between shots is doable, but a shot every 3 seconds is more accurate. Two slings at the same time is a gimmick, and not nearly as effective as one.
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  389.  @woutvanostaden1299  One sling in one hand loading from an ammo pouch can consistently get off 1 accurate shot every three seconds. Two shots is quite difficult loading from a pouch, but under two seconds can be achieved by holding the projectiles in the off-hand. So a short but rapid burst of shots is possible.
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  390. The length that almost touches the ground when held down, is a good medium length sling. There are some contacts over at slinging.org, but if some of my own become available, I can notify you, if you wish.
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  391. Very observant! I think you heard the flying ring projectile.
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  392. Headphones make a big difference. Metal ones whistle a lot more than these.
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  393. Glad you like them!
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  394. Thank you, glad to hear it!
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  395. Natural fibres absorb water and react to humidity, Which changes effects their stiffness and can lead to warping. If a sling warps, then soaking it in water and straightening it will correct it. However, as the swelled braid dries, the extra room in the braid, combined with resetting of fibre memory makes it a lot more pliable.
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  396. Did that at the international last year, and hit the former champion in the shoulder (about 30m away) giving him a black bruise with all the colours of the rainbow. Even tennis balls are questionably safe when slung at each other at high speeds.
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  397. Cheers! Yeah I think was about that distance.
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  398. Thanks. Yes I'd like to have a camera behind plexiglass next time I try this, and actually aim at it long range.
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  399. When making a sling with string, I start with strands that are long enough for the whole sling. To bulk the pouch, I splice in shorter strands because they only need to be long enough for the pouch and belly section.
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  400. You can try, but I think the paracord is too thick to braid and splice nicely. I prefer thin yarns or loose fibre.
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  401. Yes, however it is likely the projectile will be knocked out of the pouch after a single strike.
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  402.  @aydncura7061  I believe I get my maximum velocity with ~40g projectiles with a long sling. 20-60g favours velocity over the greater kinetic energy of heavier projectiles. What would you like to know about them specifically?
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  403. Thank you! Much appreciated.
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  404. Thanks!
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  405. Thank you!
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  406. I used to make a bundle of twine ~2ft long and use a hair brush to pull out the short fibres.
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  407. The ground around where I live has a decent amount of clay in it. Clay is what to look for.
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  408. Glad you liked it! Cheers!
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  409. If its left as twine, then the sling cords might have a tendency to warp. Warped cords can be remedied by straightening them while wet, but the cord may lose the original stiffness as it dries.
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  410. How much cord sticks out from the hand effects the release. If it sticks out a lot, the release will be delayed. So it's length changes over time, you'll have to adapt to the change. In my opinion, either a permanent or replaceable cracker are the best options if you sling a lot.
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  411. Thank you! People mention David, but no I haven't been called that haha.
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  412. Glad you enjoyed, cheers!
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  413. Projectiles with very different roles. Mina stones have a huge amount of concussion, so good against shields and heavy armour. A 4oz lead bullet will have a lot of punch for it's weight, and will have very superior range.
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  414. Depends on the length and user. I personally can get over 60m/s with a 28" sling like this.
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  415. Thanks!
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  416. 13" from the middle of finger-loop to the middle of pouch.
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  417. Yes I've done that, but it's expensive and unnecessary. It also a very slick material.
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  418. There were a few things not ideal with this test. The hole is the right size and depth for the Roman ones, but the edge of the hole is not sharp and that certainly doesn't help. Hole placement and angle varies a lot on ancient sling bullets. Some on the nose of the projectile, some in the middle, some straight in, and some drilled at an angle. I've done several tests and the clay projectiles for this video whistled better: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/tuoysk40t_k Metal projectiles at a higher velocity (using a longer sling) are much louder, and I plan to do a video about these.
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  419. They can be used in both ways.
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  420. Thanks, and well observed! Apart from the one shot into the sunset where I used a thin dyneema sling, all the rest were braided Balearic slings. I do prefer this design for target practice with larger stones as it handles and controls them well. However, whenever I'm using small projectiles I'll use a sling a lot thinner, lighter, and typically longer. (for increased velocity)
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  421. It certainly would be an interesting experiment! A big stone cant penetrate like an arrow, but has lots more momentum even if they have the same amount of kinetic energy. A square-on helmet shot would be lights out, that's for sure.
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  422. Not if it gets stuck, but in the wind-up it's possible to get a glancing bonk if learning or not careful during length adjustment.
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  423. With practice, a pro baseball pitcher could make a supreme slinger. The potential for incredible power and accuracy is there, waiting.
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  424. Glad you enjoyed it!
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  425. I suppose accuracy is like throwing a rock by hand but higher velocity. Pitchers can very accurate throwing by hand, so the same can be done with the sling. I'm not sure how long it would take to teach someone to be point accurate. Self taught without any resources can take a long time.
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  426. Cheers! Here's a video of some sling power data I collected a while ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpcFYMB8Owg 82m/s (183mph) with a 41g stone is the fastest I've measured so far.
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  427. I'm glad. Thanks for watching!
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  428. Thank you! In that vein, yes.
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  429. And at the other extreme, if one practices with anything but consistency, they will struggle to develop a consistent technique. A bit of variety provides more wholesome development, but when very experienced, precision is only maximised through specialisation.
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  430. I think it makes most sense to get slingers to practice with them, since they will take to them faster than anyone else. Slingers could then take a bundle of darts into battle along with their slings and stones/bullets.
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  431. Some people I know have played sling golf, apparently it's a lot of fun! I've always thought Golf-Cross would be perfect with slings.
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  432. Turns the sling from a musket into a rifle!
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  433. I used it a fair amount for my first slings, but not any longer. I believe there are better alternatives, especially in this application.
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  434. Thank you!
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  435. I found in my experiments that the loop was better since it is the most secure, combined with a low profile. Other styles of release like a tassel or a knot can be difficult/impossible to hold onto unless made big enough where drag then becomes a concern.
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