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I'm a year late, but I don't care. I've become a real obsessive about this story--I'm sure I've seen at least 50 videos about it. This is only the second comment I've read that understands the first comment the boy makes: I THINK his exact words are: "Backpacks--you bring come inside?" He clearly says "inside," but every news reporter assumed he would be asking if they could out, so they chose to hear it as "outside" and then just made up the rest of the quote. I assumed they must have food in the backpacks, but a quite good book about the rescue says there was water, but no food.
This is the first comment that points out the cam/come confusion--I missed that. Thank you.
Almost everyone, including diver Volanthen, misunderstood "What day?" too. The boy did NOT ask "What day is it?" They had a watch that was still working and the boys knew what day and time it was and how long they'd been in the cave. Adul was responding to the "Many people are coming...." with "What day?", meaning "When" are these people coming? Stanton understands it this way and responds "Tomorrow." Volanthen misunderstands, so a few minutes later Adul tries again and says "What day you come help me?" At first Volanthen misunderstands again, but finally realizes what he means and says "Tomorrow."
I realize that at this point nobody cares about any of this except me, but I just wanted to say it anyway. Bless them all.
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@Dog Faced Pony Soldier The cave did stink! That was how they were found. When the divers came out of the water the boys were up at the top of the slope, around the corner , out of sight. ( This video begins a few moments later, after the boys, hearing voices, came down). The divers sniffed the air and smelled what they assumed were dead bodies--they had little hope that the boys were still alive. The coach had dug a hole for use as a latrine, but after 10 days, with 13 people using it the smell was pretty rank. At that point that was the least of anyone's worries. They did, by the way, drink the water flowing at the bottom of the cave. They may have drunk some water dripping down the walls, but the story of them relying on that is a myth. (Source: "Against All Odds," by Dr. Richard Harris and Craig Challen). Another misconception: when the diver asked "How many are you," he already knew. They had counted the boys as they came down the slope. It was "Brilliant!," though!
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Wow! What a coincidence! It was 6 boys, and they were from Tonga, but I read about that just today, April 22, in the New York Times, in the obituary of Peter Warner, the Australian captain who happened upon them and rescued them after 15 months. An amazing story indeed, and I'm surprised I never heard it before--I guess the story was better known in Australia. It must be the same story, despite some details being a little different from your version, but the main point was the same as yours, how it differed from "Lord of the Flies," with which it was compared.The boys organized and cooperated and managed to thrive until their rescue. They'd been long since given up for dead and it was a national sensation in Tonga when they were recovered. Ironically, the owner of the boat they stole was not amused, and had them arrested. Their rescuer compensated him and they were released, and they worked on Warner's boat as crew for years afterwards.
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The late record producer John Hammond was also a Vanderbilt. His mother was a great-granddaughter of the Commodore. Very famous in his day, he is credited with "discovering," or least being an early champion of, Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, Aretha Franklin, and many, many more, including many renowned Jazz and Blues musicians. His son of a similar name, once a modestly famous blues musician, was, of course, also a Vanderbilt descendant.
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@planetdisco4821 Following the links from the Times obit of Peter Warner, which I couldn't link to here for some reason, I read that movie rights were sold last year, by Warner, the four surviving castaways, and Rutger Bregman, so a movie may eventually be made. Bregman (I've never heard of him), a historian, apparently published an article in the Guardian last May which was very popular and revived interest in the story, leading to the movie sale. Reading the Guardian article about the movie sale, though, I get the feeling that political correctness will keep the movie from ever being made. Certain people are voicing concern that any potential movie be made by Pacific Islanders and reflect and respect Tongan values and culture etc. etc. In other words, they don't want a Hollywood movie. Unfortunately for them, Hollywood has the money to make such a movie, so we'll see.
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Funny thing about Argentina: I can't speak for all Americans, just most of us---we never think about Argentina at all. When it comes to Argentine presidents, a few of us could name Juan Peron, mostly because of Evita, but they're dead (I think). There was some other woman , I think, sometime later, but I have a feeling that ended badly too, and that might have been Brazil. Beyond that nada. You had some stupid war with England, but that was quite a while ago. There were a couple of pretty good tennis players once. Beyond that, there are something called the pampas, with lots of cows that yield good beef. I know there's a city called Buenos Aires, whose main distinction is that it's not Rio de Janeiro, it's the other one. That's it. (Oh, there might be some famous soccer players from Argentina also, but that might be Brazil too, and we don't care anything about soccer). We have nothing against you. On the whole, if we ever thought about you, our feelings would probably be generally favorable. (That Nazi stuff was a long time ago, and, again, that might have been Brazil, Or even Paraguay. Don't get me started on Paraguay. Or Uruguay. Compared to them, you're France, so you can be proud of that.) So if you think there's something notable about your president, please let us know. It never hurts to keep informed.
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@Channelscruf It's always going to be a fuzzy topic, subject to personal interpretation, but I don't think it's accurate to call a ruler--a monarch or a political leader, even a religious leader--a "celebrity." I don't think we should call Mohammed, or Kublai Khan, or Alexander the Great a celebrity. Your opinion may differ. Also, speaking of the pharaohs, I don't believe their celebrity, if you want to call it that, extended beyond Egypt and those who were their subjects. The rest of the world didn't know they existed. Oddly, I think it might be fair to call Tutankhamen, after the discovery of his tomb, a celebrity, but of the twentieth century, not his own time.
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Spooky! Just yesterday I finished rereading his book "Spangle," (first time in 25 or 30 years), and thought , "Maybe I'll reread "Aztec" next." Happily, I don't have to look any further than my bookcase. Great book, but, yes, very long. Sadly, the sequel, "Aztec Autumn," or something like that, is very disappointing.
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Thai is strange that way, mostly because there is no universally accepted way of rendering Thai words in English orthography. Even street signs in Thailand which give city names, for example, in English can vary. Pattaya, for instance, can just as easily be Phattaya on traffic signs. Sawatdee, the very common word for hello or welcome is sometimes seen as sawasdee. Try pronouncing the name of Bangkok's main airport, usually seen as Suvarnabhumi, the way that Thais do. And someone please explain to me why the name of one of the famous "cave boys," apparently pronounced Tern, is sometimes spelled Tle.
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