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Comments by "Anders Juel Jensen" (@andersjjensen) on "Hi-Point YC-9 Yeet Cannon at the BUG Match" video.
Considering he has shown up at the range with the most archaic contraptions, some approaching a century old, and STILL beaten half the pack, I'd just take it as a sign of my skill that he at least did it with a NEW gun.
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Just out of curiosity, as I only know the US gun market as Ian presents it to me, what would it ballpark cost, all stamps and fees included, to own a new C9 in 9mm and a box of ammo, big enough to load the magazine after a few practice shots (so maybe 20rds or whatever size they come in).
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There are certain kinds of tools where I look for "the Hi-Point equivalent" because I expect to use them rarely and without passion. I don't live in the US, so carry guns are an alien concept to me, but if I did it would probably be something very similar. It should take 9mm, be able to hit a torso at 15 meters, be relatively small and not cost much, while being reliable enough that I can count on it for as long as I haven't clapped it out.
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@JohnPublic-dk7zd I don't mean this as a politically loaded question as I'm not a US citizen, and I'm a firm believer of every country sticking to an "I do me, and you do you"-style mantra. Just making that abundantly clear up front. I simply can't wrap my head around your situation in any meaningful capacity. I served for 17 years, was deployed in Bosnia, Kosovo and Afghanistan and I have killed in the line of duty. So I'm not coming at this from an "I'm scared of defending myself" agnle. Not at all. What completely rattles my tin-can here is the utilitarian conclusion that a gun in every room is a solution.. for where.. you.. live. Not a short term thread assessment that just needs to be dealt with. But you.. live.. in a house.. with your family.. in a place.. where guns in every room seems like a practical solution to the thread profile around you. The questions that keeps screaming in my head are "Why haven't you packed your shit and gotten the fuck out of dodge yet, soldier?" and "When do you ever get to breathe without the feeling of having a baby elephant sitting on your chest?"
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@helmsscotta I know you're trying to be cheeky, but I find that absurdly inappropriate. When you're deployed to a combat theatre you're not "visiting on the government's tab". You're there to suppress enemy combatants and protect non-combatants to the best of your ability. Because that's your job as a professional soldier. You don't LIVE there. You're DEPLOYED there. And you're (ideally) rotated as frequently as the stress level of the situation requires. In Bosnia and Kosovo the main stressers weren't direct combat engagements, but rather having to clean up the village slaughters the asshats left behind, if we didn't get there in time to prevent them. In Afghanistan the main stresser was never being able to tell hostiles from non-hostiles, the constant threat of IEDs and to a lesser extend the direct engagements. But as should be evident from my question, which wasn't addressed to you in the first place, I'm inquiring about what it's like to have normalized what I've only experienced as abnormality that needs to be compartmentalized for a manageable interval at a time. I already conceded that I'm used to temporary threat management, so I'm really not sure what you were trying to get at here?
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@shred1894 Thank you! Finally someone answering what I'm actually asking. With the way you describe it I think I got some clarity on the mental aspect I couldn't grasp: To you guys it's much more in the vein of "The roads here are really bad, so I bought 4 extra spare wheels, you know, just in case. Probably won't need them, but if I do it will be more convenient than having to wait for a tow truck" than where I was coming from, which was closer to "I'm living in an active combat zone, and constantly having my weapon on me hinders quality time with the wife, so we'll just make sure there's a firearm within reach everywhere". Thanks again. It was the reference frame I couldn't get right. But it makes sense. When firearms are sold in super markets they become "spare tires" or "a hammer" and you start thinking of the problems they can solve in a similar utilitarian way. That was the key part that wouldn't dawn on me.
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@shred1894 Ah.. yes.. the last paragraph makes a lot of sense. On guard duty we wear the rifle across the chest for the express reason to remind anyone that we have it.
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@bertroost1675 I live in a country with very strict gun laws, and I don't want that to change. Even the criminals knows better than "to introduce a firearm to the situation". The police here don't expect every situation to potentially involve a firearm, and act accordingly, but the second some bonehead actually does (every 7 years or whatever), the whole city goes into "GTA 5 star wanted" mode and it never ever ends well for them.
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LOL Ian! I like how you carefully explained that Hi-Point is not pretentious about what they sell.... after presenting a gun with "Yeet Cannon" stamped into the slide... I won't pretend to know the first thing about US pistol brands, but I will admit that the name of the gun had already led me on to the fact that Hi-Point is not the Korth of the US.
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Salesman: "What do you mean you just want a hammer without laser aim, spirit level or double-action harmonic dampener? You gon' regret that right away, son! Trust me, after 20 thousand blows you'll have hit your thumb, made the wall crooked and your arms will feel like painful lead". Customer: "If I ever have to drive more than ONE nail in at the time, I'm going to call the professionals!"
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Matt is a smart-arse gun-nut. People who aren't into "gun culture" but need "a hammer where the had don't come lose, nothing more, nothing less" due to their situation should have an option that is just that. Nothing more and nothing less. And from reading the comment section it certainly looks like Hi-Point is precisely that. A gun. That shoots straight. When you need it to. At an approachable price point. Snobs will always turn their nose up at that. Because snob is just another word for narrow minded.
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