Comments by "Ikenga Spirit" (@ikengaspirit3063) on "Stefan Milo" channel.

  1. The only literary evidence we have to that is like later than almost all our earliest evidences for iron use in West Africa, like in Central Africa and Nigeria we have as old as 2000 BC. So it is just as likely that if the Phoenicians traded early with them, they got the Iron tech from West Africa.
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  2. By the time if the Iron Age the Sahara was mostly desert and Semi Desert.
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  3.  @davidsquall351  did Odin reveal this to you in a dream as well?.
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  4. Cuz, we are.
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  5.  @DIREWOLFx75  eh, I think they haven't gotten enough for south to north cuz they haven't done enough research. Recent Polish researchers have also shown cattle domestication happened quite early in Africa, around 10,000 years ago in Sudan these were probably spread by migrants.
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  6. Cuz, we iz.
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  7.  @mitchcumstein9808  my God man, if you don't know African history don't argue it. The wheel is a relatively simple invention, everybody had it or had a neighbour that had it. The Incas and Maya had it as we can see from evidence from Pre-columbian toys but didn't use it much, same with most of Africa as we can see with like the ancestral Akan royal cart. Like Africa having an Iron age is well accepted since the 1800s, if not even earlier and many of them discovered steel earlier than Europe, enough that West Africa in general except for specialized tolls didn't trade with Europe for Iron.
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  8.  @mitchcumstein9808  I am talking Sub-Saharan Africa. The Akan are a Ghanian ethnicity. I used the Inca and Maya as examples of people that had the wheel but where it isn't obviously visible in the archeology, as it was with most Sedentary Sub-Saharan Africa whether West or South Africa.
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  9. Very possible but undetectable.
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  10. Again, the time Frame doesn't work and this is something we have known since the earlier 1900s. The Early Iron Age in East Africa is much later than West Africa, so it didn't start there and the other evidences of migrations imply that it is either Bantu, Meroitic, Indonesian or some combination that brought Iron there. Iron also doesn't really survive that long so we get our evidences for Iron always indirectly. The evidences for Iron in West Africa are like before 2000 BC in Central Africa and around 2000 BC in several sites in Southern Nigeria. If the Phoenicians traded with them at the early 1000 BCs, it is as possible that the Phoenicians got it from them, given that Iron technology was probably guarded much more secretively than the early Iron Age Empires than supposedly African Tribes. And stop using Eugenics in your argument. That is an extremely indirect way of proving your point, as even if their Brains ar smaller, it could always just be that your assumption that it is too small to invent anything is wrong. Get more direct evidence on what they actually did or didn't do.
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  11. Nah, that is definitely Indo-European achievements. Looting from the Atlantic to the Indian Ocean.
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  12.  @glennabate1708  "strange there were no iron age cultures in Africa" How to say you haven't read anything about African history or archeology without saying you haven't read anything about African history or archeology.(well, aside from Egypt).
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  13.  @theidioticbgilson1466  No, there is argument that the wood is old but Old wood argument isn't used anywhere else but Africa. If the wood in Lejja could be old, why can't the wood in Anatolia and why would Lejja only use Old Wood?. Anyways Augustine Holl also dug up and dates rusted iron from central Africa that's similarly old so this old wood argument should die already.
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  14. Yeah, the fact that people citing old wood problem don't do more research to confirm shows they are more concerned about proving the consensus than getting to facts.
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  15.  @Tugela60  I am mentioning this because I have read papers on dating say, the piece of iron we got West of the Urals from I think, 3rd millenia BC and none of the criticisms of it was "old wood". Which paper have you actually read that dated the charcoal and went, "probs, old wood", from Eurasia?.
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  16. Did Odin reveal that to you in a dream?
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  17. I think you are over estimating how few people have to migrate to pass it on. In theory only one person but that one person isn't an average sample of the population, that one person probably isn't a merchant for example and may not be warrior elite/hunter either.
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  18. I mean, makes sense, our current ideas are backed up by centuries of consensus indirect evidence.
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  19. Claiming so doesn't make it reality. Several constructions south of the Sahara like the moat-and-wall of Benin and Sungbo's Eredo moved more earth than the Great Wall of China, talkless of the pyramids that make people like you claim Maya and Aztecs were "great".
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  20. Yeah
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  21. Camelids are native to America not the Camel species itself.
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  22.  @rolandsalomonsson3854  destroyed the Zimbabwe culture? You realize that the cultural sites considered Zimbabwean like great Zimbabwe or Khami were built by Bantus right?. And that the people on most of the region before the Bantus were hunter-gatherers(and some Forager-Pastoralists) so, didn't occupy prime framing environment like the Bantu did, right?.
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  23.  @rolandsalomonsson3854  First time I have heard someone say DNA points to Khoe-San. Only thing I seen before is heard is Kalanga/Shona associated. Like come on, Zimbabwe style buildings continued to be built all the way to Portuguese arrival and the Portuguese didn't report Bantus driving out Khoe-San.
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  24. Lol, funny Troll.
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  25. UNESCO's general history of Africa, while old is probably the best summary I can recommend
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  26. Yes, Milo isn't White.
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  27. Bro literally just gave you the evidence in summary. But I guess u too stupid to understand what the word "evidence" is.
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  28. So like, they learnt it from Africans? That makes sense. I do doubt they made it past the canaries, I haven't heard of the European Atlantic Megalithic having cultural remains there and the currents are very dangerous but I guess it is plausible.
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  29. I don't buy it. If it was one site it might make sense but we have several sites and we are talking tropical Africa here not temperate to desert south Africa. A dead tree will decay fairly rapidly.
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  30.  @Tugela60  Yeah, in the TROPICAL Savannah. The climate and biome is still different and leadwood doesn't penetrate deep into tropical Savannah. Okay, let me assume ur right for hardwood always being centuries to millenia old. to Then, why don't archeologists front date metal refining furnace from other parts of the world to fit this old hardwood problem?.
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  31.  @JcoleMc  There is no reason to respond by bringing up that some used the wheel. Basically everybody knew of the Wheel just not everybody had a use of it. If the OP was more specific to a type of wheeled vehicle he may be correct but everybody had the wheel, we see its use in Angola pre-colonially but only for a ritual to move the recently deceased King's Sarphofigus around and use in toys across the continent, mainly West Africa that they didn't use it as frequently as Europe did for transportation is evidence that like most of the near east, mesoamerica, Andes and more, beasts of burden were more efficient than wheels which would make sense to anyone that remembers wheeled vehicles need roads to function well, while beasts of burden don't.
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  32. Then why are you writing it instead of just doing what you claimed you would do.
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  33.  @shaolin1derpalm  You clearly care enough to write a comment and think up a rationalization. I don't waste time doing that for stuff I don't care about, like say, no one's gonna find me writing anything on some YouTube pop song.
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  34. Source or I assume this was revealed to you in a dream.
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  35. Eh, Europe could have been early tho less Euro more trans-ural Siberia as some iron impliment was discovered west of the Urals but it's dating in the initial paper isn't believed by most.
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  36. But no, Colonialism wasn't so destructive as to erase that and modernization is causing just as much destruction probably. The evidence provided by Augustine Holl would suffice in any other region than Africa.
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  37.  @spvillano  I thought we were talking about the impact on historical knowledge and not the impact on quality of life. Modern expansion destroys archeological record, corrupts oral traditions and deprioritizes local ways of recording the past, even before locals adopt the modern historical method.
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  38. Can you remember the source now?
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  39. Camelids in general, not Camels specifically.
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  40. It wasn't entirely green tho,
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  41. No
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  42. You clearly wrote enough to write something and more importantly, Who asked?.
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  43. The best imperial age.
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  44. This is actually very true and compounded by the acidic soil, heat and wetness of much of tropical Africa. That is why we detect the transition to iron in Sub-Saharan Africa largely by when stone tools are replaced by handles for iron tools and dated rust, than actual iron impliment themselves. The drier near east and Egypt should have less of this issue tho, so they might not escape scrutiny with with explanation, especially if handles with clearly rust in tool shape isn't found.
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  45. Much too late for the time frame.
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  46. No, the video focused on Sub-Saharan Africa, specifically Central African Republic so I guess you didn't watch the video. And yes, Europe and Asia are the same continent.
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  47. But this research isn't coming from Western ideologically driven historians like Belcher. They tend to Concentra in literary fields trying to claim everyone was actually LGBTQ+.
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  48. More, both.
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  49.  @holgerjahndel3623  whoa, whoa can you give me more info on that myth of a sunken isle in the gulf of guinea?
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  50.  @pezvonpez  They deny human origin in Africa too but not only them, also some Congolese nationalists do.
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