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@binaryvoid0101 Two men Embracing each other isn't necessarily sexual. In your attempt to prove that homophobia is imported you have used an imported concept of love as your evidence. Like no, men hugging each other isn't considered gay in my tradition, men loving each other platonically more than the people they love romantically also isn't considered weird (unlike in the modern West), like people slept communually near naked. Africans aren't as scared of physical contact as Euros. And I bet your source for this is from the West. Because it reminds of when one Blecher was trying to claim that because a Medieval Tawehedo Nun kissed the members of her convent and said she loved them she was a lesbian and the Tawehedo Church and other Ethiopians responded that kissing isn't necessarily sexual in their culture and saying you love someone isn't in Christian cultures in general isn't considered sexual. It always seems like Western researcher coming from cultures with such an aversion to physical contact immediately label physical contact in the record as sexual, when it isn't. Edit Deities being portrayed androgynously doesn't really prove anything, Saint John was portrayed androgynously in the middle ages, does that make middle ages Europe pro-LGBT now?
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@BreezyDaGoat235 yeah, the difference is that the British ruled all of India for over 200 years, while they didn't rule their African colonies do up to 40 years. The British ruled much of India directly but ruled all of Africa indirectly, Botswana even remained a protectorate throughout. Even when the British left most of their colonies were illiterate, non-christian, and engaged in local and not nation wide economies. Edit Like much of Africa still does polygamy and that was the first thing that missionaries tried to eliminate in most places they were active. If they couldn't eliminate that, then why could they eliminate LGBT?
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@DMack4rmTheWest maybe for you but not for me. We have our culture mostly intact and that is the case for most African cultures. Most Africans were still indigenous religion when the Brits left, most hadn't seen a white man and worked thru the Indigenous intermediaries. Here is even a pro-LGBT Traditional worshipper from a unbroken line of Traditional worshippers arguing against the traditional norms against LGBT stuff and in no where calls it foreign. https://youtu.be/uBhdHteo4Ig
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@Husq Honey Fluid =/= pro-LGBT Most cultures were fluid simply by necessity, even medieval Europe. Doesn't make them pro-LGBT
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@melissaaskew2566 If it is simply the rise of Christianity, then why does Christian Europe and the West have it decriminalized while Christian Africa it is still criminal?
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Because he was that fn' good that even the rehab guys jus had to accept that fact.
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@binaryvoid0101 my tribe definitely had a taboo about it before the Brits, so did like all the Muslims tribes that's like half the country. I haven't had chance to ask someone else from a non-Muslim tribe about it, but the pattern holds as this Kenyan brother has said.
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What is the frequency for the death of men in South Africa, because given the international murder rate of men I am sure it would be at least 8 times higher for men but that wouldn't seel that narrative and " 1 man killed every 30 minutes in South Africa" won't sell. Just further evidence that Western society values the lives of Women much more than men
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