Comments by "SmallSpoonBrigade" (@SmallSpoonBrigade) on "BREAKING: New George Floyd Video Released" video.

You're not watching the video then. Up until he refused to follow orders, he might have been allowed to stay in the car. The resisting orders obviously doesn't justify the killing, but it definitely contributed. Characterizing it as an execution isn't helpful. Not is implying that guilt had anything to do with it. Had he not been killed, he would have been arrested.
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The guns were out because he wasn't cooperating. Most felony arrests are made at traffic stops and the cops genuinely don't know if a driver or passenger has a weapon. This is why it's so important to move slowly and let the cops know if you need to reach into a bag. They don't know if you're in the process of committing a felony or have any arrest warrants until well into the interaction. I used to deal with a lot of law enforcement agencies when I worked security and most of the time, they want to get in and out as quickly and without drama as possible. Answering the questions as succinctly add possible and doing what they ask greatly reduced the chances of having problems. His lack of cooperation doesn't excuse the excessive force, but it likely nudged the confrontation in that direction.
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That's the thing, no need to pretend like George was cooperating and being respectful. His behaviour should have led to him being detained while things were sorted, but not killed. Misrepresenting situations like this gets people killed when they decide that it doesn't matter what they did when pulled over.
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My wife and i got pulled over last night, we didn't show our respect and cooperation by arguing and ignoring orders. Granted, the police in the Floyd case were way over the line, but it's dishonest to suggest that Floyd was cooperating and being respectful. Definitely doesn't excuse the amount of force used though.
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It's a self fulfilling prophesy, by failing to comply, he ensured that force would be used. The unfortunate reality is that they used more force than was justifiable and he died as a result. Now there's likely at least one cop looking at gong to prison for murder.
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Perhaps, but the gun came out after he refused to follow orders. My wife and I were pulled over yesterday and wer just answered the questions and followed his orders. His sidearm never came out. Pointing a weapon at a driver requires additional paperwork and is a real pain, even if nothing else happens. Cops don't normally go around pointing guns at random people, especially if they've got a body cam.
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@GermanLeftist the place for questions is in court with an attorney. The people in this thread misrepresenting things aren't doing anybody any favors. You comply with the orders given and of they're not lawful, there is a legal process for handling that. You can refuse to obey unlawful orders, but don't be surprised if there's negative consequences. It's clear from the video that he wasn't complying with lawful orders. The aftermath of that wasn't legal, but he won't get an attorney as he's dead.
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@eightykakes15 nobody said that. Failing to obey lawful orders is what caused them to use force, the choice of tactic and ultimate result is on them. But regardless of what convictions may or may not result, he's still dead. Fact is that even if he hadn't died, he likely would have been booked, which isn't a great outcome either.
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Dennis Young it can, but if certain groups don't reinforce the stereotypes, they eventually weaken and go away. There's a legal process that comes into play when there's a miscarriage of justice or abuse of power and cities often pay to settle lawsuits. Sadly, you can't benefit of you're dead, which is why is important for everybody to pay it cool as much as possible. Don't give thugs any grey area to and their authority and you might get one of those settlements. Or better, not harmed.
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Hard to say, but the black community tends to assume that anytime they're pulled over it's so the police can violate their rights and the media pushes that narrative. It's normal to be nervous, but pushing this as a case of him being respectful and cooperating is not doing anybody any favors.
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@blaketheman96 not really, as the body cam footage shows, the officer appears to have had poor visibility of what was going on in the car.
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@sou9472 this kind of ignorance gets people killed. The fact of the matter is that he was extremely emotional and definitely a threat to the officers. This is a very large man won wouldn't keep his hands where they could see them or comply with lawful orders. That doesn't justify them choking him out by kneeling on his neck, but it does justify the weapons.
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That's not true though. He wasn't cooperating. Obviously, this was excessive force and ultimately murder, but it's dishonest to suggest that he didn't contribute to being restrained.
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There wouldn't have been proof at that point, just reasonable suspicion. Proof would have happened during the next bit, or possibly not. But his failure to comply early on in the stop ensured that they'd want to restrain him whole the matter was settled. Depending on the specifics at that point, they likely would have booked him. They used to much force and he died as a result, but the issue of the 20 wouldn't have really mattered beyond being the basis of the stop until later in the process.
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