Comments by "SmallSpoonBrigade" (@SmallSpoonBrigade) on "" video.

It's worth noting that being uncomfortable is one thing. When I visited Dachau when I was in high school, it was incredibly uncomfortable and mind-blowing. But, it's worth noting that it's not at all the same thing as what's being done in the US educational system where they'll pile onto that a bunch of racist lies in an effort to persecute white minority groups that may not have had anything to do with the particular issue that's being covered. My family arrived in the US after the civil war and settled into an area that was far away from any slavery, but somehow I'm supposed to be responsible and to contribute towards reparations even though for nearly that entire period, my family was dirt poor and barely any better off than the emancipated slaves. History is heavily sanitized to remove any mention of the ethnic cleansing of various white minority groups moving into the US up until the post-war period. There isn't even any meaningful acknowledgement when WWII covers up that internment camps were not Japanese only, in addition to the Chinese and other Asian groups that were close enough, there were Germans and Italians purposefully moved there, the reason why it was mostly Japanese had mainly do to with the fact that the Japanese were heavily centralized in the exclusion region and weren't as easily relocated to parts of the country not subject to the restrictions. I remember literally being told that black people now have high blood pressure because several centuries ago slaves pissed on each other on the ships they were brought to the US on. It was deeply uncomfortable to have to be the one to point out that it's bullshit. And it goes on fairly often where the schools are telling outright lies in order to inform the students that are just as racist as the racism that they're claiming to oppose. It's really disappointing that we accept this kind of bullshit. There's got to be a way that we can be opposed to neo-Nazis and the Klan without buying into the racist narrative that everything has been peachy-keen for various white groups that are all basically the same monsters that perpetuated race wars for centuries and delight in torturing and murdering people of color. I mean, they literally had to invent the idea of Hispanics in order to justify excluding various white ethnic groups from consideration. Even though Hispanic isn't even a real thing, it's a massive number of ethnicities that have basically nothing in common other than a common language.
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That's probably not the case if they're a white nonhispanic ethnic group. Imagine how shitty it is to be lied about the ethnic cleansing and cultural vandalism of your culture, while being told that your family was responsible for doing it for other groups. See the problem? Germans had our language banned, and were subject to the same executive order 9066 restrictions as the Japanese, but that basically does not come up at all during the units on internment. And internment isn't even the word, the word is concentration. Those were concentration camps, not internment camps. It was deeply uncomfortable growing up in desegregating schools to have to balance the same ethnic identity that the students of color were. I had one culture at home, another at school and got to be completely confused because the schools were making it into a issue of race rather than ethnicity and focused purely based on reversing it.
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@jaredtexter4440 If that's they're goal, they're doing one f-ed up job of it. A broader history that covers the ups and downs of various ethnic groups would be more effective than erasing entire ethnic groups that don't fit the narrative. It would hardly kill anybody to talk about the free black communities of the antebellum south or the experiences of marginalized white ethic groups.
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@bece00 No, the reason why was that the German community was spread through the US and resettling is easier when you've got that network. Race had nothing to do with it. The Japanese were also offered that relocation when there were rooms available. They just didn't have a large network of countrymen across the country to tap into. Also, the Japanese got advance warning when the allies bombed cities, they bombed Dresden to the ground killing tens of thousands in a matter of hours. But, I'm sure their whiteness made that super easy.
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There's a difference between being uncomfortable and being taught that if you have any pride in your ethnicity, that you're a Nazi monster that should be excommunicated from society if not exterminated. That's the bit that often gets missed. If you want to create a new generation of racist monsters, fine, go ahead, but if you actually want to solve the major bits of racism, that's just not going to cut it. I wound up extremely racist in high school because after all those years of being taught about what a horrible person I was because of my racial identity, that all got into my head and displaced onto other people. Eventually, I realized what was going on and went about reclaiming as much of my racial identity as I could, and the racism subsided, but that's really not fair. Being expected to simultaneously be responsible for crimes against humanity committed decades before I was born while simultaneously being expected to participate in the ethnic cleansing of my own identity is a massive ask with no legitimate reason for happening.
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Did they do it correctly, or did they lump all the white folks into one group, blame the group for the situation and call it good? Because that's how it's been done for decades. You don't hear about things like the Germans and Italians being rounded up and sent to camps along with the Japanese and other Asians into concentration camps. I had to school my boss whose mother literally had to be relocated during that that executive order 9066 did not anywhere in the order specify that it was Japanese to be relocted. They were just one group, any group on the other side of the war was to be relocated. The US genocided hundreds of thousands of Germans at the end of WWII after having gone on a systematic campaign of destruction of German-American concentration during and following WWI where the German language was banned from being taught in school. And that's sort of the point, teaching about the various groups isn't a problem, the problem is that it's done in a way that's deliberately misleading and totally unhelpful.
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That's not at all how it works in the US, and John is being pretty misleading. Imagine being taught about the Holocaust and focusing entirely on the Jewish victims of it. The roughly half of the victims that weren't Jewish don't get more than a minimal mention, if that. The ethnic cleansing that followed as the Russians invaded the country in the ending days of the war and murdered civilians that had little to do with the crimes against humanity other than being part of the country leading up to the US murdering tens of thousands during an unprovoked firebombing of Dresden. Not to mention the fact that Germans and Italians were also sent to concentration camps by the US along with the Japanese and those that were confused as being Japanse. The problem is that the CRT alarmists aren't entirely wrong, there's far more going on than people simply feeling uncomfortable. One of the reasons why I gave up on being a teacher was that I couldn't in good conscience lie to the students about the history of the US to make it seem like significant portions of the US were off the limits to Russians during the cold war or that the Irish were the original target for virtually all the negative stereotypes used to denigrate black people. Not to mention the fact that applying modern racial and ethnic identities to times before they were widely accepted leads to really weird conclusions that don't make much sense and that there were communities of free black people in the South of the US prior to the civil war, things weren't great for them, but they existed. Around here, in the Pacific Northwest, we were still integrating our schools well into the '80s, so it's kind of insulting for folks to imply that there weren't white people that are relatively young who were legitimately caught in the cross-fire of integration even as we were having our own ethnic identities subjected to propaganda efforts out of the '40s. I remember buying a camera decades ago and the company bundled literal WWII propaganda with the camera. The problem with the thing that's morphed into CRT is that it silences the voices of the people who have the most power to really get at the heart of these issues. The folks that realize that a lot of this is kind of questionable and needs more discussion to flesh out and negotiate and cedes the ground to the folks that are so set in their ways, that there's not much point in listening.
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@danitho I think it's mostly a European thing, most European families have one from centuries past, but I'm sure I wouldn't be able to identify mine. If you go back far enough, most people are related to royalty.
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@andrewtorrens7790 considering that these heraldic devices were mainly used in Europe and mostly drawing on European artistic traditions, I don't find this implausible. I clearly want there, but it certainly could be true.
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@bece00 I don't recall the Japanese language being banned. Nor were various Japanese ethnic foods renamed in an effor to stamp out the culture. You can say that all you like, but the fact of the matter is, that regardless of size, there was a much greater degree of cultural vandalism targeted at Germans that was not targeted at the Japanese. They got an apology and modest checks decades later, but the Germans have still not received any sort of meaningful acknowledgement or reparation for any of it. As far as the Atom bombs go, they knew the cities were going to be flattened ahead of time. Whether it was one bomb or an entire squadron is a moot point. It doesn't make the tens of thousands that died any less dead. Your racism and ignorance proves my point better than anything I could say. You think that, because we've screwed up history and written some rather important stuff out of the curriculum.
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@bearcudlybear It didn't. The executive order didn't specify specific ethnicities, and they were allowed to resettle in other parts of the country. If it was a matter of racism, then they got it backwards, because apart from this, the Japanese got off extremely easy compared with what was done to the German community. Banning our language, renaming our foods and rewriting history to blame the ethnicity for things that weren't our fault. We're hardly blamed for more than just the holocaust, apparently, it's our fault that the US was using civilians as human shields for munitions being smuggled into Britain on the Lusitania as well.
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@Markinfilm yes and because they're inherited, many currently poor families have them.
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