Comments by "SmallSpoonBrigade" (@SmallSpoonBrigade) on "" video.

In all fairness, there's no medical reason for the boosters for people that don't have weakened immune systems. The vaccines are known to only be roughly 50% effective at preventing the vaccinated from contracting the illness, but natural immunity is much more effective and the vaccine is highly effective at preventing death and disability. What's more, by using all the vaccine doses for booster shots, it means that those in the developing world can't get vaccinated at all.
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@ThePangeaArchivesInstitute The problem is that JD was right, and Mike is wrong. Even if you assume that the figures that he's quoting are correct, and they're probably at least in the ballpark, Jimmy is still right. You get a modest reduction in the likelihood of spreading the virus, and if you're at family gatherings the reduction is going to be so small as to be not worth considering as the more people you come into contact for longer time and in closer proximity the higher the likelihood of infection is. The vaccine, at best, will make it somewhat less likely, but that's every time you get exposed to the virus, and that can happen a lot in family gatherings. The reason to get vaccinated is the reduction in serious complications, not the reduction in spread. These vaccines are just not good enough at preventing the virus from spreading for that to be a basis for deciding whether or not to see your extended family.
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@luigi5890 I agree, I'd hate to think that the corporate hacks at TYT would actually have somebody on their network admitting that vaccines are not a panacea and that this has gotten out of hand. We have treatments and the vaccines are effective at saving lives, but they do very little to stop the spread.
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His opinion here is shared by most actual experts in the field. Anybody that knows anything about either statistics or virology would know that he's not wrong about this vaccine having a minimal impact on spread. The figures that Mike quotes are far too low to consider counting on when deciding whether or not to gather with the family for holiday parties based upon the likelihood of spreading the disease around. Even at 80%, it's not much better than nothing.
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Yes, and that's the problem. The vaccines are highly effective at preventing death and permanent disability, but quite bad at preventing spread. Actual medical experts pretty much agree that you cannot vaccinate your way out of a pandemic with an imperfect vaccine. Ultimately, the only way out is for people to contract the virus and survive because they were vaccinated. But, that's not politically popular with a portion of the left. Ultimately, masking up, keeping businesses closed and getting boosters is of very little value at this point. They should have paid people to get the vaccine, allowed the vaccinated to not wear masks, and started opening up. At this point, the virus is endemic to pretty much the whole world and won't be going away, but with the vaccines and the medical treatments, the body count should continue to drop.
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A high school student could have done a better job with this. People should get vaccinated because it reduces the likelihood of getting hospitalized, disabled or killed by the virus, not because it's particularly effective at preventing infection. A vaccine with such low efficacy for preventing infection isn't going to provide the benefits that Grim was talking about, you get a marginally decreased likelihood of spreading it because there's a marginal reduction in likelihood of contracting it, and that's it. You wind up with a somewhat increased risk of getting and spreading it if you think that you can start doing holidays with lots of different people in small spaces, but still have a relatively low risk of serious complications.
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Grim is an absolute fraud and the worst part of Rising. Well, that and that horrible woman they kept getting that couldn't say anything honest to say her life.
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Yep, this video is rather embarrassing. Actual experts on the topic recognize that you can't vaccinate yourself out of a pandemic with vaccines this imperfect. Scientists have managed to do it with Small pox and are on the verge of doing it with Polio and a few others, but the efficacy rates of those vaccines are much, much higher. Even if accept the figures that Mike is quoting, and I see no particular reason to doubt them, it still makes Ryan Grim a moron for thinking that the vaccine will do much to prevent the spread. That's not how vaccines work. Physically being in close proximity to somebody that's infected can rather quickly burn through any protective effect that the vaccine might have and lead people to get infected. On top of which, anybody that has a weakened immune system might still contract it even with full vaccination. I know one 90+ year old that has contracted it twice after being fully vaccinated because at his age, his immune system just isn't that strong. He survived because he had the vaccine, but no amount of other people getting booster shots will prevent that from happening. If we cared about ending this, we'd admit that the vaccine + medical advances are good enough and go back to business as usual. Eventually enough people will survive that the cases of hospitalizations and deaths will plummet. But, in the absence of much, much better vaccines, there's not much reason to believe that a booster is going to do much, especially when so many people in the developing world haven't gotten their full vaccination yet.
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He's not antivaccine and none of what he's saying isn't true. If you go with the actual information from actual experts, rather than that fraud Faucci, you'd know that. The vaccine is marginal at best in terms of preventing the spread. The reason to get vaccinated is that it greatly reduces the risk of serious complications. He's completely right to make fun of Ryan Grim as vaccination, especially this one, can't do that. Even with a more effective vaccine like the one for measles, I'd still recommend against going places where you expect people to have the measles.
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