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Comments by "SmallSpoonBrigade" (@SmallSpoonBrigade) on "Mom Warns Other About Dangers of Swimming In Quarries After Son Died" video.
@dustin8420 In that case, the size of the quarry and lack of things like flotation rings and shepherds hooks was probably the final straw. A swimming pool is likely to be small enough that you can reach the hook out without endangering yourself, even if they do go under.
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@JackDManheim It says that it was the result of a cramp. Although it could have been a cold shock response as well, you're not going to tell the difference between those two in an autopsy. But, it's not super relevant, he was far enough out that people couldn't throw anything to him and it only takes a few minutes to be brain dead, or actually dead. There's a lot of risks in these quarries and it's best to just not swim in them. This video is as much about highlighting the avoidable problems that can happen as talking about that particular death.
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@tomy4453 Yep, it's the quickly bit that can be an issue. Cold shock response can be a very, very big deal. I had issues with that when I was younger, fortunately, I was close enough to shore that I was able to just stand up, but it would have been iffy if I had been that far out.
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@neutronenstern. If you can swim 100m, you probably could swim across that distance, the issue is if you get stuck in a sudden cold spot where you stop breathing or get caught in a weird current. I've personally swam an entire mile in one go and I'm not sure that I would risk swimming in a quarry. At least not without really knowing what I was getting into and even then, I'd probably stick to the shallows.
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@carljohnson5542 Also, this is hardly the place for it. Perhaps if people in general were more informed on the topic and there weren't instances of a half dozen people drowning in one instance as they each tried to save the people who were already drowning, there would be less interest in correcting people.
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@meganschmidt548 You were probably also winded enough that climbing on top of them wasn't an option. Although, the alcohol probably helped a bit with that as well. That's the real risk of saving somebody that's drowning.
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Aren't most of those the result of the machines tipping over? And shouldn't those machines be anchored to the wall so that that doesn't happen?
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@BelgianCat Yes, that happened to me when I was a teen. The difference was that I was in a much smaller pond and was able to stand up. But, I was completely winded by the cold water, but even if I hadn't been able to get myself out, I was in waste deep water and my buddies could have gotten me out without risking their lives.
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It's not a large number, in one of those cases noted in the video it was 19 people in like 50 years. That's typically more than a swimming pool or a typical street corner, but not really that many.
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The description says cramps, although it could also have been shock due to a sudden, and much colder, bit of water.
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@glitter-lk5dz Yep, you have to be pretty fat in order to float with your head above water. I had a classmate that was kind of tubby and when we were swimming, he could just bob there with his head above water, most people though require some effort to keep their heads high enough to breathe or to keep themselves back floating.
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@olive996 There's degrees of danger. The real issue here tends to be the stuff that might have been left just under the surface, the odd way that the water can circulate and the tendency of these places to not be easily reached via emergency responders. Even just people agreeing to stay in a relatively small area that can be reached more easily would probably help a lot.
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@LynXthecat1 If he couldn't swim, he wouldn't have been so far out that nobody could get to him in time. Most likely it was a cramp or cold shock, neither of those go away if you know how to swim.
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@ssmith65785 I've seen people that can't float even with air in the lungs. I'm still trying to figure that out, but they were extremely lean.
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@maso4xx That's uncommon, but I have seen it.
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