Comments by "SmallSpoonBrigade" (@SmallSpoonBrigade) on "" video.

TBH, I'm not surprised. I think it was kind of dumb to try to offer them under their trademark. One of the things that HD needs to be a lot less afraid of is to start marketing things like that under a different name entirely. It's not likely people think electric motorcycle when they think HD anyways and a bunch of HD riders flat out wouldn't consider them legit HD motorcycle anyways.
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@Electric_camper Yes, also people worried about cost are probably buying used cars.
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The point of electric vehicles is that it shifts the pollution to a smaller number of sources that are easier to address. You can also potentially swap out entire coal plants with more environmentally friendly options without impacting the items using the electricity. I don't get why so many people don't get that.
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@MarcSherwood TBH, the longest ride that I typically do on my motorcycle is roughly 200 miles round trip. These days, there appears to be several that can handle that with extra to spare. But, yeah, if you do hit the limit, it's not something where you can just carry a gas can to the nearest service station and return, the bike pretty much needs to be loaded into a truck and driven to a charging station.
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People used to say the same thing about not wearing helmets. And yet these days most people don't feel that wearing a helmet destroys the experience.
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TBH, that mostly just HD riders and they're unlikely to ever buy an electric motorcycle. Even the HD offering sold poorly.
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We don't all feel that way and for more recent riders in particular, a switch to an electric motorcycle would be less of an issue as the smaller displacement bikes don't really have that sort of a visceral feel like the larger ones do.
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I think they're getting close from what I can tell. I see several bikes that can manage over 200miles on a charge, which is longer than the rides I usually take without stopping for gas.
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@caspianprince It's only pointless if you never go 300 miles in a single day. There's no reason why you have to go 300 miles every day to require a bike that can handle that.
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@cp4512 Exactly, for the most part only getting 160miles on a tank isn't that big of a deal. You just pull over at the next gas station and fill up. There are a few areas where there may not be a gas station, but you can bring a spare tank. Electric motorcycles though, can take ages to recharge, so 160 miles may legitimately not be enough if you ever go on rides longer than that.
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@electric_boogaloo496 Yes, doubly so when you can't just carry a spare gas tank or get AAA to bring you gas to get you to the next gas station.
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@MikeNoble Yep, also keep in mind that it's not like the choice here is an electric motorcycle or no motorcycles. It's electric motorcycle or ICE motorcycle or ebike. And ICE motorcycles can be had for under $3k used. In fact, the local independent dealership had a 2018 sportster for under $3k this spring.
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@lifespanofafry1534 I could get a 2018 Sportster from a dealership for under $3k this spring, and all manner of others for under $10k and not have to deal with the nonsense related to the battery charging. It's not a matter of not having money to buy a motorcycle, it's realizing just how much of a rip off they are right now for what they're charging. The ones we've got are best for intown, but for under $5k you can get an ebike that does that far, far better.
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They're basically ebikes that don't have anything limiting their speed or power to qualify for use without a special license. And, I think that's a major problem for the manufacturers. The range and charging time isn't good enough to be a reasonable alternative for regular ICE motorcycles, but for in town use, ebikes just wipe the floor with them in terms of ebikes being allowed to be used wherever bikes are, so bike trails and bike lanes where motorcycles are not allowed. Sometimes, even sidewalks.
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@mikestrivens2039 Keep in mind that around town ebikes are often allowed in bike lanes and to use bike trails. And the top speeds that are permitted are often times only like 40mph tops. So, there's little reason to own an electric motorcycle just to go around town. Might as well get an ebike that can be taken into your apartment and charged there. You can even take them on the bus or train if you break down.
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I'd like to see more electric motorcycles with fake shifters to help restrict your speeds to small ranges. It would both be a nice tactile feel as well as a way of helping to avoid speeding tickets.
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Exactly, I'll sometimes ride mine for 160ish on a long ride, which is probably doable with a modern electric motorcycle, but I don't have any way of charging at home and if I want to do a longer ride like from here down to Southern California, that would be me stopping for a long time every 2 or 300 miles. Which is just not reasonable.
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I think they will get to a point where they can sell the motorcycles, but they're far to expensive for what they're offering and for the in town use that these are suited for, ebikes do that better for less money. I do think that if they get rapid charging and/or better batteries that they'll be more compelling, but right now with battery life being what it is and how hard it can be to charge if you don't have an outlet next to your parking space, it's just not a product that is particularly compelling.
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There's no reason why you couldn't add shifting and gear emulation to a motorcycle. Many modern cars have "manual" shifting that's heavily based on software doing the actual shifting.
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It's less of an issue now than it used to be with several motorcycles being able to go over 200 miles on a single charge. But, it's still probably quite a while before we have ones that are suitable for long distance touring.
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@DailyPolemics Yep, that's a large part of why I'm not going to be buying an electric motorcycle anytime soon. The only way I would have of charging it would be removing the battery and carrying it into my apartment.
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@DailyPolemics Yep, these vehicles are really meant to be charged at home and charged at work. It can work fine if you only charge at one end, but if you can't charge at either end, then it gets to be a logistical headache.
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@peterk2455 A bunch of us wouldn't mind an electric motorcycle if the charging time and battery capacity were better. I do think there are things they could do like give us "shifting" that set a range of speeds to help us enjoy the ride and reduce the issues related to acceleration and handling. But, as they become more practical, I do think that people will get used to riding them. Gear shifting is fun when you get used to it, but it's not like that's the only part of riding a motorcycle that people connect with.
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@ShortsWayUp If they could do fast charging, I think you'd see far fewer people complaining about range. But, if you can only do 200 miles on a charge and then have to wait several hours as it charges, that can be a problem. I've regularly ridden nearly 200 miles on one of my favorite routes and I have ridden closer to 400 miles in a single day. And, being forced to wait hours to charge because there's a lack of fast charging is a significant problem. I wouldn't necessarily mind having to wait a half hour more often, it's often nice just to stretch the legs, but if it's going to be hours, that's a problem.
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@vladimirakopyan4088 IMHO for in town riding, electric bikes make more sense. They can be used in bike lanes and on bike paths and motorcycles can't, even if they are electric. Electric motorcycles make more sense when you leave the city, but that's where we need more charging stations, faster charging and better batteries to make things make sense.
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Yes, but if you're just commuting in town, you're better off with an ebike that's allowed to use bike lanes and bike trails. I think the big issue here is that they aren't yet ready for longer trips. They have improved a lot and with some of them getting over 200miles a charge, it's probably not going to be long before electric motorcycles are ready to replace ICE ones. But, there's still a bunch of places where charging stations are sparse and it's probably going to be years before electric motorcycles are ready for cross country road trips.
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@jerm1027 A lot of us don't have the ability to charge at home. I think that if home charging stations were more common, that it would be less of an issue. The longest rides I usually go for are like 160miles and I see that some of the current electric motorcycles can do well over 200miles per charge. So, I do think that we're getting there, and we'll probably be to the point where electric motorcycles are a serious threat to ICE ones within the decades. But, for in town commuters, they make no sense as they can't easily be charged if you haven't got a charger at the parking place and they aren't allowed to use bike lanes and bike paths. Eletric bikes can generally be taken inside to charge and can typically go wherever normal bikes can go, which for in town use is a massive improvement.
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@L0n3W0lfBl4ck In that case, you'd probably want to remove the battery if you can and take that to some place with power. But, it is indeed a massive problem for certain types of riding.
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