Comments by "SmallSpoonBrigade" (@SmallSpoonBrigade) on "Mystery of New York couple's 1980 disappearance suddenly unravels" video.

@CaliforniaMatrix1989 If you look at the pond, it looks relatively steep, if the car got launched into the pond due to somebody confusing the gas for the brake, it's entirely possible that any deformation would have already disappeared by the time that anybody even started looking. Especially if there was any rain in the meantime. This isn't a pond with a lot of mud surrounding it, it looks like a pretty small amount as the last bit as it transitions from shore to pond is pretty steep.
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@timheersma4708 That depends on how fast they were going, whether they tried to stop and how soft the soil was. If they didn't try to stop and the ground was relatively hard, they may not have left any tire tracks.
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Take a look at the video, there's not much mud at the edge of the pond and a car traveling fast enough to not be visible without diving would need to be going fast enough to where it probably didn't even touch the mud. I do think that this does raise a few questions in terms of a car going fast enough to get that far into the pond probably made some noise, but then again, if the car was on the freeway, there may not have been anything to see on the hotel side of things and people may have assumed that they got on at the next on ramp past the hotel, and only did a cursory dive and not thought much of it when they found nothing.
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@00WatName00 My personal suspicion is that they didn't look right away because there was no reason to. And some combination of rain and waves probably destroyed whatever marks there may have been prior to anybody knowing to look there. If the driver accidentally stomped down on the gas thinking it was the brake, there may not have been any tire marks at all to find.
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Doubtful, the shore isn't steep enough for the car to get far enough in to not be visible from the shoreline. These cars got poor gas mileage, but they weren't literal boats.
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@petemaynard My personal suspicion was that the car was in gear and the driver got confused about which pedal was which. I'm not sure that somebody that was trying to dispose of the car after killing the owners would try to dispose of it in the one pond that was almost certainly going to be searched for evidence. But, it's certainly possible, especially if the perp was somebody that didn't expect to be tied to the location.
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@rustinstardust2094 They used divers, but I'm guessing they didn't use enough dives to avoid the problem of not going quite straight and just barely missed the car.
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Probably a fair number, the US has a fairly large number of such ponds and if you don't know how far they got into their trip, it can be hard to even figure out which ponds to search. These days, it's probably a lot less of a problem as there's often cellphone logs of which towers were pinged, fewer routes in use and the technology to quickly search large areas for tire marks is a lot better than it used to be.
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@leonalivingston8041 Historically, it was probably pretty common as up until the modern freeway system was built, there were a lot of smaller highways in common use that went around lakes and smaller ponds rather than taking a relatively straight path through the country. There were also more opportunities to go off the road due to a lack of ABS and ESC built into the cars and lax standards when it came to drinking and driving. Even in recent decades, it can take weeks to locate a car that's just in a field sometimes if you don't know what their intended route was.
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@vsevolodozerov8947 Clearly there weren't, because it wouldn't take a police investigation to notice tire tracks and make a few calls to the local newspaper to keep it in the headlines until a proper investigation of that were conducted. The banks of the pond are fairly steep near the water line, and I'm guessing the car was going relatively quickly when it went into the lake if it was able to get deep enough that nobody noticed it. Plus, it doesn't sound like anybody even started looking for them for a few days until after they failed to show up back home. Meaning, that whatever tire marks may have been there might not have been noticed until the water wiped them out.
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@Homedepotorange I think the point is that when people were looking at that angle, they didn't know that the car was in that pond. There's a rather long distance between the hotel and their ultimate destination where they could have been carjacked.
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