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Comments by "SmallSpoonBrigade" (@SmallSpoonBrigade) on "Suicide finding for black man found hanging in California stirs anger" video.
@2ticketsoneadventure Or he didn't have anything sturdy to tie off to at home. I had a cousin that they found hanging on some playground equipment. It would be easy to tear into that about the reason he chose that place, but realistically, it was probably just a place where he knew there was a bar that would support his weight long enough to do the job. People like to overthink suicide and the reality is that it's just suicide. Sometimes there's not much to it other than a temporary belief that nothing is ever going to get better and the current state of affairs is worse than death. It's why netting and suicide prevention phones on bridges tend to reduce suicide rates. In many cases any little thing that interrupts the plan can be enough to stop it for good.
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Maybe or maybe they just genuinely believe that Black people don't hang themselves due to the symbolism of it. Either way, people grieving aren't known for being hyper-rational. Some are, but not everybody is, some get downright irrational when they hurt like that.
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It's not an easy position for the police to be in when there's a Black man that's found hanging. There's a lot of folks out there that just assume that no Black man would hang himself due to the history of "strange fruit" in some parts of the country. But, it does happen, some Black people do hang themselves and it just means that there was a suicide. Beyond that, it doesn't mean much. That being said, after the rest of the results are available, it will likely to found to be a suicide by hanging as presumably there weren't a lot of signs around the death scene to lead to questions about what actually happened..
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There's nothing at all shady about it, this is more or less standard practice. They don't normally wait until the toxicology and autopsy results are in when they issue a preliminary finding. The alternative would have been to say nothing and deal with the complaints that the police weren't addressing the death.
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It's a matter of routine. Toxicology reports can takes weeks and in many cases, an autopsy is never completed due to it being irrelevant to the process. Presumably, the medical examiner was able to determine that the bones were broken that are relevant to death by hanging and that there aren't other suspicious broken bones or defensive wounds either. Which would lead to a preliminary finding of suicide, even though there's more testing that is coming.
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Logic 46 They do, but Americans shoot more Americans in general than you see in other developed countries. If the police weren't also doing so, it would be kind of weird. We have a system where we've failed miserably to regulate the availability of firearms to those who aren't able to use them responsibly. Whether it's criminals or just individuals that are to F-ing stupid to secure them well enough that their kids don't get their hands on them, there are tons of deaths that only happen because of our national fetish for firearms.
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I think the issue is that it was hanging outside from a tree limb. For some Black people, the notion that a Black person would do that is impossible due to the "strange fruit" symbolism of it. Realistically, there's nothing stopping a Black person from hanging themselves anymore than a White or Latino person. People who follow through on suicide are not in a place where they're thinking a lot about how other people will view the act, at least not in a rational way.
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@joshyaash One of the big problems with the whole #BLM thing is that policy proposals don't make for snappy hashtags. One of the things that the civil rights movements of the past did so much more effectively was communicate to media outlets that were willing to cover them what the issues were, what the demands were and how the two related.
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