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Comments by "SmallSpoonBrigade" (@SmallSpoonBrigade) on "Iran's STUNNING New President Explained! | The Kyle Kulinski Show" video.
@paradoxexpress6976 Yep, prior to the revolution, women were actually doing pretty well in Iran. My wife is from Tehran and her relatives were doing probably better than women of their generation would have been doing in the US. One of her grandmothers was a principal.
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@ba3725 Considering that the US is to blame for that by supporting the Shah when the people collectively wanted something else and that women's rights in the US appear to be going in reverse, it's foolish of anybody in America to assume that our intervention in their country is a good idea. These things probably will improve over time, but as long as the US and various other foreign powers continue to pour gasoline on the fire, that's not going to happen. Prior to the revolution, women were actually in a pretty good place compared with much of the world. Most of the stuff that you're referring to is more recent and came with the revolution.
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@purewhiteloverbizarrejelly Which is somewhat ironic as back in the '80s Israel and Iran were on the same side against Iraq.
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@M.A441 You sound like my Persian in-laws. But, the fact of the matter is that the US backed the Iraqis during the Iran-Iraq war and attempted to reinstate the Shah. If you compare pre and post revolution Iranian culture, it got a lot less Persian and a lot more Arabic. That would not have happened if the US, and other parties, hadn't stuck their noses in.
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It's arguably too late now, we've got multiple generations that grew up under the current political climate there. Had we learned our lesson in the '90s and brokered some sort of a deal with them that allowed them to properly defend themselves against their Sunni neighbors, it may have been a completely different matter. But, back in the '70s they were a very progressive country compared with much of the world and the Persian people were never big fans of the Islamic hardliners.
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@wesleystreet Yes, and Iran is only about 50 years out of having a rather modern nation. The sooner the US stops screwing around and gets a proper peace deal with them, the more likely it is that they'll eventually revert back to something a bit more modern. That being said, its' been a full 2 generations under the current political system, so it may already be too late for that outcome.
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@M.A441 Why did the US put him back in power then?
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@rehan3600 Also, keep in mind that he had to get approval from the Ayatollah to even run, so he's not exactly gong to be a liberal. But, the tragedy here is that we don't have anybody up for election right now that understands Iran or has any interest in making peace. Iran for it's part is mostly a regional power and still remembers the million+ that were killed by the Iraq government that the US supported in it's proxy war against the Soviets. Making a peace deal and sticking to it is the best thing we can to do undermine the legitimacy of the hardliners.
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@19Marksman79 Yes, although I was mostly referring to prior to the revolution. Persian culture itself is not Arabic culture and a lot of the things that people point at as being a problem for women in Iran are Arabic things that I doubt would stick around indefinitely if the US and our allies would keep our noses out of it.
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@JeffRebornNow Yes, I don't doubt that there are nuances that I don't know about, but the reality is that Persians aren't Arabs and most of the measures that we're objecting to came from the Arab world. My in-laws are from Iran and the reality is just not what people in the US think. My wife had a grandmother and grandfather that were both principals of schools and being in higher positions was very possible in Iran in a way that it hasn't been in much of the Muslim world.
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@LancesArmorStriking In all fariness, the US changes leaders every 2-6 years depending upon the specific office and it's been decades of incompetent foreign policy with respect to the region.
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@fleetadmiralsidiqi1941 Iran is basically just as democratic as the US is. When is the last time that we had a major party candidate for President or Senate that didn't have the blessing of the powers that be? There's currently 4 sitting senators that are independents and at least half of them were Democrats before leaving the party. And just look at the way that the Democrats rigged their primary in order to get HRC and then Biden rather than Bernie.
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@LancesArmorStriking Sort of, nukes are probably why we haven't had another conflict of the scale of the world wars, however, it also means that the next world war we have might well be the last thing that humans do. It also opens us to a risk of a Dr. Strangelove deciding to nuke us all.
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@frenzalrhomb6919 That's a generally true statement. In the US, if you look at our hardliners, a large part of what drives that is fear of other countries attacking us. A big difference is that the US is a super power and Iran is just a regional power. Much of the behavior that the US is concerned with is the result of the country needing to protect itself from Israel and the various Suni run Islamic states. Arguably, the best thing the US could do is broker some sort of a peace deal that allay the concerns of them having another war that kills hundreds of thousands of their own in exchange for agreeing not to pursue nuclear weapons. I'm not sure that there's a willingness to give them defensive weapons as part of it, but allowing them to install such defensive weapons should be a part of the agreement.
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@JeffRebornNow Yes, and if the US, and other foreign powers, would get our noses out of the country, the local culture would probably reject a lot of that stuff because it was never authentic to the country's native culture.
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