Youtube comments of Stan Wagner (@Buck123four).

  1. TOP SECRET stored in a BOX in a GARAGE? I spent ~39 years with access to Secret & occasionally TS documents. If ONE was misplaced / improperly stored, a Court Martial OR dismissal was nearly immediate. We took it serious - and rightfully so.
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  2. I saw the first public launch / shoot / firing of the Javelin back in the 1990s...and KNEW it was a Game Changer. Pretty good range...AND truly Fire & Forget. And the soft-launch reduces the chance yer gonna cook your buddies. The CLU is very useful for surveillance purposes when not attached to the missile!
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  3. On-board diagnostics simplify the matter. Plus, drivers get about forty hours of training on this critter. Mechanics get about 80 hours. Hopefully, gone are the days of "drive it around the motor pool and here is yer license."
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  4.  @willthorson4543  Heaven forbid an Officer should open his mouth about an ongoing FIASCO; leave Americans behind, evacuate rapists. Good choices.
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  5. They weren't fielded until 2019...not sure how ya drove one in Iraq. // Do you mean MRAP-ATV, MATV? They look similar.
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  6. JLTV has superb off-road capability; will run circles around ANY HMMWV, & has a 3,500 or 5,100 payload. Oshkosh makes nearly ALL of DoDs vehicles, so "how it looks" isn't a valid assessment tool. Its a lot bigger than HMMWV...which was bigger than the M151 jeep.
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  7.  @jasonarcher7268  I went from an XVIII Corps airborne unit to an Army Reserve Engineer unit while in college. Reserve unit was a joke; on monthly "drills" they had snowball fights. Yup...100+ people having snowball fights. I volunteered to come in during the week to clean weapons to get outta the BS weekend drills.
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  8.  @Alex12123  90% of Secret docs content is available by a Google search. TOP Secret - Not a chance. Sniffy had them in a box in his garage. FJB.
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  9.  @thomasjefferson7584  My last tactical environment was in Mogadishu (1993) in a totally unarmored HMMWV. Not even canvas. But the JLTV is far superior to any HMMWV or MRAP. Yes, it is taller, but that extra foot or so at a distance of 100 yards is totally irrelevant. Reliability, protection, off-road mobility, electrical power generation, NET-ready, towing capacity, etc. put it light years ahead of anything else. The test reports are available from ATEC are available if you want to read them.
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  10. It never "officially" started, in the manner wars are SUPPOSED to start; a Declaration of War by the US Congress. DEC 1941 was the last declared war...and look what a buncha Phuck-upped places the US has found itself.
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  11. Sniffy admits it was a "mistake." Yup...robbing the liquor store is a mistake. BOTH need to go to jail.
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  12. FT Stewart; driver error, driving too fast on a curve & another vehicle was in its way. JLTV rolled, but was operational a few hours later. Fact.
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  13.  @aizseeker3622  When was the last time an American wheeled vehicle was hit with an ATGM? Answer: A long time ago, if EVER. Abrams & Bradleys & Strykers are the combat formations that would face units equipped with ATGMs. And an ATGM can destroy an Abrams...so equating a JLTVs ability to withstand an ATGM is not a logical argument.
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  14. JLTV was tested on numerous "anti-rollover" scenarios. It passed. But - anyone can roll ANYTHING over if they try hard enuf. :)
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  15.  @swaghauler8334  I drove one at Bragg 74-75. POS wouldn't downshift; if ya wanted to slow down ya had to come to a stop, then start over. How effed-up is that?
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  16.  @AflacMan13  JLTV wasn't fielded until 2019. It looks similar to the MRAP-ATV...the same company builds both.
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  17. Well Done! They will keep Marines & Soldiers ALIVE...while accomplishing the mission.
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  18.  @sarathewonderful7561  Please...enlighten us with your brilliance. Have you ever been there? EVER? Dreams don't count.
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  19.  @thomasjefferson7584  With LRAS-3, AND a turret, not sure how much more SA ya need. The back-door windows were replaced with bigger windows, and front facing camera installed. The windows are just about the same size, or bigger, than MATV windows used in Iraq / Afghanistan. Sorta interesting how they were acceptable in combat, but UNACCPTABLE in CONUS. I think some complain too much. Protection or SA? The current solution seems acceptable to the vast majority.
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  20.  @sir_blasphemy_the_first  True, but some enjoy telling half-truths...which is a WHOLE lie.
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  21.  @Fng_1975  Sir - Glad you survived those blasts. Way back when...in 1996 I helped develop a requirement document that would have armored ALL Army wheeled vehicles, but DA G3 refused to put a penny against it for funding. It was based largely on Bosnia & Mog, where I rode around in totally unarmored HMMWVs. Anywhooo JLTV is advertised as having "MRAP-like protection..." Which it has, but one can't easily make a 24,000 +/_ pound vehicle as survivable as one 2 or 3 times as large. The MATV ORIGINALLY had to weigh less than 25,000 pounds - that didn't last long. //// All MRAPS have LIMITED soft soil mobility. Hard packed desert w/ substrata of rocks / petrified wood, a VW Jetta could drive on that. SOFT soil - mud, sand dunes, etc. is where JLTV excels. That is what is was tested against, and it passed. Maneuver warfare requires maneuvering - and thats why JLTV is important. It ran CIRCLES around any HMMWV in those soil types. /// IRT any comment on a previous subject - I musta been brain dead OR the cat ran across the keyboard. Take care. GC
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  22. Did you guys check with the Program Manager for the JLTV before you "developed" this video? Ya might wanna do that if you want to practice actual journalism...provide FACTS, vice entertainment / half-truths. A half-truth is a WHOLE LIE. Write that down.
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  23. No one was running from anything. Was handled as a tactical withdrawal; USMC came ashore via amphibs, all UN forces withdrew behind USMC, boarded ships, & sailed away. USMC went back the same way they came, via amphibs & helos. Thats FACT, not fiction.
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  24.  @sarathewonderful7561  Were you THERE? Read any? Try it - ain't hard. 1st graders can do it
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  25. You believe newspapers? Were YOU there to hear the verbiage?
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  26. IRT Protection, you won't read in a public forum its capabilities, for obvious reasons. / This is a DEMO film, not a film of the 200,000 + miles it was tested in MD, AZ, or AL, or of the individual performance tests it underwent (air drop, fording, side slope, cornering, lane changes at speed, etc.). It also underwent an Operational Test in the desert, with an Army unit. They had some (trivial) recommendations, & some items were added; a muffler, a front-facing camera, storage compartments were ruggedized. / Has been fielded for well over two years, & program managers et al are constantly looking for areas that need improvement. Overall, not bad for the DoDs first shot at an armored truck with significant off-road capability, towing up to 11,000 pounds, with 10Kw onboard / 10Kw exportable power.
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  27. This vehicle was NOT built for any specific place...was built to be used in ANY environment. Could be used in the Pacific OR in Europe, or anywhere else. (Lightning fast? Mebbe the 75th Ranger Regt, OR the 82nd Airborne. Those are about the only "Strategic deployable" units the Army has.)
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  28. Back in the early 1990s Japan send engineer troops & eqpt to SE Asia to help a recovery effort from a typhoon. A royal mess...they hadn't "practiced" since 1944 or so. Practice makes perfect.
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  29. Air or "PNEUMATIC?" Pneumatic: "...containing or operated by air or gas under pressure...." Perhaps you meant something else?
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  30. They LEFT cuz that 'country' is totally effed-up & not worth a drop of US blood.
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  31.  cameraflyer  Yup - 77 stood around in Uvalde; in Nashville, the PD RAN to the gunfire.
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  32.  @swaghauler8334  Only Gama-goat you'll see will be in a museum.
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  33.  @kilik407  Yup. There is a LOT of that here...people make stuff up cuz they don't KNOW WTF they are talking about.
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  34. Mebbe he learned a lesson. First video he relied on "military journalists" that do nothing but find fault & cut & paste from other :journalists," who cut & paste from others...who are invariably WRONG. And - they relied on "reports" from an organization called "DOT&E," which has ZERO subject matter experts, just a bunch of fault-finders who have accomplished very little - but take pride in criticizing those who actually DO something. DOT&E - DoDs little people, many who can't speak English. How about that? DOT&E.
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  35.  @basemanawakens6089  MRAP-ATV (MATV) & JLTV are made by the same company. JLTV has capabilities MRAP-ATV doesn't have; off-road mobility, 10Kw onboard & exportable power, 11,000 pound towed load, NET Ready, etc. MRAPs were ALL about protection.
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  36. Yep...wasn't even close. OTC rocked w/ this program.
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  37. Tejas! Forever...
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  38. Yup. These "military journalists" are long on fiction / don't know what they are talking about & short on research. Video is a year old & he is quoting reports 2 or 3 years old.
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  39. Oshkosh makes about 90% of ALL armored trucks used by the Army & USMC. They know what they are doing.
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  40. The testing phase for the OTC JLTV (after contract award) took well over a year; reliability tests, performance tests, air-drop tests, etc. Testing was done in Alaska, Arizona, FT Bragg, & Maryland.
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  41.  @mykline1  Agree in large part. The FMTV was tested at primarily full load...but WASN'T tested at the "Drive around Fort Bragg with a load of wall lockers at 30 MPH, total weight of 600 pounds" So...after a short while, the drive shafts & transmissions started cracking / breaking. The problem was resonance / natural frequency at low speeds w/ a partial load. The testers ended up w/ egg on their faces, but problem was eventually fixed, & test procedures were modified. Similar problem w/ FMTV dump truck...was tested hauling X tons of pea gravel - no problem. When fielded, units used them to haul "typical" loads of concrete w/ rebar sticking out...which poked holes in the dump bed. Another egg on the face story...but lessons were learned & test procedures changed.
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  42.  @mykline1  Yup...the first 6-9,000 FMTV were pieces of junk for sure. The driveline issue was a big black mark on the program for sure. S&S mgmt at the time didn't care...they were getting paid. S&S mgmt changed, a new govt PM came onboard, & the A1 was started...which broke records in reliability. The 5-ton E-van was a wonderful piece of eqpt...as is the FMTV-LHS, surprised more units don't want / demand them ILO "dolly mobilizers." And then came 2003 & things stared blowing up...as if it was the first time in US history the enemy used booby-traps / IEDs / pick your name. Still - the FMTV is one of the most versatile truck the Army has ever had. (IRT test procedures, the engineer dump truck was a real piece of work...using pea gravel as the test media? Concrete chunks w/ rebar sticking out were later IDd as "typical" loads...the Engr School didn't put a whole lotta thought into THEIR truck.
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  43. Its about a foot taller; from 100 yards, I couldn't notice a difference. And - when detecting a vehicle, MOVEMENT is the 1st telltale; dust plume in an arid location is #2.
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  44.  @MbisonBalrog  Wasn't designed for ONLY "convoy escort." JLTV can handle MANY missions, convoy escort being one of dozens. Infantry mission is to close with & destroy the enemy...NOT for convoy support.
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  45. Yes...to a limit. There is storage in the back. Seats are designed for wearing LBE...but anybody can complain about anything, & some usually do.
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  46. I'm 6' 3" & had plenty of room, front & back. Rear windows being replaced w/ much larger ones.
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  47.  @TrainLikeYouFight  Pray tell - when was the last time the US Army fought in -60-degree weather? A: Never.
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  48. Yinz done good!
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  49.  @kenji214245  Well, I guess we will just disagree on the impact it's height has on operations. I think its not significant; you believe otherwise. // In Mog, every time I went off a compound in a ground vehicle, there were crowds & crowds...they coulda seen me if I was on a bicycle. Thats why SOP was 3 vehicles minimum, a crew-served weapon, & a radio. Sorta primitive by todays standards, but ya does what yer told. Got sorta interesting at times... :) // But, I think we agree that mebbe FINALLY the Army / USMC have agreed ya can't / shouldn't send folks into harms way in an unarmored vehicle w/ no comms capability. But not many body bags coming home now, so we shall see how the funding holds up...especially when the SECDEF was on the Board of Directors at Raytheon, & the former SECDEF was a VP at Raytheon - which doesn't make the JLTV. Take care.
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  50.  @koolyman  Vehicle comes with a charcoal grill. (Kidding...)
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  51. Still around for when extensive off-road isn't necessary & protection is necessary.
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  52. There were a lot less breathing than when the US showed up.
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  53. JLTV has off-road / soft soil mobility that will run circles around MATV. Reliability is about 5X over MATV. JLTV has 10Kw onboard & exportable power. MATV was a 1 trick pony - protection. JLTV has numerous capabilities MATV doesn't. Same company built them. t -
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  54. When bullets start flying & bombs start exploding...JLTV is the ONLY solution to keep troops alive.
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  55.  @thomasjefferson7584  The Armor community - for the past 20+ years - has complained about their vehicles...yet they have never developed the requirements for one since about the year 2000. It was a coordinated program with the Brits, but it was cancelled, the British called it the "TRACER" system (I forget the US name of the program).. Then they wanted the M1025. Then they wanted the M1114...but the Commandant of the Armor School hated the M1114 reliability, which was about 200 miles between breakdowns at the Scout operational mode summary / mission profile. Then Strykers came around, and I believe some of them were used as Scout / Recon vehicles. Then OIF / OEF came around, and PROTECTION became Job Number One with MRAPS being the solution. And the HMMWVs got heavier & heavier, and their reliability was terrible, and their protection against certain threats was terrible because of the lack of ground clearance. Then JLTV started in 2005, and contract award in 2015, and fielding in 2019. And that is it. If the Armor community really wants a standalone Scout vehicle, they need do something about it beside complain. Since "TRACER" was cancelled around 2002, nothing has made it above the "I wish we had a XYZ system" level. For the time being, JLTV is it, unless the pathetic HMMWV is retained, or use the Bradley. Good luck.
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  56. Until lightweight Unobtainium armor is invented...steel is the armor.
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  57. One week driver training. No.
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  58. Rosen refuses to answer questions to which EVERYONE knows the answers to. SICKNICK died of a stroke. MS BABBIT was NOT armed; she was MURDERED. Similar actions - murdering American CITIZENS - resulted in Timothy McVeigh doing what he did.
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  59. The Commandant of the USMC & the CSA Army & CJCS disagree with you.
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  60. ALL MRAPS provide protection; just don't try to take them into soft soil. 8 times outta 10 they will get stuck.
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  61. Anything will roll over. But it passed NATO lane change maneuver (rapid lane changes) and side slope tests. And drivers recv over 40 hours of training. Can't drive it like a Camaro...
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  62.  @aizseeker3622  M-1, Bradleys, & Apaches will take care of the roosian & chineeeese "combat vehicles." Fact.
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  63. Am reading "Killing Kennedy." Jackie was a great woman, with some quirks not visible, such as smoking a pack a day. How she put up with JFK is beyond me. Her biggest task was raising their children, as well as being First Lady AND redecorating the White House.
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  64. Thats interesting...I had the same observation. Some people complain about the noise, claiming they are TOO noisy. Can't please everybody, I guess.
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  65. Thanks for a good summary. Many people commenting have zero idea what they are talking about...set them straight.
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  66. "Russian Tigers?" What is that? You REALLY think Russia builds anything that is better than Western products?
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  67. None. 0.00000.
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  68. It has 10Kw onboard & 10Kw exportable power. That should handle it...
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  69. Do a side by side comparison on about 20 critical capabilities of the different vehicles...then have it verified. THEN I'll believe you.
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  70. Superb vehicle & well managed program. Sure hope it isn't viewed as the "bill payer" for all the Buck Rogers Toys Du Jour. Not many Soldiers bleeding / dying these days, & that usually results in programs that protect Soldiers & Marines taking budget cuts.
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  71. I remember seeing T-shirts in Vienna Austria with a kangaroo on it, with a circle around it & a stripe thru the kangaroo. Mebbe someone needs this T-shirt?
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  72. Two weeks of training for mechanics.
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  73.  spikedpsycho  It CAN tow the M1102 (HMMWV trailer), if all one wants to do is drive on hard surface roads. The off road mobility of JLTV is far superior to the HMMWV. & the M1102 can't handle the terrain the JLTV can negotiate. The JLTV trailer is being built & fielded.
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  74.  @verdebusterAP  JLTV is it. Studliest vehicle US has ever had. USMC originally wanted 5,500...that is now up to 15,000.
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  75. They claim they will bypass cities...always a short pat answer that defies common sense. But hey, if they wanna see 8 or 9 troops become squiggly pieces of liquid plasma, more power to them.
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  76. There was nothing classified shown in this video. Nothing.
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  77. Looks a lot alike, only ~35% smaller. Same company makes both.
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  78.  @VictorianTimeTraveler  Lots of truth in that, but when the USA comes into town in force, they are sorta hard to miss. Long time ago in Europe, my unit had armored Mercedes & BMW 700 series; SOME Generals preferred a local rental car due to reasons you stated.
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  79. JLTV can run circles around ANY HMMWV; the original HMMWV or the current up-armored ones. Circles, big or small, with a 3,500 pound payload (4-door) or a 5,100 pound payload (2-door). JLTV is built for the current conflicts – AND for the future, Anywhere in the world. It has 10Kw onboard power – and 10Kw exportable power, and is fully NET-ready. Superior protection, superior reliability, superior performance all around. Transportable by C130, C17, C5, CH47, CH53, and airdrop certified. Designed and tested to mount TOW, M2, M240, & M249. 30MM have been added as a proof of principle. The IG report is OLD NEWS today; who CARES about minor problems from 2 YERSA AGO that were quickly solved? The Big Fixes were –hold your breath– adding a muffler, adding a front facing camera, and some other trivial item. Get your time-lines right…the Lockheed Martin preceded the BS IG report by years. And the MRAP has nearly ZERO off-road mobility in soft soil.
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  80. JLTV is a BILLION times more survivable than ANY HMMWV...at least.
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  81.  @rubenesparza7546  Fast is fun...picking up PIECES of Soldiers in about 300 pieces cuz that is what they were reduced to by a mine...not so much.
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  82.  @rubenesparza7546  I TRY not to think about it, but thats not possible. But, I appreciate yer concern. Rakkasan!
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  83.  @dannykh22asirify  T&P is a bunch of BS artists who exaggerate things just to do something. They have ZERO journalistic morals. The rollover at Stewart was DRIVER ERROR. The vehicle that rolled was operating a few hours later.
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  84.  @dannykh22asirify  That vehicle at FT Stewart rolled over cuz it got ran off the road. And it was back operationally the same day. T&P & the other "military" media suck at telling the truth.
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  85. 100% wrong. It runs CIRCLES around any HMMWV, on or off road. Runs up and down hills at max armor - no problem.
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  86. I know dozens who have been thru operator & maint trng...they love it.
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  87. Still a lot of MATVs around, mainly prepo; issued when needed.
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  88. Has been fielded for OVER 3 years...and underwent 300,000+ miles before that. And no cluster^%$#s yet.
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  89. I agree. But this vehicle will bring many of the troops home, after they deployed for these BS "wars."
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  90.  @meatbyproducts  JLTV can run circles around ANY HMMWV; the original HMMWV or the current up-armored ones. Circles, big or small, with a 3,500 pound payload (4-door) or a 5,100 pound payload (2-door). Towing capacity of 11,000 pounds. Mobility in soft soil / soft sand far superior to any MRAP or any HMMWV. JLTV is built for the current conflicts – AND for the future, Anywhere in the world. It has 10Kw onboard power – and 10Kw exportable power, and is fully NET-ready. Superior protection, superior reliability, superior performance all around. Transportable by C130, C17, C5, CH47, CH53, and airdrop certified.
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  91.  @meatbyproducts  Well, I guess we must agree to disagree. But the USMC is happy with them, thus their tripling of planned procurement. They have had them for over two years now...and are envisioning maximizing use of them for many missions never thought of before, such as a platform for anti-ship missiles. The Army once had JLTV as their #1 program...but given troops ain't getting killed so much these days, are sorta prolonging the buy out of the planned 49,099 to use the money on the Toys du Jour, like artillery that can shoot long distances...when a single JDAM can accomplish those missions. But if China Joe, like Dubya & Lil Barry, gets the US in another BS good for nothing war, that might change. Take care. GC
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  92.  @meatbyproducts  :) Well, at least they aren't as much of a social welfare orgnztn as the US Army is becoming... Ciao.
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  93. This is just a demo film. Testing was conducted around the US, from Arizona to Maryland to Alaska, varied terrain all around.
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  94. All / everyone that drove a HMMWV.
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  95.  @tommygun5038  Yup. And Apaches, CAS, etc. This thing isn't intended to go toe to toe against tanks etc.
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  96. Gotta love hand-held drones....provides a personal "Gods- view" at a trivial cost!
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  97. I bet it doesn't. Has been fielded for nearly THREE years, & no one has complained yet.
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  98.  @casbot71  It has been fielded for nearly three years. No extensive increase in maintenance reported.
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  99.  @MisterNi  It underwent extensive testing to ensure it can negotiate side-slopes at payload, high-speed lane changes, cornering at speed, etc. ANYTHING can be rolled if errors are made...which is why there is emphasis on training. If it DID rollover, & the crew was wearing the 4-point seatbelts, they will survive because of the crush-proof cab.
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  100. HMMWVs will be around for a while. // JLTV can run circles around ANY HMMWV; the original HMMWV or the current up-armored ones. Circles, big or small, with a 3,500 pound payload (4-door) or a 5,100 pound payload (2-door). JLTV is built for the current conflicts – AND for the future, Anywhere in the world. It has 10Kw onboard power – and 10Kw exportable power, and is fully NET-ready. Superior protection, superior reliability, superior performance all around. Transportable by C130, C17, C5, CH47, CH53, and airdrop certified. Designed and tested to mount TOW, M2, M240, & M249. 30MM have been added as a proof of principle.
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  101. Contact the Army Test Center & ask them...they TESTED it. But idle curiosity won't get you too far.
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  102.  @scottlutzke2323  Yes. NET ready; 10Kw onboard power; 10Kw exportable power; more than adequate ballistic protection; off road will run circles around HMMWV; survivable in rollovers; mounts all current MG & RWS; etc. Not perfect, but given mandates from VCSA ~10 years ago, it is ready. A bit cramped, but all blemishes aside, I'd have preferred it in Mog 2 decades ago over HMMWV / uparmored HMMWV (which didn't exist in today's form). (And MDO is about 99% renaming existing "stuff," but gives the go's sumthin harmless to do.)
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  103.  @USMC_0311_Grunt  EVERY requirement was vetted w/ USA, USMC, Joint Staff, word by word, line by line. Every one.
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  104.  @USMC_0311_Grunt  ALL wars; protection, mobility C4ISR capable. SECARMY runs off at mouth - time for him to go back to private industry & BS folks there.
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  105.  @kolinmartz  It IS "road legal" as is depicted...
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  106. The "reliability" "problem" was actually an OBJECTIVE finding, like most of the BS IG & DOTE report. The ACTUAL reliability (FACTUAL) wasn't a problem - it was / is about 10 times as reliable as any HMMWV.
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  107.  @infblu3808  Inf Blu; Thats a good point. The basis for the specs has been "...accommodate the 5th - 95th percentile male / female...," meaning without helmet or nods. Given prevalence of nods (and helmets...), that may need relooked.
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  108. No, is Toronto, Canada. Everyone knows that.
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  109. No. Same company, MATV came first & its mobility in soft soil / loose sand sucks compared to JLTV.
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  110. Still around, when off-road mobility not really needed.
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  111. Studliest vehicle ever used by the ARMY & USMC. The IG report is OLD NEWS today; who CARES about minor problems from 2 years ago that were quickly solved, other than needle-penised bug fornicators? The Big Fixes were – hold your breath – adding a muffler, adding a front facing camera, and some other trivial item. JLTV can run circles around ANY HMMWV; the original HMMWV or the current up-armored ones. Circles, big or small, with a 3,500 pound payload (4-door) or a 5,100 pound payload (2-door). JLTV is built for the current conflicts – AND for the future. Anywhere in the world. It has 10Kw onboard power – and 10Kw exportable power, and is fully NET-ready. Superior protection, superior reliability, superior performance all around.
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  112.  @JamesPhieffer  Good answer. Someday...but not TODAY.
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  113. Same company makes both.
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  114.  @thatrealba  Operators (drivers) get either 40 or 80 hours...usually teachers are from Oshkosh. Gone are the days of driving around the motor pool & getting a license. Training is classroom & highway & cross country. Can likely find a Youtube video of USMC training.
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  115. They look the same, but JLTV has capabilities MATV doesn't: 10Kw onboard & exportable electric power, off-road mobility superior to a HMMWV, transportable by C-130 & CH-47, air droppable by parachute, its own trailer is available, NET-ready, 11,000 pound towed load capability, etc.
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  116.  @americanoutdoorsman_1133  A true oversimplification, & utterly false / sophomoric.
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  117. Half? What did the folks do to them? // No one else has noticed this...95% OR rate overall?
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  118. The IG report is OLD NEWS today; who CARES about minor problems from 2 years ago that were quickly solved, other than needle-penised bug fornicators? The Big Fixes were – hold your breath – adding a muffler, adding a front facing camera, and some other trivial item. JLTV can run circles around ANY HMMWV; the original HMMWV or the current up-armored ones. Circles, big or small, with a 3,500 pound payload (4-door) or a 5,100 pound payload (2-door). JLTV is built for the current conflicts – AND for the future. Anywhere in the world. It has 10Kw onboard power – and 10Kw exportable power, and is fully NET-ready. Superior protection, superior reliability, superior performance all around. Transportable by C130, C17, C5, CH47, CH53, and airdrop certified. Designed and tested to mount TOW, M2, M240, & M249. 30MM have been added as a proof of principle.
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  119. An unarmed yota would last about 10 minutes against the US Army / USMC. Maybe.
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  120. Colin is a great guy. A lawyer, too...interesting.
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  121. It underwent HUNDREDS of thousands of miles of testing...and blast testing.
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  122. Accuracy wasn't this guys strong suit. Same with Honesty...he did a reclama video.
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  123. Others assert the windows are not BIG enough.
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  124. TOP Secret docs stored in a box in a garage is a HUGE deal. Borderline TREASON.
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  125. It will run CIRCLES around any HMMWV, on or off road.
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  126. Whoopty-doo...they can fly fast & low. By end of cruise, they will have strafed destroyer with a 105MM mini-gun, but missed, or dropped a 30 Megaton bomb (& also missed). , or so sayeth the cooks who were sleeping....
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  127.  @killaben85  Yup - first fielded in JAN 2019.
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  128. Whoever we WANT to...thats who. And they will get beaten like a DRUM. Bang Bang Bang...thats how the USA does it.
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  129. He got a LOT wrong in the first video...like 80% or more.
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  130. YES – it HAS AC. YES – it HAS AC. Electronics survived Yuma in the summertime…
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  131.  @aizseeker3622  JOINT (more than one service) Light Tactical Vehicle. USMC participated in every step of the way in getting these things...and changed their requirement from 5,000 to 15,000 vehicles. They seem to like them....
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  132. No such thing as overkill with an armed robber. Go cry somewhere else.
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  133.  @millzhale4223  I've seen about 8 - 12 A$$holes get capped...didn't bother me then, doesn't bother me now. Some were actually hilarious; one fell on a hut & an old woman came out and beat him with a club for ruining her "home." We ALL howled with laughter. (Mog 1993) :)
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  134. No they didn't. NEVER been there.
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  135. How do you know that? (And, shape of anything isn't relevant; JLTV was subject to a variety of ballistic tests, ALL of which it passed.)
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  136.  @lepmuhangpa  This was an informal demo...NOT a test. This vehicle is light-years ahead of HMMWV, and ALL MRAPS.
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  137. OFF ROAD it runs CIRCLES around ANY HMMWV.
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  138. JLTV is NOT a MATV, same company, JLTV has much better reliability & off road mobility. Much better.
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  139. The last HMMWV was bought around 2010 or so, though service life extensions may be ongoing.
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  140. It IS STUPID... 21 year Army vet. Screaming is for moral & physical COWARDS, HIDING behind their rank.
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  141. Original jeep would get vaporized against a small bomb / ied.
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  142.  @iamtheonlywilly  Was tested at Yuma & 29 Palms & Alaska, etc. All environments, all temps.
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  143. Good. Please correct the naysayers on this page.
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  144. NONE are there.
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  145. Off road mobility sucks; can't transport by CH47. MATV Job One is protection; JLTV is more balanced. JLTV is a lot lighter & can be transported by CH47 - limited distance.
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  146. Thats a promo video...NOT testing.
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  147. Sir - Nope. JLTV is the most capable “light” vehicle the Army or USMC have ever fielded. JLTV can run circles around ANY HMMWV; the original HMMWV or the current up-armored ones. Circles, big or small, with a 3,500 pound payload (4-door) or a 5,100 pound payload (2-door). Towing capacity of 11,000 pounds. Mobility in soft soil / soft sand far superior to any MRAP or any HMMWV. JLTV is built for the current conflicts – AND for the future - anywhere in the world, anytime. It has 10Kw onboard power, 10Kw exportable power, and is fully NET-ready.
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  148. MATV is NOT a JLTV. JLTV will run circles around any MRAP, on or off road. Same company builds both JLTV & MATV.
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  149.  @tyquanwashington.8510  Much much better – JLTV can run circles around any HMMWV off-road, or on. And, has 10Kw onboard power, NET-ready, ergonomic seats, etc.
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  150. That is amazing, isn't it? Tracing simple things & IDing who worked on it...
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  151.  @bowtoy  ChaChinga-tu.
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  152.  @Republicanismisadisease  ChaChinga Tu. I SEE about $20K of MY money a year in fed taxes supporting worthless POS who do NOTHING for anyone...except using their SNAP cards & Section 8 vouchers. I'm SUBSIDIZING their lives, while they sit around & do nothing, FU&FJB.
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  153. Yer right. JLTV is going to the BCTs, mainly...for now.
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  154. This will run circles around a LMTV, with a whole lotta armor.
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  155. JLTV has superior soft-soil mobility over M-ATV, more reliable, extremely smooth ride, 10Kw onboard power, 10Kw exportable power, NET-ready, VICTORY architecture compliant. Can mount every weapon currently mounted on HMMWV (M2, M240, M249, Mk19).
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  156.  @josiahj1033  I fit comfortably in all four seats, & I'm 6 foot 3 inches. Seats were designed to be wearing LBE. But, there are nit-pickers who would complain if hung with a used rope. Cubic feet wise, the JLTV is about the same size as a HMMWV. There is a storage area behind the cab. Its not perfect, but it provides well-protected off-road mobility.
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  157. What a disgusting POS. Sure hope he got tazed a lot, & that he can't make bail, if offered bail.
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  158. JLTV was the result of YEARS of testing. Your "generals son" remark is obtuse. That means STUPID.
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  159. What if? I doubt anything like those will ever happen.
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  160. No. Unless ya drop it from 50 feet... :)
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  161. There are over 2,000,000 on the road...
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  162. 00.00. Thats how many. Biden is a POS, but no JLTV were there.
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  163. Mucho difference. Mobility, electric power, etc.
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  164. How about US ARMY Paratroopers, and Infantry, and SFOD-D, and ALL SOLDIERS who have been doing that since 1775. USMC - for the most part, a collection of undereducated buffoons.
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  165. I NEVER heard the M151 called a "mutt." And ford didn't build the M151.
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  166. It can perform nearly every mission the HMMWV performed, only JLTV has better off-road mobility in soft soil / sand dunes, can provide 10Kw of onboard & exportable electrical power, has MRAP-like protection, NET-ready, 11,000 pound towed load, etc. yet still able to be sling-loaded under a CH-47 / CH-53K.
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  167. Thats the DoD standard. Fuel tankers abound...
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  168. Tested in Alaska, so, yes.
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  169. Unless one wants to stay alive, which is sorta important.
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  170. Can you give some examples why you say this? Final production was approved by the current Army Chief of Staff, after small mods were made.
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  171. The Operational Test unit was composed of biggest crybabies in the US of A. I don't know how many wussies could be in a single unit...but they were.
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  172. "Silent Mobility?" Here we go again. As if you can hide a pack of tracked vehicles (Bradley replacement + M1 Abrams + all support vehicles...). NO one will hear the tracks, or see a huge movement that Helen Keller could sense, or see the dust cloud, OR have access to cheap drones with cameras that can find the armored force(s) 20 miles out.
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  173. The HMMWV radiator is on top of the engine. Nearly every military truck has their radiator in front....thats how cooling takes place. And - armoring is for the CREW, NOT the engine.
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  174. Shouting & Screaming at People = Physical & Moral Cowardice. US Army, Retired.
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  175.  @Ricossmft28  JLTV has much better off-road capability, & 10Kw onboard & 10Kw exportable power, is able to be sling-loaded, air-dropped by parachute, etc. MATV Job #1 was protection...JLTV has lots more capabilities.
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  176.  @canadaarm3  Yup...night & day difference. Mobility, power, NET-ready. But you know that! Yinz done good.
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  177. It only got WORSE with armor.
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  178. You need not wonder.
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  179. You KNOW its electronics will fail? Find any new commercial car / truck that DOESN'T have electronics. // The army supposedly has the best & brightest...so some say - and they can't use common commercial technology? // Front camera provides visibility to within 2 feet of bumper.
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  180.  @NoQuestions4sked  500,000+ miles of testing in desert / arctic / maryland / mojave desert etc. disprove assertion of unreliability. One can get the test reports if they want them; most aren't classified. // Nearly all components are commercial technology; mebbe you are too pessimistic? :)
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  181. No more exposed than HMMWV was, or any other military truck. Protecting the crew is the intent. Any hit in the engine area can disable any vehicle.
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  182. Ya might mean MRAP-ATV? JLTV looks like a scaled down truck that looks similar to MATV.
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  183. Hit him with a MUG! Gee - the punk was dead...ya think he felt it?
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  184.  @Chihcoin  Too bad..so sad. A POS got capped AND hit in the head with a mug. I've seen about 8 - 12 A$$holes capped...they ALL got what they asked for. FJB.
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  185.  @qefewfwdcwdc  41 years experience por moi VS some twit that doesn't know a penis from a vagina.
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  186.  @qefewfwdcwdc  Nope - it does what CONGRESS approves moola for. Ye gads...do you READ what you write? How sophomoric.
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  187. This vehicle will keep the crew alive. And Oshkosh is selling them for LESS than they could...its not ALL about profit for them.
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  188. JLTV has soft soil mobility the MATV could only dream of. And, has 10Kw Onboard & 10Kw Exportable power, Victory compliant for ease of various electronics, and is 10X as reliable as any HMMWV. MATV Job 1 was PROTECTION. JLTV has it all, or nearly all.
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  189. Thats some shoooting....
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  190. In the JLTV competition, OTC mad the other two firms look silly. Worse than silly...they looked & performed terribly in testing.
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  191. Its a New Start. It will replace many HMMWVs, but it has capabilities the HMMWV could only dream about...
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  192. It has been fielded for 3 years, & is the studliest vehicle ever built. But some folks just hate spending money on something that isn't needed day to day at Fort Dork in the US. Some have their own Pet Rocks / Systems that could use JLTV money...and screw the troops at the tip of the spear the day they have to roll into Indian Country...
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  193. Actually, the cup-holders are FREE. And Oshkosh charged LESS per vehicle than they COULD have charged. How about that?
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  194. To some degree, its lack of training & supervision at the unit level. I saw three brand-new rough terrain container cranes (RTCC) deadlined w/in 3 days of issuance...cuz the unit had blown off available training courses. There were 250 people in the unit, they had six available slots - funded by the PM - but they sent NO ONE for operator or maintainer training. They tried blaming me (I was the Battalion S-4, Logistics Officer). Fortunately, I had kept detailed records of how I nearly begged them to send people for training.
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  195. Oshkosh Truck Co. makes them...as well as about 85 - 90 % of the vehicles the US Army & USMC makes. They build good trucks, though occasionally some small problem arises. And some E4 or E5 high school dropout who fancies himself an automotive engineer makes genius-level recommendations...
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  196. True. But they become automotive engineers after driving it for 2 hours... :)
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  197. JLTV not fielded till 2019. Likely ya had MATV, which looks a lot like JLTV; same company makes them.
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  198.  @blkhemi3925  The price is sorta expensive, but when ya consider ya can actually SURVIVE small arms fire / many IEDs, its worth it, IMHO. Whats the price of 4 dead Soldiers, or worse, 4 quadriplegics? A: A lot. // The off-road mobility of JLTV is excellent - can run circles around an unarmored HMMWV, w/ a full payload. // The "report" quoted in the video is pure BS...the authors of the report just basically used their limited experience & didn't look at the ACTUAL reliability test reports. They said since its bigger it gotta be more unreliable...cuz they were self-proclaimed experts.
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  199. JLTV has capabilities MATV doesn't; soft soil mobility, reliability, 10Kw exportable power, etc.
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  200. Mufflers have been added, even though there are plenty of Army ground vehicles that are nosier.
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  201. Its smaller than a Stryker, Bradley, & Abrams, and ALL MRAPS. Beyond 200 yards, size difference between JLTV & HMMWV is not relevant. #1 Detection issue is movement; #2 is dust plume.
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  202. Probably didn't have a reflective vest on...how I survived 21 years w/o an effing belt is a miracle. :) :) :)
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  203.  @dickrichard5579  I think I know, but I never tried to sleep in a HMMWV. Most of my HMMWV experience was in Mogadishu, & I wouldn't dream of sleeping in one there. :) Zilch armor then, less sandbags stacked so high the thing had trouble starting up a small hill.
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  204.  @dickrichard5579  Was sorta exciting at times...no armored HMMWVs existed, so ya do what yer told. Was really exciting riding in a Black Hawk, 100 feet AGL, 120 MPH. :) / The REAL heroes were the troops of the 2nd BN., 14th Inf Regiment, 10th Mountain Division. Day in day out, they walked the streets. And saved TF Ranger in early OCT 1993.
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  205. DARPA is full of dumba$$ ideas.
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  206. JLTV tested in Alaska, Arizona, & Maryland, well over 200,000 miles. Plus an operational test with a crybaby unit from FT Campbell...
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  207. The USMC LOVE them. Far from useless.
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  208. 49,099 is the number. Lots of HMMWVS will be around. And the maintenance issue is over-stated.
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  209. They underwent ballistic & technical testing by the best test agency in the world - and passed.
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  210. Everything in the video is common knowledge / totally unclassified.
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  211. Units usually need to buy the fording kit. And, most units never ford anything deeper than a foot or two...plus, the Engineers have plenty of bridges.
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  212. No. Totally different vehicle.
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  213. Oh...a GENIUS. Tell yer brigade commander...you will be a civilian in 2 - 6 years. Bon Voyage.
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  214.  @bryanx590  Same-o same-o on HMMWV, or FMTV, or HEMTT; the armor is for the crew - NOT the motor. Or, ya would end up w/ a 40 ton HMMWV replacement. Troops are more important than a truck.
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  215.  @bryanx590  The intent us to protect the CREW....not the engine. Otherwise, it would weigh 30 tons.
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  216.  @bryanx590  The armor is for the crew. If the engine - or tires - or transmission - were armored - ya couldn't slingload it. Or transport on a C-130. Etc.
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  217.  @davidjames2145  David; Yup - Putin is the newest evil SOB around...and there are a dozen more just like him that don't get much attention. His days are numbered... // IRT JLTV: With very FEW exceptions, US military ground eqpt is designed to work in any theater of operations, at temperature ranges from + 120F down to -25F...and kits can take it lower. It was tested in the desert (Yuma AZ), in Alaska, in Maryland...and passed ALL tests. No country can afford different trucks for different areas.
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  218.  @battlerapperd1654  Mechanics get FORTY hours of training on the JLTV. Unless the mechanics don't show up...
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  219. Yer a genius, right? Who won 2016? Twasn't dear hillary...and odds are on Trump for 2020.
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  220.  @foxtrot9898  3ID got the first ones ~ Jan 2019, fielded at FT Stewart. Mebbe they deployed them after that? Or...MATV looks just like it.
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  221. Sure...everyone knows that - NOT.
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  222. What STUDLY behavior!
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  223. JLTV will run circles around a MATV in soft soil / sand, provide 10Kw onboard power & 10Kw exportable power, provide MATV-like protection, fixed-wing & CH47 transportable, and far far superior reliability. Thats just a start of the ways they differ.
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  224. This vehicle was NOT designed to operate exclusively on ANY sort of road. It is designed to allow MANEUVER off-road to gain a position of tactical advantage. A Pass / Fail requirement is Soft Soil Mobility, e.g., (1) Mud and (2) Sand Dunes. It passed these tests easily; it will run CIRCLES off-road around any HMMWV and the MATV.
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  225.  @shonuffisthemaster  Oshkosh chose the engine. And...there are way over 2,000,000 duramax engines out there.
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  226.  @shonuffisthemaster  The Duramax's were modified by Gail Banks, supposedly an expert on engines. The choice of engines was Oshkosh's, NOT DoD. (If DoD directs an item, they are responsible for all outcomes...something that isn't good.) Cost was definitely a factor is this entire program, so that may have been a factor. But I agree Detroit Diesel, Cummins, etc. make some tremendous engines, especially for marine (boat) applications. But we shall see how they hold up - but with over 2,000,000 Duramax engines on the road, then mebbe are doing something right. Thx.
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  227.  @shonuffisthemaster  Oshkosh chose the engine...not the govt.
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  228. Its about a foot higher than a HMMWV...and shorter than Bradleys & Strykers. An extra foot from 100 yards isn't noticeable. Biggest giveaway for any vehicle is movement, then (in arid locals), dust plumes.
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  229.  @kenji214245  JLTV provides much more protection than any HMMWV; it's off-road mobility is also much much better (I've seen the test reports); and the on-board & exportable power / NET-ready make adding comms gear / weapons much easier. Ride quality is better, as is the HVAC. NOT perfect, but I'd prefer a JLTV to a HMMWV any day. (MOVEMENT & dust plumes are still biggest telltale signs of any vehicle. If it was a bit shorter it would be "OK," but distance from blast & wheel travel are the benefits.)
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  230.  @kenji214245  Concealment is provided by camo nets & use of terrain. // NOT intended as a "combat vehicle" in the sense Bradley's, Abrams, Strykers ARE combat vehicles. Is being fielded to nearly all BCTs (IN, Armor, Stryker, etc.) // Four variants are C&C; Heavy Guns Carrier (M2, Mk19, M240, ...); TOW Carrier; and Utility (2-seater). // 28 years ago I was in Mogadishu...the extra height woulda been immaterial. From 200 yards (typical limit of sight in that place) - if one can see a HMMWV, one can see a JLTV, or an MRAP, etc. When I wasn't walking or flying, I rode in unarmored HMMWVs w/ 1,500 lbs. of sandbags, nearly meaningless except for protecting feet from small arms fire. Woulda loved a JLTV, an MRAP, or even an armored HMMWV, but they weren't fielded, besides some POS prototype whose tires went flat overnight. // Against a "comparable foe," the Apaches, Bradleys, Strykers, & Abrams are gonna be doing the most work....not a JLTV, less a TOW Carrier that finds a target.
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  231. Nope. 0.00, or NONE.
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  232. Tis NOT intended to be an IFV...thats what Strykers & Bradleys are for.
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  233.  @MatoVuc  It would FAIL in Transportability and be MARGINAL in Soft-soil mobility if that was done.
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  234.  @MatoVuc  How much more? Mebbe about 1,500 pounds + / -. But a CRITICAL requirement for JLTV is external air transport by CH47 to X distance. Every pound counts. Ask Oshkosh Truck Co. if ya don't believe me. Ciao.
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  235. Good.
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  236. CORRUPTION? The POS commie dems have ben mounting BS investigations with NO CRIME FOUND. Dems hate the fact that in some years DT paid more taxes than they will make in their miserable SNAP-carding lives. FJB.
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  237. Saving Troops lives, and providing unapparelled levels of Payload Performance and Protection is a WASTE? Two guys named Milley & McConville didn't think so.
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  238.  @qefewfwdcwdc  Here are some FACTS: JLTV is the most capable “light” vehicle the Army or USMC have ever fielded. Superior protection, superior reliability, superior performance all around. JLTV can run circles around ANY HMMWV; the original HMMWV or the current up-armored ones, in soft soil / sand or on highways. 3,500-pound payload (4-door) or a 5,100-pound payload (2-door); a JLTV trailer completes the family. (HMMWV trailers were destroyed when towed behind the JLTV…they aren’t designed to negotiate the terrain JLTV can handle.) JLTV is built for the current conflicts – AND for the future, anywhere in the world. 10Kw onboard power & 10Kw exportable power, fully NET-ready & VICTORY compliant. Transportable by C130, C17, C5, CH47, CH53, and airdrop certified. Designed and tested to mount remote weapons system, TOW, Mk-19, M2, M240, & M249. 30MM have been added as a proof of principle; USMC is mounting ANTI-SHIP MISSILES on it.
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  239. Duh...none are in Afghanistan.
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  240. The "producers" did minimal research, which is typical for the I Know Everything "military journalists." They talk a bunch of sophomoric trash.
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  241. APC = automatic colt pistol.
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  242. BIG issues! VERY big issues. Solutions were to add a muffler; make back windows bigger; and add a small camera to the front grill. Thats about it for the GAO "problems." GAO makes mountains out of mole specks...they do that well, but nothing else. JLTV is the STUDLIEST light wheeled vehicle the Army & Marines have ever had.
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  243. Major problems? Fixes were bigger rear windows, a front camera, and a muffler. Daily News & others don't know their head from a sandwich...but they have to print something. Even if its BS.
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  244. Test results = ~8,000 miles between breakdowns. HMMWV = 4X less.
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  245. Gee...thats too bad. 48% pay ZERO federal income taxes...are you among the 52% that do pay?
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  246. Zero. 0.000.
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  247. Same company makes / made both. JLTV is about 30-35% SMALLER & has much more off-road capability, besides having 10Kw onboard power / 10Kw exportable power, fully NET-Ready, 11,000 pound towed load capability, cab fire suppression system, Central Tire Inflation System (CTIS), air-droppable by parachute, can be sling-loaded under CH-47 / CH-53, ergonomic seats etc. BOTH have air conditioning, which is sorta mandatory unless in the Arctic.
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  248. It could handle it easily, but weapons are authorized separately from the vehicles. I prefer the M-240 in 7.62 MM; can carry more ammo for it. But to each his/her own.
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  249. You are totally wrong. It is designed for ANY war, anywhere, anytime. It shoots, moves, and enables communication - all of which are necessary in any conflict.
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  250. JLTV was only fielded starting in JAN 2019...or do ya mean MATV or HMMWV?
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  251. Was sorta fun...
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  252.  @sarathewonderful7561  We are too busy driving BMWs & skiing the Alps. Chinga tu. How goes begging?
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  253. Was tested for about 3 years, hundreds of thousands of miles, in Maryland, Alaska, and Arizona. Everything breaks sooner or later, but this is light-years ahead of HMMWV / MRAP.
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  254. JLTV can move cross country in sand / soft soil where MATV woulda been stuck. That, along w/ MRAP level protection, ready to mount nearly ANY comms / electrical system, 10Kw onboard & 10Kw exportable power, set JLTV apart from MATV.
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  255. Who cares what the hood is made of? Tis NOT a trampoline. // Batteries die all the time; stop at an auto parts store & see what they have...BATTERIES. // EVERY engine on EVERY wheeled vehicle in the Army & USMC is "exposed." // The CREW is important - NOT an engine.
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  256. If ya wanna drive up and down a paved road...MRAP is for you. If ya wanna maneuver - JLTV is the ONLY choice.
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  257. Actually, will run CIRCLES around ANY HMMWV, on road or off. Easily.
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  258. Graduated from jump school in 1973. Day 1 was the PT test, 6 chin-ups, X pushups, Y situps, etc. Many failed the chin-ups & were sent away, FAR away. No wings for them. I was one of four in a four-man room. By the middle of week 2...I was all alone in the room. Then...lo & behold, about 5 or 6 years later, I started seeing women with jump wings. No way in hell could they do the chin-ups. Hmm I wonders - WTF? Seems they didn't HAVE to meet the standards...all they had to do was HANG FROM THE BAR for a minute or two. How about that? Ain't America great?
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  259. Accuracy didn't matter to these guys...OR research. Speculation & BS = their version of journalism.
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  260.  @IronWarhorsesFun  When the President is a crook & skedaddles...why would a typical grunt stay & fight & die? BTHOOM, but God bless them.
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  261.  @paulwilliams8555  It wasn't totalled. Rolled away AOK. Ya can roll ANYTHING if ya try... did it to FMTVs 6 months after fielding. But JLTV occupants will survive, if seatbelts are on.
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  262. One can roll anything. Anything. Thats why the training for this vehicle is about 2 weeks long.
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  263.  @dannykh22asirify  One was rolled. but NOT totaled. Was running a few hours later. (Driver error was the cause of mishap.)
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  264. Payload, Performance, and Protection were three variables the vehicle faced. They did a great job of providing MRAP-like protection on a vehicle that can run circles around any HMMWV on or off-road. And can tow 11,000 pounds, provide 10K of on-board and 10K exportable power, etc.
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  265. One track minds are useless...except to keep psych hospitals alive.
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  266. Sir- It wasn't feasible. Starting with a 20+ year old design & trying to make it work was mission near-impossible. Sometimes a New Start is the best choice...if ya wanna save the troops & give them modern equipment.
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  267. As long as ya ain't getting shot at, & can afford the fuel / repair costs.
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  268. Yes. And the AC works.
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  269.  @manictiger  NO JLTV went to the Taliban. ZERO. NONE.
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  270.  @manictiger  Oshkosh makes / made the MRAP-ATV. It LOOKS like the JLTV, but is about 25% bigger. MRAP-ATV was fielded throughout the theater; not so the JLTV.
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  271. The cupholders are a freebie from Oshkosh. Army / USMC didn't ask for them.
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  272.  @havenhemmings3574  Sir - I dunno about ALL programs, but the JLTV program was lauded as a Poster Child for Program Management. Oshkosh is selling the vehicles for LESS than they contractually could. How many commercial sellers do that? Of course, a NEW contract is coming soon, & other manufacturers can bid on it, so past performance will be a factor in the next contract award. Take care.
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  273. Was named that a million years ago.
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  274. Collin - What do you mean by "The JLTV is a death machine. ?" Sounds like you like it???? Especially as compared to the HMMWV.
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  275. Has capabilities the MATV never had...
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  276. 0.000000
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  277.  @theimmortal4718  The "light" unarmored vehicles do nothing of importance that the ORIGINAL HMMWV didn't do. They added some trivial capability and said it was superior because of blah blah blah BS. They bamboozled some generals...one of whom is now retired & the VP of a company making the little vehicle. Ain't that heart-warming? No fraud waste abuse in those programs....
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  278. Armored HMMWVGs weren't usually allowed off FOBS due to weakness in protection. JLTV has MRAP-like protection.
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  279. Soft soil mobility. 10Kw onboard AND exportable power. Helicopter sling load capability. Airdrop capable. Etc.
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  280. If ya wanna have yer intestines spread over 15 yards & be missing arms & legs & genitals...go ahead & keep the HMMWV. If ya wanna live & accomplish missions, use the JLTV.
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  281.  @chocolat-kun8689  Yes. It has AC.
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  282. No - to fit on ships where a HMMWV once was.
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  283. ONE - a woman MUREDERD by a POS cop.
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  284. Thx...good point, though some will refuse to accept facts.
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  285. No - its made in Wisconsin by Oshkosh Truck Corp.
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  286. Same company made them. MATV (& other MRAPs) Job One was protection. JLTV has much better soft-soil mobility, 10Kw onboard & exportable power, 11,000 pound towed load capacity, NET ready, etc.
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  287.  @Ph33NIXx  It claims to, though its hard to tell what the exact shape is (I haven't climbed under one). The important thing is that it passed all the ballistic / blast tests, likely building on the design of the MATV. (Its about time our troops are protected when going into hostile areas...interest in such things by the Big Kahunas weakens when no one is dying. They seem more interested in their pet projects...pardon my cynicism.)
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  288.  @Ph33NIXx  Sir - MATV et al did very well on roads...less so off road. JLTV brings back off-road mobility, protection, & many other attributes.
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  289. Joint: Means more than one service uses it. Light: Meaning it performs roles customarily performed by light vehicles, or NON-medium, NON-heavy vehicles. Tactical: Operates at the tactical level (brigade level & below), as opposed to the strategic or operational level. Vehicle: Propels itself. //// It has NOTHING to do with how much it weighs.
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  290. 00.00
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  291. The Army - the Big Boys - evaluate and BUY systems based on what their CAPABILITIES are, NOT by what they LOOK LIKE. With a HMMWV, one can look Cool...and be blown into 300 pieces, none much bigger than a Hamburger. With a JLTV, one can look UNCOOL, and accomplish the Mission AND come back in one piece.
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  292.  @napoleonibonaparte7198  Who CARES what you think about DJT? This video is about machineguns...DUH.
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  293.  @godofallthingsandall  You betcha. EAT - external air transport - is critical for light units.
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  294. Too bad, huh?
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  295. Toyota could have entered the competition, if they wanted. But they would never pass the ballistics testing. JLTV will keep people alive.
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  296. This ":thing" meets / exceeds all stated requirements; can run circles around any HMMWV on or off road; can tow 11,000 pounds; can produce 10K onboard and 10K exportable power, is fully NET ready; is going to replace nearly ALL HMMWVs in the USMC; is able to be sling-loaded by CH47; air dropped from C130 / C17; and has protection MRAP-like. But you don't like how it looks? The manufacturer (Oshkosh) makes about 90% of vehicles used by the Army & USMC.
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  297.  @usmanali7222  Yer welcome...NOT. :)
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  298. Gee...the GMV does nearly EXACTLY what the original HMMWV did. How about that?
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  299. It passed extensive stability tests. Wider than the HMMWV.
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  300.  @FrozenHawkHunter  Agree - ya can roll anything if one tries. JLTV underwent 40% side-slope testing (Most get queasy at 12%); NATO Lane Change tests (Change lanes twice at high speed in a short distance; and steady-state cornering (driving around in a fast circle). Thats one reason one of the key operational reqmts is "TRAINING." No more drive around the motor pool & get handed a license.
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  301. Anything can be rolled, if one tries hard enough. JLTV passed side-slope tests, steady state cornering tests, and the NATO lane change tests, where a vehicle swerves from one lane to another, then swerves pack to the original lane. Operators are supposed to recv 40 hours of training. So, yes, one CAN roll it, if they disregard training and act stupid. It was tested for several hundred thousand miles...
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  302.  @LaikaTheG  "Always" be flipped, huh? Gee - do you believe that? That the Army / USMC would spend BILLIONS of dollars on a truck that would "always be flipped?" And is about to award another contract for the same vehicle?
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  303. NO ONE has been charged...and it has been OVER 5 months. Are they waiting for hell to freeze over? (And who cares what your race is??? It really doesn't matter...)
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  304.  @sofineri2471  They ARE transportable by CH-47 & CH53. Not as far as a unarmored HMMWV, but armor weighs more.
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  305. If one wants to be in about 300 pieces, the HMMWV is the vehicle of choice. If one wants to live & have all body parts, the JLTV is the thing to have.
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  306. MRAP was a short-term fix...it was a 1-trick pony - PROTECTION. On soft soil, MRAPs suck. JLTV excels in soft soil & loose sand.
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  307. Public release??? It was fielded way back in 2019, nearly 3 years ago.
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  308. Cheney & Dubya just KNEW the Iraqis were gonna welcome the US with open arms.
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  309.  @aizseeker3622  An Abrams woulda been at least saying "We have lift off." At least a tad... :) (It really ain't funny, but WTF is?)
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  310. It underwent lots of blast testing. Lots.
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  311. JLTV wasn't fielded till 2019. You likely had the MATV, same company makes both.
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  312. Nope.
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  313. Mechanics recv two weeks of training. The vehicle underwent several hundred thousand miles of testing; any flaws were corrected.
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  314.  @battlerapperd1654  It DID undergo YEARS of testing (2015 - 2019); Fact. If Fire Extinguisher goes off it obviously needs to get fixed; Oshkosh will fix it. It wasn't a regular item in testing. / IRT trailers - so what? There is a JLTV-Trailer being fielded...just like there is a HMMWV trailer. Mebbe if units didn't take everything including the kitchen sink they would have more room.
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  315. ANY Toyota, going against a JLTV or ANY armored vehicle, would last about 10 seconds or 60 rounds of 7.62MM, whichever came first. Fact.
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  316. FT Polk is the place I NEVER want to go back to. It sucketh. The people off-post were the most rude & crude & porcine-like I've ever encountered.
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  317. The SF units, including the 75th Ranger Regt; the cream of the crop. "I'd rather have two dozen tigers than 200 sheep" may be a slight exaggeration. But not much.
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  318.  @nexpro6118  "The SF units AND the Rangers...:" happy now?
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  319. No Yota has extensive ballistic protection, 10Kw onboard power, can be dropped by parachute, slingloaded by a helicopter, tow 11,000 pounds at a GVW of over 22,000 pounds, mount remote weapons station, etc. Yotas are good...but not for going to war & surviving.
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  320. JLTV PASED extensive blast protection & small arms fire testing with ease. What it "LOOKS" like isn't really important.
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  321. Has been there about 90years w/ the same name.
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  322. "IEDs" have been around for 100's of years. People got blown-up in WW1, WW2, Vietnam, Somalia, etc. They will likely ALWAYS be around; its a poor mans artillery. / Is NOT intended as a replcmnt for Strykers; is a General Purpose vehicle to replace the HMMWV - basically the same missions as HMMWV.
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  323. The ORIGINAL HMMWV could perform ~90% of the GMV original requirements. So...the GMV original requirements were changed...the Boys Wanted New Toys. // JLTV is able to be air-dropped by C130 etc...but the Boys the Boys Wanted New Toys.
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  324. A tremendous day for the Capitol Police...they leave scaffolding in place; were they inviting people to climb in?
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  325. LOT'S more capability than MATV. Same company built both.
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  326. True...but there were FAR more than two. The TWO took the shots all others woulda done.
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  327. JLTV off road in soft soil is much better than ANY MRAP.
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  328.  @Fng_1975  MATV off-road mobility sukketh compared to JLTV. MATV IS a MRAP...just the tiniest. M = MRAP. Fact.
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  329. Same company builds them.
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  330. I suppose traditions are fine / have SOME use...but that is a LOT of people to proclaim what everybody sorta knows....Big Nose is Da King. And he & his gang wander around pretending they are, somehow, important.
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  331. The "issues" WERE TRIVIAL...the BIG FIXES were adding a MUFFLER, making the rear windows BIGGER, and adding a front CAMERA. Thats about it. Troops ain't dying much so the Big Kahunas wanna spend money on THEIR toys, like long range cannon (whose barrels get stuck in the mud when being towed). Overall - in testing - the JLTV surpassed all requirements; the kahunas just nit-picked pretending they had problems to solve when in reality they wanna steal JLTV funds & spend on their toys. And screw the troops if they need a JLTV but have a HMMWV which is a death trap.
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  332. The ONLY thing DoD / DoE makes is nuclear weapons. All else is made by various companies.
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  333. You have no pity for the WINNERS? Go cry w/ yer sorry losers party.
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  334. No one ever thought of that.
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  335. Taliban have 0.000 JLTV. Yer making things up...
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  336. I rode in the JLTV...didn't seem that loud to me. Was much more quite than any HMMWV I rode in. // Its been fielded for over two years...as big of crybabies in the Army are, if it was too loud more people would have complained. A muffler was added after operational testing, even though JLTV sits right in the middle when comparing noise level of military trucks. Half noiser, half quiter.
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  337.  @tratzum  I retired a year or so ago, & the alternator noise 'issue' was supposed to be addressed by a different alternator. Don't know if it was to be retrofitted OR cut into the production line & made available as a repair part. Aside from that, I woulda loved to have had a JLTV in East Africa years ago...unarmored HMMWVs had zilch protection, & they generated more noise than the JLTVs I was in. But everyone has their own view / opinion.
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  338. It has many capabilities MATV doesn't. Off road mobility, transportable by CH47 / CH53, air droppable from C130 C17, NET-Ready, VICTORY compliant, etc.
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  339. Good point. Whatever it was...
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  340. Gee...neither the Commandant of the Marine Corps nor the Chief of Staff of the Army agree with that assertion.
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  341. What YOU think isn't relevant. his last shots mean nada...tis the first one that counts.
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  342. Yup - charge him with making too much noise. A misdemeanor everywhere. :)
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  343. Toyota could have got into the prototype phase; they didn't choose to do so. Why would they want to build about 60,000 vehicles over 15 years? They are doing well enuf in what they do.
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  344. "YOUNG MAN?" THIRTY year old convict...good riddance. Gov. Abbott hopefully will ensure NOTHING happens to the person who capped a POS.
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  345. The SF folks have much HIGHER GT scores than the rest of the Army...and much more maturity. That comes in handy all around, as compared to a bunch of 26 year old PV2s who beat around for years before enlisting, and suddenly become Automotive Engineers - in their minds.
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  346. ONE person died from a violent act on 6 Jan - a protester who was MURDERED by a POS "cop."
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  347. Was tested in Alaska - no major issues.
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  348. Not if one values human life. Jeep & original HMMWV were OK, unless one is getting shot at / exposed to explosive devices.
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  349. Isiah is complaining about a POS getting shot in the head after he is dead...charge the HERO him with discharging a firearm in a public place.
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  350. This isn't an "arrmored infantry vehicle."
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  351. IF occupants took their seatbelt off, and IF they had unrestrained cargo (12 pound ammo can), one COULD get killed.
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  352. No.
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  353.  @bwana-ma-coo-bah425  I doubt washington was smart enuf to OPERATE a REAL pistol. But WTF cares - the POS is DEAD. Too bad, huh?
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  354. Good..."journalists" don't wanna print that. They just keep on keeping on digging up reports YEARS & YEARS old.
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  355. Stationed in Europe in the 1980s; one of our senior NCO drivers for a 3-star carried a .357 Magnum revolver AND every morning stopped by the MP desk to pick up his MP-5, then picked up his armored Mercedes Benz. The 3-star took his security seriously; he had a Model 1911 for home defense.
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  356. Thats OLD news from 2 years ago...reload time has been fixed. And - when was last time a HMMWV-mounted TOW attacked a tank? A: Never. Bunch of nit pickers...
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  357. Not many, compared to other systems...
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  358. "Hangover?" How about the studliest Light(mission role) vehicle the Army / USMC has EVER had. Soft-soil mobility is one of the JLTV's Pass-Fail requirements. It was tested in muddy soil AND on a 30% sand dune; it passed both. You can check with the Army Test & Evaluation Command if you want to see the details. Bottom Line: It runs CIRCLES around ANY HMMWV. Any.
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  359.  @hellman9655  Have you EVER unzipped a body-bag? Identified a Soldier whose FACE was melted...and the nose is dripping onto the upper lip? If the answer is "no," you have absolutely ZERO idea of what you are talking about. The HMMWV is 100% unsuitable for combat where small arms fire & mines are prevalent...which is about 100% of the time in combat. HMMWVs are fine hanging around airports & seaports, but when one goes where the guns are firing, JLTV is the ONLY solution. Unless ya want your nose melted onto the upper lip. Or your body exploded into about 300 small pieces. :) :)
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  360. One critical requirement is the capability to be slingloaded by a CH47. A JLTV ambulance would be too heavy to meet that capability. Unless that requirement was waived / changed, a JLTV ambulance is a no-go.
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  361.  @libaaxcobra5986  Ya can't change a pig into a dog.
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  362. If you want to roll anything you can...a Camry or a 5-ton or an MRAP, etc. But extensive stability testing was conducted...including a 40% side slope test, at full payload; it passed. (Most people get squeamish at about 7-10% slide slopes... / NO louder than most mil vehicles...but there are now mufflers on them. / IRT "they suck." WHY did the USMC increase planned procurement from 5,500 to about 15,000?
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  363.  @charlesl5226  Yup. How much $$$ was wasted on M4 carbines, which may be a good idea for 11Bs, but a waste for most units? And the "original" Kevlar helmet fielded in mid-1980s was good enough for 95% of the troops, but the Good Idea Fairy shows up - with congressional "help" - and we end up buying new helmets for no good reason. The good old Military Industrial Complex President Eisenhower warned us about is alive & well, for sure...and the national debt keeps growing. My granddaughters grandchildren will be paying for this waste, fraud, & abuse. SOMEONE is getting rich off of this BS, but the operational capabilities aren't necessarily increasing.
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  364. Part of the test process is OPERATIONAL testing, by a unit that will recv the eqpt.
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  365. These "journalists" in the military spectrum do ZILCH research...many do ZERO.
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  366. No more complex than a 2022 VW Passat. If maintained properly, is 10 times more reliable than any HMMWV.
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  367.  @battlerapperd1654  BEFORE they are issued, they receive a 100% technical inspection AND undergo a test drive. What the gaining unit does after that is beyond the control of the fielding command. I have seen gaining units DESTROY new equipment within weeks of receiving it...due to STUPIDITY and LAZINESS and IDIOT officers and NCOs. FACT. And this Army is the "Best & Brightest?" Sure it is...
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  368. Hail to the THIEF. FJB.
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  369. It will keep troops alive AND keep on ticking.
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  370. The AFGHANS left that "stuff" to the Taliban...NOT the US.
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  371. No. JLTV has mobility MATV only dreams of.
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  372. The JLTV was fielded in 2019, after several iterations of Test & Evaluation process of various companies designs. Took about 14 years, as it was the Poster Child / First At Bat for the "new & improved" acquisition process. EVERYBODY at senior levels demanded their genius thoughts be tried....or they threatened to cancel the program. FACT.
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  373. Gee...I've fired thousands of rounds from my Beretta, and it has NEVER misfired, the safety has never malfunctioned, etc. Most problems are the fault of the operator.
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  374. The advent of cell phones essentially made MOST electronic devices EMP protected.
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  375. Ain't that the truth. Not a lotta people getting shot / blown up, so it looks like the Army wants to use JLTV money to but other toys that will never get used. E.g, Long range cannon, when a drone will out shoot any cannon. //// And they make the TRIVIAL problems sound like major ones... The Big Fixes were adding an effing muffler, and adding a front camera. Something that a high school auto tech school can do in a day or less...but Big Army has to bad mouth something to justify their OTHER toys. IMHO.
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  376. Army, No; USMC, just about all.
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  377.  @dwaneanderson8039  Except going off-road where HMMWVs would never dream of going, put out 10Kw onboard & exportable power, NET-Ready, 11,000 pound towed load, etc.
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  378. Nope. It was built for ANY conflict, ANY where, ANY time. Superb protection, superb mobility, enough electrical power for the foreseeable future, and plenty of payload. Shoot, Move, Communicate...it enable all of these things. USMC wanted 5,000 of them...later changed to 15,000. Its not perfect - but its a LOT better than an overweight HMMWV.
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  379. No. Designed for ANY conflict. It can Shoot, Move, & Communicate. Offroad mobility about 20 times better than an armored HMMWV. 10Kw onboard & 10Kw exportable power. Taller than a HMMWV for increased wheel travel & blast dissipation.
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  380.  @Cecil97  It's only about 14 inches (or mebbe less) taller than a HMMWV. From a distance of a couple hundred yards thats negligible; compare it to a 5 ft 6 inch soldier to a 6 ft 6 inch soldier. IRT spotting a vehicle, the biggest giveaways are 1. Movement, 2. Dust plumes in an arid / desert environment, and 3, large shadows, such as the cargo area of a 2 1/2 ton / 5 ton truck.. // Many HMMWV breakdowns to a large part were due to the shocks bottoming out...when that happens, many / most parts on the vehicle take a sudden impact, often more than they can handle. // From a "blast" perspective, the first XX inches belong to the blast...there's not much that can be done to dissipate the blast in that space. Raise the vehicle another YY inches, & the designers have some room to work. // Optics on ATGM - eg TOW - are so far advanced they can literally see a lizard laying beside a truck from ~ 2 miles. Given the amount of Drones & other aerial ISR assets, Bradleys & Abrams should be doing battle w/ IFVs, hopefully not trucks, though the JLTV, like the HMMWV, has a TOW variant. (All above based on detailed discussions w/ engineers who developed military's vehicles, VBIED experience going back 36 years, operations in deserts in the Middle East, & urban opns in Mog back in 1993, & two groups of terrorists trying to blow me & my fellow troops into little pieces in an urban area. Good times were had by all, less those who got PHs.)
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  381. Nope. HMMWV is too low to the ground, has inadequate underbody protection, off-road mobility stunk, reliability got worse & worse as armor was added. Hilux looks cool, till it takes a hit; then, everybody is vaporized.
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  382. JLTV is a lot better than the MATV...the same company makes both. All MRAPs were ruched into production & fielded - and Protection was Job Number 1. All else was secondary.
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  383.  spikedpsycho  The DOT&E are genius subject matter experts...just ask them. Ask them what their experience with subject vehicles is...and you'll get shut-upped & they change topics real fast. They have never found a system they like...cuz they get paid to be critics.
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  384.  @dilanmartinez2325  Whatever weapons the unit had get transferred to the JLTV. Weapons don't get issued with these.
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  385.  @AnrichBrooks  Has "MRAP-like" protection.
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  386.  @scratchy996  Not me. Ain't meant to win a beauty contest. :) USMC LOVES the JLTV. Army - some - think "its too big." The bigness provides room for blast dissipation & increased wheel travel - reduces wear on components. Cross country mobility in sand / mud...will run circles around any HMMWV. 10Kw onboard & 10Kw exportable power...NET ready, VICTORY Architecture compliant, etc. IMHO - studliest "light" vehicle DOD has ever had.
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  387.  @randyross5630  JLTV is designed for war, not CONUS police-call on post. It has an 11,000 towed load capacity.
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  388.  @Cecil97  Bradleys or Apaches are the vehicles that are gonna take on IFV. And past 200 yards...size difference is not discernible. Movement of an object is the primary means of detection, not size.
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  389. Yes. And airdrop too.
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  390. You could say the EXACT SAME THING about a Bradley, or a Stryker. Waste of money? The Chief of Staff of the US Army & the Commandant of the Marine Corps disagree with you.
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  391. The only ones that need armor protection are the ones that will get hit by a mine, IED, or small arms fire. If anyone knows which ones those are - please sound off.
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  392. So what? Many with a patch never left a FOB, never got shot at, never got mortared, never unzipped a body-bag...and many cried like babies the first time those things happened to them. But they have a little patch...and they consider themselves superior heroes.
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  393. It has no more computers than a 2018 VW Jetta.
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  394.  @Tagawichin  Seats 4 - just like the HMMWV. A JLTV trailer is available. The HMMWV trailer was destroyed when towed behind a JLTV because the HMMWV trailer couldn't handle the terrain / speeds the JLTV achieved.
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  395. Some claim they are too big, even though it is much shorter than a Stryker & Bradley, BOTH of which serve as Scout / Recon vehicles. But SOME hate anything new, unless they designed it...which most are too dumb to do.
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  396. NO foreign competitor ever expressed interest in making JLTV; MANY countries want to buy them. That is a fact.
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  397. No.
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  398. I'm 6' 3" & I fit in front & rear seats w/ plenty of leg room. Plenty. More than my Silverado...way more.
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  399. So is every other Army / USMC vehicle.
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  400. If ya ever seen anyone who was blown into the air by a bomb / IED you might have a different opinion. JLTVs are the way of the future for light wheeled vehicles that can go off-road in all military operations. They can shoot, move, & communicate.
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  401. Thats why the CSA, Cmdt of USMC, & Vice Chairman JCS approved JLTV. They are all stupid.
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  402. It was tested for about 3 years, a couple hundred thousand - mebbe a MILLION miles. Something breaks, ya fix it. JLTV vs. Technical...technical gets blown outta the water. Or, into a 1,000 pieces.
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  403. ACOG was the 99% solution. I dunno why they are spending millions on the last 1%...
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  404.  @John_Redcorn_  Yup...and "longer range" optics for a 5.56 weapon, whose energy is nearly all gone after 600-700 meters is a curious capability. Why not keep the ACOG & give a few pair of 20X binoculars to 3 people per squad? Enuf is enuf, I think. But no one asked me, can ya believe that?
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  405.  @peddler931  Maybe. But do you want an E3 designating a 2,000 lb. JDAM? Not me.
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  406. Try not to get shot, huh? You can do that be refusing to go on any mission...and get court-martialed & booted.
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  407. Not JLTVs...NONE were there. None.
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  408.  @bwana-ma-coo-bah425  Or...his friends will get capped too. Too effing bad, so sad. Chinga tu.
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  409. If ya wanna get blown 50 yards in the air...Toyota is yer truck. If ya ever unzipped bodybags, ya wouldn't want a Yota, unless in the USA.
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  410.  @rubenesparza7546  The faces of Soldiers BURNED to death...I see them every day. I found out the cartilage in the nose MELTS at high temps, and the tip of the nose drips down on the upper lip. Humor? Peace? Nope, not by a long shot. I avoid Arbys...cuz roasted human flesh smell like burned beef.
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  411.  @rubenesparza7546  The radio antennae clip banging around the outside drove me bonkers,,, :)
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  412. Why would anyone WANT to? Can't see too much; that feature is for loading on ships.
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  413. 0.00
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  414. If something breaks, ya get it fixed. No problem.
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  415.  @cdj8520  Some people just gotta complain, even if they have NO idea what they're talking about. (And those who say "I have three tours, blah blah, blah," & don't tell ya they were all in Kuwait, or they never left a base, etc.)
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  416. JLTV wasn't fielded until 2019. It looks similar to the MRAP-ATV...the same company builds both.
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  417. It has a lot of capabilities the MATV doesn't; Off-road mobility (better than a HMMWV), 10Kw onboard power & 10Kw exportable power, fully NET-ready, and VICTORY architecture compliant. Transportable by C130, C17, C5, CH47, CH53, and airdrop certified. Designed and tested to mount remote weapons system, TOW, M2, M240, & M249. MATV & other MRAPS - Job # One was Protection, & was nearly totally unusable in soft soil.
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  418. EVERY Army truck has the radiator in front of OR on top of the engine. Armor is for the crew. // Yep, is taller than a HMMWV. So are Bradleys, Strykers, Abrams, etc. From 200 yards - height is irrelevant.
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  419. It is for stowing gear; rucks, rations, etc. IF it was armored, it would add a thousand or two thousand pounds of weight. The strategy for armoring is to protect the CREW. And...not all HMMWVs were fully enclosed; some served as troop carriers, shelter carriers, etc.
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  420. Guess we will never know, but there is a recompete for the next contract coming up. If they wanna play with the big boys...now is their chance.
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  421. I think you would like the ergonomics & ride quality on JLTV // Yer right - slapping armor on AFTER the fact will fail every time..
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  422. Too low to the ground prevents blast dissipation. The first "X" inches belongs to the blast.
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  423. Yes, and it works.
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  424. The GAO is typically wrong. Their "auditors" are often 1 year outta college w/ BS's in Sociology or some such degree. Check out what the USMC is doing with JLTV... making them ship-killing platforms, among other things.
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  425. TOWs. A missile.
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  426. Nope. ONE HEV was built by Oshkosh...ONE.
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  427. 0.00
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  428. 000.000 ISIS have JLTV. ZERO.
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  429. 1. JLTV has BETTER vision than a MATV, which no one had issues with in combat. 2. HOW do you know what its blast resistant capabilities are? Have you seen ANY that experienced enemy fire / IEDs / mines? 3. Yes, is taller than a HMMWV...but at 200 yards, one can't see the difference. 4. NO Army / USMC trucks have protection for anything but the crew compartment - NONE. 5. If you feel that strongly about it...write the CSA of the Army, or the Commandant of the USMC; they would LOVE to hear from you. :)
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  430.  @geraldrawlings8756  Yer obviously wrong...and don't have much of a security clearance...sorta like the OTC rep.
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  431. How about being charged with MURDER for the POS that shot an unarmed protester? Mr. BLM cop. POS.
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  432.  @AndrewDeLong  MURDERING a protester is OK, huh? FU - and yer mama.
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  433. 4,000 HMMWVs...that were considered OBSOLETE for US forces.
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  434. The engines are indeed Duramax, modified diesel. TORQUE is the important metric, mot HP. Truly a studly vehicle.... Soft soil mobility far surpasses any HMMWV.
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  435. Why? Because it works. I like the .308, & the .30-06, but they are overkill for most environments. And it's lethal - how about the two bozos trying to assault the kid up in Michigan last spring...they are with us no longer. And bozo Number Three, Skateboard Boy, the one with the majority of the muscle / tissue on his forearm blown clean off. Looked like a lion took a chunk outta a piglet.
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  436. The CSA Army, Cmdt USMC, Chairman JCS disagree with you...going back 10 years.
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  437.  @meatbyproducts  The MRAP has zilch off-road capability, less dry, hard-packed sand/rocky terrain. CUCVs can't feasibly accept armor. The Army started getting rei of them after Desert Storm cuz they fell apart in cross-country terrain. // What problems is JLTV having? Before fielded to units, they are inspected IRT full functionality. Are the units breaking them?
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  438.  @meatbyproducts  The second JLTV contract is going to be awarded in 2022, I believe its for around $6Billion dollars. But the Army can't afford a fleet of pure JLTV...but the USMC can. Originally the Marines planned to buy about 5,500 JLTVs, then it was changed to about 9,000; USMC now plans to nearly pure-fleet with JLTV, around 15,000 or so. It fills all roles; TOW carrier; Utility; Weapons Carrier (M2, M240, Mk19, etc.). Thats the roles it fills. And, can be lifted by CH47 & CH54.
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  439. Thats Crazy Talk. If a vehicle doesn't have armor...the crew is toast, actually, several hundred pieces of body parts.
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  440. I'd give the guy an "A PLUS." Good grip, excellent timing, good shot placement (spine / heart / lungs / thoracic region) are always a BIG HIT. Dear Senor Washington chose the wrong Taco place to rob. The last shot? Musta been an extra on The Godfather, when Sonny got whacked. Too bad..so sad -- NOT.
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  441. JLTV underwent MORE testing in the US by the BEST testers in the world than will EVER be conducted in that corrupt "nation"..by he Army Test & Evaluation Command.
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  442. The ONLY person to say "Designing for the last war" was a POS former SECDEF that was a Raytheon VP...Trump FIRED him for being an Idiot.
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  443. Mebbe you had the MRAP-ATV. JLTV wasn't fielded till 2019. They look a lot alike; the same company makes them.
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  444. Afghanistan 2001, the Rangers did EXACTLY that, in the middle of the night.
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  445. ...and the HMMWV will have its crew blown into about 1,500 little pieces. Little bloody pieces that ya gotta pick up with tweezers.
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  446. ANY operator can change a tire. The "veh mtx sqdrn" guys need find a better job, cuz they are sure trying to PROTECT their jobs. A tire is a tire...it ain't rocket surgery.
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  447. I was in Mog in 1993, NOT on the 2-3-4 OCT mission, but the JLTV woulda beat on the Somalis like a drum major. Then ran the skinny little MOFOS over. Fact.
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  448.  @75thteaster54  Sir; I think ya oughta contact the Army Test & Evaluation Command, under the FOIA, and ask for the Technical Test Report for the JLTV. Nearly every one of your assertions will be disproved. After nearly a million miles of testing in varied climates (temperate, desert, arctic), it is a clear winner. Its purpose is to Shoot Move Communicate - and it does / enables all three rather well. Not trying to argue with you, but the JLTV is what the HMMWV shoulda been all along; providing protected mobility in nearly any terrain, have enough payload, and provide superb automotive performance. Ask for the report - you can see for yourself.
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  449.  @75thteaster54  You are 101% wrong. Way too many people involved in the hundreds of tests & the final test report for some conspiracy; thats crazy talk. IDK about the F35 - but the JLTV tests were done in an open manner w/ DOZENS of observers. Dozens - officers, NCOs, DoD civilians, professional testers, etc. And there was extensive Joint oversight...with some HOPING it would fail; it didn't.
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  450.  @75thteaster54  Nope. The vehicles have been fielded since JAN 2019. Ya don't send vehicles back for software issues, if there were any...ya send the SW to the vehicles location. (I searched many sites n- NONE report what you assert.) Ya "won" nothing, cuz methnks ya believe way too much. Take care. Ciao.
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  451.  @75thteaster54  I believe in what I KNOW are facts. CTIS is as old as dirt - was around in WW2. If it fails, ya have regular old tires. / One CAN drive it on paved roads...its done every day. It was tested on paved roads, cross-country, & trails, for nearly a million miles. Fact. Get the report - NO conspiracy could hoodwink hundreds of people w/out someone spilling the beans. Ciao.
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  452.  @75thteaster54  It doesn't weight 132,000 pounds. Try about 24,000 - 25,000 pounds max. I saw it drive on paved roads, and trails, and cross-country. It doesn't "crush the pavement." It meets all DOT Standards for highway operations. And NO, they didn't recall 50% of them...if they did, no one besides you knows about it. But I'll keep checking... Ciao.
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  453.  @FLORATOSOTHON  A "branch trap?" Gimme a break...HMMWV utility variants had a similar open space w/out being a "branch trap," whatever that is.
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  454.  @nickdibart  Training is provided for operators (~40 hours) and mechanics (~2 weeks). Automotive wise, its not any more complex than any modern car or truck.
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  455.  @neomartyrdom1484  It is airdrop certified.
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  456.  @isgodreal1337  Merica!
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  457. You would change your mind real fast is bullets were flying around.
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  458. One reason is Transportability; JLTV can be sling-loaded by CH47 & CH53K. Just like it's predecessor, the HMMWV. One reason of many...
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  459.  @anyexpat  Stay away, Senor Semenbreath. FJB.
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  460. The Houthis will be smoldering in their graves, if the buzzards don't get them first.
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  461. 0.000 Thats how many.
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  462. Sort of...but JLTV has much more capabilities than the MATV; off-road mobility, 10Kw onboard & exportable power, 11,000 towed load, etc. MRAPS were ALL about protection; JLTV is a mix of Payload, Performance, & Protection.
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  463. A Jeep that hit a mine or the smallest IED would be demolished. The crew would be incinerated / demolished / blown into literally a thousand small - very small - pieces.
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  464. Yup, especially when ya jump on a DZ that is NOT plowed weekly. DZs in Asia tore people up...badly.
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  465. MATV was fielded FAST - Protection was Job # 1. JLTV went thru a full scale development program...and is more reliable, huge electric production, made for all comms to be integrated, has its own trailer, etc. 95% + of components are industrial standard.
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  466.  @SargentTiger  HMMWVV trailers get DESTROYED when towed by a JLTV across rough terrain. DESTROYED...such as the axle breaking into two parts. So - a JLTV trailer has been developed & is being bought. // IRT "design flaws," IMHO the flaws are a result of knuckleheads who won't OR can't read the -10 manual...then blame a perfectly good truck. // JLTV will run circles around a HMMWV, and has 10Kw onboard & 10Kw exportable power, reducing the need for generators. Can mount just about anything on it; M-2 ----SAW. Or CROWS. USMC is experimenting w/ anti-ship missiles...USMC seems more pragmatic than the Army, who have more cry-babies....and senior "leaders" who want to steal JLTV money to buy their pet rocks / toys, such as a cannon that will shoot 50 miles, even though they have never been outclassed in artillery for well over 75 years...if EVER.
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  467. JLTV off-road mobility is vastly superior to any HMMWV; it has the same range as any other vehicle. Runs CIRCLES around ANY HMMWV off road - FACT. And vastly outperforms any vehicle on road.
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  468. Ya mean PAKISTAN, mebbe? And. 00.000 JLTV were there.
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  469. All ~535 of them...
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  470. If ya wanna end up in 200 pieces when hit by an IED...stay with the HMMWV.
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  471. What makes you say that? The 'official' who said that doesn't know what he is talking about...just talk & talk, when not flying around shaking peoples hands.
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  472. JLTV vs. ANY technical...put your money on the JLTV. Technical would be a hunk of burning metal in about 4 seconds.
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  473.  @KhalidAbdinasir252  You have a large vocabulary. 2nd grade education, mebbe?
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  474. No - it is NOT geared especially for the Mid-east. It was built for ANYWHERE in the world. ANYWHERE.
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  475. Actually...they DON'T. Many times the USMC just goes along to get a participation trophy...like Desert Storm. And Iraqi Freedom, where the 1st MAR DIV walked to Baghdad, while the Army's 3rd ID took Baghdad with tanks & Bradleys.
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  476. El Generals keep telling everyone todays troops are the best & brightest in the entire history of the USA. This vehicle is no more complex than a 2021 car / truck.
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  477. Same company. JLTV not fielded till 2019. More reliable, much better off-road, 10Kw onboard & exportable power, etc.
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  478. Brits were very interested...not sure if they procured or not.
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  479. Storage space. Adding more protected space would add tons of weight & decrease mobility.
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  480. CORRUPTION? The POS commie dems have ben mounting BS investigations with NO CRIME FOUND. Dems hate the fact that in some years DT paid more taxes than they will make in their miserable SNAP-carding lives. FJB.
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  481. The PD Done Good. RUNNING to the gunfire, It doesn't get any better than that, unlike the Uvalde "police" who stood around jerking off. WELL DONE, Nashville PD.
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  482. The one that rolled was due to NEGLIGENCE - anything can be rolled...if yer stupid & try real hard.
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  483. 0.000 were left...cuz they weren't there. Quit making stuff up.
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  484. JLTV will run CIRCLES around any HMMWV off-road. Big big circles.
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  485. I'm old fashioned, I guess. If I WALK into a BANK and ASK for and am GRANTED a LOAN, it is MY RESPONSIBILITY to pay it back. I threw a POS out of the Army for not paying back a loan from the Red Cross...AND for using cocaine.
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  486. No.
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  487.  @TheGreatSpl00ge  If you wanna go in SOFT SOIL, choose JLTV; that is one key operational requirement. / MATVs are kept in sorta like theater reserve.
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  488. And, when was the last time the Army went to war in a real jungle? Most jungles, people have trouble getting thru. Horses, donkeys, etc. - forget it.
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  489. T&P doesn't have any :journalists." They generally do about 10 minutes of research...and some believe their every word. The "report" they reference is YEARS OLD, & the people who made the report FAILED to look at actual test data. This vehicle exceeded it's reliability requirements, but some ignoramus determined he knew better. BTHOOM. The Big Fixes to the vehicle were – hold your breath – adding a MUFFLER, adding a front facing CAMERA, and some other trivial item. Wowsa!
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  490. Oshkosh selected the engine. If the US govt mandated the engine, or other components, it is their problem if parts fail. But given there are millions of the GM engine around, shouldn't be a problem.
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  491.  @yarogrigoriev1609  Sir - Not sure where the "1,300 miles" comes from. If true, that would be a problem. In actual testing - the JLTV did rather well in, especially in reliability testing, much better than any other vehicle. Testing is done across a variety of terrain...cross country, highway, rough terrain, etc. NOT just on the highway. // If type / make of components designated (e.g., engine make & model), program is sorta setting itself up for problems, because problems w/ designated components are the govts problem, vice letting maker select components.
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  492. I sorta doubt any are in Yemen.
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  493. Did you guys check with the Program Manager for the JLTV? Ya might wanna do that if you want to pretend you're actual journalists who want to provide FACTS, vice entertainment / half-truths. A half-truth is a WHOLE LIE. Write that down.
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  494. Interesting - but what does that have to do with JLTV?
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  495. Especially when the last use of chemical weapons was during WW ONE...over 100 years ago.
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  496. The report he references covers from 2006 - 2020. The IG & the congressional research service print BS that was mebbe at least 1/3 true about 5 years ago, but corrections were made for the crybaby test unit.
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  497. What a crock of Horse Feces. ALL eat the same food. Officer quarters are marginally better, but keeping a College Grad vice a knucklehead that BARELY graduated from high school is an exercise in rewards versus non-rewards. If you wanna be an OFFICER - go to college, THEN OCS / ROTC / USNA. Quit beutching like a sissy.
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  498. JLTV was fielded in 2019 & were NOT left in Kabul.
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  499.  @007supertime  Gee, the Army & USMC shoulda had YOU in charge of this program. Not.
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  500. It was never designed to fire a 30MM, though it could if necessary.
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  501.  @raymondhollingsworth3643  The 30MM was NEVER listed as an approved requirement in the JLTV source document, called a CPD. Just cuz SF or Finance or AG has something listed in their INTERNAL documents, if it never made it to the JLTV CPD its NOT a JLTV requirement.
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  502. Yup to all above. Imagine being in MOPP-4, with the rubber gloves filled with sweat? :) :) :)
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  503.  @WardenWolf  Agree totally. Thats why JLTV has ergonomic, blast-resistant seats, leg-room for people up to 6' 5 " tall, as well as AC. It's no MB SL-500, but it gets the crew where they need to be. It isn't perfect, but it is a whole lot better than any HMMWV.
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  504. Oshkosh is selling the JLTV for far LESS than they could charge, but a recompete of the contract is coming up. Past performance has a LOT to do with future contracts.
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  505. WATERPROOF bags were invented hundreds of years ago....
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  506. These military-related "journalists" suck at reporting...they rarely get much right. They aim to entertain & belittle the work of others...as if they could do better themselves. // Wiki is close, without the extra armor added.
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  507. The PD DID...and they capped "it" for sure.
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  508. AM General built the HMMWV; last one was built around 12 years ago. Why invest in a known problem?
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  509. A couple hundred thousand miles of testing in all terrain & climate types has likely identified most - if not all - items likely to fail.
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  510. They plan to...we shall see. Brits don't complain like many in the USA army do...some in the us army sound like the GED grads they are.
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  511. Someone in the USMC must like them, because almost ALL of the HMMWVs in the USMC are being replaced with JLTV...about 15,000 of them. Question: How many maintenance issues are a result of Crew OR mechanic errors? Many new systems go thru that learning cycle. Good luck.
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  512. Thats what it has.
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  513. You couldn't be MORE WRONG if you tried. JLTV is the most capable “light” vehicle the Army or USMC have ever fielded. JLTV can run circles around ANY HMMWV; the original HMMWV or the current up-armored ones. Circles, big or small, with a 3,500 pound payload (4-door) or a 5,100 pound payload (2-door). Towing capacity of 11,000 pounds. Mobility in soft soil / soft sand far superior to any MRAP or any HMMWV. JLTV is built for the current conflicts – AND for the future - anywhere in the world, anytime. It has 10Kw onboard power, 10Kw exportable power, and is fully NET-ready. Superior protection, superior reliability, superior performance all around. Transportable by C130, C17, C5, CH47, CH53, and airdrop certified. Designed and tested to mount TOW, M2, M240, & M249. USMC has launched anti-ship missiles from JLTV. Light duty police work, huh? I think not.
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  514.  @Fabrizio_Ruffo  It replaces the HMMWV. Plain & simple. I won't go off & discuss the Price of Rice In China...JLTV REPLACES a HMMWV.
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  515.  @Fabrizio_Ruffo  The variants are Utility / Shelter Carrier (2 door), Command & Control / General Purpose, Heavy Guns Carrier (weapons carrier), and TOW Carrier (close combat weapon system)...and a special JLTV Trailer - because the HMMWV trailer can't handle the terrain a JLTV negotiates & a HMMWV couldn't. Was never intended as a "general transport," whatever that is. But the Army & USMC have plenty of transport / logistics vehicles. Useless? Gee - two guys named Milley & McConville approved the full-rate production decision, mebbe ya oughta check with them.
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  516. A: Yes, it is.
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  517. So they feel special...and pretend they have testosterone. Effing joke.
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  518. Its a demo film...thats NOT the test course. Tested in Alaska, Arizona, & Maryland...about 200,000 miles.
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  519. Last time I checked, MURDER was illegal. Would you be happy if the POS used a knife, a hammer, a baseball bat?
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  520. One of the foremost requirements for this vehicle is TRAINING....first time DOD did this for a truck. EVER.
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  521. Actually...he made a complete FOOL of himself a year ago, talking about things he KNEW NOTHING ABOUT. This time, he was sort of educated about the JLTV.
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  522. These military "journalists" just say whatever they wanna say...anything to sound controversial. They are pathetic at journalism, & do near ZERO research.
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  523. Duh...that was 69 YEATS AGO. Duh...
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  524. I LOVED the USAF chow hall...at 2AM in the morning, as a passenger on a C5 landing at an air base in Spain coming back from several months in Africa. They didn't HAVE to do that for us...but we all sure appreciated it. 28 and 42 years ago (did it twice) and I still remember it. Well Done.
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  525. The reports he is reading from are YEARS old. And over-inflated problems that were solved easily; BIG Fixes were adding a muffler, a front camera, & some other trivial thing.
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  526. JLTV wasn't fielded until 2019. Perhaps ya mean MATV?
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  527. "nvelst in military companies" is bad, huh? WTF is a sale-provision? Mebbe you should be sober when yer ranting & raving?
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  528.  @neloner623  It took a long time to come about, much longer than MRAPs, which were rushed into service because of the HMMWV being overmatched...but it brings a LOT of capability to the field. Sorta heavy, but protection comes with its costs.
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  529. Washington got CAPPED good! Spine / heart / lungs...doesn't get any better.
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  530. Yes. DoD didn't ask for them but OTC put them in anyways.
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  531. Yup. CTIS was developed during WW2. Quite a capability.
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  532. The day a JLTV has to take on a BMP is the day things went terribly to the 10th power wrong. The Army has Bradleys Strykers Abrams Apaches to do that.
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  533. Is being used NOW. Ya can see them on many many US bases.
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  534.  @cm-pr2ys  10th Mountain Division is a "mountain division" in name only. When it was activated in the 1980s, it was either 10th MTN OR 7th ID. Senator Bob Dole - who was in the 10th MTN during WW2, was a very powerful Senator, so the naming game went for the 10th MTN Div. Rightfully, should have been the 7th ID.
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  535.  @cm-pr2ys  All light divisions have the same basic capabilities; 82nd, 101st, 10th MTN, ONCE they arrive in the AO. Biggest difference is the 82nd can deploy by air & parachute in...which they rarely do. Could reduce 82nd to one brigade parachute & the other 2 air-land, but the Army would conjure up 1,000 reasons against that, few of them valid.
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  536.  @cm-pr2ys  Sir - Would be great if the Army actually did that...at least two brigades at FT Carson, doing a whole lotta work in mountains, summer & winter. The original 10th MTN had a whole lotta professional / high-quality SKI experts, they were put into action in the mountains / huge hills of Italy - thats where Senator Dole got shot up pretty bad. But..in THEORY, all of the "light" IBCTs have the same capabilities...10th 101st, 82nd, 173rd, the brigade up in Alaska. Theory is fine, but practice makes perfect. :) :) :)
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  537. It passed extensive side-slope and high-speed lane-change / cornering tests. Anything can be rolled if ya try hard enuf, but ya really gotta try & really gotta be dumb to roll this critter. Every system has limitations. Every single one.
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  538. Helen Keller couldn't miss at 6 feet, ya Commie Beutch.
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  539.  @tayler2396  Forty years of shooting...hollowpoints rarely leave a body, cuz they EXPAND. Hardball can leave a body cuz they are, well, hardball. I saw 8 - 12 POS get capped with 7.62X39...sorta hard to count when they are flopping around.
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  540.  @tayler2396  Boo hoo - the POS CRIMINAL died. I GUARANTEE ya the majority of the bullets hit BONE, which changes the dynamics drastically; they shatter OR stop. And who uses FMJ for a defensive pistol? A tad more expensive...but worth it. Ask Senor Washington...er forget that, he is long gone, as he should be. Governor Abbot will NEVER allow prosecution...
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  541.  @tayler2396  "Centerfire?" Ya sure that wasn't a FLINTLOCK, OR a PERCUSSION pistol? Get on back to yer 3rd grade homework.
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  542. JLTV (not JTLV) is neither too heavy OR tall. Its smaller than a Stryker, a Bradley, an Abrams, & is suitable for any conflict, anywhere, less swamps w/ water over 6 feet deep.
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  543. There is now a front facing camera.
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  544. Do you hate them that much?
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  545. It can level itself.
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  546. MATV soft soil mobility SUCKED. JLTV had that capability as one of its Pass/Fail criteria. Fail = No contract...JLTV PASSED.
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  547. If anyone fact-checked you, you would be in jail. Rappelling from an Apache, huh? Its an ATTACK helicopter. Ranger School is NOT auto promotion to E6 & ya don't get a "Green Beret."
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  548. All of this vast insight...from a 15 minute video? Gee - sounds like you should sell your vast expertise to Oshkosh Truck Company. Give them a call & see if they are interested in hiring you. I betcha they'll offer you a lotta money...
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  549. It was tested for about 300,000 miles in the US, as well as extensive ballistic testing. It has "MRAP-like" protection, certified by the best test agency in the entire world.
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  550. Back in the day, every vehicle on DZ had to have engine running AND a driver. And a combat jump ain't gonna have HMMWVs sitting around...
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  551. Yes - the thief had walked back & forth several times. He was dumb...and now is DEAD. Too bad, huh? :)
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  552. Useless at everything? Nope - this vehicle is everything a HMMWV never was; off-road mobility is superb, 10Kw onboard & 10Kw exportable power, 11,000 lb towed load capability, slingloadable, air-droppable, NET-ready, 10 times as reliable as the best HMMWV, etc. Not perfect...and neither are the knuckleheads that can break anything thru stupidity.
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  553. It all depends if one wants to live. If not...use a 1/4 ton jeep. If Yes, use JLTV.
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  554.  @christianlibertarian5488  The Army & USMC are primarily stationed in the US (about 60%) & deploy when necessary. E.g., since 1991, troop strength in Europe has been reduced from 200-350,000 to mebbe 50,000.
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  555. It was tested by the BEST testers in the world - ATEC.
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  556. Call a few guys named MILLEY and McCONVILLE. They approved full-rate production.
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  557. The "issues" they "found" WERE TRIVIAL...the BIG FIXES were adding a MUFFLER, making the rear windows BIGGER, and adding a front CAMERA. Thats about it. Troops ain't dying much so the Big Kahunas wanna spend money on THEIR toys, like long range cannon (whose barrels get stuck in the mud when being towed). Overall - in testing - the JLTV surpassed all requirements; the kahunas just nit-picked pretending they had problems to solve when in reality they wanna steal JLTV funds & spend on their toys. And screw the troops if they need a JLTV but have a HMMWV which is a death trap.
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  558. Washington learned NOTHING from previous offenses...but there will be no FUTURE offenses. Good Riddance.
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  559.  Irish Jester  The various clan leaders hijacked UN supplied food, & used as a weapon against warring clans. Hundreds of thousands starved. US & other nations went in to stop that. Once stabilized, troop strength was reduced. US Army had about one Inf BN & various aviation assets serving as quick reaction force. TF Ranger was sent to arrest Aided (not eyedid) & his henchmen / lieutenants. Thats it in a nutshell...leading up to early OCT 1993. (BTW - 2-14 Inf of 10th Mountain Div was conduction raids similar to TF Ranger before they showed up.)
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  560. It was tested for about three years already (2015 - 2019). It is already in field units, both Army & USMC. Operators are supposed to get at least a week of training before being licensed on it. Everything that moves breaks, sooner or later, but Oshkosh has about 50 years experience supporting the vehicles they deliver to the services, & they build nearly all current vehicles for the Army & USMC. HET, HEMTT, FMTV, MTVR, etc.
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  561. USMC & Army versions are same basic vehicle. USMC initially was gonna buy 5,000...its now up to 15,000.
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  562. Chinese SKS were selling for $99.00 25 years ago...was a LONG line. :)
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  563. USMC is getting them also. They seem to recognize the superior capabilities it has...JLTV runs circles around ANY HMMWV. USMC plans to mount anti-ship missiles on theirs, among other weapons/
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  564. "No one attempted aid." Gee - when the POSs head is splattered all over the place it is self evident CPR ain't gonna do much good. Good Riddance.
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  565.  cameraflyer  There is only ONE way to run in school shootings. Hanging around outside & arresting parents who wanted to go in, as as in Uvalde. is pure BS.
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  566. You likely had the MATV. JLTV wasn't fielded until 2019. They look the same, but MATV is about 25% larger.
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  567. What idjit walks into a convenience store with an AR? Clerk shoulda capped him if he raised the muzzle an inch.
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  568. Have you served in a combat zone with HMMWVs? HMMWVs SUCK IRT protection AND off road mobility. JLTV runs circles around any HMMWV, on or off road. They ARE taller than HMMWV, but an additional foot in height is meaningless at operational ranges...
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  569.  @jsveterans6949  We only have 12 years, eh? And: WTF is "gas-lit?' You speak English?
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  570.  @jsveterans6949  No, not challenged by anything except the fact that every prediction of doom & gloom in last 50 years hasn't happened. Manhattan STILL isn't underwater...was supposed to be by 2000. I've lived on a tributary of the Bay for ~20 years & have seen ZERO rise in that time, & I see it every day. PS: dontcha worrie bout mys bilitee to reed ang rite...where I work, MS is the norm, & PhD's aren't uncommon - and NOT in history of basket weaving. We speak/write clear, concise English, & don't use obscure words. Chow. :)
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  571. Mebbe a few seconds faster. But WHEN was the last time a TOW was used to engage a tank? Mebbe never. Mebbe 18 years ago...
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  572. Gee - YEARS of testing didn't come to your conclusion. But some guy making $25 / hour knows all the details, huh? I think not.
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  573.  @warddohner8922  Sir - I know nothing of that...but I do KNOW a bit about JLTV. One important reqmt was exiting the vehicle w/ battle-rattle on. It passed that event.
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  574.  @warddohner8922  Yes. Each has a door...it takes a tard to not go out the door closest.
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  575.  @warddohner8922  Yes, it passed. Drowning in a ditch sucks.
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  576.  LP  You got it, beutch - he is a serial killer who has killed 100 MILLION POS...oh should we be so lucky!
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  577.  LP  WHO he pointed the pistol at isn't what counts; the FACT he displayed a firearm in the course of a ROBBERY is what counts. Bye bye dead POS...
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  578.  LP  You make absurd analogies...what if a 102 year old obese blind lady pointed a gun at someone? Didn't think of that, didja?
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  579. The JLTV is made by Oshkosh, as is MATV. They look similar. Besides that, JLTV is a much better vehicle & has more capabilities. Off-road performance is about equal to the original HMMWVs; it has 10Kw onboard AND 10Kw exportable electric power; 11,000 pound towed load; a JLTV trailer is part of the JLTV "family;" its about 10 times as reliable as a HMMWV. MATV & other MRAPs were rushed into service as a one-trick pony - protection was Job Number 1. JLTV is a balance of Performance, Payload, & Protection. (A 400 pound bomb will destroy an Abrams & any other vehicle on Earth.)
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  580. Well, supposedly todays Soldiers / Marines are "the best & brightest ever." So the generals say...
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  581. 00.0000; thats how many.
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  582. No they didn't. The US Army could have KILLED every living thing in that "country." But they were told NOT to.
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  583. The US didn't lose. It quit, because the Afghans were led by crooks, & the majority of their "soldiers" refused to fight. If the US Army had WANTED to, it could have killed every person in the trash-heap of a country.
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  584. No...because the HMMWV had reached the limits of what it could do. It was good - in its time. Too low to the ground, meaning blast deflection wasn't possible. All good things come to an end for equipment front-line units. HMMWV will be around, but slowly being replaced...
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  585. Its a demo film...NOT a test course. 200,000 miles of testing, varied terrain, Alaska, Arizona, Maryland.
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  586. Jumping from helicopters is way cooler...ya just slide offa the side & fall for about 4-5 seconds.
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  587. HMMWV armor was so pathetic it often wasn't allowed of FOBs.
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  588. Now it is...they changed the PT standards so the fairer sex could get their little jump wings. No chinups...just hang from the bar for a minute or two.
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  589. If you consider keeping Soldiers alive...then it IS a waste of money. Most capable vehicle for typical "light" missions ever fielded.
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  590. THOUSANDS of JLTVs have been ordered / delivered to EUROPEAN nations. There is a reason for that - it is as useful in future conflicts as it would have been in Iraq / Afghanistan. Payload Protection Performance....
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  591. Not intended as a Squad Carrier. Infantry either walks OR rides in Stryker OR Bradley.
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  592. 500,000+ miles of testing disproves "unreliability" assertion. It's about ten times as reliable as ANY HMMWV. USMC loves them...of course, they don't complain as much as the Army does.
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  593. GMC Duramax...only like 10 MILLION of them out there. Civilians don't have many problems...only the army could effup an engine in a few months.
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  594. IRT shot placement, I give the HERO an A+++. Spine, heart, lungs, thorax region...can't do much better. // The guy in the corner is the COOLEST DUDE IN TEXAS...didn't miss a bite or a sip... :)
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  595. They come w/ 4-point belts.
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  596. Call Oshkosh. They will let ya know.
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  597. Why? A: Ignorance.
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  598. Every 28 year-old E4 mechanic is now an automotive engineer...even though they barely passed their GED test. They are Pure Genius...just ask them.
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  599. It is indeed. Mebbe they can get rid of the POS ASV....
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  600. One thing is for sure - it isn't a Dem funding her. SNAP cards are hard to use for cash. FJB.
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  601. GM Duramax...about 2,000,000 of those on the road.
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  602. That capability is for USMC JLTV to fit on prepo ships where HMMWVs had been stored...they didn't wanna buy new ships.
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  603. Gee - yer a cynical one... WEIGHT was the determining factor for JLTV. An ambulance would NOT be transportable by CH47.
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  604. MAT-V isn't the JLTV. They look a lot alike, but are two separate vehicles, same company makes them. JLTV is likely about 4 or 5 times as reliable.
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  605. They started getting them about 4 - 5 years ago...
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  606. Can mount any wpn that goes on a HMMWV. Remote wpns stations have been mounted by some foreign countries that are buying the JLTV.
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  607. Mebbe you ought to contact the Army & USMC & Oshkosh to lend them your expertise?
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  608. Depends on size of IED & whether they had their seatbelts (5-point) on. Ya can blow anything up, including an Abrams.
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  609. Go tell the CMDT of the USMC, the Chief of Staff - Army, & the VC-JCS. They obviously didn't ask you/ // MRAPS in soft soil sink like a brick in water...you wanna go to war in that?
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  610. This vehicle can withstand a roof crush event, similar to forces found in a rollover. IF occupants have their seatbelt (5-point seatbelts!) on, and there aren't objects flying around inside, they will survive. If they don't have seatbelts on...shame on them.
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  611. "Standard" vehicles have ZERO ability to handle the armor. Just about all parts of the vehicle start breaking; suspension, transmission, brakes, drive train, etc. IT DOESN'T WORK...unless al the vehicle will do s drive very slowly on totally paved roads at slow speeds.
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  612. Like the last one...in 1945?
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  613. Today Casper Milquetoast could graduate. In 1973, we had about a 60% fail / quit rate.
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  614. No.
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  615.  @user-bd5md5cm2j  Nope. JLTV was tested in HUGE mud pits...and sand dunes. It met the requirements the experts established.
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  616.  @user-bd5md5cm2j  Sir - what does change is the physics of the soil; the ability of a vehicle to traverse that soil changes dependent on the settings of the Central Tire Inflation System The metrics are Rated Cone Index AND Vehicle Cone Index. CTIS + torque + Tak-4 suspension is a game changer...
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  617. How do ya like the ride quality, compared to the HMMWV?
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  618. Not sure why some are enamored with the antique M1911. A FN-45 Tactical has a longer barrel, 15 round magazines, and is ready for a silencer and electro-optics straight from the factory.
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  619. No, NONE were left in Kabul.
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  620. Different vehicle; lighter, with mobility MRAPs only dream of.
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  621. They apparently mixed & matched between MATV & JLTV. Video-maker isn't a world-class journalist, who woulda caught those things.
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  622. a. NONE were in Afghanistan. b. Just having a vehicle doesn't allow situational awareness. It is a TRUCK.
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  623. Wasn't fielded till 2019. Looks a lot like MATV...same company makes them.
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  624.  @identityunknown4204  Yup. MRAPS were all about protection. JLTV has MRAP-like protection with better than original HMMWV mobility. Along with ergonomic seats, 10Kw exportable & onboard power, fully NET Ready, 11,000 pound towed load, JLTV trailer, etc. A LOT of work went into this critter.
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  625. Nope. It runs CIRCLES around any HMMWV, on and off road. Transportable by CH47 & CH53, air droppable by parachute, 10Kw onboard and exportable electric power, tows 11,000 pounds, NET ready, etc.
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  626. She was MURDERED by some chicken-shi& punk wearing a police uniform...for the simple act of trespassing.
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  627. The ENTIRE CREW is lost without air conditioning, so it is a moot question. Heat stroke kills just as surely as a bomb does. Millions Millions of vehicles travel the deserts with AC daily.
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  628. The IG report is OLD NEWS today; who CARES about minor problems from 2 years ago that were quickly solved, other than needle-penised bug fornicators? The Big Fixes were – hold your breath – adding a muffler, adding a front facing camera, and some other trivial item. The Big Kahunas were looking for any reason to reduce JLTV funding to buy THEIR toys...their predecessors that thought protecting Soldiers was sorta important weren't around anymore.
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  629. Yes, it has a variant that has the TOW mounted on it.
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  630. Only if one is aster than the speed of light can one outrun an explosion.
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  631. IF all are wearing seat-belts, the crew will survive. Easily...very easily.
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  632. They make about 90% of the vehicles used by the Army & USMC. They know who is their bread & butter.
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  633. July 1950 was the last time an enemy aircraft attacked US forces...Korea, July or August 1950. And given the gazillions the USAF spends...they can't GUARANTEE air supremacy?
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  634. JLTV is TEN TIMES more reliable than any HMMWV, and has better protection, off-road mobility, electrical power, towed load capability, etc.
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  635.  @battlerapperd1654  Contact the Army Test & Eval Command for FACTS IRT reliability.
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  636. Dangerous to work on? How is that?
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  637. NO Army or USMC wheeled vehicle (less Stryker) really protects anything besides the crew compartment. None.
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  638. Anything can rollover. Training (40 hours) and discipline prevent roll overs.
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  639. ...but spend tens of billions+ on welfare sucking cities, huh? Screw true Americans, huh? Go away.
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  640. The mileage is across varied terrain; extensive cross country, trails, etc.
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  641. It is good...but doesn't have the range of the Javelin.
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  642. Fielding started ~ Jan 2019.
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  643. Never understood why some loved an antique pistol w/ a 7 rd mag. I had a M1911 (Sig), but gave it away...I could never get it back together, as the tolerances were too tight. Replaced it w/ a FN .45 Tactical; longer barrel, 15 rd mags, optics ready. I prefer the FN.
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  644.  @Fng_1975  MATV in TRUE soft soil / sand stunk...it can NOT compete w/ JLTV in that - and many other - capabilities.
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  645. Truly sorry for your loss. This vehicle can mount a gunners protection kit, developed around 2008 or so; it provides protection 360 degrees.
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  646. Lots of similarities...but a JLTV will run CIRCLES around a MATV off-road. Same company built them both.
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  647. Nope. Yer making stuff up, AKA LIENG. Telling lies.
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  648. No more complex than a 2019 Chevy.
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