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Comments by "Sergey Misik" (@Jimmy1972) on "Troops, tanks and missiles in Red Square for Russia’s Victory Day parade - BBC News" video.
He said so because the Kyiv prince Oleg said more than a thousand years ago that Kyiv is the mother of Russian cities. Learn Russian history, you will better understand what Russians say. Ukraine is the Motherland for Russians.
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@michaeldunham3385 then there was no Ukraine and Ukrainians, but there were Russians and Rus - the first Russian state. Learn history.
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@Unhinged_rant_starts_here Kyiv is the name of the city, and Rus is the name of the state. Kyiv princes themselves called Kyiv - the mother of Russian cities, not Ukrainian ones. Kyiv is the homeland of Russians. Prince Vladimir of Kyiv was a native of Novgorod, and Novgorod, as you must understand, never had anything to do with Ukraine.
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@charlesbartlett2569 Kyiv ruled all of Russia until the Kyiv prince Yuri Dolgoruky moved the capital to Moscow.
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@michaeldunham3385 no, you don't because you say "there was no Russia back then" and this is not true. It's like saying that there was no Russia under the USSR. There was a Russian state, and it doesn't matter what it is called - Rus, Russia, Muscovy or the USSR.
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@michaeldunham3385 Russia is a derivative of the word Rus. Will you deny such an obvious fact? Where is Ukraine? Was not in the history of the state of Ukr.
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@michaeldunham3385 Rus and Russia are not the same thing, but both of these states were Russian. Ukraine first appeared on the map in the 20th century. Will you argue?
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@michaeldunham3385 the state of Russia was not, but the Russian state was, as follows from the words of Oleg: Kyiv is the mother of Russian cities. But the Ukrainian state did not exist until the 20th century. Please tell me a part of what Novgorod was until the 16th century? I'm talking about maps, because before the beginning of the 20th century there were no Ukraine on them, but Rus and Russia were.
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@JS-ip8xm And the Romanian kings considered themselves Romans, how did the Kyiv ones consider themselves Russian? Show me on the map Ukraine before the 20th century. All this land was first Rus, then the Moscow kingdom, then the Russian Empire, then the Soviet Union. Where was Ukraine?
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@JS-ip8xm this is the logic of an idiot. Russia just originated from Kyiv, which was a city-state, and then the Kyiv Prince Vladimir, born in Novgorod, and who captured Kyiv from his own brother, united the scattered Russian principalities into a single state. Every student in Russia knows this. And it would be good for you to know. So there was Rus then, there were Russian principalities, but there were no Ukrainian ones. By the way, if you didn't know, the Russians defeated the Mongols.
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@charlesbartlett2569 Yuri Dolgoruky was the uncle of Izyaslav, who ruled Kyiv. It's called internecine warfare. They were both Russians. It doesn't prove anything. Prince Vladimir also conquered Kyiv from his own brother.
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@charlesbartlett2569 No, he changed the capital of Russia from Kyiv to Moscow. This is proved by the fact that the entire patriarchy of the church moved from Kyiv to Moscow. This is an iron historical fact. Understand that there was no Ukraine, the conflict was between Poland and Russia over the lands of Russia that Poland claimed. Ukrainians as a nation appeared only at the end of the 19th century. Before this thousand years they were called Little Russians. I don't want to discuss politics and the president. I am telling you about the real history of Russia and Ukraine. You got lack the necessary real knowledge of history to judge this situation. Ukrainian history as a state lasts some 30-odd years, and for a thousand years it has been in a single state with Russia. Understand it. And the treacherous elites of Russia divided Russia and Ukraine, without asking if our peoples want it.
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