Comments by "Matthew Nirenberg" (@matthewnirenberg) on "BREAKING: Big Changes to Caribbean Citizenship?" video.

Having to go to the country to collect the documents in person is hugely problematic as unless they issue a "temporary/emergency passport (single use)" to enter the country then you'd be entering the country illegally as if you're a citizen of a country you must enter and exit it on their passport. Breaking the law by entering on a foreign passport immediately terminates CBI as its a "critical breech" of the CBI contract.
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@wuerges Sorry but you're actually wrong, what I've stated is the truth as backed up by law - ask any lawyer, border guard or anyone working in federal law enforcement. If you are a citizen of a country you must enter and exit it on that passport - that is literally law in all but two countries in the world. If you enter a country on one passport and exit on another, you will have legally overstayed or failed to legally exit as you haven't "checked out". Your passports aren't linked. Just because you may not like what I said, doesn't make it wrong. Doing what you said is literally committing a crime that carries a long jail sentence.
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@LoveClassicMusic0205 Stamps aren't the issue. The reason a lot of places don't stamp is because they electronically record your entry and exit when they scan your passport. Stamps are generally only for entry visas, to mark that a visa has commenced on entry or to invalidate a visa. The problem with going to collect the documents is that at that stage in the process you're legally a citizen of that country and under law can't enter it without a passport issued by that country - hence why I said "unless they issue a "temporary/emergency passport (single use)" in my original comment. Emergency passports are used to let you back into a country of citizenship if your passport is stolen or if the time to issue an ordinary passport is too long and you have extenuating circumstances to enter the country. When you cross the border of the country that issues an emergency passport, they will stamp it as "INVALID - USED" and you won't be able to leave until you get your ordinary passport.
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@wuerges Dude, your delusional and have zero clue what you're on about - you clearly haven't ever worked as a border guard in ANY country. You're the one who is misinformed I know what I'm saying is true, like I said, ask any lawyer, border guard or federal law enforcement - they'll all say the same. Absolutely no one shows more than one passport at a border - you simply use the one that gives you the most rights in the country. No border guard will ever stamp more than one passport per person and in modern times they don't stamp but electronically record the entry. Its clear that you never travel, have never worked as a border guard and are likely trolling as you're literally saying its okay to commit crimes and to do completely weird things (such as showing multiple passports at the border) that no normal person does.
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@wuerges Mercosur operates internally like Schengen does and like OECS does, hence not having the passport requirement. I'm not making up rules, I'm simply explaining how the rules work outside any Freedom of Movement Union (Schengen, Mercosur, OECS, CTA, Trans-Tasman). The rule about being only able to enter and exit a country you're a citizen of with its passport is law in all but two countries in the world (obviously excluding remaining within a Freedom of Movement Union). The rule about having to enter and exit on the same passport so you don't illegally overstay is law everywhere that requires passports as since passports aren't linked, if you enter on passport A and leave on passport B then you're legally in a huge mess as Passport A is illegally overstaying and passport B can't leave as it never legally entered the country. My original comment was specifically saying that an emergency passport would be required to enter the country to collect the documents otherwise it wouldn't be possible to do so without illegally entering the country as once you're at the document collection stage, you've already been made a citizen and been issued a passport - given that CBI applicants will 99.99% of the time be from outside OECS, they will need to enter with a passport and since they'd be entering a country they're a citizen of, they can only use an ordinary passport issued by that country or an emergency passport issued by that country. At no point was I talking about Freedom of Movement Unions which operate differently as, people within said unions never actually leave their country of citizenship (as far as border controls are concerned) when traveling within the Freedom of Movement Union, the only time they leave is when they head to a country outside their Freedom of Movement Union.
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@wuerges You make zero sense, I've literally described how Mercosur and Schengen both work. Whilst within a Freedom of Movement union you can cross with a National ID or other govt issued ID, but to exit or enter the Freedom of Movement union you require a passport from the country you're a citizen of that's within the Freedom of Movement Union. Either you aren't reading and understanding what I'm typing or you're trolling. I have clearly explained everything I've said in each comment. As for you trying to claim I don't know how Mercosur and Schengen work - wrong, I know how they both work, better than most people having trained border guards for both Mercosur and Schengen. My original comment was specifically saying that an emergency passport would be required to enter the country to collect the documents otherwise it wouldn't be possible to do so without illegally entering the country as once you're at the document collection stage, you've already been made a citizen and been issued a passport - given that CBI applicants will 99.99% of the time be from outside OECS, they will need to enter with a passport and since they'd be entering a country they're a citizen of, they can only use an ordinary passport issued by that country or an emergency passport issued by that country.
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@wuerges Its literally a catch-all term in the ENGLISH LANGUAGE so I don't have to waste time listing all freedom of movement unions by their individual names - its a descriptor. Using a catch-all term is no different to a legal contract only having a company name listed once such as: "Microsoft" (the Company) and then using the term "the Company" instead of using the actual name. Its just a shorter way.
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@wuerges My initial comment is specifically about the countries in the video (OECS) and because people doing CBI will be from outside OECS. My first comment is 100% accurate. As for my other comments, they are accurate. Mercosur, OECS and the EU all have two types of member states. In Mercosur there are States Parties and Associated States. In OECS there are Full Members and Associate Members. In the EU there is Schengen and Non-Schengen. In each of the above listed, the first type of member states have complete freedom of movement within the relevant union, the second type don't (or are subject to special rules). With regards to the EU, things get very messy as the European Economic Area (EEA) blurs the lines of Schengen and the rest of the EU as it allows EU citizens from countries within Schengen to have more freedom to do business beyond the Schengen Zone but within the EEA. Then the Nordic countries make an even bigger mess as they have the Nordic Union which is their own freedom of movement separate from the EU, EEA and EU Schengen Zone.
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