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@larryjake7783 Lol. You say "true true" and then contradict the other guy 100%.
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No. Freedom and equality and so on are de-facto, empirically good for human well being. They aren't adressing "the problem of what is good".
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@Hbmd3E >God is outside time, space matter he is not competing for space with "beings" but is source of all. ( not bearded sky daddy ) That's total nonsense, it's just a smokescreen you put up when you are asked to provide evidence. Once you think you "won" the debate, the smokescreen disappears, and god stops being "outside of time and space" and starts being a sky daddy again. No one prays to anything "outside of time and space", no one kills anyone for something "outside of time and space". Your god is a dude sitting on a cloud, who is obsessed with foreskins and gay sex and lures people with promises of sex slaves. That's what he is now, that is what he has always been.
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He totally ignores the intention of the authors, all of our historical and archeological backgrounds and instead superimposes his Jungian BS. It's not just an impoverished view of historical texts, it's misleading about what Judaism or Christianity were about at any point in time.
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That doesn't mean anything. Just say that you have a pact with sky daddy that he will save you from death if you hate gays for him.
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Thing is that the Christian god is the least loving entity I can imagine. It's totally meaningless to say that you want to spread love when you worship a being that wants to torture others forever.
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That you think child sexual slavery is supremely good neatly sums up my issue with religion.
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@ross2812 Actually Charles Darwin proposes a way in which the eye could have evolved and we then found out he was right. So that's really the worst possible example you could have picked. But you don't know that because you exclusively parrot apologists.
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@suziqw139 Your god is a terrible monster, if anything he would need to ask for forgiveness. Your comment is a perfect illustration of how religion rots the mind.
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@Rubberglass There's nothing freeing about licking the boots of an entity that's obsessed with torturing the defenseless.
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@bt6202 >God is a HUGE unknown. No, you claim that your god exists. No one believes in an "unknown" god. An "unknown" god doesn't tell us to kill "witches" and homosexuals. You want us to behave in a very specific and harmful way towards others and your sole justification is the desires of your "unknown" god.
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@georgetsoukalas1409 Peterson doesn't even defend the existence of a god at all. That you list him here shows that you're in it for political conservatism and not genuine religious persuasion.
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Gnosticism is completely dead. What comes closest is maybe that more people are aware of the evil shit Yahwe does in the OT than the evil opinions Jesus has in the NT, but that's hardly gnosticism.
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How can the mere fact of consciousness affect atoms at all? It seems like a category error. At the same time it seems absurd to suppose that all thoughts about and talk of consciousness is pure coincidence and not caused by consciousness at all. This issue is deeply confusing to me.
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I would tell you to read your own comment and ask yourself whether it's intelligable English.
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@huntz0r No. Compassion has abolutely nothing to do with faith, with believing anything on insufficient evidence, with following tradition blindly, with obeying authority. Actually it is the opposite. It means doing the right thing even if it's counter intuitive and requires novel research. It means going against tradition and against authority.
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@brianj7281 >What does flourishing mean in the absence of God? Not taking sex slaves for example and fighting those who don't. Meanwhile flourishing in the presence of God means murdering others and taking their stuff and taking their children as slaves.
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@Atali2738 >Your concept of God as a “being” instead of beingness itself That's your concept as well. That's what people actually believe in. A person with enormous magical powers and specific goals and desires. No one worships "beingness". No one is interested in "beingness". >No one is talking about some pagan concept of Zeus here. That’s not what Christians believe. Yes you do, 100%. The ONLY context in which you pretend not to is when you're asked for evidence of your god by skeptics. Only in intellectual debates is your god this nebulous "beingness". The moment, you have fended off the skeptics, your god immediately becomes a guy sitting on a cloud again. And this guy sitting on a cloud is the justification for all of the harm you're doing to other people. "Beingness" doesn't have an opinion on sexual relationships, forms of government, individual freedom, abortion, slavery, the treatment of animals, etc. "Beingness" doesn't listen to prayers. "Beingness" doesn't reward you either here or in an afterlife.
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No. According to my "moral laws" your god is a monster with zero redeemable qualities. That what's ethical is simply whatever your god wants is not how anyone uses that term. Not even you. What's the thing motivating your comment? "pain and suffering" There you have it. Your conception of what's good is what reduces suffering, not whatever some celestial despot wants.
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Meanwhile Abrahamic religions are ENTIRELY based on a selfish pact with a selfish deity. Abraham is asked to sacrifice his son and his son's well being is never even thought about in the text. Follow me and I will give you the stuff other people had. That's Yahwe's promise. I will spare you while I torture others. That's Jesus' promise in Christianity. It's all the opposite of love.
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@TubeFuzzyCheese That you think child sexual slavery is "beautiful" is the entire problem with religion.
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Peterson articulates with so little clarity that believers think he defends their beliefs even as he openly contradicts them. If your god only exists in human minds, it's not a god and you're not a Christian.
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Peterson simply ignores all of history and archeology and projects his dumbass Jugnian ideology onto the bible. He ignores what the writers of those texts wanted, what they were working with and what people actually believed in the past.
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@Atali2738 There's the pie-in-the-sky philosophical question of whether the cosmos is fundamentally matter with consciousness arising from that, fundamentally consciousness with matter arising withing or both being somehow fundamental and correlated. But a lot of people seem to understand materialism as "magic doesn't exist" and dualism and idealism as "magic exists". In particular being a dualist or idealist doesn't mean you think humans are somehow different from the rest of the cosmos. E.g. one can be a panspychist idealist.
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There is absolutely no reason whatsoever to have as the most basic explanation of the cosmos a dude, who wants foreskins and child sacrifices, rather than spacetime and a small set of laws.
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10 minutes of research is worth more than 10 hours of repeating your delusions to yourself.
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@riner60341 It should be easy to find a god that's at least better than the one, who tortures people forever. I, for example, have never done that.
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@markk6151 No, it's written in Old Hebrew and Greek. To look for symbolism everywhere is a modern mistake.
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The NT tells us to unquestioningly obey kings.
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> The highest good for all intents and purposes must be God No. God is a person with certain interests. No one prays to "the highest good". No one does what the "highest good" wants. People pray to an intelligent being and do what they think it wants. >and this understanding of God is eye opening No, it's a smokescreen that's only applied when religious people face criticism or are asked for evidence. The moment the argument is "won", god immediately stops being "the highest good" and becomes a concrete intelligent agent with it's own goals again. >And for those who would argue that great atrocities have been done in the service of God They have. And your confusion doesn't let you understand the actual motivations here. You also apply this excuse selectively. When someone does something good, they were motivated by the real intelligent being and it's commandments. When someone does something bad, they couldn't have followed any commandments, because god is just "the highest good". There is zero sophistication to your BS, it's just lazy excuses and redcons. God is and always has been a dude that wants your foreskin and encourages you to take slaves.
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Children are extremely guillible and naive. If you can't even get children to buy into your scam, you're a phenomenally untalented fraud.
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Religion negatively affects introspection just as much as it negatively affects natural science. If not more. Our largest religions rely on a concept of the self that is contradicted by introspection and contemplation.
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If your "god" only exists in human minds, it's not a god and you're not a Christian.
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If they stopped focusing on worship they would stop being poor. How come your god constantly offers people concrete rewards in his own myths, but he's totally unwilling to do so for you? I'm the Lord your God, give me your foreskin and I give you land and a lot of sheep!
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Not analogous. An imaginary god doesn't escape human control in quite the same way as a machine intelligence. People can over time come to disagree with the god and oppose it. Once the machine intelligence is built, it's immediately autonomous and can't be changed anymore.
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