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Comments by "Taxtro" (@MrCmon113) on "Why Even Atheists Should Teach Their Children about God | 5 Minute Video" video.
Even if you wanna tell people comforting lies - Christianity is like the least comforting thing. The universe is created and governed by a psychopath who just can't help but torture his creation.
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"Where is grandpa, mommy?" "Grandpa believed in Aryanism, so he's burning in hell."
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But it's not a beautiful lie, it's infinitely worse than reality.
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@lysanderofsparta3708 Virtually all common people believed in gods. Philosophers were the ones that often rejected their existance and argued against it. Also Aristotle didn't believe that there was a three-headed god, that partly became human and killed himself and that wants to torture you after you die.
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No, living your life solely to appease a celestial psychopath is not beneficial. It is indeed an absolute horror and has the cause of unimaginable suffering for millennia.
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Yeah, the one path being atheism and the thousand being the religions. Nice own goal.
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Bob is a moron. If you believe in something, you believe in it. And telling people the opposite of what you believe in would be a lie.
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@ryderwilson7955 No, people didn't become depressed, because they were less religious, they became depressed, because they were in a city among strangers. And most people weren't worried about "leaving a mark" ever.
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@CaptnEmu Most people remain believers precisely because it's popular and they were brought up in it. The minority that followed reason are the ones that became atheists.
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@timothybrewer5470 > that you want them to make that choice for themselves There is no "choice" in lying to people.
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@007kingifrit That just means you have no clue what Christianity is. The "values" and "practice" are the same. And nothing in Christianity makes any sense if you don't believe in a god. Can you swim if you don't believe in water?
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It's very possible to know that no gods exist in precisely the same way you know anything else.
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@Colddirector But I do know that you're gonna die as well as I know pretty much anything else. And I know that all of those religious folks are delusional. Presenting this as some open problem would be as dishonest as telling my kids that the earth might be flat or that we don't know whether there's a continent south of Australia.
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@laurenedson6258 Sucking up to a psychopathic creator deity as your only goal in life is a selfish existence.
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What study? I wouldn't tell people atrocious lies and indoctrinate them into noxious delusions even if it meant that they get a 30cm dick and wings.
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>disillusioned with the whole movement What movement? Rejecting some noxious delusions is no more a movement than rejecting others. >they blindly reject any sort of purpose or positive effect religion has had over humanity You mean people argue against your apologetics? >in no small part thanks to Judeo-Christianity The term "Judeo-Christianity" itself is part of some really modern, lazy apologetics that tries to sweep the constant conflicts between Christians and Jews under the rug. There is no Judeo-Christianity. And the positive aspects of Western civilization are a direct result of religion having LESS influence here than elsewhere. >predilection to 'believe' in science, without any form of critical thinking or skepticism Science is critical thinking and skepticism applied to general matters like physics. >much of atheist movement is virulently on the leftist political spectrum Outspoken anti-theists are frequently attacked by the far left, among other things, because they refuse to criticize religion outside of the West.
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@Kalimdor199Menegroth >Judaism and Christianity were spiritual revolutions though. No, they weren't. They were just as morally bankrupt as other people at the time. The bible unambiguously encourages slavery and even sexual slavery of little girls. That's your "Judeo-Christian" values. Raping little girls.
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@lysanderofsparta3708 That's not a cop-out, that's how you reason about anything that's not your god.
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@JohnAlbertRigali If your god existed, you wouldn't have to "feel" anything calling and there wouldn't be any ambiguity. This kind of story doesn't even fit into it's own mythology: there's never any ambiguity when Yahwe talks to people in the bible. He just straight up speaks. "Kill those people, give me their foreskins and I'll grant you 1000 goats."
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@007kingifrit >suffering is necessary to have a happy life No, it's not. Happiness is precisely the absence of suffering. Your attitude is the cause of suffering. >what they can build with that suffering Your god torturing others forever is totally unnecessary and pointless. It is purely about his sadism. There is absolutely nothing accomplished by it. >just telling them raw ugly truths That your god doesn't exist is not an ugly truth, it's a very good and obvious truth. >creates loneliness and nihilism You have literally become a psychopath through your religion. You just can't seem to admit that torturing someone forever is bad. It literally doesn't get any worse as far as bad influences are concerned.
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When you're lying to someone they don't decide jack shit. If I told you that all spiders are deadly poisonous, you'd have a very different life even if I eventually told you the truth. You must be down bad for that catholic poon, otherwise I don't know why one would lie to ones own children like that.
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@kuddlykennen2893 He's the pope of the church of prefixes.
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@abhcoat I became an atheist, because I learned more about religion to defend it.
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@lysanderofsparta3708 The idiotic arguments you're parroting have literally never persuaded anyone, who wasn't already persuaded. Firstly a necessary entity is not the same thing as the Christian god. It's a complete bait and swtich. Secondly any argument for a necessary entity might just as well argue that the entire cosmos as it is is necessary. In general if you have to make recourse to philosophy to argue for your favourite cryptid, it just means you have zero evidence. You also completely missed the point of the conversation. Your co-religionist didn't argue FOR his religion philosphically. He argued that his evidence is as good as the evidence of 2vnews.
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@bradleymcdonald6273 >We can't definitively prove that goblins don't exist... Do you believe in goblins? Do you murder or abuse people, because goblins told you so? If people applied the same standards of evidence to their god as they do to goblins, the world would be a much better place.
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@B.Mega.D >science and faith are NOT at all mutually exclusive... They are literally opposites. Faith is about ignoring all evidence and holding on to handed down dogma. Science is about trying to match reality as well as possible, questioning and checking yourself systematically. >You're free to believe whatever you like No, I'm not. Believing something isn't voluntary. You believe in something that has been demonstrated to you, whether you want it or not. You cannot make yourself not believe in the existence of cows.
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@ImperiumMagistrate Firstly that you're gonna die is simply the truth and unavoidable. Secondly if I'm gonna lie to someone to comfort them, the absolute last thing I would do is to tell them that the cosmos was created and is ruled by a ruthless egomaniac psychopath, who loves nothing more but to torture his helpless creation. If you think the cosmos being ruled by a ruthless egomaniac psychopath is preferable to you simply dying, then you're most egoistic madman I've ever met. If I wanted to lie to someone to comfort them, I'd tell them that their soul goes to another dimension or some other new age stuff.
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