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Comments by "Taxtro" (@MrCmon113) on "Biblical 'Noah' Believer Baffled by Basic Questions" video.
Even if he just kept frozen embryos of all the animals, it would make no sense. The more different animals he takes with him, the more space does he need. The less he takes with him, the more must diversity explode after the flood.
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Well he did kill himself. In order to forgive himself for what he did. Doing this he had to fuck a virgin and make her give birth to himself. Damn this guy is my favourite deity. XD
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Michael Williams You brought a bible verse up. Something being written down doesn't make it true. Further literalists like you are simply dishonest. Different texts in the Bible often contradict eachother. I don't think you were ever educated or informed yourself about the origins of biblical texts, though... : /
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***** If JHWH was a loving god, he would have judged everyone according to his crimes. He did not. He murdered everyone, drowned all of the earth, all of the animals that couldn't live underwater. This is no justice, this is indifference or cruelty. How one can read the Old Testament and say that JHWH is a loving god, is beyond me. He's as cruel as any other deity in mythology.
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Christopher Blackman The ark is big for a ship but TINY for something that should store every animal. Even if it was more than thrice the size of the biggest aircraft carrier, it would still be much too small. Well all unless you say, that after the flood the animals reproduced and changed at a rapid rate...
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Night Elf "Or, are you upset that people who do believe in a sovereign Creator also believe the Creator requires His creation to live by His laws?" So you think when one creates someone, he can torture him however he wants? It seems so to me.
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Even if Noah just kept frozen embryos, this makes no sense at all. The more animals he takes on the ark, the more space he needs. The less he takes on the ark, the more must variety explode after the flood. The humans must have seen vertebrates giving birth to hundreds of animals who cannot mate with eachother. Coming from whatever fits on this little boat to all the variety we see today is just ridiculous. I think many people have a bad grasp on how huge the variety is.
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Christopher Blackman No, no, no. XD You want to take cats, bears and wolves separately?! That takes way to much space. You gotta go with one carnivore mammal at max. If you want to get all of the invertebrates on the ark, too, you probably can only take one mammal. The ark wouldn't even be enough for all different beetles. Taking all of these mammals separately would correspond with taking thousands upon thousands of beetle species. Why don't you just appreciate those myths for what they are. The people of yore didn't know about the great variety of species. They were just telling a nice story. The size of the ark seemed, to the people at the time, gigantic - far above what they thought possible for an ordinary person. Is it not an uplifting thought, that we have since build larger ships? That our ingenuity has surpassed the imagination of our ancestors?
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Christopher Blackman "Just because some animal has wings doesn't automatically make it a bird." Tell that to the people who gathered the stories for the bible. XD The "kind" is a notion from times when we knew little about biology. Kinds are the perspective on the natural world a child has: there are chickens, pigs, cows, on the farm. Three kinds. But when you really look at nature, there are no certain kinds, there's a spectrum of organisms, all of them relatives.
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Christopher Blackman No, we know better. We have discovered way more living animals (ring species!) and fossils. The fossils of felines and canines become ever different and ever more similar. It is obvious they share a common ancestry. The same goes for artiodactyls. Also it's not like there is a genetical gap between the different "kinds".
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Yeah many rather believe in a cruel god, than in one that has limited power, or in no god at all.
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1mantisco Let's just put aside for a moment, that a global flood a few thousand years ago is completely ridiculous for anyone with a basic knowledge of geology. Is it not strange, that there are only flood stories in regions with lots of floods? Shouldn't other civilizations have mentioned a worldwide flood in their myths?
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That's not the astonishing thing, the outrageous claim is that all the vertebrate land animals came from this one ship a few thousand years ago.
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You probably think that 7 days is a short time. It was intended to be a long time. The Hebrew priests wanted a creation myth that stresses the difference between their religion the one of the Babylonians. That's why the first creation story (the second one to be written) came about at the time of the Babylonian exile.
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walking intheword Well that's researchers figured out. When you have a better theory about the origins of the creation stories, you can publish it whenever you want.
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"The Holy Bible seems incorrect to an unbeliever." So you don't have an argument at all? You just say that it seems incorrect until you believe it?! Well that's kinda trivial, isn't it? That's really a pathetic cop out and not the way you, I or any other human thinks normally. Otherwise we couldn't even figure out how to keep alive for one day.
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Michael Williams It's true because I say so... See that's what I mean with pathetic. You're not even trying.
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