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@zezu8940 "well I never said there wasn’t a Jewish state" - then what's your point on this? " Therefore when you say “Arab” are you denying their ancestors" - how so? there is a clear demarcation of jews and arabs - except cities they never were mixing on this territory - exactly why plan "two states for two peoples" was adopted. "Hebrew, cannanites etc" - hebrew were cannanites too - cannanites is a collective name for DIFFERENT ethnic groups who lived there. You don't know history. "Palestinian" - are jews palestinians? "prove it" - what??? Learn history. "only to prove that Palestine wasn’t established as a state" - palestine was a name of the land, nothing more. "Palestinians were struggling under British occupation after being split from the Islamic empire" - so, apparently your "palestinians" don't include jews - Q.E.D. - you are referencing to "palestinians" invented in 1964. "why were there 11% Jews" - because jews were actively displaced by occupations before.
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@zezu8940 "they didn’t choose to leave" - they did - their leaders, persuaded by arab states who attacked Israel in 1948, asked them to leave in anticipation of |)estruction of Israel - the goal claimed by these arab states "they were forced" - it's a lie. "and they were also told that they would return after a week" - by WHOM? and how they were told they will return??? see above.
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@zezu8940 "well I never said there wasn’t a Jewish state" - then what's your point on this? " Therefore when you say “Arab” are you denying their ancestors" - how so? there is a clear demarcation of jews and arabs - except cities they never were mixing on this territory - exactly why plan "two states for two peoples" was adopted.
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@zezu8940 "well I never said there wasn’t a Jewish state" - then what's your point on this?
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@zezu8940 " Therefore when you say “Arab” are you denying their ancestors" - how so? there is a clear demarcation of jews and arabs - except cities they never were mixing on this territory - exactly why plan "two states for two peoples" was adopted.
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@zezu8940 "Hebrew, cannanites etc" - hebrew were cannanites too - cannanites is a collective name for DIFFERENT ethnic groups who lived there. You don't know history. "Palestinian" - are jews palestinians? "prove it" - what??? Learn history.
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@zezu8940 my comments are getting removed lol don't see a point to continue learn history - not that propaganda you used to eat.
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@zezu8940 it's quite apparent that your "palestinians" don't include jews - so you are referring than to the invented in 1964 "palestinians". And these "palestinians" have no any rights at all.
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@zezu8940 "Clearly my point is that modern day" - well, your point is false as demonstrated. "but rather were forced to through terror and threat" - it's a lie. "came from western sides" - it's a lie. "Understand that the Arabs didn’t have armies" - you don't know the history of this war - you was fed propaganda. again, let's finish - apparently, if you are not ready to recognize Israel, there is no common ground to negotiate - then let's the war decide.
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@zezu8940 "Clearly my point is that modern day" - well, your point is false as demonstrated.
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@zezu8940 "but rather were forced to through terror and threat" - it's a lie.
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@zezu8940 "came from western sides" - this is not just a lie - it's complete and utter nonsense.
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@zezu8940 "Understand that the Arabs didn’t have armies" - you don't know the history of this war - you was fed propaganda.
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@zezu8940 again, let's finish - apparently, if you are not ready to recognize Israel, there is no common ground to negotiate - then let's the \/\/ar decide.
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@zezu8940 "Arabs didn’t have armies but formed into resistance groups" - and Egypt, Transjordan, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia and Yemen should be names of these "groups"... rrrrright... do you think this nonsense of yours is anyhow believable? lol
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@zezu8940 "but never brought proof" - notice how you never brought proof of your nonsense, and I don't need to prove your nonsense is lie - it's impossible to prove negative.
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@zezu8940 BTW at what longevity of displacement natives loses their right to return and colonizers becomes natives? because clearly jewish population of this land was displaced by babylonians 2500 years ago and this territory was populated by colonizers. So to your standard those, who you call "palestinians" are colonizers, and jews returning to their homeland are natives. Much of double standards, huh?
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@zezu8940 my point is that more you analyze this logical puzzle more you realize that there is only two impartial logical solutions: 1. any colonizer acquires right to the land - in this case zionist "colonizers" have equal right with post-babylonian colonizers; 2. colonizers never acquire right to the land - in this case jews returning to their homeland have rights while post-babylonian colonizers - including "palestinians" - don't. Any other solution would necessary include self-serving condition which makes it intellectually dishonest.
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@zezu8940 nonono, my friend, you actually characterized returning jews as colonizers - and by this pretend you refused them the right to re(create) their home state. So, the logical problem you are facing is above. Enjoy.
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@zezu8940 and one more point - I already mentioned you have no idea of history - your argument with canaanites is absolutely horrible - yes, arabs are canaanites - but it doesn't mean they are endogenous to the land of Israel - they are descendants from specific part of southern levant - sinai peninsula and arabian peninsula - Arabia - why they are called arabs - they are not endogenous to land of Israel.
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@zezu8940 "and then you go on to say that Arabs are canaanites and that they come from levants" - you said it in the way as I produced some kind of contradiction - where? then you continued with some irrelevant questions. Arabs and jews both semites in terms of genealogy - by the same means as all people are the same african origin - it doesn't make you, personally, endogenous african - does it? Arabs are canaanites, but not endogenous to land of Israel. Jews are canaanites and endogenous to land of Israel - is it that hard for you to understand? "The ancient canaanites come from ancient Can’an which existed before that region became the KINGDOM OF JUDEA" - it doesn't work this way - canaanites are descendants of nomad tribes populated the area including sinai peninsula, west of Jordan river and arabian peninsula - those of them who populated west of Jordan river became jews, and others became arabs. I just can't figure out what's your problem with understanding of this simple concept other than your indoctrination.
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@zezu8940 "cannanites who lived there before the Jewish tribes" - talking about history and knowledge, lol. I just commented above, but this piece (of work) doesn't let me to stop laughing - one more time - there were no "Jewish tribes" - there were nomads who populated the area and these tribes called altogether "canaanites" - and THEN they diverged - into jews (Israelites) and arabs - from THIS point in history we trace who endogenous to what.
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@zezu8940 and BTW - you didn't solve that logical puzzle above... well, it's not solvable, of course - and if you were honest you would give up that "zionist colonizers" idea immediately. But you will not. See, I believe in you, lol :)
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@zezu8940 " It takes a strong person to admit their fault" - "and the IDF admitted" - good to know you agree that IDF consists of strong persons 😁 btw what about you? that logical puzzle above? or you are not that "a strong person"? lol
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@zezu8940 I explained you this puzzle above pretty thorough - stop pretending you don't understand 😁 not that I hoped you will admit your wrongs but rather to demonstrate your hypocrisy one more time 😋
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@zezu8940 "All that you said I replied to" - O RLY? WHEEEREE?? - I see nothing addressing puzzle itself starting with "my point is that" and followed "nonono, my friend, you actually" - absolutely nothing addressing the issue. Try again? lol
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@zezu8940 "Clearly my point is that modern day “Israel” is a colonizer" - how jews returning to their homeland are colonizers? and if their exile made them colonizers - why are you demanding to allow arabs, who left their homes in 1948, to return - wouldn't they be colonizers by the same standard? lol puzzle puzzle puzzle :)
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@zezu8940 nonono, let's clarify this matter - do you claim that people who were coming to mandatory palestine and considering themselves jews were not realy jews? yes or no and I demand clear and straight answer - no weaseling - yes or no?
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@zezu8940 "no never claimed that" - oooooh, just beautifuuuuuuul. Let's continue, shall we. so, jews were coming to their homeland, at that time mandatory palestine, and in 1948 establishing state of Israel. But you call Israel colonizer - now, please, be kind and breach for me this gap - how endogenous population - which returning jews are - make colonization?
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@zezu8940 sooooo??
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@zezu8940 ...aaaaaaand?..
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@zezu8940 I asked you something - would you bother to answer?
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@zezu8940 there is no your second - YT deleted it. And frankly I have no idea how you would rationalize that nonsense. But you can try one more time - maybe it's even funny.
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@zezu8940 ...just want to warn you about definition of colonization: the action or process of settling among and establishing control over the indigenous people of an area. So please, try to not redefine words to fit your agenda.
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@zezu8940 so, I don't see your answer, probably you did and YT again deleted it. But whatever, I don't see any sane way you can reasonably construe how indigenous population colonized itself - it should be very twisted mental gymnastics. Your "Israel is a colonizer" is a complete and utter nonsense invented to serve evil antisemitic agenda.
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@zezu8940 so, I don't see your answer, probably you did and YT again deleted it. But whatever, I don't see any sane way you can reasonably construe how indigenous population colonized itself - it should be very twisted mental gymnastics. Your "Israel is a colonizer" is a complete and utter nonsense invented to serve very specific agenda we already saw in 1930th-40th.
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@zezu8940 so, I don't see your answer, probably you did and YT again deleted it. But whatever, I don't see any sane way you can reasonably construe how indigenous population colonized itself - it should be very twisted mental gymnastics. Your "Israel is a colonizer" is a complete and utter nonsense invented to serve very specific agenda.
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@zezu8940 so, I don't see your answer, probably you did and YT again deleted it. But whatever, I don't see any sane way you can reasonably construe how indigenous population colonized itself - it should be very twisted mental gymnastics. Your "Israel is a colonizer" is a complete and utter nonsense.
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well... you know, it's not GOP of Reagan already - it's Trump's what a shame
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@foundationuser5043 I know he has a savior complex
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@no.6243 nope, he did not neither did you
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@randallwinters7387 oh yeah, that was and is hilarious 😂 44 billion!!!11one take two, Elon!!! 😂
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@randallwinters7387 ...and then made it X 😂 OMG, rofl
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@DirtyRedMuzik nope, his actions didn't "keep WW3 at bay so far" - what logic do you follow? it's like to claim that Odin exists and Jesus doesn't - because Jesus promised to get rid off bad people and Odin promised to get rid off ice giants - and I don't see any ice giants anymore. So, it's you emotional, not me - I'm purely logical - your logical fallacy is post hoc ergo propter hoc.
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@sixmillionaccountssilenced6721 Ukrainian nuclear plant is under ruzzia's control and US don't have an access to it. Stop lying.
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@beowoulf355 you asked a loaded question - it can't be answered directly because it contains false presupposition - like if I asked you "have you stopped drinking whiskey in the morning?" which presuppose you are an alcoholic, and directly answering this question you would acknowledge that you are an alcoholic. So, please pay attention to my previous comment to be intellectually honest - you do want to be intellectually honest, right?
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@aymanabazid7865 and that damage was order of magnitude less than Israeli munition does. So, it's much likely arabs just began using more powerful rockets - and they did - we have their own posts about it, and even more - we have their messages about using it in exactly this attack attempt. So, there is no any doubt that it was arab's rocket.
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@aymanabazid7865 there are 2 videos - one from Israeli surveillance, and one from al jazeera - whichever better quality - I don't remember - it's clearly seen launch, then at least one rocket changes direction, and then explosion in hospital area (everything was geolocated)
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@aymanabazid7865 sure, it wasn't hamas - it was islamic jihad. Launch site was on Gaza territory. Iron dome operates over Israel territory - firstly, it doesn't make any sense to destroy rocket on ascending trajectory since destination can't be calculated properly, and Iron dome targets only those rockets which projected to Israel populated area. Secondly, Iron dome can only target ballistic projectile - which rocket on ascending trajectory is not. So, there is no way Iron dome anyhow participated here. Then what it has to do with Tel Aviv? on video it's absolutely clear - rockets fired over Gaza in direction over hospital, few seconds later one rocket on ascending trajectory suddenly changes direction, few seconds later we see explosion in hospital area. That's it - it's absolutely clear it was an arab's rocket.
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@aymanabazid7865 and I just watched al jazira "investigation" - it's full of video splicing and unsubstantiated claims regarding bombardments, and again - claiming Iron dome operating on ascending rocket, and nonsense with TelAviv which is 70km from Gaza and Iron dome's Tamir interceptor missile's operating distance is 17km. It was an arab's malfunctioned rocket.
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