Comments by "Kasumi Rina" (@KasumiRINA) on "Beware of These Words (with Miniminuteman) | Livestream Highlights" video.
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@D3adCl0wn that's because debunkers focus on wrong things. The governments ARE lying to people, but not in the way conspiracy nuts (which are often just supported by hostile actors) get fooled into... for example, one of the reasons a lot of Black people in USA are skeptical about vaccines and doctors is because of pretty horribly history of lies and abuse by Americans medics against their community. So instead of trying to debunk Earth shape, you need to focus on why people feel betrayed or left out by the state, and touch on the real issues that are obscured by conspiratorial nonsense...
Example, USA lied during Iran-Contra affair. Arming their enemies... people bring that up (or whatever related to Saddam) and assume the opposite side is truthful and eat up russian or Chinese propaganda with zero critical thinking... it's one of the reasons TikTok is harmful: undiluted CCP controlled platform. There are cooks who see "UK public broadcaster" label on BBC and scream it's propaganda while getting mad at russia today correspondent from UK like Galloway getting label of being labeled as "russian state media", which he is.
Address people's actual worries instead of just debunking each conspiracy at the time... you're fighting phantoms otherwise, a hydra, cut off one head, two more grow. SOMEONE WHO LOST TRUST IN MEDIA AFTER IRAQ WON'T RECOVER IT AFTER YOU PROVE THE HORIZON TO THEM, the issues are deeper and governments don't help it.
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Touché. You are trying to laugh at people who say "government is lying to you about shape of the Earth", because you debunk only the second part... Do I think tRump's government lied about vaccines, warp speed and all? No. Pfizer ones are good. Do I think Obama and Merkel lied when they said russian reboot is good and putin won't invade? Of course, I can hear the explosions outside my window... I deliberately chose one time the orange was on the right side, he supported vaccinations, and the horrible foreign policy of the West before (and during) his administration...
Governments aren't to be trusted. Western media lied about white-washing putin so many times, we in Ukraine consider New York Times a Kremlin-run paper... what it doesn't mean that russian media is better, it's WAY worse, like you can literally do the opposite they suggest, all the time. Problem in conspiracy nuts isn't that they're skeptical of mainstream but that they blindly believed it and then got their trust betrayed, so now become reactionaries who think that for some silly reason your government wants you to die instead of being healthy and paying more taxes forever.
Does anyone REALLY think that proving the Earth isn't a dinosaur shape would somehow stop gullible people from thinking the guys who sold weapons to Iraq, AND Iran, and currently export missile components to russia think about your well-being? No. The problem isn't mistrust in the government, which is warrented, it's blindly trusting foreign, hostile governments... like FFS, just because NATO leaders are crooked and want to buy oil from russians without those pesky Ukrainians complaining doesn't mean you can bloody believe in TikTok under Chinese Communist party's watchful eye!
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