Comments by "Kasumi Rina" (@KasumiRINA) on "Was Homer a Real Person?" video.

Jokes aside we are literally missing the second part, it's the one with the horse and only thing that survived were the reviews and they said Illiad 2 Electric Boogaloo was not very good.
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They probably also had songs, plays, games and stuff like puppet or shadow theater that worked as the time's equivalent of modern pop culture. It wasn't just oral stories and theater but the whole tradition around it... For example the horsey story is not in Illiad, we lost the source, and only know about the Trojan Horse from pop culture osmosis ALL THE WAY FROM ANTIQUITY and a brief mention in Odyssey.
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@loke6664 I am not sure why people argue about accuracy while it's clearly a work of fiction... I imagine future historians finding Manhattan but then arguing about not finding a giant alien spaceship. OF COURSE historical fiction uses real events from the past and places as the background, that's how it works... This works for most parts of the world, take Norse Sagas or Slavic Byliny, Kyiv and Constantinople were real places and some characters mentioned were historical... But there's also mythology intertwined with it. Troy has literal Olympian gods in it... Reason people forget it is the Brad Pitt adaptation cutting that away during the era movies were obsessed with faux realism.
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Quran isn't a complete outlier, as Torah preceded it and had almost no changes as we can see even oldest scrolls having same text as later ones with minimal typos or changes.
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I mean it's a whole story cycle like Arthurian legends or Marvel nowadays. Why wouldn't it have multiple art pieces in different genres related to each other? Like in China they had oral tradition, historical notes, literature, folk plays etc. all touching on same characters i.e. Guan Yu. We can treat Trojan stories the same way, as a shared legendary universe. With Illiad and Odyssey being established canon works. And a few between them being Lost Media.
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Of course and so is Bart and Marge... Lisa, however, is fake.
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@PeloquinDavid Flood stories are pretty common and Rabbinic sources that compiled the OT Bible pretty clearly went out of their way to remove pagan Babylonian influence as cults of Ishtar and the like were a huge problem in Jewish society around and post Babylon exile.
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There's also unrelated, later Art of War by Sun Bin, which was considered lost. And a lot of other treatieses on war from China. What's interesting in Sun Tzu's art of war is that we have commentary on it that's longer than the book itself, one of the earliest written by Cao Cao of later Han era, right before Three Kingdoms. Then later era generals and statement added on top and you have layers upon layers of historical people attributing footnotes to the same book.
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@KSignalEingang with Shakespeare there were conspiracies that it was an entire group or something, but any literary analysis can show there's a lot of common between all of his plays, like you can see he was great at psychology (hence, problem plays), but had issues with fantasy elements. Witches part in MacBeth seems to be copied from another playwright, and the big twists in it are so underwhelming it took until Tolkien to fix "walking forest" and "no man of woman born".
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30:13 Yay! Odesa was actually named after Odysseus, what I didn't know was that he actually journeyed to Ukraine in the stories, though names got messed up later (i.e. Kherson is nowhere near temporary occupied Khersonesos, in Beauplan's map it was called Bilechowisce but later Greekified as part of imperial colonization project). Olbia is now Yuzhne/Pivdenne, port that's been bombed every other week and Tyras is the site of Akkerman fortress, Bilhorod-Dnistrovs'kyi (lit. white City on Dniester river – every Slavic country has some form of Belgrad lmao).
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