Comments by "Kasumi Rina" (@KasumiRINA) on "Who Controlled Jerusalem the Longest?" video.

15k+ years ago neither Jerusalem nor atheism existed.
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@zigadabooga no, I am limiting atheist time to atheism actually existing.))) Or you think people who made Venus statues and idols with lion heads were somehow euphoric?
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@zigadabooga Why are atheists always so confidently incorrect? Hinduism isn't even the oldest religion in India, Vedic religion predates it by millenia. Both are still newer than Pyramids. But organized religion obviously predates Jerusalem, Karahan Tepe is a religious site from more than 12k years ago, and people made idol figurines tens of thousands of years before them.
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Eastern part of our country was mostly populated by steppe tribes and didn't have major cities until very recently, Donetsk, for example, was founded by John Huges, from Wales, in ripe old year of 1869. The other big city, Luhansk, dates to at least 1790s and was founded by Charles Gascoigne, also a Brit. Now, southern cities had Greek, Roman, Genoan, Ottoman and even Lithuanian control, and Kyiv absolutely should be done like that, it's one of three main Holy Cities for Orthodox Christians, along with Constantinople and Jerusalem.... But also, Western part has even more fascinating history of sides changing, even within one lifetime, here's a classic joke.: "A man stands in front of Heaven's Gate. Saint Peter asks 'Where were you born?' The man thinks for a moment and says 'Austria-Hungary, Lemberg.' 'Where did you go to school?' 'Poland, Lwow.' 'Where were you married?' 'The Ukrainian S.S.R., Lviv.' Surprised, Saint Peter asks 'Where was your first child born?' 'In the German Reich.' 'And where did you die?' 'At home in Lvov, in the Soviet Union.' Astonished, Saint Peter shouts 'My, you moved around a lot!' 'What are you talking about? I never left the city!'"
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It's kind of the deal with Holy Cities, you of course have Rome, then Istanbul/Constantinople/Byzantium that a lot of people are pining for, notably Latins, Slavs, Turks and Greeks all see it as important as the second Rome, and there's Kyiv, control of which is the next best thing to proclaim yourself a successor to Romei. These are the big ones in Christianity.
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4:20 I know many people said that, but in addition to your view of one tribe (Levi) having a smaller Exodus, the story can be an allegory to ganging autonomy/independence from Egypt, kind of like countries breaking up from USSR see it as their own little Exodus... BUT, there's also Amarna letters showing that despite de jure control of Canaan by Egypt, central govt. didn't send reinforcements as the Levant was invaded exactly at the time pharaoh Amenkhotep the IIIrd changed his name to Akhenaten and got his stint with isolationism and monotheism in a new capital he sent everyone building... So these stories are ABSOLUTELY related, and we need to dig more into what happened around that period. Especially knowing how hard Egypt tried to censor the whole Aten stuff. There's many similar motifs and Egyptian loss of control over its colonies in the Levant (even if they regained it) IS part of history. AND in addition to things happening around Amarna period, there's Hyksos invasion, Merneptah Stele, and numerous intermediate periods during which Egypt lost control of itself, let alone faraway provinces on another continent. At this point it seems like heavily romanticized version of Canaanites gaining independence from Egypt and fighting over those who wanted 1) to "return" being a vassal 2) to bring back polytheism (golden calf story). 40 years also seem to be symbolic, as in just explaining period of uncertainty and that only AFTER the generation born in Soviet Uni–Egypt passed on, true freedom could be established. People are arguing about myth vs history, completely ignoring the most obvious option of it being a parable loosely describing real events in allegorical terms. And Bible is FULL of parables and allegories, from the poor man with a single lamb to the prodigal son.
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19:50 If you combine Saladin and Fatimids with pharaohic Egypt (same country) they would be a good contender to at least top 5 and pretty sure paganism would have more years if we manage to count between city founding and rise of monotheism, but still pretty splendid work!
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To answer to your final question, Ukraine should control Jerusalem. Not only Zelenskyy is the only Jewish leader who has the distinction of not being Netanyahu, but also because WE DO NOT EVEN WANT IT, we're just the only adults with sizable army on the planet. Alternative is Syria. Yes, the current govt. that deposed Assad, we need to help them against Netanyahu to reclaim MORE than just Golan heights.
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@robocop4209 according to reality, Egypt didn't start in Canaan, native people already lived there before Egyptians arrived.
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Egypt, specifically, is FAMOUS for rarely having full control of its territories, intermediate periods and all, and even did an 180 when Ali Pasha got them an autonomy inside Ottoman Empire. Also, nailing Exodus to any specific period is ridiculous, why not set it before intermediate period or when Canaan was effectively left to its own devices during Akhenaten's reign?
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@DanielGolding1337 Egyptians assumed almost direct control of Egypt in early 1800s (Ali Pasha had no less autonomy from Ottomans than last of Ptolemies from Rome), and then they revolted in 1952 and since then at least two more times, so Egyptians not only fully control Egypt, but also overthrow the government on regular basis if they don't like it, so they ABSOLUTELY have more control over their country than, say, murricans.
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Really great video, one thing, we can probably reasonably assume there were a few centuries of paganism at the start before formation of Judaism, it's just impossible to count right now since there isn't concrete information at what year the house of David started. If you can, please make one like this about Kyiv, second Holy City in Orthodoxy, and possibly Odesa and Lviv. Which changed owners a lot in Eastern Europe. Just count Soviets separately from ru empire because those were mortal enemies.
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@samf8777 specifically, the Merneptah stele says "Israel is laid waste—its seed is no more;" which of course implies it was a known state that already existed for significant time. So when people mention it as first foreign historical record of it, they need to include the context that it (falsely) claims its total destruction. Without this context people can assume it mentions its emergence.
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Eh... Egypt didn't always have full control of their faraway places, especially in Canaan, and depending on period they could be almost fully autonomous. In fact, a story of "escaping Egypt" kind fits as allegory to throwing down the imperial control, you know, fight for independence. Egypt collapsed so many times, any nation that suddenly had pharaoh's tax collectors not show up had their own little exodus.
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@ou6775 Romans, Persians, Babylonians, Mongols, Greeks, Turks, Arabs, Egyptians, Israelites, so... just humans?
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historical inclusivity and freedoms are irrelevant since same group isn't guaranteed to behave the same in modern day, i.e. Turkiye isn't the same as Ottomans.
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@voidvector literally here in Ukraine, we have MILLIONS of ВПО, "temporarily resettled people" whose homes are in Crimea, Donetsk or Luhansk, plus smaller towns occupied after 2014 and 22, and in Syria, plenty of people fled to Jordan or Turkiye, but tons were living in Idlib until Aleppo, Damascus, and the rest of their country was freed a few months ago.
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@Scrubermensch there's interpretation author of this channel subscribes to that the prophecies aren't specifically about future that will happen, but warnings of what MIGHT go if people stray from God, and they're often retellings of past disasters, i.e. decisive battles in Megiddo or Jerusalem getting sacked. I love to picture apocalyptic literature not as connected to one specific date and time, but as permanent reality that keeps going in cycles, and one prophecy might be applicable to multiple situations (both past and future). But on the other hand there's some stuff that only applies to one situation, I mean, how many places named after Wormwood had a disaster with the same reaction as on the stars (nuclear)? None of the places in Japan have fitting etymology.
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Ukraine should control it. Because out of all Jewish world leaders, Zelenskyy is... not Netanyahu, which is objectively the best argument and nobody can deny it.
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We are in a world war already over control of Kyiv, not Jerusalem. With North Korean and Chinese troops already in Europe, and some of our troops fighting in Africa, that America didn't join yet doesn't make it less of a world war since Americans are ALWAYS too late.
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"He prayed on Fridays with the Muslims, on Saturdays with the Jews and on Sundays with the Christians. 'Since each religion claims that it is the only true one and that the others are invalid', the king explained, 'I have decided to hedge my bets.'" –Ibn Rustah about some king. I am picturing Beni from the Mummy on a throne.
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Kyiv is in the same time zone just a bit north... still hasn't recovered.
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@nadashaker6037 the historical Philistines from Iron Age, specifically, are NOT native to Canaan, but one of sea peoples that came from Europe, Cyprus and the Balkans. The NAME is related, but only because or Romans being mean, in reality, locals have NOTHING to do with them, and are instead descendants of people who always lived there with some mix in. Speaking Arabic language doesn't make one native to Arabian peninsula, as people in North Africa and Levant both maintained their unique genetics despite the assimilation into Arabian culture.
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