Comments by "Kasumi Rina" (@KasumiRINA) on "Earliest Depictions of Jesus in Art" video.

I really dislike how Westerners use cultural appropriation term: people respectably dressing up in other nations clothing or adapting stories to fit local style isn't appropriation. Americans saying "we're the ones who invented pizza" is.
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I actually unironically subscribe to the Emerald city concept of God: they reveals themselves in the form that's accessible to humans. Different for everyone.
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@unabortable5695 didn't shroud of Turin get radiocarbon dated to Renaissance? It's a shame Catholics fixate on relics so much bcause the Shroud is amazing as both earliest photography attempt, and as a genuine Christian art. It doesn't NEED to be a real funeral shroud to be glorifying Jesus, being an art object is good too.
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@unabortable5695 "In 1988, radiocarbon dating by three independent laboratories established that the shroud dates back to the Middle Ages, between the years 1260 and 1390"
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Many Greek Catholics are in Ukraine too, and Uniate church in Belarus, which dates back to awkward period of Latin kingdom in Constantinople.
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Is that like memes with separate bottom text?
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We do have depictions of SOME figures mentioned in the Bible dating to their time, mostly kings... But true, images are always artistic.
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9:30 Chiton (tunic) made from whole garments and himation (mantle) with tassels are mentioned multiple times in Gospels. The translations decide to not use complex words so the bleeding woman is touching the fringe of Jesus garment, but original text mentions tassels on himation.
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 @deborahdean8867 they also tried to stone Him for heresy like healing on Sabbath so we don't even know how observant Jesus was of other tradition.
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Seth's animal is unknown actually, could be donkey could be aardvark for all we know. Egyptians also kinda assimilated and stopped following their religion around that time. THAT SAID, Seth WAS associated with foreigners, specifically semites, it didn't help Egypt leading god being sun deity and for Middle Easterners and Greeks, a storm one.
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If you look at footage from Syria, Israel or Palestine (most of which is reused Syrian footage), you can see people there are extremely diverse, and picturing entire Middle East looking the same is a Western stereotype. Reality is, we didn't know. And it doesn't matter.
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@tomhalla426 ...no? Japan is a very homogeneous country, Middle East is the world's melting pot region with more than a dozen countries. It's more like saying someone "looks American"... Which tells you nothing.
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@ for example, both Scarlett Johannson and Salma Hayek have Middle-Eastern ancestry. Do they look anything alike? Aside from being hot.
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@Naxskyz I'm Ukrainian, our Bibles were translated directly from Hebrew and Koine for NT, not from King James version.
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@mercy8370 Old Testament doesn't work in Christianity, that's correct. Look, quoting Judaist Bible at Christians is as much as a gotcha by quoting Roman empire laws to call out modern Italy.)))
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@CIARACEWAR What was? Radiocarbon scans? How.
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@BrunoVelius they can run modern, more sophisticated tests, but Catholic church refuses because they love to peddle their relics... Which is a shame, as a work of religious art it's much more interesting than as a legend.
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@BrunoVelius Whatever was in your first comment, it literally doesn't show in this thread. So that might be the reason for ignoring it. We need digital 6th sense I SEE PURGED COMMENTS.
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And Armenia Jesus has bigger nose, Ethiopian Jesus has darker skin and Japanese Jesus has slanted eyes, it's a normal thing. @Emoji_Smiles Yes, Judaea would be renamed Palestine a century later,.after Romans squashed Jewish revolts.
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2:04 looks the same as modern Orhodox icons. They really follow the compromise bewteen icon painters and iconoclasts that only symbolic, stylized images are to be made so the depiction hasn't changed since. That's how non-westerners imagine Jesus, in general.
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It's the same with Ethiopian, Armenian or Japanese depictions of Jesus. And it makes sense, of course the image should be relatable. Catholic Jesus looks like Italian man and Orthodox lime a Greek. Only Americans made a redneck.
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We know that in late 16th and 17th centuries Japan they did exactly that, but also made Omi-E, foot icons for stepping on, to detect Christians. Curiously, a bunch of Kirishitani managed to worship in secret for 250 years of isolation, later assimilating into mainline churches. They had unique art and traditions. Soviet persecution was different in that they drew deliberately evil looking saints and Jesus as part of satire mags or movie decorations. Real icons were defaced en masse.
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