Comments by "buddermonger2000" (@buddermonger2000) on "Jordan B Peterson"
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My issue is that while this perfectly describes the internal divide of the west and allows a clarity of view on the situation that we currently face at home, it takes a divide not present in Russia, a cultural misunderstanding of the way Christianity works in Russia, and the facsimile played by Russia to drum up nationalist support for the war and then spins it into a narrative which doesn't actually apply in this war. This essay, though well-written and well-spoken leads astray all who hear it and plays into the natural tendency of the West to see themselves as the ones at fault. It's the same thing the left does when it pushes its authoritarianism. It is the same facsimile which allows the flourishing of the Marxist takeover of the West in the absence of God.
But you fail to see the reasons for this war, why the West is supplying Ukraine (a place we don't care about), and the limitations Russia faces. Russia is a dying nation which no longer controls the avenues of attack. It does not matter if the West didn't have these new Marxist cultural values it matters that Russia does not hold control. Russia is the giant which seeks domination of all avenues of invasion from its homeland. But it is one without the population to do so any longer. It is the last war Russia can even launch.
For you I recommend listening to Peter Zeihan a man who looks at things without the cultural lens that you navigate so eloquently. Zeihan quite masterfully outlines the issues which plague the modern Russian Federation (and indeed Ukraine and Belarus as well), and shows exactly why this war is happening. The issues are such of an inability to perform modern battlefield tactics and thus realizing that the situation is such that Russia coming for the rest of the NATO alliance (an inevitable outcome as Russia is in a desperate push to reach its historic avenues of invasion by force) will result in Russia truly falling into the corner that is so feared. As long as no troops set foot on Russian, Ukrainian, or Belarusian soil then Russia is not cornered. Russia has ground. Russia will not be forced into nukes. If Russia is subject to the humiliating defeat which would come if it invades the west proper, then it truly is forced to use the nukes and it is the outcome which is most desired to be avoided. Without the decimation of the Russian army in Ukraine however then Russia comes full force into the NATO realm and triggers the inevitable series of events which leads to the 10 minute war which would mark the end of history.
Furthermore I would like to address this idea of yours that the current global order would be possible to maintain going forward. No I must apologize but said order is going away no matter what. It is an inevitability at this point. Covid and the Russian invasion have truly shown that the order is on the out-and-out. What comes next is the normal state of the world without this global order. The Americans have already decided consistently that since the end of the Soviet Union that it no longer desires to keep up the globalized order and prefers to deal with regional issues. It desires little to deal with Eurasia anymore and prefers to now deal with the islands outside of the continent. This is the end of the globalized order as we see it. No-one who wants it can keep it intact. The time to decide how the world would go forward was in the immediate aftermath of the collapse of the Soviet Union but in the US's continued lack of desire to make a choice in the matter and focus on its issues at home it has since abandoned that idea to let it run entirely on inertia which is now running out due to issues such as demographics within the world. This world system is at its end. There is no saving it.
I understand that on the face of it the radical left has gone unabashedly in support of somewhere that we simply do not care about. That is not in our sphere of desired influence and has no bearing on ourselves without further look. However in looking deeper we find the true source of the problem which I've outlined here in this response. One which is far more dangerous than simply supporting a nation at war against the Russians. It's the less risky path in an attempt to prevent a situation which leads inevitably to the destruction of all mankind. In being the only path which prevents that destruction it is of strategic and moral imperative to support Ukraine in its defense. And to this I'd like to ask you to expand your view, outlines, and analysis to the material which does affect the cultural. As such a student of history I would ask you to study economies, demographics, and geography. At least enough to see how they interact and influence the development of countries and cultures. In learning of these you may yet get an understanding of the world which is more clear than nearly anyone else in all faculties of life than simply of the great influence you are on the cultural front.
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