Comments by "buddermonger2000" (@buddermonger2000) on "Why Humans Are Vanishing" video.

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  3. ​@dopaminecloud Here's the problem: mass starvation is actually not an outcome because social factors from overpopulation naturally curb the population. There's a reason growth was small for so long, and it's high death. There are plenty of ways to die via war and disease than before starvation occurs. Not to mention that starvation really only occurs due to crop failures as no population actually overloads carrying capacity. That was the myth of the population bomb and soylent green which never occurred. Carrying capacity can be increased, which is why we got the population explosion in the first place. Now, ironically, the way to cause mass starvation is to make countries deindustrialize because then you'd reduce the carrying capacity. Africa might face that in the wake of potential trade breakdowns. Separately, this sentiment is just completely out of step with the state of the world. No-one actually has population growth outside of countries on less than $5k USD, and real high fertility is closer to $500 USD. This is GDP per capita if you needed the elaboration. And the amount of countries getting over $5k is growing. This points to the idea that the population is already stopped growing and we will be going toward population collapse. Not population stability, but instead, population collapse. Population collapses lead to mass social problems, which lead to more people getting killed, and decent chance that actually restricts the food supply as it'd be a disruption on the inputs for that system, and thus actually cause mass starvation. When you take this attitude, you create a problem that cannot be solved. Overpopulation is a solvable problem. Population decline is not.
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