Comments by "Dharmadasa" (@dharmadasa66) on "PsycHacks" channel.

  1. See the 6:45 timestamp in the video. He specifically says, in relation to your past behaviour. If you are a shy virgin, hold hands in the most enthusiastic, passionate way you can. He will think "She is a virgin but really wants me above all others. I matter. I count. I bet she will be great going forwards". A man will estimate your past and come to the conclusion that his presence is driving you to greater levels of commitment and enthusiasm on your part.
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  2.  @ScarletRiley  The silent treatment is far from toxic when the toxicity is emanating from the other side. By refusing to validate drama it enervates that toxicity and eventually allows reason to enter the space. It is not necessarily passive aggressive, it can be patient and a form of leadership.
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  3. Women following this advice can lead high value men into considering marriage.
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  4.  @lauracolo06  You are avoiding the fundamental issue which is "What value does a women bring to a man and a relationship?". And no, it isn't being a boss babe or making money or demands he enable her career, or even the cleaning and housework. You misunderstand Dr. Taraban. He said basic services can be outsourced. Women talk about 'team' but never bother to consider what that means in regards their contribution. They think that they are team players just by existing. Women think they are the table and the prize without having to do ANYTHING and high value men know that is not true. So good luck getting one if you are not agreeable, kind, friendly, loyal, good-hearted etc. See the three videos he made for women: "How to get any man you want: (1) the master key; (2) the hook; and (3) the unbreakable rule."
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  5.  @clauaome25  Indeed. And so have men. So it should be. But men have figured out that women have stopped providing value and men are expected to continue to provide value, so the equation does not balance any more. That is what the whole discussion between the genders is about.
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  6.  @14margott  The reason men are no longer able to win a decent women's respect, love, affection etc. is because there are now very, very few decent women to provide such.
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  7.  @judithojiaka5346  By exploiting them. Aren't we talking about the same thing? I agree with your view on their desire for control. That exploitation is using their victims and rendering them useful to the dark triad individual, for gratification, exploitation etc. I think this is a verbal/semantic difference and we are aligned. The oppressor may still seek usefulness in their victim. It is up to normal people to avoid exploitation, so I agree we should not put ourselves in harm's way.
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  8. You are idealising mature women by assuming they bring significant value to a relationship, and deprecating men by assuming their preferences reflect malign motives (control and dominance). Many factors are in play and some might surprise you.
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  9. It is describing the reality, which is increasingly transactional, and men are waking up to the fact that women provide much less value than they used to. Heterosexual relationships are increasingly a power struggle since feminism turned them into that.
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  10.  @jared3003  Having children is not just "basically sex". It is far more.
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  11.  @mbg9650  This has to be sarcasm, right? Father's Day is a reminder that men could do more for women? Sarcasm, or utter self-absorption...please let us know.
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  12.  @roses6564  "That’s not for him to decide." Who is this he/him you are referring to? The OP (carlospita6442), or Dr. Orion Taraban in the video? How can you assert what he can or cannot decide? Who is the "us" you refer to? You and me, the commentators, society at large? How do you know he is a mountain of ego? Based on what? How can you claim that a "monopoly" on toxicity is assumed by one party in regards the other? Could it not be the case that when toxicity appears in the counterparty, silence can be an appropriate response? You seem to be saying that you alone have the ability to decide what people think, do and say, and that you can decide unilaterally what should apply in all situations. Then you accuse others of ego. You are cray cray, your sentences lack grammatical clarity, your assumptions are swingeing, you are setting up strawman arguments for the sake of your own ego and adding nothing to a debate on interpersonal dynamics other than wild accusations. Calm down. Stop pointing fingers based on boogie men in your own imagination.
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  13.  @hk5454  It is the women filing for divorce in 80% of marriage break-ups, not the men.
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  14.  @haroldb1856  Until the divorce which is a 50% certainty.
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  15. "Provided each one follows their roles"......and women's roles have changed massively, while men's remain the same. Women are no longer required to play a supportive role, and don't (in general).
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  16.  @yoohoo952  A high value man is what the woman values as high value. That is why it is called a 'market value'. When Orion asks women to consider how they get commitment from a high value man he does not define a high value man that much because obviously it is up to the woman to define it. If he does lean towards a general definition, it is because that is what most women (his audience) define as high value. As women tend to define such men in terms of success, then it is on them. Of course if a woman values compassion, empathy, loyalty etc. then she should seek that. His advice still applies: provide that man with value yourself. Why does all this need explaining in the modern age? Because people have lost sight of what value is, expecting everyone to provide it to them and not give anything back in return.
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  17.  @roses6564  Silly attempt to twist words. Obviously the comment is conditional with the word 'when'. Not always, "when". In those circumstances., when that occurs, in dependence upon that etc. Thus, you agree with me in your use of "Maybe, maybe not". So why are you arguing? For the sake of arguing, or appearing clever? You cannot be trusted to follow a grammatical and logical sequence and do not come across as clever or considered. You have added nothing to the discussion, what a bore.
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  18.  @roses6564  What do you mean? You are babbling.
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  19.  @andersnielsen6044  May be in Sweden and Nordic countries, not everywhere.
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  20.  @masterTigress96  Well said.
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  21. The channel is intended for any-one that has the intellect to understand it. Men and women. You can fairly say that other women have ruined it for genuine ones like yourself. Yes. Of course, some men are ruining it for other men too, in different ways. Society as the aggregate expression of the hearts and minds of men and women is ruining it for everyone too. The only solution is to express your own values, know and be true to yourself, and try to bring the best into your life and create it as you go. The ruination of men and women is a numbers game. You just have to play longer odds.
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  22. Absolutely agreeable personality is far and above the most important thing normal men seek in women. Everything else follows or is negotiable. A kind-hearted women is incredibly valuable and actually much much rarer than people think.
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  23. 6:45 timestamp in the video. Try to understand the significance of the 6:45 timestamp.
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  24. The tone is super important. The question should be reasonable, and not convey serious doubts, unless it is deserved. Of course it is fair to ask reasonable questions. The tone, and openness to a fair answer, is everything.
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  25.  @shyamalidasgupta671  Feminism has not notably led to the massive contribution to society from women that you claim. And your assertion that this would occur if only women were supported more is unprovable. Men still make by far the greatest contributions to human advancements and women opt for less taxing paths.
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  26. Look in your friend zone.
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  27.  @garrettdanielsii2305  And you are wrong right there. That is exactly what #3 is about.
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  28.  @filthycasual9381  Exactly. He is talking about the general transactional (two-way) aspects of relationships where roles are somewhat differentiated. The fact that Melawieeinapfel thinks of it as money shows where her priorities lie.
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  29.  @andersnielsen6044  But has she? And do the courts really adjudicate it fairly? Many people think not.
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  30.  @andersnielsen6044  I point out your conclusions are not generalisable across the world and you accuse me of failing to vote properly. Non-sequitur logical fallacy. Your thinking is feminine.
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  31. A market place set the overall exchange value through aggregating the individual choices, predilections, motivations and activities of countless individuals. Here the market refers to the collective outcome of human action. When people go to a market they each bring widely different reasons, desires, choices and exchange values. Nonetheless the market exists and the exchange value emerges as the average price point. That is why it is a market. Each vendor and purchaser acts independently, yet typically price discovery emerges. It is a model based on aggregated human action, in general, to deduce society wide effects. You are arguing that markets don't exist, have you ever been shopping?
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  32. It is still the black pill. Who says they will ever understand this or care? It is difficult to correct a person's view when their well-being and security requires them to ignore the truth.
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  33. Agreed. The reason he is pitching to a lower level is that unfortunately this is where we are as a society. Most people are operating at a very low level on the AQAL scale. Although your view is valid it would appear it is only accessible to a few. High cultures cultivate higher levels, and the West did until the mid 20th Century, but now the West is in steep declension.
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  34. Leaving is one.
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  35. Agree with the dual-mating strategy you outlined, already well underway and has been for decades. Alternatively, women marry the State and get all their support and protection from the biggest Daddy of them all, with a monopoly on force. Already well advanced in modern society across multiple domains. Other options are lesbianism (increasingly popular but probably only a short-term stop gap for predominantly heterosexual women), and longer -term, we will see the rise of polygamy (women sharing a high value man). Such high value men are likely to be servants of the plutocracy/State, leading to a convergence of interest between women and authoritarianism. Again, well underway.
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  36. ​ @rob21  Things get complicated when one side see themselves as "high value". Seeing yourself as 'high value' is indeed a problem and one that besets one sex in particular. The world is full of examples evertwhere you look and the sex ratio of delusion is highly skewed. I'll let you guess which way it goes.
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  37.  @rob21  That is why Dr. Taraban has to make these videos. To school the deluded.
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  38. Dr. Taraban goes down this route because his female clients identify 'high money earning' as what they value. The transactional issues start with their 'standards' I'm afraid.
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  39.  @Dewane1511  True. They don't care, and resent men for their agency. Freud called it penis envy, and he wasn't really talking about the organ. He proposed that is just the first manifestation in childhood. It grows from there.
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  40.  @masterTigress96  Think carefully about the timestamp starting at 6:45 in the video.
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  41. This is the absolute truth. This dynamic also underlies the problem of male disposability throughout society. People typically deprecate and de-humanise those they exploit, and the lack of empathy for men shown by women (the evidence is everywhere) has its roots in the need of women to use men for their resources while giving the bare minimum in return.
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  42. The world id full of men who want a stay-at-home wife and mother for their future kids. Something is blocking you from meeting them, probably you yourself.
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  43. 6:45 timestamp. 6:45 time stamp. In case you missed it, 6:45 timestamp. Please try to understand more deeply.
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  44. Demonstrate your stead-fast nature, possible not only in regards her, but other aspects of your life. Show her you pursue your goals but are ethical and guided by self-restraint, stoicism. You have character. Show her you are capable of being edgy but also have discipline. You have to mix it up.
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  45.  @QED_  Nailed it.
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  46.  @TheRomans9Guy  Well said, well said, laying out the truth here.
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  47. Funny how things never change right? I guess those old-time women were simply stupid, not like the modern boss babes who know exactly what's up.
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  48.  @jenkech5824  Until a better man comes along...to give you MORE.
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  49.  @shyamalidasgupta671  True
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  50. Put that question to the women and feminists who demand 'equality' while not providing it. Men are calculating the benefit/cost ratio and walking away.
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  51.  @lorrilewis2178  Your whole logic rests on the assertion that women in the past were generally subject to abuse by their husbands. But is this true? Life was a lot harder for everyone and social mechanisms acted to protect women to some degree, the only question we have is 'how many women (i.e. proportion,) suffered from abusive husbands, and how did those other mechanisms help to defray that suffering"? Of course women's freedom from such fates is a great thing, but it appears to have been bought by feminism at great cost, such that women's overall happiness is in marked decline from earlier generations. The anti-family side of feminism is one example of a hidden cost. We need objective data, not political propaganda.
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  52. Those are inputs to a healthy relationship. The actual outcomes are 50% divorce, and refusal by women to provide their role while demanding men provide theirs.
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  53. And we are in a dating stock market crash to be followed by a severe depression, so men are bailing out to cut losses.
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  54. it does not appear to be about the equality of the sexes nowadays. Your failure to acknowledge the costs is odd.
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  55. That is not what this video is about.
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  56. Happy marriages are very rare. 50% of marriages end in divorce and we can safely assume those were in the unhappy camp. Of the remained, it is estimated about 20% (i.e. 10% of total) are genuinely happy. So your selection of a the very few marriages that last the test of time to produce a happy outcome does not reflect the general reality.
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  57. Modern society is a short-lived and will collapse back. It is sustained largely by the efforts of men who mine, grow food, build and maintain infrastructure and the technology etc. Men still maintain the basic economy, women working in service roles are not as essential. The technology you speak of requires men, when women say they don't need men they are thinking immediately and short-term, but the social change underway are threatening even this. Men maintain law and order, who will protect you against criminals? Police men. Not women. So when discussing social arrangements, think about who sustains them and why, and if the technology and organisation is sustainable if men think it is not worth doing so.
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  58. In what way does advice to women on overcoming one of the deadly sins equate to inceldom in men? Logic failure.
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  59. Being useful goes way beyond secretarial support and maid services. That's just an inexact metaphor. It means giving support. Like, in empathy, interest, engagement, intimacy. Obviously a high value man can buy labour. Can he buy love? Clearly the support Orion is talking about means on the interpersonal level. It may come as a surprise to realise that most women don't provide these vital functions for a relationship with a good man. They are users just as much as men are.
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  60.  @BasementBerean  Except the State has intervened massively in the markets eg divorce laws. So we do not have ideal free markets as the cost/benefit calculus is massive distorted in favour of women. Also, the benefits provided traditionally by women tend to be less tangible or reducible to contract. So they can be withheld post-contract without accountability.
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  61. You forgot 'boss babe'.
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  62. A woman's 'usefulness' includes emotional support, tenderness, care etc. Not things that can be outsourced to worker drones. You need to think more deeply about value on both sides, as Orion does. The fact the you misunderstand the whole intent is not his fault.
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  63.  @hypnosecoachinghombach7517  Pretty much the same thing. Would you care to elaborate on the key differences?
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  64.  @beowulf_of_wall_st  The data and facts do not enter her calculus, nor do logical deductions. It is always personalised shaming and blaming when views that do not fit her solipsistic world view are presented. It was ever thus, and always will be.
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  65. Be a better judge of character. I thought women were the intuitive ones with high emotional IQ. Why don't you use all that to judge character?
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  66.  @bluebay0  They have no idea what they want. Or rather, confuse it all up with silly concepts that don't work and have no functional strategy.
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  67.  @strikingitrich7630  One aspect of the 'intangibles' is that it is not enforceable under contract, such as marriage. The financial contribution can be quantified and the 'love and affection' cannot. So withdrawal of those intangibles does not materially or contractually affect the woman as it should, hence the 'price' signals are wrong.
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  68. Actually psychopaths have a very fine tuned calculus of advantage and disadvantage, gain and loss, and seek personal gain without regard to the needs of others. However, they are very sensitive to any risk, negative consequence or loss to themselves and so will calculate the potential damage of your standing up to them. You have to be capable of hurting them and they have to know you can and will. Then they respect you, not morally and ethically, but through fear.
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  69. All this is changing. Dating and marriage are way down and loss of both tangible and intangible value is the reason.
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  70.  @mobilemcsmarty1466  Ow! Burn baby burn.
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  71. Traditional society emphasised the things you mentioned. We threw that under the bus and modern society is transactional. It is no better (and no worse) under socialism. Modernity whether capitalist or socialist is just selfishness, short-termism, lack of sacrifice and moral turpitude.
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  72. It is good that it is now reaching the mainstream. Should profound truths be spoken only once, or repeatedly so they stay in consciousness and spread to more people?
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  73.  @Alexxx492  I agree with all of that. The social engineers do not.
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  74. Buddha taught it too.
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  75. Check the timepoint at 6:45 in the video.
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  76. Some way? It's all over the place, women are shouting it from the rooftops and most of it is pretty low grade. 6 feet tall, 6 inches and six figure income. "Oh no, women value kindness, empathy and loyalty....and financial support, safety, emotional stability, good looks, etc etc. ". Well you still have to offer those guys something in return. The problem with women is they are entitled and don't offer much. That is why men are giving up on relationships and some are going overseas. All Orion is doing is asking women to be accountable for the part in establishing a relationship, in the ways most guaranteed to deliver them success. He has plenty of vids to help men learn what they need to offer women. Look at most of his other vids.
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  77. As noted above, high value men do not particularly value high social achievement (education, career success) in women. They already have that stuff themselves. It is not that they hate it, or deprecate it, or are intimidated by it, it just does not count for much in what they want from a woman. These are ancillary or adjunct qualities. What they want is kind-heartedness, empathy, agreeableness, loyalty, support and to be honest, a modicum of looks and sex appeal. That is why high value men are just as likely to marry the hairdresser, barista or waitress as they are the high-powered lawyer or physician. Of course a lawyer or physician can have these eminently feminine qualities if she puts her mind to it. However, most boss babes are mannish, combative and psychologically distorted by the struggle. A high quality woman complements a high quality man in the areas he lacks. Of course also, a female physician and doctor can marry a sweet caring broke man with no career prospects if she wants, but will she really? Will she be happy? How many do this? The funny thing is, being a high quality women (kind-hearted, empathic, agreeable, loyal, supportive etc.) should in principle not be that hard. It does not take years of work. However, it does take character and that is sadly lacking in modern women today. Men mourn the lack of such women. I also acknowledge that men also suffer form the degradation of character resulting from modernity.
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  78.  @ElizabethUkeh  Typically, before forming a long-term bond. Forming a long-term bond is closer to selfless love in men than women. Thats why women initiate 80% of divorces.
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  79. 95%
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  80.  @Nonfiction.Reader  Does not work for modern women either as these generous qualities are quite foreign to them.
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  81.  @lightbluedev  The system is merely reflecting a lot of individual choices made by men and women, as well as societal pressures from corporations and governments. Both men and women blame the opposite sex, and some on both sides take responsibility. However, most of the changes from traditionalism have been wrought by feminism, capitalism, socialism and corporatism i.e modernity. This is all just part of a long drawn out societal collapse.
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  82.  @lightbluedev  I agree
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  83. Yes, it's provided they know themselves and tell the truth. Unfortunately, the vast majority of people are shallow and people of accomplishment are rare. I wonder what the distribution of those qualities are across the sexes?
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  84. Biological wiring is not obsolete. It's like saying the metals that make up circuitry in hard-drives and computers are obsolete because we wrote new code.
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  85.  @JR-iy7pb  Indeed, the manosphere is replete with discussions of men dating down, in fact they see it as the default state, and was certainly the frequently case under traditional social norms. It is very rare among women and not to their satisfaction. The well-established tendency for women to divorce their husbands once their income exceeds his demolishes the argument put by @lorrilewis2178 which is based on personal anecdote not statistics. Female hypergamy is very very evident, notwithstanding some examples of responsible women who can earn more than their partners without a problem on either side.
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  86. Strangely enough, most of what men are looking for comes down to the same basic things: companionship, commitment, emotional support, love etc. That is what makes a proper relationship. So either you are able to find these things, in which case you have no problem, or you can't, in which case your analysis misses the wider social conditions. Society is operating at a very low level due to the erosion of ethics, morality and higher purpose etc. Hypergamous calculations are hard-wired and even the exchange of companionship, commitment, emotional support, love are 'transactional' in that they require an exchange. If the love is one-way, it is not reciprocated. Social science suggests the basal level of transactional calculus is dominant and as the value exchange does not favour men overall they are giving up on relationships. So are women, but in different ways. As others have pointed out, your experience is not really generalisable, and there may also be more subtle expressions of the value exchange implicit in your personal relationships.
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  87. Discussions about facts and sincerely held opinions are not necessarily motivated by emotional states such as insecurity, they can be based on analysis and receptivity to truth. Your appeal to emotionality as a motive for your interlocutors, and as a shaming tactic in an attempt to silence them, is very feminine and ultimately pointless for the purposes of furthering debate and understanding.
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  88. No-one who knows anything about it believes that High Value Males are only those with money and nothing else. This video does not assert that. It was your assumption that it relates only to economic factors. The point is that HVM are defined by women's wants and expectations and HVW by male wants and expectations. A HVW is not about her income or earning power. That is a part of HVM value but the word value transcends money. Otherwise people would just say "Rich".
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  89.  @lari5891  Increasingly less so. Also, the $$$ are only one part of multiple variables affecting the perception of High Market Value. The simplistic view erodes the use of discussing HMV as a model for relationship formation. Even in a normal market, people define value according to their own criteria. When people go shopping for handbags or vegetables they bring different criteria to bear in making their choice. Nonetheless, in aggregate, there is still a market. When you go to a supermarket, you exercise choice in what you do or do not buy. The supermarket or farmer's market definitely exists to service this diverse activity. That's what a market is. It does not mean all people behave the same way, or should.
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  90.  @EC-yl7xk  No-one! No good men help their wives in any way, shape or form whatsoever. They are all evil, exploitative pigs. You go girl!
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  91. Polygamy will increase as a choice made by women. It is weird however that while sex, reproduction and family concerns were predominantly the domain of women (with a major interest by men), you argue that it is up to men to fix the problem? So women have no responsibility for areas in which they have wielded power and interest from time immemorial? Men are leaving the playing field in droves by personal choice, the societal collapse is on those who have wrought massive social changes without thinking them through. You know who I mean.
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  92. ​ @tinachristine4573  Polygamy is a very ancient practice that predates civilisation and even human evolution. Many great apes, including our own ancestors, practice polygamy. It arises from biology not social conditioning and is an expression of female hypergamy and male promiscuity and the following factors: (1) female preference for superior genetics for her offspring; (2) female preference for greater resource access; (3) female desire for greater security; (4) female desire for social frameworks that provide the above; (5) desire by dominant males for reproductive access to more women; (6) the necessity thereby for males to assert dominance over other males. It was hugely disadvantageous for most men who were frozen out of reproductive success as a result. We can deduce that polygamy was the main reproductive strategy for proto-humans for about a million years as the DNA record proves that about 80% of all females reproduced whereas a much smaller proportion of males (the minority of males) did. They were frozen out. This is not a strategy that favors males. Monogamy is associated with the rise of civilisation as it allows most males to contribute productively to social growth by giving them a stake. Your assertions lack scientific evidence unlike mine, and are typical feminist cope based on ideology not facts.
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  93. Modern women are so far from the divine feminine as to be a joke. Who are you kidding? Adopting the worst aspects of faux masculinity, they throw their weight around acting entitled and self-absorbed. You expect honour from men while women are incapable of anything approaching that. Please be serious and stop painting a ridiculous idealistic image of womanhood. Men see through all this and are sick of it. Yes we wish it were true but it isn't. Finis.
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  94. Islam is right about women.
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  95. Not slaves. Kind-hearted, agreeable, pleasant companions. Such women are a rarity and men mourn their loss. The more I learn of female perspectives, the more I realise the much vaunted (by women) trope of their being kind-hearted, agreeable and compassionate is rubbish. Or rather, they are capable of that, to pets, children and those dependent upon them or that they see as lesser. They seem incapable of empathy for men and wish only to denigrate them. Of course, deprecating those you wish to exploit is feature of human psychology, which explains why women everywhere complain about men incessantly. Why even consider their viewpoint when men are so clearly unworthy? Better to just state that men are trash and leave them to their fate. That is the view-point of modern women.
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  96. "High value' is determined by the counter-party. Your definition of a 'high-value women' is what women think is high value (in men). But men do not think that the money that a woman brings makes her high value. Men do not think that a women being able to pleasure herself sexually makes her high value. Men do not think that a woman's 'independence' makes her high value. Men think that 'high value' in women corresponds to an agreeable, kind-hearted, supportive personality. This is extremely rare in modern women and men mourn the loss of these qualities. I am not disagreeing with your point about love being a two-way street. However, it is much easier to elicit love based on mutual positive personality traits than the somewhat transactional examples you gave. Modern women typically conflate the different valuations, thinking that their financial and career success will make them attractive to men. It is not repellant in itself, but often leads to overbearing and 'masculinized' behaviour in women which is deeply unattractive to men.
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  97.  @sandradesouza9940  Thank you for your detailed reply and appreciation of our views. You are correct of course in that women need to have that special feeling. However, (without deprecating women at all) could it be that the "zing' is a type of sexual chemistry? The "feefies", the 'tingle'? If it is not provision, protection/safety, stoicism/resilience, or other character traits? If so, it's Chadrone - the equivalent of male requirements for looks and hotness in women.
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  98.  @АртоВэнтьфорт  Reproduction is in marked decline. The traditional role of women has changed but that of men has not.
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  99. It depends on what country you are in. Australia?
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  100. Shaming as opposed to debating the point is a very feminine strategy, doubt you are a dude? If you are, maybe raised by a single mother, hence quite feminized in your thinking?
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  101. Common sense flew out the window in the 1970s, and was shot dead and buried this century.
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  102. A reaction to decades of feminist rhetoric blaming men for everything and saying they are bad. The denigration of masculinity is so pervasive that it is even difficult to acknowledge that women have agency in these matters and their actions are not always for the best. Men are sick and tired of all with misandry and when there is a rational discussion of women's behaviour they like to push back a bit to show how women contribute to social problems. Otherwise, how will women come to appreciate how their actions individually and collectively are perceived? Or do you think women don't have roughly equal levels of negativity? That they are somehow better. Or should men just shut up anyway and not be entitled to critique women?
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  103. Everyone misses the significance of what he says at the 6:45 timestamp. Think about it carefully, and what it means for the psychology of both the man and the woman.
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  104. And what is wrong with that? Many men would happily provide, protect and support an affectionate women who gave him emotional and physical love in her spare time, which could include time for her own job and interests. The women's end of the bargain is very rare.
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  105. He clearly implied it was the human supportive qualities that count, not the labour that can be outsourced to secretaries, cooks and housekeepers. Why do you wilfully misinterpret his intent?
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  106.  @michamichalak6200  So we are all robots and have no agency whatsoever in making choices. Everything we do is pre-programmed to the tiniest degree. Unprovable hypothesis, hence falls outside the scientific method by definition and becomes a metaphysical a priori postulate.
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  107.  @michamichalak6200  You have tried to explain why there may be an illusion of choice/free will, which I already understand. However, you have not answered the charge that such a view is completely outside the scientific method being an unprovable hypothesis. You could argue that given your view, free will is unprovable, as is the absence of free will. Hence, it boils down to metaphysics. In such a case, Occam's razor should apply, namely the simplest explanation is most likely to be correct. As free will fits within evolutionary biology as a means to maximise flexibility and adaptive responses, the common sense deduction is that we have free will because it enables us to avoid random environmental dangers and maximise resource acquisition. Even the lowest of animals adapt to changing environments.
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  108. He would get cancelled. This is a talk about that issue, only veiled. Substitute that for anorexia in his talk and you will have what you are seeking.
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  109. Useful in different ways. He wants to provide, protect and nurture through his actions, and wants her to be supportive, kind, empathic. She wants him to provide, protect and nurture through his actions, and also wants him to be supportive, kind, empathic. The question Orion is proposing, is: do modern women understand the need for their part in this?
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  110. If women have it worse it is because of their nature. Society supports women massively at the expense of men. This is obvious from the huge differentials in objective hardship wrought by women and society on men (male disposability). The only advantage that men have is their hardwiring which also comes at a cost, as it does for women. Objectively, women have it far better than men, but can't accept this fact as it goes against their innate drive to be victims. Men are much more inclined to accept responsibility for their fate. If you wish to dispute this we can discuss all the statistics which prove my point about male disposability.
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  111.  @doloresaquines1529  "Where, where, did I mention my looks!!" "What a pity all of you cannot see pics of me at 30!!!".
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  112.  @cosmictreason2242  Prideful, lacking self-reflection, and incapable of basic logic.
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  113. It depends on how you define 'useful'. I took it to mean kind, empathic, supportive and loyal. Not doing menial tasks that can be outsourced to commercial service providers.
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  114. No, the women divorce the men, not the other way around. 80% of divorces are initiated by women.
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  115. They will not and probably cannot rise to the occasion demanded of the breadwinner role. Men have always known that providing etc. involves responsibility and sacrifice. What you earn is hers, what she earns is hers also.
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  116.  @NolandaNolanda  High value men need to be seduced into commitment, not chased.
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  117. Decreasing day by day, month by month and year by year. As a whole, society is organised against reproduction. Hence the collapse in the birth-rate. What is your point from a societal perspective as discussed in this video?
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  118.  @beowulf_of_wall_st  I agree with much of this and your many other fine comments throughout this thread, but suspect the "don't mind him having women on the side" is a bit niche and not typical for most relationships. But each to their own, no judgement, just trying to go with the likely numbers overall. Cheers.
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  119. And the perception of gain is massively being re-evaluated by men, as conditions have changed and women no longer provide the value they used to, especially on the psychological front.
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  120. No, the video makes clear that it is not at all the case that women are infallible, quite the opposite, they are deluded because they are misaligned with fundamentals. The whole video describes how they are pricing themselves out. Also, women make the mistake of hypergamy based on assessment of men's relative value, not absolute value (is he in the top percentile rather than than what can he provide objectively).
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  121. He never mentioned a maid. That is your filter. I agree with the rest of your comment however.
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  122. The divorce statistics show men stay with their choices more, it is women who initiate divorce much more. Of course feminists will argue it is because the all the men are evil and abusers, but the reality is women are more fickle and transactional and will trade up and out, and are financially incentivised by the nature of the contract and the family courts.
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  123. Character and confidence can be developed and are of prime importance.
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  124. Which is happening less and less as women leave their traditional roles. Western societies, China, Brazil and many other countries have way way lower reproductive rates. So this 'loss' is disappearing. Also, as a loss it is offset by the gains a women wishes for in having kids. Men used to also benefit from this unpaid input from women but the cost to them is rising with divorce and loss of parental and reproductive rights. This all feeds into the cost/benefit analysis which men are very good at.
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  125.  @ah6439  I agree, but 'modernity' is rearing its head elsewhere, including India. We are going down the same path pretty much everywhere.
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  126.  @shyamalidasgupta671  Your 'middle-class' Indian women are already privileged because they can exploit the labour of the masses for just a few rupees. Either wealth increases throughout so the Indian poor can move away from the drudgery of serving your parasitical middle class, or the poor stay poor and human misery remains. What are you in favour of?
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  127. The 'settling' is only relative to their unrealistic fantasies. Objectively, most 'average' guys would be more than adequate for provision, protection etc. Of course, there has to be compatibility with other attributes not covered by this simplified but useful model.
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  128. But more deeply it is craving, not only 'desire', but craving for existence as an independent ens. The issue is the craving, not the 'existence'.
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  129. Divorce lawyers have their hands full with the 50% of marriages ending in divorce, 80% of which are filed by women. So who is doing the dumping? Of course, all women who divorce are only doing it because the men in their lives are evil cheating pigs. Those women are never dumping the man to trade up, 'find herself', go after some-one better etc. Divorce laws don't incentivise women at all, women are angelic beings without a trace of negativity and are always the victims even when dumping the man (most of divorces as per above).
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  130.  @ethanmiller5487  He gets the point well. Women are increasingly financially successful (or persuaded they should be), while miserable because they are failing at other things. It is you who has missed the whole point of the video and most of the comments.
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  131.  @lorrilewis2178  Sorry to hear of this example of a bad man. Let's hope not all men are like this. It would be interesting to hear his side of the story - just for balance mind you.
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  132. Evolution. It is rooted in biology, reflecting the different reproductive strategies of males and females.
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  133. Accept more realistic offers.
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  134.  @vinipcplayer  The new relationships are women "marrying" the State, the biggest daddy around with the deepest pockets, and the monopoly on force, in service of women. This leads to government following the directives and needs of women, and the feminisation of society. Risk and innovation are minimised and conformity and safety maximised. It is well underway and will lead to societal failure, as evidenced by all the historical antecedents that show feminist movements in all civilisations as the prelude to their collapse. Many scholars have laid this out for all to see.
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  135. So true.
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  136. 6:45 timestamp lays it all out. You need to think carefully about the amazing wisdom described in the 6:45 timestamp. She: "I am a virgin and have never given it away, and want to wait. But you drive me crazy and I'll kiss and hug you and whisper sweet nothings all day long. Let me look deeply into your eyes you amazing man". He: "Wow, she's a virgin? But she feels like that about me? I bet she will be a cracker when we finally get to it. How can I get that? Maybe she is the virgin waifu unicorn of legend. I need to wife her up".
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  137. Gross generalisation and probably not true. Women don't ask for many reasons, one being fear of rejection. Many men do not mind being asked but probably will also reject at around the same frequency as women, depending upon what is on offer.
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  138.  @AD-hh6dd  Thanks for the clarification, but I will still disagree about the primary motivation. You think it is what women are taught, I think we all overcome much of what we are taught that is incorrect, after all we are not robots and learn through experience, but more importantly it is because both women and men fear rejection but men must learn to deal with it and it can build character, whereas women fear it and do not know how to handle it, lacking experience. Chicken and egg. But each to their own view, thanks.
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  139. High value encompasses moral qualities. The women has to judge character and be selective. Her actions will likely prevent him from becoming bored. It's really quite simple.
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  140.  @Letsplay222  No. Saying there are no high quality men who will stay committed is a sexist slur against men. Of course there are high quality men who have access to more than the usual amount of women but contrary to your assertion this does not mean they will treat all women like trash. Women are filing 80% of the divorces, not men. And no, this is not because all the men who get divorced are evil and deserve it. There are levels of high value men: Tier 1: HVM who has status, wealth.and looks. Tier 2: HVM who has status, wealth, looks and good character. Tier 3: HVM who has all the above and wishes to wife up the best woman available to him. Along comes a woman who knows what she is doing, adds value to his life, makes herself supportive and looks like she will satisfy him. Bingo.
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  141.  @Letsplay222  So, you are trying to shame me directly or indirectly, which is a typically female response to threat or lack of understanding/insight. What does it matter what my personal qualities are if the thoughts are presented as logical propositions? Guess what, I can present a concept without it being some emotional projection of my own, try it yourself some day, so I was speaking abstractly although I understand whereof I speak. I am a high value man in most ways: earn a shit-ton of money; have high social status; married to the same woman for 33 years; three adult children; good-looking. Had good relationships in younger years, prior to choosing my wonderful wife. However I admit I am under 6 feet tall, not that it ever mattered the slightest.
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  142. Socialism massive increases the problem as only one sector of society provides the value and the rest absorb it to the loss of the productive. There is no benefit to being productive as your autonomy is taken away. Everyone becomes a parasite and the State becomes coercive. That is clear from history. All life, from amoeba to humans, wish to minimise work expended and maximise resources acquired. When the system encourages both, the society eventually fails, or goes totalitarian.
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  143. As women initiate 80% of divorces, 90% if she has a college degree, and women are overwhelmingly awarded prime custody and significant assets, it is clear that your arguments refer to the behaviour of women seeking resources and children from men and not the other way around.
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  144.  @aferg76  Where can I find a unicorn?
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  145. Indeed. The men may be objectively far more valuable than the women, but the women will still want the best. It was ever thus and will not change.
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  146.  @SmileyEmoji42  I think you misunderstand me. I agree that it is the subjective value scale of women that is the cause of their problems. By 'objective' in relation to men, I should have clarified, I meant in being able to deliver their end of the bargain in terms of social value. Men still provide the bulk of work that keeps society running. Of course this is being undermined by massive social forces such as those under discussion, and others, so the story is not simple.
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  147. Work, work, work - for the man! That's the chain gang. You go girl!
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  148. Much more on the psychological side of things - a woman's high price tag = can't stop nagging, manipulating, demanding, being dissatisfied, won't accept responsibility, be realistic, appreciate what is done etc. That is not to say that contributions can't be negotiated in good faith. And of course there are men who don't provide the value they should, as women will attest. Nonetheless, men are increasingly coming to the view that "the juice is not worth the squeeze".
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  149.  @cosmictreason2242  No but most do because it's a numbers game and social commentary rightly addresses the norms not the exceptions.
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  150. No, it is because the divorce courts are rewarding women for leaving. That is a major reason why men do not wish to get married. Men calculate the odds and they are highly unfavourable. Even when 'value' is adjudicated properly, men end up the losers, almost always. Divorce increases suicide risk in men 800%. Think about that. Why? No doubt feminists would argue that is because men are trashy scum at all times and the loss of their partners leaves them floundering and unable to cope because the perfect women are the only things providing any value to men. Men sort of think that the system is unfair and they are considered disposable by society. So they are checking out.
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  151. All societies, including patriarchy (rule by 'fathers)', are gynocentric (centred around the needs of women). They cannot outperform men in an even playing field without massive hidden and overt support.
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  152. Within the confines of heterosexual monogamy, yes. Lesbianism, polygamy and welfare dependency are other options.
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  153. Congratulations on your wisdom and heart. I hope you can reach other women. It seems an uphill struggle.
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  154. As more than 50% of marriages end in divorce, the divorce is initiated 80% of the time by the woman, there is usually a significant transfer of assets from the man to the woman, and divorce increases risk of suicide in men by 800% percent, the man is risking his freedom from huge negative consequences that are statistically MORE likely to occur than not.
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  155.  @sweetifer  Typically, not always, the man brings more 'stuff' into the relationship. That is part of female hypergamy. Women want men that are successful and wealthy. The relationship transaction means he brings 'stuff' and she is meant to bring support and human qualities. These are unenforcable aspects of the 'contract', so when she leaves, she leaves with more 'stuff' than she brought and her contribution is not measured (it is unmeasurable). This works to her benefit, not his. To say that women in general leave because men act like it is his 'stuff' and never through any fault of her own is laughable.
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  156.  @sweetifer  Learn the difference between particular examples and generalities. I do not claim to know the minds of any specific woman, such as yourself. However it is possible to study the behaviour of people in general and learn of their motives and actions. Are you saying no-one is capable social science? Can psychologists make deduction about the behaviour of people in general? Is any study of humanity valid? My comment specifically went to generalities, I used the very word, and you seem to be talking about one case, maybe your own. This is solipsism and wooly thinking all presented smugly.
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  157. The solipsism is staggering. Are you saying that looking to be cared for by others in various ways that complement one's strengths and weaknesses is not something common to all of humanity, men and women? That women are not equally looking for daddy? With all their hypergamy, dual mating strategies, need for positive masculinity etc. etc.? Why do you disparage men for looking for a nurturing femininity while overlooking women's search for the equivalent?
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  158.  @-glitch-8195  This is rubbish and shows a complete lack of understanding.
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  159.  @m35926  If you were to drop one standard to widen your potential pool, I would suggest the first. Although you may not want a high body count, expecting a virgin is not realistic. If she has the other qualities and is loyal (difficult to assess) then it might work. The chances/odds are not good.
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  160. Yes, spiritual mind here. They way through ascending the chakras is to encompass the lower and transcending their grip on you. Enlightened beings still have physiology, sexual energy, will and regulate them appropriately (i.e. not destroying or denying them). The way up is through. You transform the energy. Sexual energy can be used to inform the heart leading to compassion, altruism etc., and sexual energy is one main path to even higher transcendental state. Sublimation can include sexual union without neurotic grasping, neediness, lust etc.
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  161. There is huge diversity in the population. Some people are much more aware, and some less, of their unconscious. In other words, there are huge depths to the unconscious and some people can bring much more up to consciousness, by this process converting the contents from one state to the other. The distinction in regards the specific content therefore varies hugely.
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  162.  @greatnesspersonified9676  Polygamy incoming...
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  163.  @yoohoo952  Yes, all men are selfish and evil. Why would a high value man value something that adds to his life? Isn't he more likely to exploit it or take it for granted? Isn't it selfishness that makes him high value? Oh wait, you are talking about players and bad boys? Are you mistaking selfish bad boys with good men? Is it your perception that is at fault?
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  164.  @yoohoo952  Where does he ask for tension and blame? He is advising women on how to show their value to a man so that he appreciates her. Obviously it must be reciprocal. That makes a comfortable relationship. Why are you so negative about sensible healthy advice towards creating a comfortable relationship?
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  165.  @AmaraTurner-vk7vw  No, it will not make a man think you are desperate or kill their excitement, provided you have something of value to offer. Why do you want to make it hard for a man you want?
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  166.  @AmaraTurner-vk7vw  "what I think is of ‘value’ that I’m offering men, is in fact not what men ‘value’ at all". Exactly correct. The rest of your reply has serious misconceptions. A woman having intelligence is not a turn off nor is it threatening to men. They are not intimidated. Several things are going on here: other than looks, men value women for their femininity, sweetness, kindness, good-hearted-ness, character etc. that will enrich their lives and make the women pleasant and agreeable and supportive and loving and good partners and good mothers etc. Her intellect, her achievements and earning potential etc. are nice add-ons but not the main game. Her social status (Ivy League etc.) is meaningless, worthless to a man. Women typically think "I want a high status, secure man who can provide and protect --- therefore, I will become that too because surely that is what a man will want in me?" No, no, no. I'll say it again - No. The problem is that in becoming high status and competing in the workforce, women have become not only mannish, but the worst of 'mannishness': combative, argumentative, hostile, disagreeable, inflated sense of self-worth etc. They typically are incapable of extending the best of what they thus acquire to benefit their partners. Of necessity, they must compete in the workplace and do not know how to relax and be feminine outside it. Good men who compete all their lives in the workforce may be susceptible to carry-over at home but are generally better at putting it aside. Men want someone to complement them, not be them. They want what they do not have, namely femininity. Femininity is not weakness, despite what the feminist claim. Femininity can be immensely strong, through nobility of character. If a man primarily seeks money and status in a woman he is not much of a man. If a man depends upon a woman to provide these qualities, do women want him? This is not to say that both incomes cannot go towards the household budget. Men are not intimidated by a woman's 'success' (defined on masculine terms). They are repulsed by what goes with it all too often: misaligned masculine energy that women do not know how to wield. Sure, be intelligent, capable and a 'success': and be agreeable, kind, supportive, open-hearted. It's really not that different to men. A woman wants a successful man who is kind, supportive and good-hearted. Character overcomes deficiencies in looks. The best qualities of character in men and women overlap but are expressed in different styles. Both should have integrity, class, temperance, good-heartedness, compassion, ethics etc. Modern women are particularly bad at integrating the demands of modernity with empowered femininity. Feminism has taught them a warped version which they lack the character to adjust appropriately. Feminism deprecates femininity claiming it is the result of societal gender constructs that benefit men. Feminism deprecates masculinity claiming it is a patriarchal gendered construct, toxic and responsible for all evil in the world. It is a terrible doctrine which disempowers both sexes and leads to regrettably feminized weak men and masculine women who are quite incapable of using that energy appropriately.
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  167. Stolen from? When women extort the money from men in divorce and there is always, everywhere, in all societies, a net transfer of wealth from men to women, from relationships through to taxation. Delusion reigns supreme with you madam.
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  168.  @davidw.5185  One book will be written on the basis of facts, data and logical deductions, the other written on feelings and fantasy. Or will be if sales are the objective.
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  169.  @limitisillusion7  The future will be like this: governments, corporations and related powerful social institutions will draw all wealth to themselves, comprised of a very small fraction of men. VVomen will want to have access to those men. Polygamy will rise, and vvomen will demand it. Once they have made their picks of the best vvomen, elites will control male access to the remaining vvomen to ensure compliance to the regime. You will have elites with harems, a circle of male enforcers given the leftovers, and serfs. The serfs will be encouraged to go gay, transgender etc. and will lead short brutal lives. The overthrow of monogamous patriarchy by feminism in time will lead to the establishment of an Orvvellian dystopia.
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  170. You have set very limited goals. Listen to the video again. Orion as talking not only about family, relationships, love, but also something that is called different names in the various wisdom traditions: Attainment of Buddhahood Union with the Godhead The ATMAN, or "Self' The Oversoul etc. etc. These are the highest goals one can conceive. Embracing these puts all mundane objectives into perspective, and makes their attainment much easier. Check out the AQAL chart (Google it) to work out where you are and what is the next concrete step.
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  171. Women can offer relationships to men but only if they do the work and keep their end of the bargain. The reason men are walking away is because women do not offer relationship value. With divorce rates so high and women incentivised down that route to divest men of the fruits of their input, men are avoiding that one-sided contract.
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  172.  @BasementBerean  Thanks. Aside from divorce laws, massive government intervention supports women regardless of their inputs and rewards bad behaviour (single mothers, low productivity, useless degrees, dependency on the State etc.). That is why governments bribe voters, especially women. That is why feminism is government policy.
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  173. Hypergamy is off the charts in China due to their anomalous sex ratio with far more men than women.
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  174.  @jloflo958  You just accepted his point about hypergamy. How can you argue his simple point is wrong and accept it in the same post? "women will still all want the top 10% regardless of how much upgrading goes on". Essence of hypergamy. The pint is, if all men upgrade, women will want and compete for the top 10%.
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  175.  @jloflo958  Don't try to shame me you sound silly. I've had plenty of great girlfriends and since finding her have been married to the same woman for 33 years, first marriage each no divorces, and we have three adult kids. I make heaps of money, good status in society, and have plenty of friends of both sexes and different genders. My points don't spring from some deficit in my personal life, they point out logical fallacies such as in your post. But that's fine, you resort to trying to shame me because you can't deny I've skewered you: pcap posits hypergamy, you deny the validity of his post, then accept hypergamy. Maybe your thinking is woolly and you are not used to discussing things with highly educated people who understand and demand logical consistency. Good day to you madam.
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  176. If getting a wife gets authentic, intimate relationships, why do more than 50% of marriages end in divorce, with 80% of divorces initiated by women, leading to a 800% increase in risk of suicide among divorced men?
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  177. Reliance on the State is already well advanced and will increase as you describe, associated with increased State power and authoritarianism. It is a form of collapse, according to the values we currently hold, with poverty and misery at the lower and and increased wealth and power among the plutocrats. There are many scenarios and no-one can foretell the future except in broad outline. The reliance on the big Daddy corporate/State hybrid is well underway. The destruction of the family as the main non-State social mechanism has been planned for decades and strongly enabled by feminism and other ideologies.
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  178. You have very low expectations for women. Which is the root of the problem. Funnily enough, 70 years ago women had much higher expectations of themselves and were much more supportive. Of course, feminism told women they were miserable and enslaved, so they could go out and work for capital instead. Now women have few expectations for themselves and while continuing to demand good men that are traditional.
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  179. Yes, but most modern relationships fail. You are describing an ideal, not the reality.
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  180. When the divorce happens (50% probability) your assets will be hers. Your experience of the intangible benefits can change with no recourse. It happens all the time.
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  181. Lowering the price in market terms means accepting offers that are of less value than you were previously asking, based mainly on your asking too much. If a vendor tries to sell apples at a high price, they have to offer apples at a lower price if no-one buys. Similarly, if a women demands a man meet standards that are not realistic, and refuses the offers of men she perceives to be of lower value, then she has the choice to continue in her ways and not enter into an exchange, or realise what she is offering has lower value than she thinks, and accept offers that were previously repugnant to her. i.e. become more realistic about the value of what she offers and what she can expect in exchange.
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  182. This is about going through sex to get love. Love is built through these types of reciprocities.
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  183.  @cosmictreason2242  I agree he didn't say it. But it is true. It is up to the individual to build on the foundations what they want in a relationship. He is advising women how to beat out the competition for the best guy she can. Then you can build using sex, trust, communication, shared values etc. There is no point in his discussing all that which should be understood or be the content of another video.
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  184. ​ @psychacks  In general, women are not capable of genuine intellectual conversations as compared to men. They tend to the vapid, lack nuance, overly emotional, are solipsistic and do not understand the value and limits of particulars vs. generalisations.
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  185. #1 incoming
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  186. Our AI descendants will see humans as superfluous to the running of a well-ordered society and eliminate us.
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  187.  @seraphina2293  The adage "Men are pigs and only want one thing" is rubbish whoever says it, you, your family or other 'advisors'. I would tell them it's not true. Many men want to marry or at least form long-term relationships and support their spouses. Many men sacrifice for their families. Anyone who asserts this is a misanthrope or misandrist and does not deserve our respect. Why should we exempt feminists from this censure?
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  188. For time immemorial, relationships for both men and women were based on a high degree of unselfishness and altruism as well as benefit. It always flowed both ways. Now, everyone (including you) see it as a zero sum game. That is why you are a loser. If you think all men are evil pigs you will be living in a hellish farmyard. Take responsibility for your own perceptions and start by going against your own destructive projections.
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  189. Indeed it is long extinguished and men know they cannot rely upon modern women to provide these things. So what is your point other than singing an elegy for times past that feminism along with the rest of modernity helped to destroy?
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  190.  @immanuelcan3310  Your claim is quite misguided because contrary to your beliefs Buddhism is not nihilistic in regards suffering or anything else. You have a dualistic view. The 'comparison' is by way of a metaphor, with the appreciation by Buddhists that metaphors are inexact. The Buddhist ideal is not 'extinction' or a mere end to suffering. It is to end the suffering of all sentient beings by all achieving a state of definite bliss - enlightenment. Please look into it a bit more. Thank you.
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  191.  @immanuelcan3310  Buddhists explicitly and repeatedly deprecate nihilism as being a dangerous falsity. And this is not because they fail to understand it, indeed they understand nihilism much better than almost everyone and warn against it, and explicitly agree it is not the objective, indeed is a huge obstacle to the objective. The bliss of enlightenment is not the bliss of non-being. Non-being is an extreme position that does not capture the truth of the "Middle Way". What is annihilated correctly is your wrong view of the world, not the world as it exists. It annihilates your false view of yourself, but what remains is the continuum of an enlightened being that works effortlessly and unceasingly for the benefit of all beings. The ultimate mind cannot be destroyed as it is outside of time and space and continues in bliss and omniscience as a continuum. The extinction of nirvana is not 'non-being' or nothingness, it is the extinction of propulsive karma and delusions. The Buddha Nature (Tathagata-garhba) is the ground state of existence and is beyond such shallow conceptions.
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  192. The problem is that kind of love is actually not really available from modern women. Modern women do NOT bring that to the table. I'm not sure but I suspect men are still able to love in that way somewhat more than modern women, but of course this view could be contested and is fertile ground for a war of words between the sexes in this comments section.
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  193. Depending upon the jurisdiction, common-law erodes the distinction.
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  194. Exactly right but I think climate change is driven by stellar flux and not anthropogenic, it's being presented as a boogeyman to increase government and corporate control. This is a small disagreement so thank you for your post.
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  195.  @alexisc7565  The reason he desires "HER' is because he knows she is not a self-centred user who will abandon him at the first opportunity.
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  196. Patriarchy is a hierarchy of competence, not raw power, and is sustained by female hypergamy.
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  197. "Most women I know earn more than their husbands...". Not true for society as a whole. What is the gender pay gap? Why do women rank men according to money among other criteria? Why do women often divorce their husbands when their own earning power increases above the man's?
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  198. So it is wrong to provide social commentary or advice to others who may be confused? Maybe people who have insight and understanding or perspectives on issues should not talk to anybody about anything.
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  199. Because the vast majority of women do not think like you.
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  200. Simply a variation on Option 5. And one that will bring a lot of suffering, particularly to the kids, But who cares about them, right?
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  201.  @lari5891  I understand your viewpoint, children do not need fathers. Got it. As you said, many women are fine without a partner. They just need support and resources provided by.....? The State? Great. What use are fathers? Coming back with trite admonishments to ignore the mountain of evidence around single motherhood. These are NOT about resources they are about the value fathers bring into the lives of children which your feminist indoctrination rejects. You are inhuman and play into the hands of those who wish to degrade our humanity. Sickening.
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  202.  @ShadowbannedAccount  Self-absorbed to the max and can't see it. Who cares about what kids need? Ignore the incontrovertible evidence and make up garbage on the spot. And they accuse men of being toxic. Pure projection. What a moral failure.
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  203.  @SmoothCode  Lari took a swipe and failed miserably. She revealed her own inhumanity for all to see. She can't make her toxicity any clearer. What a bitter loser.
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  204.  @lari5891  I am a life-long scientist and have no idea what you are referring to as I am not a mind-reader. Did some-one appoint you as a moderator to this discussion? If not you, then who? What is the role of the moderator here? Please explain your non-sequitur. It is just more word salad from a wooly thinker.
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  205.  @lari5891  I am indeed a life-long research scientist. I asked you to clarify your meaning as it was not clear from your word salad text and you have now complied. As opposed to a moderator who regulates debate, you now reveal you are introducing for the first time concepts about statistics and moderators as statistical variables (also known as modifiers). So please further explain what moderators are you introducing ad hoc, of what statistical analyses?
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  206.  @lari5891  Stop avoiding the multiple reasonable questions I have put to you. You are dealing with a real scientist and you cannot reply reasonably, I asked for your clarification since the word moderator has more than one meaning depending on the context that you failed to supply until I pushed you, so just quit playing games, everyone can see through your BS. You claim a PhD in psychology, you are not telling the truth and it's clear. Bye.
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  207.  @EC-yl7xk  He should advise women that cats and boxed wine are adequate compensation for being a loser.
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  208. 6:45 in the video. She is more committed sexually than she has ever been in the past. She can communicate this to let him know she will be amazing going forwards.
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  209. Exactly. But the radicals and authoritarians will not act to restrict women's hypergamy, they will act to curtail freedom and prosperity for everyone, with the support of women who will look to the State for support. Big Daddy government will act to support women while continuing to extract value from men. Already underway. Who pays the most taxes, and who are the beneficiaries?
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  210. Which is why women, despite demanding equality, complain there are no good men. i.e. not enough wealth transfer from men to women through relationships, divorce and taxation.
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  211. Rubbish. Hypergamy in Western women is proven from many lines of evidence. You are simply wrong.
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  212. That is not what he said. It is not her money, he has enough of that already. Please pay attention to the video.
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  213.  @hereforthememes2351  Is English not your first language? Because sorry you are not clear as to what you are saying. Not trying to be rude....
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  214. I agree with your synopsis as to the origins of hypergamy being rooted in reproductive necessity etc. Nonetheless, modern society tends to deprecate such considerations. We can either deny biology or embrace it. A vast stream of Western intellectual thought seeks to deny it. This empowers social engineers of all types. Modernity has gone badly wrong due to this power impulse. One of the problems today is that denial of the existence of hypergamy, it's origins and purpose, has gone so far that the counterbalancing considerations (that Dr. Talaban mentions) cannot be considered either. The decline of marriage and the family ensues.
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  215.  @cosmictreason2242  Pride is definitely in the mix. To justify wanting 'up' they must convince themselves they are priceless just as they are. Delulu.
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  216. And be trustworthy yourselves. That is the hard part for modern women.
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  217. Where does he discuss straying? Where does he deny effort on both sides?
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  218.  @salivadriven  If that is a fairy tale, then what basis is there for long-term relationships? To what end? BTW, the evidence suggests men are giving up much more than women - not surprising in that the exchange of value has shifted markedly away from them.
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  219.  @salivadriven  I have been married for 33 years to the same woman and we have adult kids of both sexes who also wish to marry. My interest in the matter concerns my kids. I am not intimidated by my wife, nor do we view each other as unequal in dignity. Do not try to shame me personally as it is not a valid logical position and reveals your inferior intellect. Your query about equal status should be directed towards most women who wish to marry up. The willingness of men to marry down the social hierarchy is to be commended and is required for female hypergamy. You are not addressing female hypergamy at all, because it inconveniences your world-view, despite the massive evidence for this phenomenon. You say it is outdated but female hypergamy is on over-drive in the modern world. What has changed is that people are now talking about it, whereas previously the denial of this reality was widespread.
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  220. Well, either he is low value or he defines success in ways other than you do. Perhaps he does not want to make money. Is he supportive in other ways? Can you accept this? Or is he dross? You decide.
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  221. Love, if it happens at all, only comes after the 'screening' or selection process, i.e. after attraction and judgement. This is the winnowing out of potential mates. The problem is the strategies are maladaptive to changing circumstances, especially among women. This is one main point of the video.
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  222. Leftists constant victimhood complex is way more prevalent and obvious.
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  223.  @NJGuy1973  That system is matriarchy and that is why matriarchy is inevitably a short-lived failure.
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  224.  @Freya3896  Easier for men to go overseas. Much more rewarding on every level personal, economic, and spiritual. The dominant career women will also benefit as their impediments will have willingly vacated the stage, leaving them to run the West however they want. Why, they can fight the coming brutal wars themselves.
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  225. The other party has to interpret what you mean by that phrase, unless you are absolutely explicit. And, you are old fashioned, meaning that now most women intend something quite different and men learn accordingly.
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  226. Statistically these are increasingly marginalised by the negative changes underway. There will always be some healthy individuals.
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  227. This is the simplified version. There are deeper layers. The comments touch on some.
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  228. Are the divorce rates on the increase in Europe as women make more than their husbands ?
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  229.  @thatjeff7550  Avoiding the question. The role of a man clearly is to protect, provide, temper her craziness and take on certain responsibilities and lead in areas of worldly dynamics where he might have an advantage, and give due consideration and respect to her needs. You still have not answered the question.
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  230. Women no longer wish to bear children.
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  231.  @Normy0000  Look at fertility rates around the world outside of Africa.
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  232.  @sbarullasbonderi9577  No substance, just an assertion. Where is the content? At least write and think like a man if you want to be taken as one.
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  233.  @judithojiaka5346  Why does 'being useful' not appeal to psychopaths and narcissists? These are about 1-2% of the general population, but can be a larger proportion of 'highly successful' men who have used dark triad traits to get to the top. However, they are also very high in criminals and prisoners. Women love such men due to their own deficiencies in judgement and character.
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  234.  @andersnielsen6044  Women are massively incentivised by the divorce courts and many many lawyers attest to this. You are deluded.
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  235. Then he is NOT high value.
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  236. Polygamy is a female choice as much as that of a high value male. That is why it was normal in many societies. Our notions of monogamy are not typical historically. Monogamy is far better for society as it harnesses the energy of both men and women into a socially constructive activity, the family unit. Feminism was designed in large part to undo monogamy and the family and is succeeding.
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  237. ​ @hermask815  As we are on YouTube you can search for and watch the following women who speak from various diverse Red Pill perspectives: Karen Straughan (girlwriteswhat, one of the earliest, best and most penetrating); Suzanne Venker (more trad-con) Pearly Things Courtney Ryan Blonde in the Belly of the Beast Bettina Arndt The Happy Wife School (trad-con) Christine Grace Smith Jedediah Bila Sydney Watson Brittany Sellner (trad-con) The Dadvocate Please note that you asked for straight women, Karen Straughan, in my opinion the best of the lot is bisexual but her orientation does not appear relevant to her views. I do not know the orientation of all of the others though most appear to be straight.
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  238.  @stephanieherman2861  In what sense do options for relationships exist only once? People buy buy only one Roll-Royce car in their lives but they shop around for the best deal and compare to Bentleys and Mercs before making their choice. To say a market place does not exist for one mate is to argue that there do not exist choices about that mate. Also, an auction is still a market. The vendor does not have to sell until their price point is reached and no-one forces the bidder to make an offer. An auction is a very clear market. In securing a partner or spouse, both parties evaluate the deal against other options. i.e. a market. One may not like the transactional implications but that does not invalidate the model.
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  239. And that is why men are no longer hiring to use your analogy.
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  240. Watch the 6:45 timestamp.
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  241.  @Cuticatie  It is doubtful nowadays that women even love men at all. They say they do, and think that they should, and never admit that they don't, but maybe they just can't. Possibly, the ideas of what love is differs across the sexes. After all, other cultures recognise many different types of love which we all subsume under the one word 'love'. It would be interesting to do a well-powered survey and analysis of what emotions are accompanied by the identification of 'love' in modern men and women.
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  242. The West is imploding as we speak and in 20 years time will be unrecognisable, all the middle management jobs will disappear along with most wealth. Do you really think things will continue on the same trajectory? Hard, hard times are coming and women will demand men protect them from the consequences of leftism, feminism and modernity (all the while demanding leftist, feminist and post-modern solutions to insoluble problems)..
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  243. Women are NOT emotionally supportive to men. They like to think they are, they believe it, they tell themselves and their friends that is the way they are, but they do not ask men if it is true. Men know if is pretty much a fiction, a fairy-tale that fits the female narrative. Modern women are increasingly much more of an emotional burden than an asset and men are waking up to this fast. Women are compassionate to kittens, puppies and children but not men. It is difficult for women to have empathy for men as they need to exploit them, hence the society-wide phenomenon of denigrating men led by women. You may be an exception and of course there are many but that is the way of the world.
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  244. The number of foreign men marrying Western women is way, way lower than Western men going for foreign brides.
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  245. It's a model and cannot in the time provided address the important issues you raise, but is still useful as a way to think in generalisations. Modernity is transactional so 'market-value' has a use as a heuristic device. Of course at the individual level multiple variables come into play. The lack of psychological development is all too true. But it belongs to another domain of analysis.
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  246.  @jara9385  Men have always had harder lives as measured by objective standards such a life-span, health and leaving progeny. Your indifference to this objective truth is just further evidence of the disposability of males in the minds of women, which continues to this day.
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  247.  @lari5891  Most couples break up so fail at what you are suggesting? The majority of long-term relationships fail. Hell, 50% of marriages (the most formally committed of relationships) fail. Of the marriages that do not end in divorce, many are unhappy. It is absolutely objectively the case that most 'couples' do NOT develop value together. So please go with evidence, data, statistics etc. rather than waffling about ideals.
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  248.  @lari5891  I doubt you have a PhD in psychology because your writings are full of spelling and grammatical errors and you make illogical inferences and extrapolations that are not supported by data. No PhD would argue the way you do based on wrong data, incorrect inference and gross errors. You said "most couples develop value together". I pointed out that most LTRs fail, so it cannot be said that most 'couples' develop value together, taking LTRs as the designated example of 'couples'. Perhaps they develop some value in the short-term but as they fail, the value is questionable. I then took marriage as the pinnacle of 'couples', insofar as marriage represents the most formal and socially endorsed 'coupling' available. As 50% of these also fail, your assertion that 'most couples develop value together' must be wrong. LTRs plus marriage ending in break-up or divorce = most couples do NOT develop value together. You ask what does divorce have to do with that? Well, if a couple breaks up or divorces, then by definition the relationship has failed, therefore you cannot assert that most couples build value. Clearly, most do not. Most couples fail at building value. The divorce rates rise significantly the more the woman is educated. If a woman has a Batchelor's degree from college, she will be the one to initiate divorce in 90% of cases. You are dead wrong in asserting the divorce rate is 30% among the educated. The doctor is trying to speak to women about their relationship strategies. It is an uphill tasks because many women (like you) are incapable of drawing correct conclusions from data and concepts, instead you react emotionally because you don't like the facts. Admit it, you don't have a PhD in psychology. If you do, you got it from the university of delusion.
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  249. Women don't comment, especially when their pride is hurt, and when they do the intellectual level is very low.
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  250. As we are talking about broad social phenomena here, is it your thesis that the majority of heterosexual relationships are predicated on domestic abuse? If so, what is your position on psychological abuse vs. physical abuse, and what is the distribution of perpetrators vs. victims across the genders? Does resource exploitation without providing equivalent value in return constitute abuse and who does it? Are relationships a form of value exchange and has the value changed recently? If so, where has the change come from? Are we seeing a phenomenon under discussion here that in general men now perceive much less value in relationships and are addressing it by not participating? Do they have the right to do so?
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  251. Thus te implication and reality is that the expectation of society and women that men approach first puts men in a weaker position. This is what women want and your point makes your post-hoc justification clear. Keep it up, and men will not bother approaching because the power relationship becomes skewed, by your own admission.
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  252. In general, men offer marriage, and have to be persuaded the benefits. This is increasingly not the case.
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  253. Hypergamy is off the scale in China where selective female infanticide has resulted in a hugely biased sex ratio with fewer women than men. Their reproductive rates have cratered.
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  254.  @alexisc7565  Oh no, relationships are doomed because there is uncertainty in life. Let the human race go extinct!How did our ancestors ever navigate the complexities of interpersonal dynamics? An impossible task. Best to give up.
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  255. Hypergamy refers specifically to social status, not simply wanting the best. It is derived from anthropology. The desire by men for youth/fertility and other positive feminine attributes is well, well understood, however the corresponding hypergamy of females has been overlooked for decades. That is why it is now receiving more attention, as a corrective to the lop-sided views of feminism and gynocentrism. I would point out that female hypergamy is every bit as biologically based as the male equivalent, it goes to resource provisioning and protection from pre-caveman days. If women are to bear children, they need the help and support of the fittest males. Women also massively select on genetics as do men. There are countless studies proving this. One consequence is that women have a 'dual-mating' strategy that men do not, wherein they get pregnant to the most dominant males and get the more committed faithful type to help raise the ensuing progeny. Before you dismiss this, remember that non-paternity is huge and ever present, proven by DNA testing.
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  256.  @ericlarousse1149  In other words, you accept that women's goal is the resource exploitation of men. With 'equality', should that change?
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