Comments by "Logan Franklin" (@hello7032) on "Is Taylor Swift a Bad Person?" video.

She might not be an outright bad person, but she’s also not a significantly good enough person. And as a massively wealthy person with a huge platform who is also white and comes from a wealthy background, she is not doing nearly enough. She is playing it safe while working to create this image of someone who cares deeply when she just doesn’t. And by creating this parasocial relationship with her fans, she escapes accountability.
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They’ve become more obsessed with the “experience” of being there and have developed an extreme parasocial attachment to the person(which is a cultivated image) rather than the product. The person has become the product.
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@Just_a_turtle_chad there’s nothing wrong with making surface level music that people can just feel safe jamming to. Only problem is that her and her fans act like it’s some revolutionary type of music when it’s on the same level as like….Imagine Dragons.
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@veenoir1991 So much of her music just sounds like astrology white people type music. But I can respect this opinion lol
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@JStack Literally not what I’m implying. What I’m stating is that she’s historically insignificant outside of capitalistic categories. As far as capitalism and consumerism goes, she’s doing fantastic, kudos to her success. But she’s no hero, no warrior for good, no activist, her mark left so far is purely financial based. She’s barely even culturally significant since her whole thing is basic rich white lady that just finds herself into whatever new trend is relevant(so she can use it for marketing) hence her whole set of different “Eras”. Which, fair play, brilliant PR and marketing. But let’s not act like she’s anything more than that. The worshipping is absolutely insane.
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@michaelsotomayor5001 she did two things that were just “hey this obviously bad person is bad!” And that was it. I’m glad she took it to her studio, sweet. But she’s not a hero, that was for her. If it was truly a righteous crusade she wouldn’t have stopped.
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@janvipatel13 Excellent rebuttal. I’m sure Taylor will send you a postcard and then you can pay $200 for a cottage core sweater that some kid in Bangladesh on the verge of starvation made just so you can look like an album cover while you complain about reckless consumerism and climate change.
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@janvipatel13 Like how are y’all the same types of people to think “rich people should do more! White people should do more! Use your privilege!” And then look at Taylor Swift and go “no not you”. You probably believe micro aggressions are bad and then completely ignored how in the shake it off video she had all her angelic innocent white dancers all dressed in white and doing their lil cute innocent dances and then all the black/non white dancers dressed in all black and dancing in a different way.
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THIS. Well put.
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And the most ineffective. They crumble at a simple critique of her.
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See but why aren’t you mad about it? You highlight the bad part but then immediately pivot to “others are worse!” Those should be isolated grievances. Yes others are worse, but what she does/doesn’t do is still bad. Both things can exist at the same time, otherwise we’ll always be left grasping for scraps.
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@nadaAhmed-nz7ye you thinking she’s some huge culturally significant person is also just an opinion. She doesn’t need to be a hero but she gets praised like she is. THATS THE PROBLEM. She’s not. And did you even read my other comment or will all you do is deflect any criticisms of her because you’ve cultivated so much of your personality and hobbies around her? You know you swifties have developed a cult of personality around her to the point that you speak for her. It’s insane.
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@skullpixiedust you’ve already made your mind up.
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So do y’all hate billionaires and capitalism and white privilege or do you love it so long as it’s someone you support?
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@kylasbitch How is she not playing it safe are you kidding me? And you can’t go “she just does what everyone else does” as a way to dismiss that criticism. She can’t be both a pioneer and activist and also conform to toxic industry/capitalist standards.
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@dessieangel1021 literally your whole rebuttal straw man hypotheticals and assumptions. Because that’s all you have. There’s nothing concrete. We’re supposed to scrutinize and punch up. But y’all found your easy to support and ultimately person who you want to be-vapid conventionally attractive rich white woman who is praised and adored for doing the bare minimum so she doesn’t actually have to put in any actionable effort. Because none of you want to put any actionable effort into bettering the world, you just want the Medal and praise that comes with it.
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@nadaAhmed-nz7ye It’s Not a bad thing. But it’s just a thing that does not erase everything else. Same goes for Beyoncé. I thought we all agreed that that level of insane wealth and privilege associated(add in the white privilege for Taylor Swift) is inherently unethical. But what we ignore that because…..celebrity? Jesus Christ.
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@janvipatel13 it’s fun how quickly y’all turn into centrists and right wing logic when your interests are under scrutiny
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It’s the astrology of music. Basic surface level type lyrics but sung by a conventionally attractive tall white woman nepo baby.
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@michaelsotomayor5001 Trolling? Do you just pluck words you’ve heard on the internet? Valid and based criticisms are not trolling you can’t just label and then dismiss like that to try and elevate your empty counter argument.
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@nadaAhmed-nz7ye God damn it why can’t y’all see the overarching point here ?
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@kylasbitch refuse to give her credit? I gave her credit for pushing back against the studio-but it has been for her own benefit. I gave her credit for the bonuses-while acknowledging they shouldn’t have to be bonuses. We shouldn’t have to give these celebrities and extremely wealthy folks credit for things that should already be happening and the bare minimum. It’s a deflection mechanism.
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@kylasbitch I gave credit for her field. Yeah her pushing back against the studious on her albums is for her. There’s nothing wrong with that. But that’s how it is. Y’all seem intent on awarding her flowers for these grand spanning achievements when it’s just not the case. Like in order to criticize Taylor swift I first have to praise her? What kind of lunacy fanaticism is that?
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Bingo
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She’s a nothing burger. That’s the whole thing. She’s just a show person and kudos to her she does a great job. But this whole fermenting of a very dangerous parasocial relationship with her fans is purely capitalistic. She’s out there to make money first and foremost. Also she is PEAK white woman, like every stereotype. She is tall, been wealthy her whole life, conventionally attractive, simple and easy no rough edges, pretty baseline type of music and lyrics(the astrology of music tbh) and that’s why so many of her fans love her. She’s attainable in their eyes. It’s why they overlooked all the racially insensitive undertones in shake it off and other songs and the whole thing with Matt Healy and Ice Spice. Also her fans are fucking insane.
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@janvipatel13 she hasn’t done enough! That’s exactly it. So many people are actively fighting and putting their lives and wellbeing on the line when she could cause SO MUCH good with just 20% the commit that regular folks have. We cannot capitulate our standards we claim to want to uphold just cause miss pretty conventionally attractive white woman…did maybe a couple decent things from a place where the only privilege she doesn’t have is not being a straight white man, which kinda plays into her favor as the “angelic white, innocent but also strong girl boss queen billionaire”. Give me a break.
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@janvipatel13 She can’t do so very little and claim to be some feminist or social Justice champion when she’s just not. It’s stolen valor awarded to yet another wealthy and privileged white person.
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@veenoir1991 there’s a line that’s the equivalent of “I didn’t know who I was before” and 16 year old white girls lose their fucking minds
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@franklingoodwin Please as a fellow Franklin don’t do this
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@dessieangel1021 no I wouldn’t. See I don’t give a fuck about optics so long as people are getting the aid they need and deserve. Y’all are the ones obsessed with aesthetics and optics and you use this strawman as a justification for her to not do things. If she wants and her fans want to anoint her some hero and girl boss activist, then she must stand to face the scrutiny. You gloat about her influence, but her impact vs. influence ratio is awful for someone who is close to being a billionaire(which I thought we all agreed comes with the caveat that there are no ethical billionaires). So decide.
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@kylasbitch That she should do more, and that she isn’t on some righteous crusade. I’m literally saying both things. Those things literally go hand in hand. You fans go “she stood up against studios and is providing so much financial support to areas on her tour!” And I’m saying it’s not enough, and it’s for her, it’s not out of the goodness of her heart, it’s what comes with a huge star on tour there is always a financial boon. So it’s not a righteous crusade either. How is it that difficult to understand for you?
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@kylasbitch saying she is at industry standard and me saying “she’s not doing enough to be worthy of praise” IS THE SAME THING. God damn it. Why are y’all laying your lives on the line for this rich white woman who has only known privilege and acclaim and doesn’t actually care about any fans individually(because it’s impossible to). It’s insane. Y’all are insane.
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@kylasbitch y’all do so damn much to defend her because you see her as the goal and the archetype for person to be. You see yourselves in her. That’s why you can acknowledge the unhealthy parasocial relationships(that are all a part of the marketing and PR btw), like that’s active manipulation/extortion and you fans are being used for it. Normally wouldn’t be an issue if y’all didn’t act like she was some goddess rather than just another fucking celebrity trying to get a dime.
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@dessieangel1021 You all want to give her all these flowers when she has done nothing to water anything. You do this because your fandom is so centered on “you have to like this person because they’re ALSO morally good” that when confront with the fact that no, she’s just like every other rich person and any aspect that seems like she isn’t, is intentionally marketed to you. Stop trying to apply morality to things you just enjoy for the sake of enjoyment and then you wouldn’t have to try so hard to defend them.
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@kylasbitch what I’m saying is, she is not worthy of an extra praise for anything that she does really because of the overt issues I’ve discussed previously. There’s a dangerous precedent that is trying to be set by her fans where Taylor Swift is seen as this beacon of good and positivity and growth within a very toxic and bad industry, when she’s not. It’s a distraction. We cannot be anti billionaire and anti capitalist while praising the fucking queen of it all. She’s not taking on the studios past her own benefit, so no not praiseworthy. Bonuses to employees? Cool, but if the benefits were rightfully split as they should be and not through philanthropic means, they’d be doing even better. Now that’s not all on her, but she is a part of it and benefits from that system. So again, not praise worthy. Taylor Swift should not be moralized into something she just fucking isn’t. That’s the frustration. I haven’t even gotten into the environmental impacts of it all either. It’s hyper consumerism and she revels in the profits, as every super rich person does. She must be held to the fire all the same as anyone.
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@kylasbitch She has an army of fanatics to give her credit. Why should we also do some in order to accrue some validation with criticism? It’s not transactional. Y’all act like she’s some victim or aggrieved party when she’s literally at the pinnacle of everything and now she’s also supposed to be….what immune from criticism cause she’s not out there punching babies?
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@kylasbitch I know, the good things she’s done. It’s why I won’t say she’s outwardly a bad person. But that’s it. Y’all came on here, on this comment section to defend her under my comment where I said she just isn’t doing enough with her influence and now are trying to chastise me for saying that.
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@janvipatel13 Ok so first you don’t understand how strikes work, that’s evident. Second, you really think after everything I’ve said and the way I’ve said it, that I’m a liberal?! I’ve been criticizing centrist and right wingers this whole time you halfwit.
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@hijironeoma9010 I apply it to all celebrities.
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Lmao. This is literally “big business bring jobs!” Logic but y’all use it cause famous white woman you want to be like is doing it. Y’all are the same as Elon musk fans.
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@janvipatel13 so we should trust you?
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@janvipatel13 point is the fallacies apply both ways. You’re juvenile, it’s why you immediately go to insult.
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Oh wow she spoke out….wowwww
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Phony and surface level at bare minimum.
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Yup it’s a strategic thing
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Bingo
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@skullpixiedust perfect encapsulation.
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