Comments by "Shalanaya" (@Shalanaya) on "OxfordUnion"
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They are NOT preferences, those are reflecting people's biology, multi-dimensionality and individuality, the issue has always been in those who have been invalidating and disrespecting those pronouns, because it is that action that is creating divisions in the first place, because it is THAT invalidation itself that led to those atrocities in the first place, and THAT is the insanity. And again, they are NOT and never were PREFERED pronouns, they are reflecting the reality of who or what someone is, step on it and you are feeding more division. Do you ever realize that all divisions exist in this world due to the disrespect of differences and inability to integrate those differences? Not those differences merely existing, what you are promoting is homogeny and totalitarianism to erase those differences because you do not bother to respect them. You are the MAJOR part of the problem, because you have inverted everything. Peoiple existing that threatens status quo is not a problem, it is those who create disintegration by stepping onto the individual difference!!! When are people going to wake up and realize they are the ones who are responbsible for all these wars, and you are pointing fingers as the issue at those who are asking to be respected?
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For love of the God what is insane about pronouns? We all have them! They are NOT preferences, those are reflecting people's biology, multi-dimensionality and individuality, the issue has always been in those who have been invalidating and disrespecting those pronouns, because it is that action that is creating divisions in the first place, because it is THAT invalidation itself that led to atrocities and authoritarianism of this world in the first place, and THAT is the insanity. And again, they are NOT and never were PREFERED pronouns, they are reflecting the reality of who or what someone is, step on it and you are feeding more division. Do you ever realize that all divisions exist in this world due to the disrespect of differences and inability to integrate those differences? Not those differences merely existing, what you are promoting is homogeny and totalitarianism to erase those differences because you do not bother to respect them. At that point you are the MAJOR part of the problem, because you have inverted everything. People existing that threatens status quo is not a problem, it is those who create disintegration by stepping onto the individual difference! When are people going to wake up and realize they are the ones who are responsible for all these wars, and you are pointing fingers at those who are asking to be respected?
Humans are not a property of someone else, like for example calling a trans woman a man is energetically the same like calling a woman a property, because you are invalidating her agency. Empathy and respect comes along with sacrifice, we do not talk to people however we want, we approach them with respect, that means sharing ourselves in ways that is right for them. We also call it love, or does it not exist anymore? What has happened to you people? Why should we respect someone's disrespect and violation of other people's dignity and lives?
So bascially what Sean suggests here is that when someone is bleeding we should feel free to be nasty to others who are standing around?
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If people respected people's pronouns and genders amongst all other differences, people would not have any wars in the first place, this is how backwards and inverted people's principles and lives are, and then they wonder what happened, because they're clueless about how this works energetically, and how this is rooted in quantum physics. Do you know how wars are essentially started? From the resistance towards the sacrifice for an individual, often in the name of religion, nation or personal beliefs. One could also perhaps see the connection between Nationalism and Abrahamic religion, both are exploiting rigidity of the binary mindset of us vs them, man vs woman as purely binary, even biolgical sex itself has never been purely binary, it was recognized by biologists as diverse for more than 100 years, the binary model has been actually a quite modern narrative often found connected to religious conditioning, because both often go side by side. Most people are absolutely clueless about these things. Binary mindset has been the core of totalitarian and authoritarian fascistic regimes to keep the psyche split to prevent the acess to one's multi-dimensionality and instead serving the artificial hierarchy, which eventually leads to collective narcissism within the society. Many of us out there have been warning people about these power dynamics, because invalidation is what leads to an elimination of freedom for everyone. This is not a philosophical idea, this is rooted in physics!
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They are NOT preferences, those are reflecting people's biology, multi-dimensionality and individuality, the issue has always been in those who have been invalidating and disrespecting those pronouns, because it is that action that is creating divisions in the first place, because it is THAT invalidation itself that led to those atrocities in the first place, and THAT is the insanity. And again, they are NOT and never were PREFERED pronouns, they are reflecting the reality of who or what someone is, step on it and you are feeding more division. Do you ever realize that all divisions exist in this world due to the disrespect of differences and inability to integrate those differences? Not those differences merely existing, what you are promoting is homogeny and totalitarianism to erase those differences because you do not bother to respect them. You are the MAJOR part of the problem, because you have inverted everything. Peoiple existing that threatens status quo is not a problem, it is those who create disintegration by stepping onto the individual difference!!! When are people going to wake up and realize they are the ones who are responbsible for all these wars, and you are pointing fingers as the issue at those who are asking to be respected?
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@meilechl That is not entitlement, that is someone's right to be respected, in other words, call a trans women a man to her face and I'll punch you in your face, how about that?
Trans women are BORN biological women, just not the way most women are, open some biological book or learn from anthropology. Male and Female has been determined based on multiple biological factors throughout the history, which includes hormones of the body, for centuries male and female was determined also based on the energy, and not even biology. Read Maria' Lugone's book on gender systems. It is not up to YOU to determine what or who is a man or woman, it is up to THEM to tell you. Again you are part of the problem if you dont understand this, because it is not about policing, but making sure that you dont usher in a police state by invalidating people by labelling them how they dont wish to be, because you are reducing the value of individual difference. This is not a philosophical concept, this is quantum physics. This is why within indigenous cultures where trans people also existed, any invalidation of others would result in people being excommunicated. This is the major reason why cancel cultures throughout the history were functioning based on the principle of preserving the value of an individual, because viewpoint diversity always paradoxically cancels itself out when those views devalue that diversity, it leads to authoritarianism. To make sure that you live in a free society people have to sacrifice for an individual and not for their own personal beliefs.
PS: Science supports the existence of gender identity developed in utero!
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@channeldoesnotexist It is not up to YOU to determine what or who is a man or woman, it is up to THEM to tell you. Again you are part of the problem if you dont understand this, because it is not about policing, but making sure that you dont usher in a police state in the first place by invalidating people, which includes imposing onto them labels that disregard that difference and agency. Because that colonizing imposition is erasing those differences and unconsciously supporting a systemic homogeny. This is purely rooted in quantum physics. This is why within indigenous cultures where trans women also existed and used to be regarded as women, any invalidation of others would result in people being excommunicated. This is the major reason why cancel cultures throughout the history were functioning based on the principle of preserving the value of an individual, because viewpoint diversity always paradoxically cancels itself out when those views devalue that diversity, it leads to authoritarianism. To make sure that you that you live in a free society people have to sacrifice for an individual and not for their own personal beliefs.
PS: Science supports the existence of gender identity developed in utero. Again I repeat it is you who is denying reality and supporting delusion in the name of personal ideology and narrative, which gender binary is and always was. You have absolutely no clue of what you are talking about! Many of us out there have been warning people about these power dynamics, because invalidation is what leads to an elimination of freedom for everyone. This is not a philosophical idea, this is rooted purely in physics.
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@meilechl It is NOt a peak of entitlement to expect to be respected. Do you understand what this subject matter is about? Invlaidation of trans people leads to a police state and authoritarianism, because you are lowering the value of an individual difference while raising the value of a belief system. Once you start studying quantum mechanics you might start understanding what this is about.
If people respected people's pronouns and genders amongst all other differences, people would not have any wars in the first place, this is how backwards and inverted people's principles and lives are, and then they wonder what happened, because they're clueless about how this works. Do you know how wars are essentially started? From the resistance towards the sacrifice for an individual, often in the name of religion, nation or personal beliefs. One could also perhaps see the connection between Nationalism and Abrahamic religion, both are exploiting rigidity of the binary mindset of us vs them, man vs woman as purely binary, even biolgical sex itself has never been purely binary, it was recognized by biologists as diverse for more than 100 years, the binary model has been actually a quite modern narrative often found connected to religious conditioning, because both often go side by side.
Why should the majority conform to the minority? Because they embody the missing piece necessary for the harmonious whole, it is carrying a potential for the greater expansion of everyone. And so the voices of the majority become irrelevant. This is why those in power start eventually oppressing the majority, because they are living out of alignment with themselves and therefore the whole earth, which is reflected by their resistance to destruction of personal fears or beliefs in an act of sacrifice/inclusion for the individual. And this is why the greater truth does not and can not stand on their side, instead fundamentalism and propaganda start replacing the truth. Eventually Mother Earth herself will start rejecting them. If most people realized it for themselves, they could prevent a lot of suffering and pain awaiting them while they still can.
The majority is nowhere - because it is the normative, generic and expected.
The minority is everywhere - in every becoming and creative act that challenges the normative and creates difference.
The minority is an outsider that is inside - this makes the minority fundamentally political and gives it the potential to disrupt the system to allow for the new and the different.
- Gilles Deleuze
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@carie58 You are an ideologue who refuses to accept facts, which should be clear to anyone reading this when people say 'end of story' in that context, as if science is static and a done deal, lol. What kind of agenda are you serving? Please tell us!
When people say biological sex, what they really mean are the triggers for hormonal development like chromosomes, or even cells, which are not always working in all bodies as they get blocked along the way. We have cells that have receptors that hear the signal from sex hormones, but sometimes those receptors don’t work, so you can be genetically male or female, chromosomally male or female, hormonally male/female/non-binary, with cells that may or may not hear the male/female/non-binary call.
Feel free to sense a dehumanization in all of this in the way how people are reduced into objects and property with no sovereignty over their body due to people's lack of self control, insecurities and ignorance that those in power only exploit in order to have power over all people at the end.
All this goes back to the psychology of a two-dimensional thinking that fragments the psyche enough to keep it in an oppositional (predatory - animal-like) instead of relational state (symbiotic - plant-like), which not only feeds into a collective narcissism, but has furthermore been reflected in the way we tend to gender and raise babies as separate non-relational beings to the opposite sex, especially to the mother for boys, which we already know often disconnects them from the feminine inside of themselves through repression, and that can manifest through misogyny and violence when they grow up. That is the result of the gender binary model programmed into our psyche early on as a mechanism of homogenization and mechanization of a diversified nature and life gradually forcing people into a machine-like state of existence of servitude and slavery, which is often reflected in the way people treat others purely as objects defined based on the majority of people and their bodies, and so the individual uniqueness becomes gradually eradicated while people are being treated like cattle. This is why for example the authorities in the medicine used to categorize others as DSD or intersex which conviently helped them to preserve the illusion of sex binary instead of cultivating the perception of a vast diversity oscillating on a bimodal spectrum with two high-end peaks that can be embodied in many diverse ways beyond our understanding and conceptualization. This is why male and female are always embodied in multi-dimensional ways, which is evident we see dolls and refer to them as man or woman, or sculptures, anime and so forth. Man and Woman has not been determined based on biology with regards to humans either, within indigenous cultures sex has been determined based on the energy of the body as well. I'd suggest to research this for yourself and read Maria Lugon's book on western gender system imposed upon people for ther purpsoe of subjugating women. This is why the attacks and invalidation of trans people's agency and sovereignty is deeply tied to the attacks on women within their societies in our history. Again, I'd recommend to research this, the truth would horrify you what you've been conditioned to support. As I said, calling a trans woman a man is the same like calling a woman a property and object. It is sending a dehumanizing message.
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